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Posted by MissOphelia on April 30, 2005, at 1:15:58
In reply to Re: seroquel to lunesta experience » jerrympls, posted by Phillipa on April 25, 2005, at 21:26:14
This will be my second night of Lunesta.
The taste that it leaves is HORRIBLE, BEYOND HORRIBLE.
I HAVE HAD THE TASTE FOR OVER 24 HOURS. IT IS NOT EVEN DESCRIBABLE!!!
I like Ambien the best , by far.
Posted by Liverhead on April 30, 2005, at 17:50:21
In reply to 2nd night of Lunestra, posted by fachad on April 21, 2005, at 1:11:18
I'm a long time Ambien user and was really anxious to try Lunestra. I've followed it for about 2 years.
What a disappointment!
Took 3 mg last night. I started yawning like a maniac afer 40 min, figured that was that and turned off the light. Nothing. An hour later I took Melatonin and Neurontin, which almost did the trick, however 5 mg of Ambien was needed (normally chicken feed for me). Finally, 2 hrs after the whole experience started I fell asleep, but not before the bitter taste in the back of my throat and sinuses started, No biggie.
But by this morning, it was UNSPEAKABLE. And hasn't quite worn off, nearly 21 hours after taking it for the 1st (and last time).
I could have dealt with the taste (maybe) had it been more effective than Ambien, which is was not.
BTW- I've been seeing a new doc lately (she wrote the Lunestra Rx, her first) and I was doing better before I even tried the Lunestra. Pre-loading with melatonin and 1200 mg Neurontin really makes the Ambien work better. I can get away with 10 mg!Good luck guys. I hope you experiences are better than mine, although from what I've read so far, they are not.
I'm selling all my Sepracor stock Monday. This is gonna bomb, IMHO.
Posted by Chad_b234 on May 2, 2005, at 0:55:53
In reply to This is a BAD drug » fachad, posted by Liverhead on April 30, 2005, at 17:50:21
I have been using Ambien for about a month now with EXCELLENT results! I've suffered from problems falling asleep and general sleep deprivation for years. I've only recently began searching for help with the problem. I started out with Zoloft, thinking it was depression related. After a couple months of treatment with Zoloft I really wasn't sleeping any better so my Dr gave me some Ambien to try. I have also scheduled a sleep study, but the earliest I could get in is June. For the first time in a very long time I am able to function normally throughout the day, I never realized how bad I felt till I had a good night of sleep with the Ambien. Its hard to describe how excited I have been lately to feel so great! I'm almost 30 and I truly can't remember feeling this good since I was in my early teens. Here is the problem... After my first 15 Ambien my Dr will not refill my prescription. No matter how much I begged for them, even just enough to get me to my sleep study he wouldn't refill it. Now he gave me Doxepin, I took it about an hour ago and here I sit typing on the computer at 1 am. I would like to try the Lunestra, I have been following it a bit lately, but he hadn't even heard of it. How hard is it to get Ambien for anyone else? Is it just my Dr or is it really that strictly limited? I guess for the meantime I'll just suffer till I find out what my real problem is. I'd appreciate any help from anyone who has been through the same thing.
Thanks,
Chad
Posted by Sadaiyappan on May 2, 2005, at 11:37:21
In reply to Re: This is a BAD drug, posted by Chad_b234 on May 2, 2005, at 0:55:53
i have a question...
Are you people natural insomniacs ? How did your sleeping problems arise ?
I read about people that are on sleeping meds for years.. Can't they just ween off of their meds and sleep med free ?
I'm not psychotic in any way, but i am on geodon now for sleep... I am hoping to ween off of it within two months.
Posted by Maxime on May 2, 2005, at 12:42:46
In reply to Re: This is a BAD drug, posted by Chad_b234 on May 2, 2005, at 0:55:53
Ambien isn't meant to used every night. You are suppose to use for 3 night or so until you get into a normal sleep pattern ... to break the insomnia. I'm sorry about your insomnia, but I am glad that there is at least one wise doctor out there.
BTW, I am the Queen of Insomnia, so I do know what it's like to go without sleep ... sometime for days.
