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Posted by mknight on April 13, 2005, at 23:10:04
After being stoned, spacey, fatigued and exhausted for 8 years, I went to the hospital for 5 days with an intestinal infection of unknown cause. I was put on a saline IV solution along with IV antibiotics, Flagyl and Cipro. When I returned home, I felt absolutely normal for 3 months. Then little by little my problems returned and by the 6 month point I had to go back on antidepressants. What I find interesting is that a year later I was back in the hospital with a burst appendix and abdominal cavity infection. I was put on the same IV solution and the same antibiotics for 5 days. When I returned home, I had about 3 months of life again. Then by month 5 I was on antidepressants again. Any ideas what could have made such a drastic change in my condition? The IV solution contained sodium, chloride, potassium, and either calcium or magnesium. Maybe I have an electrolyte imbalance or an acid/alkaline problem, but I just recently had a blood test to check liver function and serum electrolytes are in the normal range. If the change was from the antibiotics, why? They could only have removed bacteria, not fungus, mold, yeast, or parasites. Antidepressants do not make me feel normal, they just make me functional. If I could take something that would make me feel normal and not cause unknown damage to my brain or body, it would sure be better.
Posted by WeeWilly on April 13, 2005, at 23:47:19
In reply to What could have made a change, posted by mknight on April 13, 2005, at 23:10:04
All the systems in our biochemistry are intertwined. The immune , endocrine, cns, etc.. Enough is not known about these systems to have much of idea what could be at play in your condition. May be you could find a doctor who would work with you on this and possible treat you with this IV treatment every few months. It certainly could be possible that it resets your circadian rhythms. Then with time your rhythms shift over into a condition like "jet lag". I can relate. I experience something like this, but have come to the conclusion that I do not produce enough of the hormonal protein Inhibin. At present no one else has ever associated Inhibin with mood problems or circadian rhythms. It is a matter of finding a treatment that will make our lives bearable and then hopefully soon with clearer understanding of our biochemical processes we will have treatments that directly address our disorders. Best wishes
Posted by PM80 on April 14, 2005, at 10:25:44
In reply to What could have made a change, posted by mknight on April 13, 2005, at 23:10:04
I'm not a doctor, or a nurse, or in the med field at all, but I do know that our bodies tend to tell us what is and isn't good for us. Our bodies are pretty smart in their own right. Listen to your body and find a doctor that also is willing to listen. Obviously, there is a trend here. Even if the doc doesn't know why (although the fact that you are getting tests done is great), clearly you have found one solution that solves your depression problem. The results speak for themselves. Don't be afraid to try something else if the doc has a suggestion, but be clear with your doctor if an alternate solution does not work as well (for example, antidepressants). It does sound like your problem is mostly or completely biological, and perhaps caused by something other than the typical depression-type of chemical imbalance.
Posted by jessers11581 on April 14, 2005, at 15:11:31
In reply to What could have made a change, posted by mknight on April 13, 2005, at 23:10:04
--"If the change was from the antibiotics, why? They could only have removed bacteria, not fungus, mold, yeast, or parasites".--
Antibiotics kill off all the body's beneficial bacteria along with the bad stuff. This can leave you susestible to yeasts, parasites, and all kinds of other problems. This is something that I've done a great deal of research in. In fact, I suspect myself of having a candidiasis problem in my small intestine and am going to be having some tests run in a couple of weeks to see. Do you constantly feel run down, get bloated/gassy, have sugar cravings, get yeast infections, have a white-coated tongue, etc? All of these are signs of a yeast overgrowth. The best thing you can do is start taking probiotics (acidophilus, bifidus, etc.), and use LOTS of them after any antibiotic cycles. They replace all the good bacteria that you've lost. Hope this helps!
Posted by Phillipa on April 14, 2005, at 19:00:51
In reply to Re: What could have made a change, posted by jessers11581 on April 14, 2005, at 15:11:31
The other thing is could you have some sort of chronic infection like I have Lymes disease. It comes and goes and antibiotics will put it in remission. Ever have a tick bite that you're aware of. Someone just mentioned lymes again on a thread and this made me remember my own dx of chronic lymes. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by bimini on April 15, 2005, at 7:12:10
In reply to What could have made a change, posted by mknight on April 13, 2005, at 23:10:04
'intestinal infection of unknown cause + burst appendix and abdominal cavity infection + saline IV solution along with IV antibiotics'
Besides the common IV treatment was the infection. A body fighting infection redirects priorities and the system goes automatic pilot style weird to protect self. Not that our body does this in order to balance itself, ITSELF. Kind of like shooting oneself in the foot in order for a head ache to go away.
So besides the saline and antibiotics are the natural chemical changes in the body forced on by the autonomic systems to fight infection and to preserve and protect the self, effects from the change trickle down/up and reset slowly.
bimini
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