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Posted by Sebastian on September 27, 2003, at 18:09:51
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 27, 2003, at 3:52:53
Where do I go?
Posted by Sebastian on September 27, 2003, at 18:11:31
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 27, 2003, at 3:53:38
Easyer to handle, less side-effects. So 8 hours??
Posted by cybercafe on September 28, 2003, at 3:14:32
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 27, 2003, at 18:09:51
> Where do I go?
a club is my preference, because that way if you are embarassed about what you are saying, no one else can hear (even yourself haha) because of loud music.... also it's dark so that also helps with the feeling of anonymity.... and you don't feel as anxious, because you see other people talking to strangers, and it seems like a natural thing to do... .also people are in high spirits, so they are more likely to enjoy talking with you
i dunno man i NEVER thought i could do it until i actually had a friend take me out and then boom! you just do it, and you go from socially isolated to leading a fulfilling social life ... totally changed my life
oh one thing that really surprised me is talking to people was really terrifying at first, but! what i didn't know is very quickly (after talking to 2 or 3 groups of people) i got used to it and my major fear (BAD social anxiety) turned into EXCITEMENT .... so you have to have some courage, and in my case, some benzos too :)
man i wish i was in the area so we could get together and help each other, you seem like a good guy sebastian
Posted by cybercafe on September 28, 2003, at 3:15:56
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 27, 2003, at 18:11:31
> Easyer to handle, less side-effects. So 8 hours??
dunno, i decreased my celexa from 55 to 50 mg, and felt my libido go up a lot, but also slept like 12 hours instead of my usual 5-8, arrg
Posted by Lazarus on September 28, 2003, at 14:22:32
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 28, 2003, at 3:14:32
> man i wish i was in the area so we could get together and help each other, you seem like a good guy sebastian
That was a nice post. :)Lazarus
Posted by cybercafe on September 28, 2003, at 16:37:08
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by Lazarus on September 28, 2003, at 14:22:32
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> > man i wish i was in the area so we could get together and help each other, you seem like a good guy sebastian
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> That was a nice post. :)
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> Lazarus
>it's just tough to find understanding, openminded and cool people in real life
it's so incredable how much effect the internet has had on my wellbeing
YOU GUYS should be getting paid the money that my doctors are too busy to receive
Posted by Sebastian on September 28, 2003, at 18:09:05
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 28, 2003, at 16:37:08
No kiding! I keep wondering when they will charge for psycho-babble?
Posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 16:24:27
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 28, 2003, at 3:15:56
Hey Guys,
Abilify is giving me anxiety, panic attacks and rage. I'm only taking 2.5 - 3.75 mg! I had to take 1.25 mg Zyprexa yesterday to calm down. This is a disappointing setback; I was getting to really like the drug.
Lazarus
Posted by cybercafe on September 29, 2003, at 17:09:16
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 16:24:27
> Hey Guys,
>
> Abilify is giving me anxiety, panic attacks and rage. I'm only taking 2.5 - 3.75 mg! I had to take 1.25 mg Zyprexa yesterday to calm down. This is a disappointing setback; I was getting to really like the drug.oh did you just increase your dose to 3.75? if so, maybe it's just temporary.
Posted by cybercafe on September 29, 2003, at 17:10:26
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 28, 2003, at 18:09:05
> No kiding! I keep wondering when they will charge for psycho-babble?
hmmm.... if i knew there were so many people out there with these problems and internet access and so knowledgable etc i would have put up my own site yeeeeeeears ago !
Posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 17:25:26
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 29, 2003, at 17:09:16
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Abilify is giving me anxiety, panic attacks and rage. I'm only taking 2.5 - 3.75 mg! I had to take 1.25 mg Zyprexa yesterday to calm down. This is a disappointing setback; I was getting to really like the drug.> oh did you just increase your dose to 3.75? if so, maybe it's just temporary.
I'm not sure exactly how much I'm taking. Cutting up the small pills into fourths or smaller is very difficult. I don't know how much I'm actually ingesting. This is all very distressing. My mood today is very unstable; this rapid cycling is tiring. Lastly, I'm driving those around me nuts!!!!!!
You're taking 3.75 mg, n'est-ce pas? Are you experiencing any panic at that dosage? Help!
Lazarus
Posted by Sebastian on September 29, 2003, at 18:23:30
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 29, 2003, at 17:10:26
Thats comforting! One of a kind, in a select group. I was wondering if there were others. Boy was I happy to see this site. Couldn't belive what I was seeing. Thought I was the only one?