Maxime
> I have been using Ambien for about a month now with EXCELLENT results! I've suffered from problems falling asleep and general sleep deprivation for years. I've only recently began searching for help with the problem. I started out with Zoloft, thinking it was depression related. After a couple months of treatment with Zoloft I really wasn't sleeping any better so my Dr gave me some Ambien to try. I have also scheduled a sleep study, but the earliest I could get in is June. For the first time in a very long time I am able to function normally throughout the day, I never realized how bad I felt till I had a good night of sleep with the Ambien. Its hard to describe how excited I have been lately to feel so great! I'm almost 30 and I truly can't remember feeling this good since I was in my early teens. Here is the problem... After my first 15 Ambien my Dr will not refill my prescription. No matter how much I begged for them, even just enough to get me to my sleep study he wouldn't refill it. Now he gave me Doxepin, I took it about an hour ago and here I sit typing on the computer at 1 am. I would like to try the Lunestra, I have been following it a bit lately, but he hadn't even heard of it. How hard is it to get Ambien for anyone else? Is it just my Dr or is it really that strictly limited? I guess for the meantime I'll just suffer till I find out what my real problem is. I'd appreciate any help from anyone who has been through the same thing.
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
Posted by Maxime on May 2, 2005, at 12:56:06
In reply to Re: This is a BAD drug, posted by Sadaiyappan on May 2, 2005, at 11:37:21
What is a natural insomniac? Do you mean someone who requires less sleep to function than most? If that is the case, then I would be one of those people. I only need 4 hours of sleep. For me, insomnia is no sleep. There isn't really such a thing as a "natural insomniac" as insomnia means "abnormally prolonged inability to sleep". I don't have an inability, it's simply my body does not require 8 hours of sleep.
But most people here, myself included, suffer from depression, bi-polar illness, psychosis, or anxiety etc. and insomnia is part of the package.
Oh and don't worry, many people take
anti-psychotics to help them sleep. Seroquel is the most popular. Your sentence made me laugh it was like "I'm not psychotic ... but some of my best friends are .... (looks to crowd assuringly with a little nervous laugh).Maxime
> i have a question...
>
> Are you people natural insomniacs ? How did your sleeping problems arise ?
>
> I read about people that are on sleeping meds for years.. Can't they just ween off of their meds and sleep med free ?
>
> I'm not psychotic in any way, but i am on geodon now for sleep... I am hoping to ween off of it within two months.
>
>
Posted by Phillipa on May 2, 2005, at 18:28:48
In reply to Re: This is a BAD drug » Sadaiyappan, posted by Maxime on May 2, 2005, at 12:56:06
I have been an insomniac since my first child was born over 39yrs ago. I couldn't sleep because I was afraid she wouldn't breath and would die. I've always required something for sleep. No I don't abuse sleep meds. But all the pdocs I've seen over the years recognize that this is my biggest problem so I've always been given something for sleep. Now it's valium. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on May 2, 2005, at 20:13:24
In reply to Re: This is a BAD drug, posted by Phillipa on May 2, 2005, at 18:28:48
> I have been an insomniac since my first child was born over 39yrs ago. I couldn't sleep because I was afraid she wouldn't breath and would die. I've always required something for sleep. No I don't abuse sleep meds. But all the pdocs I've seen over the years recognize that this is my biggest problem so I've always been given something for sleep. Now it's valium. Fondly, Phillipa
Boy, you are older than I thought! LOL :-)
Maxime
Posted by wendy0006 on May 4, 2005, at 14:56:29
In reply to Re: This is a BAD drug, posted by Chad_b234 on May 2, 2005, at 0:55:53
I take 300 mg of Serouqel as an anti-psychotic. Also, if you have anxiety, which sometimes causes Restless Leg Syndrome - drs may prescribe Klonopin for this - they give me 1mg/nght. This pretty much gets me to sleep and doesn't cause any hangover.
wendy
Posted by TABob on May 8, 2005, at 15:07:09
In reply to 2nd night of Lunestra, posted by fachad on April 21, 2005, at 1:11:18
I had no luck with it. The doctor gave me 2 - 3mg tablets. I took the first one about 11 pm. At 12:30 , I hadn't felt a thing, so I took the second one. Still nothing. I finally fell asleep on my own about 5 in the morning, I only sleep about 4 hours but did have some vivid dreams.
