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Posted by Rjlockhart98 on May 27, 2005, at 17:54:50
how do you know whats going on when you have thoughts derailed, well more unstable thoughts causing you to sit and have panic attacks that you are going insane, yet you have seen doctors and they say it is anxiety, and anxiety can do many things.
I sometimes have a terrible fear that i cannot speak because there is muffle around my mouth and I cant talk and feel locked inside and see through mental distorted fog.
THat is my worst fear.
I keep telling myself this is going to pass over a couple of days, i have to pace the floor for this to somehow "let up" for up to an hour.
I hope this will pass, school just got out, i graduated but the stress at the end left me bruised, i should be relieved that school is over, not panic over im going insane, nad my reality is distorted.
right now im creeped out.
I currently take 2mg of Lorazepam daily/ up to 6mg if needed.
Posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2005, at 18:39:01
In reply to fear of insanity, posted by Rjlockhart98 on May 27, 2005, at 17:54:50
Matt, I usually react to something after it's over. Could school being over be tied into these feelings? Do you have something to keep you occupied? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on May 27, 2005, at 19:41:41
In reply to fear of insanity, posted by Rjlockhart98 on May 27, 2005, at 17:54:50
You should really try cognitive behavioural therapy. It can really help with anxiety. Then when you have an attack you will have the tools you need to get through it.
Also, try to distract yourself as much as possible and remind yourself that you are not going to die from the attack. That you will get through it.
But I highly recommend CBT.
Maxime
> how do you know whats going on when you have thoughts derailed, well more unstable thoughts causing you to sit and have panic attacks that you are going insane, yet you have seen doctors and they say it is anxiety, and anxiety can do many things.
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> I sometimes have a terrible fear that i cannot speak because there is muffle around my mouth and I cant talk and feel locked inside and see through mental distorted fog.
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> THat is my worst fear.
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> I keep telling myself this is going to pass over a couple of days, i have to pace the floor for this to somehow "let up" for up to an hour.
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> I hope this will pass, school just got out, i graduated but the stress at the end left me bruised, i should be relieved that school is over, not panic over im going insane, nad my reality is distorted.
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> right now im creeped out.
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> I currently take 2mg of Lorazepam daily/ up to 6mg if needed.
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Posted by Rjlockhart98 on May 27, 2005, at 22:12:42
In reply to Re: fear of insanity » Rjlockhart98, posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2005, at 18:39:01
THnaks phillpa, right now i just jog about 3miles a day to get out of the house. I have bad anxiety i just hide when i go out somewhere, being some guy i try to always have to play it "cool" even during a climax of an attack. but sometimes when i tune it "out" dissociation happens, i feel that what im seeing is "simulation" its not real, its really terrifying having the thought that your just a unnoticed observer.
Anyways thanks for you advice.
and of Maxime...CBT? i havent really thought of that, thanks, i do see a therpist but he's more psychodynamic rather than cognitive, i have asked him about CBT he said he's not specialized nor intrested in that treatment. But maybe that's why the whole 2 years i have seen him, i've gotten worse! Thanks for your support, sometimes it feels better to know im actually talking to someone, and i am real.
Sometimes when this starts, it starts with a cracking feeling over my head, sort of like an egg, the yok goes down and makes certain parts of my face numb, then disorientation and distortion and foggieness.
Thanks guys for responding.
take care
matt
Posted by sleepygirl on May 28, 2005, at 1:27:54
In reply to fear of insanity, posted by Rjlockhart98 on May 27, 2005, at 17:54:50
Ok, I'm reading your post and I saw you said you were told anxiety can do many things. I had some symptoms for the life of me I can't explain. They were strange sensations, short lived, almost like the warning before a panic attack, but then I literally couldn't move, speak, was sort of frozen. A lot of anxiety can make things seem 'unreal'. You sound a little burnt out. My symptoms maybe aren't like yours, but whatever weirdness went along with my anxiety hasn't reappeared since I started the antidepressants. Do you take an AD?
Posted by rjlockhart98 on May 28, 2005, at 13:39:46
In reply to Re: fear of insanity, posted by sleepygirl on May 28, 2005, at 1:27:54
no
the last AD i was on was Cymbalta 30mg, which i discontinued for insomnia problems.
Cymbalta sort of had a good feeling when kicking in, but it faded in less than an hour.
Before that i was on Wellbutrin 300mgXL and let me tell you about flouting in your body..... that med made me feel like a space cadet.
I currently take:
Lorazepam :
6mg daily when needed (2mg X 3) OR during a panic attack i take 2mg x 2 = 4MG but thats rare. Ativan is not a very wellpronounced antipanic med, it doesnt really take them off, even 4mg will knock some of it out, the "thoughts" are still there. Ativan i dont belive is patented antipanic, more antimanic.Temazepam:
30mg when needed. Lorazepam is better at anxiety than this med, this one causes slight sedation with sleepiness.sorry ofr the long post
Posted by Maxime on May 31, 2005, at 9:41:10
In reply to Re: fear of insanity, posted by rjlockhart98 on May 28, 2005, at 13:39:46
Hey Matt, have you looked into getting a therapist that does CBT?
Maxime
Posted by Zanzibar_inJanuary on June 2, 2005, at 23:11:48
In reply to fear of insanity, posted by Rjlockhart98 on May 27, 2005, at 17:54:50
I know it can probably only be described in metaphore, but can you tell me more about what you mean by "...there is muffle around my mouth and I cant talk and feel locked inside..." ?
I think I know what your talking about; sometimes I feel like I can't talk because my tongue feels really big, and its like theres a paralysis around my mouth. If i try really hard I can talk, but its usually nonsense that comes out because I'm so confused and scared by what i feel.
Is that simmilar to what you mean?
Also, when this happens, each moment is SO LONG, like, I feel like I'm veiwing the world in frames...i feel like i'm going to get stuck in one of the frames and that time will just STop. and i'll be stuck that way, confused and scared and insane forever.
its impossible to explaine how this feels to people. my body literally looks and feels like it doubled in size; i really DO see things in frames, and it goes so terrifyingly slow.
sometimes i come out of these trances with pulled muscles and sore joints because i dont feel whats "uncomfortable", i positional myself akwardly.what scares ME most is how TIME can suddenly be so subjective. my friend told me one time i kept saying "i feel like i'm 30 seconds behind right now". i had my hands covering my face and was saying "i cant see!" . at the time i didnt even know it was because i was hiding my face in my hands- i thought i was blind.
does the lorazapam help? i dont even know if it helps me- it definitly makes the experience less terrfying, but doesnt make the sensory distortions feel less real.
i'm afraid of insanity too. i think whats most important is to always try to keep aa sense of perspective when you start having these feelings- remember that they always stop. its the only thing that helps me. i close my eyes and curl up and try not to think, or, repeat reassurances to myself in my head that it will all be over, i just have to wait it out. but its still terrifying.
theres no way this is just anxiety.
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