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Posted by ed_uk on January 19, 2005, at 8:43:53
Hi,
Since stopping lofepramine a few days ago I've had a few episodes of sleep paralysis with hallucinations. Has anyone else experienced this? I couldn't move and hallucinated that I was being pinned down and raped.
Ed.
Posted by Shortelise on January 19, 2005, at 12:02:42
In reply to Sleep Paralysis, posted by ed_uk on January 19, 2005, at 8:43:53
No, I haven't, but I am SO sorry you experienced this. I know how real it can seem.
Hugs,
ShortE
Posted by pretty_paints on January 19, 2005, at 15:06:27
In reply to Re: Sleep Paralysis » ed_uk, posted by Shortelise on January 19, 2005, at 12:02:42
Hi Ed,
Oh that sounds horrible :( Hope it wasn't too realistic :(
Hugs
Kate
Posted by xbunny on January 19, 2005, at 16:50:11
In reply to Sleep Paralysis, posted by ed_uk on January 19, 2005, at 8:43:53
Hi Ed,
> Since stopping lofepramine a few days ago I've had a few episodes of sleep paralysis with hallucinations. Has anyone else experienced this? I couldn't move and hallucinated that I was being pinned down and raped.
I get similar things to that. The other day for example I decided to doze on the sofa, I was perfectly aware of were I was and what I was doing but I couldnt move and experienced that robed figures administered me ect. My foot was twitching and I had a loud buzzing in my ears and pulsing headache. I have never had ect so the experience is conjecture. The experience lasted about 15 mins. It then took me 7 or 8 attempts to properly wake each time I tried to get up off the sofa I would step out of my body and have to shake myself to get back in it to try again. Things like that happen alot to me if I sleep during the day. Never noticed an increase in it when I stopped lofepramine though. Hope your experience hasnt left you too shaken. Bunny
Posted by phillipa on January 19, 2005, at 16:50:33
In reply to Re: Sleep Paralysis, posted by pretty_paints on January 19, 2005, at 15:06:27
Hi Ed! Could it be the fact that you just stopped the med and are sleeping in new surroundings. Maybe anxiety at being back at school?. Fondly, Phillipa O
Posted by Iansf on January 19, 2005, at 17:51:24
In reply to Sleep Paralysis, posted by ed_uk on January 19, 2005, at 8:43:53
> Hi,
>
> Since stopping lofepramine a few days ago I've had a few episodes of sleep paralysis with hallucinations. Has anyone else experienced this? I couldn't move and hallucinated that I was being pinned down and raped.
>
> Ed.May I ask why you stopped taking lofepramine? You 've spoken quite positively about it.
Also, were you aware that your hallucination was a hallucination or did it seem so real that you actually believed it was happening?
John
Posted by zeugma on January 19, 2005, at 18:39:28
In reply to Sleep Paralysis, posted by ed_uk on January 19, 2005, at 8:43:53
hi ed.
The fact that you stopped lofepramine suddenly produced 'cholinergic rebound.' The potent NE reuptake inhibition of lofepramine produced an artificially suppressed cholinergic system, which resulted in an exaggerated REM latency. when tyhe lofepramine was discontinued, the cholinergic system, rendered super-sensitive, rebounded full-force and took you right into dreamland even before losing consciousness (REM atonia).
Why did you discontinue lofepramine suddenly?
-z
Posted by ace on January 19, 2005, at 20:20:15
In reply to Sleep Paralysis, posted by ed_uk on January 19, 2005, at 8:43:53
> Hi,
>
> Since stopping lofepramine a few days ago I've had a few episodes of sleep paralysis with hallucinations. Has anyone else experienced this? I couldn't move and hallucinated that I was being pinned down and raped.
>
> Ed.Man, I HATE sleep paralysis...I have had it quite a few times but it doesn't really correlate to any particular medicine....except the first 2 nights on 50mg Seroquel i experienced...I have delusions and the same that u describe...i find it very scary and wonder if my body will ever obey my will and move...i am scared of being frozen forever...when it happens i try to fall off the bed to regain total consciousness...its a weird phenomenon dude, but Ace is investigating!
Ace
Posted by saw on January 20, 2005, at 2:15:19
In reply to Sleep Paralysis, posted by ed_uk on January 19, 2005, at 8:43:53
Oh, I am so sorry for this dreadful experience.
I have had this too during my night terrors. This was before and whilst taking Effexor. I would be awake but be asleep - I know that sounds crazy. I would feel the most terrifying sense of doom and feel a presence trying to either hold me down or push me through the bed. I had the sense of not being able to breath and would feel completely paralysed. I don't know how I brought myself out of this state but I would wake fully gasping for air and feeling utterly terrified to go back to sleep. If I did, the terror or dream would pick up where it left off. It is one of the most traumatizing aspects of my illness. Fortunately, I have been sleeping a bit better lately.
Sabrina
Posted by aminated on January 23, 2005, at 2:01:14
In reply to Re: Sleep Paralysis » ed_uk, posted by saw on January 20, 2005, at 2:15:19
I've experienced this with the characteristics described in the above posts (shadowy man sitting on my chest plus total motor incapacitation), but only for a few minutes. I was told it was an hypnogogic (or hypnopompic?) hallucination. ( One occurs when falling asleep, the other when waking.) The brain wakes the 'wrong' way with this, so partial conciousness, really a 'waking' dream, occurs, i.e., an hullucination, and i'll add that the 2 times it happened to me i wasn't even bipolar yet. They WERE the most terrifying experiences i can recall ever having.
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