Posted by Phillipa on May 8, 2005, at 17:13:37
In reply to Re: Didn't Work, posted by TABob on May 8, 2005, at 15:07:09
Darn! There's a new Thread. A lot of the others are saying they like it. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by irishwolf on May 8, 2005, at 23:36:44
In reply to Re: Didn't Work, posted by TABob on May 8, 2005, at 15:07:34
Geeze, I've been bouncing off the walls this entire week after trying Lunesta. First night, 2 mg was just a big nothing. I called the very uninformative and uninterested pharmacy of the drug company...their advice is that they can't give advice. Took 4 mg last two nights...nothing, I really don't have any sensation except that nasty metallic taste. My pharmacist told me that Ambien becomes no more effective than a placebo after long term use, so that was why I asked to try the Lunesta. Well, give me that placebo any day over this dud of a drug! I do have to chase Ambien with 50 mgs. of benadryl which I hate, because I was afraid of going over the 10 mg limit of Ambien. Ambien was becoming less effective, I didn't realize that others were tolerating higher doses, but the docs don't prescribe it higher and the insurance won't pay for it, right? The shorter duration of sleep doesn't bother me as much as the inability to hit the pillow and go to sleep without all the anxiety wheels spinning. Lunesta doesn't make me want to go to sleep..so I've stayed up two nights reading books instead of going to bed. I would appreciate any insights on how to manage, tolerate or maintain effectiveness on Ambien. Thanks, this has been the first "real" discussion I have found on the net that specifically addresses individual's reactions to these two drugs. (I'm taking Ambien tonight...hope I don't self-combust ha!)
Posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2005, at 0:16:20
In reply to Re: Didn't Work, posted by irishwolf on May 8, 2005, at 23:36:44
Irishwolf, I started a new Thread further down the Board the other day on Lunesta since this Thread seemed to die. Some people are having good results. It seems like a mixed bag at the moment. Welcome to PBabble, it's a great place with a lot ot experts to answer questions you may have about medications. Start your own Thread. I promise you will get a lot of responses. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by awatts on May 9, 2005, at 13:17:35
In reply to Re: Didn't Work » irishwolf, posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2005, at 0:16:20
> Irishwolf, I started a new Thread further down the Board the other day on Lunesta since this Thread seemed to die. Some people are having good results. It seems like a mixed bag at the moment. Welcome to PBabble, it's a great place with a lot ot experts to answer questions you may have about medications. Start your own Thread. I promise you will get a lot of responses. Fondly, Phillipa
Phillipa,
You are one of the very few, fortunate people for whom a sleep aid works long term (Valium).
For the vast majority of us, ALL sedatives (benzo and none-benzo) loose their effectiveness in a few weeks, or at most, months. Lunesta is not suppost to do that.
Lunesta may not work as well as the others and may have a bad taste and other side effects. However, it may be the only drug that can be used as a sedative long term. It's going to take many months of real life trials to determine this.
Posted by mugsy on May 9, 2005, at 20:14:17
In reply to Lunesta, Has Anyone Tried It?, posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2005, at 13:06:33
I've given up on Lunesta. It helps me sleep but I wake up in about 3-4 hours and can't get back to sleep. Also after I wake up from Lunesta it causes my blood pressure to increase to an uncomfortable level. Also that taste is pretty bad to me and lasts almost a whole day. If Lunesta gave me the sleep I needed I would probably put up with the taste but the blood pressure effect is definitely too hard on my body.
In the past I had tried GHB for sleep but had the same high blood pressure problem upon awakening from it. Makes me wonder if there is a common cause of that high blood pressure effect. According to what I had read about GHB, when the sedative effect wears off it causes a large spike in dopamine which would explain the high blood pressure rebound. For me that is too much. I might have been able to tolerate that when I was younger but now it would beat me up too much.
Anyway just wanted to give you an update on how Lunesta affected me.
As much as I don't like seroquel it's all I got right now. I would prefer a long term benzo/seroquel alternating treatment but doctors around here treat benzos like they are heroin or something (unless you're a female then for some strange reason that's ok with the docs it seems).
Maybe I need to dress in drag before I go see a doc for benzo rx.
Posted by Phillipa on May 9, 2005, at 20:54:37
In reply to Lunesta, Seroquel, and other stuff, posted by mugsy on May 9, 2005, at 20:14:17
Ahhh, back to the 70's valium "mother's little helper". Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by wingsofhope on May 10, 2005, at 11:53:41
In reply to Re: 15-20 mg of Ambien per night? Does insurance cover, posted by jerrympls on April 13, 2005, at 1:47:49
For anyone who's gotten a Rx for lunesta filled... Did your insurance cover it? What insurance plan do you have? What was the copay? Thanks so much!!
Posted by vivi on May 10, 2005, at 20:09:56
In reply to Insurance covering Lunesta??, posted by wingsofhope on May 10, 2005, at 11:53:41
> For anyone who's gotten a Rx for lunesta filled... Did your insurance cover it? What insurance plan do you have? What was the copay? Thanks so much!!
It cost me $40.00 for 30 mg pills. My insurance is through my work and it is not a "preferred prescription" so I did not get the usual $25.00 that I paid with Ambien. I guess it has not been out long enough or insurance companies do not have a hard time falling asleep!
Posted by vivi on May 10, 2005, at 20:12:43
In reply to Lunesta, Seroquel, and other stuff, posted by mugsy on May 9, 2005, at 20:14:17
> I've given up on Lunesta. It helps me sleep but I wake up in about 3-4 hours and can't get back to sleep. Also after I wake up from Lunesta it causes my blood pressure to increase to an uncomfortable level. Also that taste is pretty bad to me and lasts almost a whole day. If Lunesta gave me the sleep I needed I would probably put up with the taste but the blood pressure effect is definitely too hard on my body.
>
> In the past I had tried GHB for sleep but had the same high blood pressure problem upon awakening from it. Makes me wonder if there is a common cause of that high blood pressure effect. According to what I had read about GHB, when the sedative effect wears off it causes a large spike in dopamine which would explain the high blood pressure rebound. For me that is too much. I might have been able to tolerate that when I was younger but now it would beat me up too much.
>
> Anyway just wanted to give you an update on how Lunesta affected me.
>
> As much as I don't like seroquel it's all I got right now. I would prefer a long term benzo/seroquel alternating treatment but doctors around here treat benzos like they are heroin or something (unless you're a female then for some strange reason that's ok with the docs it seems).
>
> Maybe I need to dress in drag before I go see a doc for benzo rx.
>
> I sleep for about 6 hours with Lunesta but I don't feel refreshed like I did with Ambien. Go figure, one is a hypnotic and the other is a benzo! my pdoc is good about trying new drugs, it's just the insurance companies.
Posted by allisone1b on May 11, 2005, at 10:51:12
In reply to Re: seroquel to lunesta experience » jerrympls, posted by Phillipa on April 25, 2005, at 21:26:14
Just tried Lunesta.... I've had chronic insomnia for over three years. My sleep neurologist used to prescribe Klonapin (2mg) and Seroquel 100mg. Worked beautifully 99% of time. I even cut myself back to 1mg of Klonapin. Sleep neurologist has moved out of state. I'm left with a psychiatrist who refuses to prescribe Klonapin for me. Now I can't sleep on just the Seroquel. I'm EXHAUSTED, extremely irritable. I've been following all the recommended sleep hygiene methods, cut out caffeine and white sugar. NOTHING WORKS!!! I do yoga every night. I stretch, I meditate. I exercise and walk during the day. I'm so fed up. I can't fall asleep.. I wake up too early. Can't fall back to sleep. Without the Klonapin, I toss and turn so much, my husband now sleeps on the couch. I'm at wits end. Tried Lunesta 2mg last night and I fell right to sleep but I was up after sleeping only 4 hours. Had strange dreams that seemed to keep my mind constantly active. It was a strange half-awake, half-asleep state of dreaming. Lunesta was less helpful than Seroquel. Has anyone tried 4mg? I'm thinking of doubling my dose...or going on the black market to get klonapin!!!!
Posted by awatts on May 11, 2005, at 11:23:32
In reply to Re: seroquel to lunesta experience, posted by allisone1b on May 11, 2005, at 10:51:12
> Just tried Lunesta.... I've had chronic insomnia for over three years. My sleep neurologist used to prescribe Klonapin (2mg) and Seroquel 100mg. Worked beautifully 99% of time. I even cut myself back to 1mg of Klonapin. Sleep neurologist has moved out of state. I'm left with a psychiatrist who refuses to prescribe Klonapin for me. Now I can't sleep on just the Seroquel. I'm EXHAUSTED, extremely irritable. I've been following all the recommended sleep hygiene methods, cut out caffeine and white sugar. NOTHING WORKS!!! I do yoga every night. I stretch, I meditate. I exercise and walk during the day. I'm so fed up. I can't fall asleep.. I wake up too early. Can't fall back to sleep. Without the Klonapin, I toss and turn so much, my husband now sleeps on the couch. I'm at wits end. Tried Lunesta 2mg last night and I fell right to sleep but I was up after sleeping only 4 hours. Had strange dreams that seemed to keep my mind constantly active. It was a strange half-awake, half-asleep state of dreaming. Lunesta was less helpful than Seroquel. Has anyone tried 4mg? I'm thinking of doubling my dose...or going on the black market to get klonapin!!!!
How long was your taper off of the Klonopin? Could you still be suffering Klonopin withdrawal?
Posted by allisone1b on May 11, 2005, at 12:28:08
In reply to Re: seroquel to lunesta experience, posted by awatts on May 11, 2005, at 11:23:32
> > Just tried Lunesta.... I've had chronic insomnia for over three years. My sleep neurologist used to prescribe Klonapin (2mg) and Seroquel 100mg. Worked beautifully 99% of time. I even cut myself back to 1mg of Klonapin. Sleep neurologist has moved out of state. I'm left with a psychiatrist who refuses to prescribe Klonapin for me. Now I can't sleep on just the Seroquel. I'm EXHAUSTED, extremely irritable. I've been following all the recommended sleep hygiene methods, cut out caffeine and white sugar. NOTHING WORKS!!! I do yoga every night. I stretch, I meditate. I exercise and walk during the day. I'm so fed up. I can't fall asleep.. I wake up too early. Can't fall back to sleep. Without the Klonapin, I toss and turn so much, my husband now sleeps on the couch. I'm at wits end. Tried Lunesta 2mg last night and I fell right to sleep but I was up after sleeping only 4 hours. Had strange dreams that seemed to keep my mind constantly active. It was a strange half-awake, half-asleep state of dreaming. Lunesta was less helpful than Seroquel. Has anyone tried 4mg? I'm thinking of doubling my dose...or going on the black market to get klonapin!!!!
>
> How long was your taper off of the Klonopin? Could you still be suffering Klonopin withdrawal?
>
>I kind of went off Klonapin cold turkey about a week and a half ago. Could that be the culprit? Is my mind going and going due to withdrawal maybe?
Posted by awatts on May 11, 2005, at 13:37:57
In reply to Re: seroquel to lunesta experience, posted by allisone1b on May 11, 2005, at 12:28:08
> > How long was your taper off of the Klonopin? Could you still be suffering Klonopin withdrawal?
> >
> >
>
> I kind of went off Klonapin cold turkey about a week and a half ago. Could that be the culprit? Is my mind going and going due to withdrawal maybe?Yes, that is probably the culprit. I have been taking benzos for 30 years. I've gone off and on most of them many times. The one that has been working for me for the last few years is Klonopin. I had been on much higher doses, but have reduced my usage to 0.25 mg Klonopin twice a day.
Just because it's abuse potential is low, some docs don't realize that this is a very powerful drug. Get some low dose Klonopin, and taper off for however many months it takes. If you do it right, you should not ever experience much discomfort.
I am not suggesting that you break any laws, but how much is quality of life worth to you. What would you risk to feel normal again?
Posted by soulnik on May 22, 2005, at 23:20:21
In reply to Re: Lunesta v. Ambien, not a clean swap » musil, posted by jerrympls on April 21, 2005, at 1:11:03
I just started Lunestra last night and it did nothing for me. I was awake at the crack of dawn after having fallen asleep at 2 am. Ambien wasn't working well. It made me high but didn't always garantee that I fell asleep. What else is there to try? I take topamax at night and lamictal in the morning but nothing else except I need something to sleep. The psyhcopharm gave me geoden for sleep but it made me feel like my heart slowed down and the whole next day I felt like my arms and legs didn't belong to me and dragged behind me. It took me too long to everything.
Posted by outhinkso on August 27, 2005, at 12:55:35
In reply to Re: seroquel to lunesta experience » mugsy, posted by vivi on April 24, 2005, at 0:46:57
This is response to Vivi’s post regarding Seroquel - Lunesta. Please forgive me, but I new to this posting thing:
Hi my name is Julie, and I've been taking 2mg of Lunesta per night and I have dropped my does of Seroquel down to 25mg last night. I was taking 200mgs and I have steadily been dropping my dosage per week because I have every intention of getting off of it completely.
I have been having problems with paranoia and hallucinations. The hallucinations didn't become really bad until I combined both drugs.
I was prescribed these drugs because I have insomnia. My problems sleeping date back to when I was a toddler. Both of my parents suffer with problems sleeping as well. I was also diagnosed as being borderline anemic as well.
To make a long story short if that is possible, I started suffering extreme exhaustion all the time after I added birth control pills to the mix. My Thyroid Gland was doing weird things and I never had any energy. I went to 2 different doctors who wanted to and Synthroid to the mix. I chose to get a 3rd opinion that did Thyroid antibody tests. He told me I don't have a thyroid condition and to start eating right. Go figure. So now I am taking a combination of vitamins, stop taking B/C, and I am in the process of getting off all sleep medications. I plan on going all natural and dealing with the lack of sleep on a daily basis.
It's taken me a year to realize most of the general practice doctors should not be allowed to prescribe any antidepressants. They don't know what they are doing. And women's needs are much different than a man's due to the hormonally issues we have.
A combination of the Seroquel and B/C pills have caused me to gain 10lbs, which isn't much for me since I am 5'3 and 125lbs right now soaking wet, but any type of weight gain can have a huge effect on one's self esteem when none of your clothes fit.
Not only that, I am convinced that all of these medications made my Thyroid Gland go nuts. I am 30 years old and I don’t need to be taking 4 medications a day.
I have been making a concise effort to eat at least 4 times a day and take my vitamins. Since lowering my dose of Seroquel I have begun to feel some what normal again. I went to the doctor because I was tired and couldn’t sleep well. I was working out on a regular basis which helped my stress. Since being prescribe a small pharmacy of drugs, I continued to feel worse. And the 2 doctors I was going to weren’t listening. I finally found Dr. John Partridge (my 3rd opinion) who is apart of the Va Physicians for Women who was a blessing in disguise. I believe now that the drugs are poison and I need to fully clean my system out. I am planning on getting back into the gym and taking steps to managing my stress naturally. I also believe that most of my problems were also due to the lack of nutrients /vitamins I was not getting fro food alone. People don’t realize when you don’t eat right; it affects everything including your sleep patterns.
If anyone would like to know what vitamins I am taking and how much, please feel free to e-mail me. I can only speak for myself, but going natural has really helped me. What I mean by natural is getting of the drugs and getting back into exercise and proper eating….I believe sometimes you just have to deal with your issues of sleep on a daily basis. Taking a walk or a motorcycle ride has really helped me. Everyone has to find what works for them. Not only that but Seroquel has some very serious side affects that the doctors don’t always inform you of – diabetes (which runs in my family), frequent urination (which I had and it sucks to be woken up constantly by it), leg spasms and the list goes on and on. The side effects were worse than not be able to sleep.
In conclusion, I guess in life you have trade offs to everything. You have to decide if the trade offs are worth it……for me they are not.
Jules
> > I just tried lunesta desperately hoping to find a gentler but effective alternative to the seroquel I've been taking (was taking 300-400 mg seroquel but tapered to less than 50mg for past coule of months).
> >
> > The first night (two nights ago) I took 2mg of lunesta and about 25 mg of seroquel. Went to sleep easily but woke up early (maybe got 4 hours or so of sleep) and could not get back to sleep after that. Did not seem to have the munchies as much as with seroquel but felt ok except for this really weird taste in my mouth which lasted through half of the next day. The taste is most noticable when I drink water, lingering bitter taste. The second night on Lunesta I took 2mg lunesta and no seroquel, I slept for a bit and woke up, I took another 2mg of Lunesta and went back to bed, slept a few hours and woke up again not really able to get back to sleep.
> >
> > So that is my first two nights on Lunesta. Tonight I feel a little weird. I don't know what to take now... but I know I won't sleep without an effective sedative.
> >
> > I'm bummed that lunesta isn't much better than it seems to me.
> >
> > This chronic insomnia has been killing me for many years and seroquel is not really very gentle for me. None of my doctors will prescribe benzos on a regular basis but they have been effective and by far the gentlest of them all for for me. The benzo tolerance effect is a pain but with careful dosing I found could be manageable for a long time.
> >
> > Seroquel makes me hungry and fat, affects my vision in a bad way, dries out and inflames my throat, irritates my sinuses and does other weird physical and mental stuff... but I either take that or friggin die of insomnia the way it is for me now.
> >
> > I'm disappointed in lunesta. it's hard to believe we can put a man on the moon but can't have a gentle and effective medication for chronic insomnia.
>
>
> Have you tried Ambien? it works faster than Lunesta, but not as long. I liked ambien, but I needed something stronger. I have read some posts that mention Remeron?
> Vivi
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