Posted by Sebastian on September 29, 2003, at 18:28:12
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 29, 2003, at 17:09:16
Are the 30 mg pills at least .5 cm or bigger in diamiter? Are they hard to cut? I bet its best to fully cut the pills when you take them out. Seems once they hit much air they get soggy. When they come out of the blisters they cut very precisely.
Posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 21:42:56
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by Sebastian on September 29, 2003, at 18:28:12
Seb, I cut the Abilify pills when I snap them out of the blister pak. However, the pills are still very small (both the 10 mg tablets and the 15 mg tablets). The 10 mg's are easier to cut into fourths because they are oblong. The 15's are round and much more difficult to cut evenly. My doc gave me both 10 and 15 mg blister paks so I have to learn to cut both types of pills.
My experience today on the Abilify was very, very bad and I'm going to skip a dosing tomorrow. I really like the Zyprexa, but feel that I've become dependent on it for both sleep and mood stabilization.
Lazarus
Posted by cybercafe on September 30, 2003, at 1:16:56
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 17:25:26
> I'm not sure exactly how much I'm taking. Cutting up the small pills into fourths or smaller is very difficult. I don't know how much I'm actually ingesting. This is all very distressing. My mood today is very unstable; this rapid cycling is tiring. Lastly, I'm driving those around me nuts!!!!!!
i thought you were taking 2.5mg before??
are you taking 1/4 of a 15 mg or 10 mg tablet?
> You're taking 3.75 mg, n'est-ce pas? Are you experiencing any panic at that dosage? Help!nope... but i've had a few weeks to get used to it
i also take benzos, so i might not be able to tell
Posted by cybercafe on September 30, 2003, at 1:18:59
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by Sebastian on September 29, 2003, at 18:28:12
> Are the 30 mg pills at least .5 cm or bigger in diamiter? Are they hard to cut? I bet its best to fully cut the pills when you take them out. Seems once they hit much air they get soggy. When they come out of the blisters they cut very precisely.
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dunno the biggest zyprexa pills i had were 5 mg
Posted by cybercafe on September 30, 2003, at 1:20:10
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! AbilifySebastian, posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 21:42:56
> Seb, I cut the Abilify pills when I snap them out of the blister pak. However, the pills are still very small (both the 10 mg tablets and the 15 mg tablets). The 10 mg's are easier to cut into fourths because they are oblong. The 15's are round and much more difficult to cut evenly. My doc gave me both 10 and 15 mg blister paks so I have to learn to cut both types of pills.
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> My experience today on the Abilify was very, very bad and I'm going to skip a dosing tomorrow. I really like the Zyprexa, but feel that I've become dependent on it for both sleep and mood stabilization.
>
> Lazarus
>oh... did you stop taking your zyprexa today? is that what caused the mood instability?
>
Posted by Sebastian on September 30, 2003, at 11:43:34
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! AbilifySebastian, posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 21:42:56
Sounds like you may be experiencing the change from zyprexa to abilify. I noticed some pritty horible effects a month after starting to take abilify even though I had stoped. I think it could be the abilify.
Posted by Sebastian on September 30, 2003, at 11:46:07
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 30, 2003, at 1:18:59
30 mg Abilify pills!
Posted by Sebastian on September 30, 2003, at 11:50:26
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! AbilifySebastian, posted by Lazarus on September 29, 2003, at 21:42:56
I imagine the 15 mg pills are hard to cut into 1/6? How do you do it, like a pizza pie?
Posted by cybercafe on September 30, 2003, at 12:54:51
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 30, 2003, at 11:46:07
> 30 mg Abilify pills!
actually i have 8 sample packs of 15 mg pills
Posted by cybercafe on September 30, 2003, at 15:56:36
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! AbilifySebastian » Lazarus, posted by Sebastian on September 30, 2003, at 11:50:26
hmmm... i couldn't fall asleep until around 6 am today... then woke up around noon..... for someone who is used to getting 14 hours of sleep a day........ i don't kjnow what to do with myself for these extra 8 hours
Posted by Lazarus on September 30, 2003, at 18:43:53
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! AbilifySebastian » Lazarus, posted by Sebastian on September 30, 2003, at 11:50:26
> I imagine the 15 mg pills are hard to cut into 1/6? How do you do it, like a pizza pie?
Cutting the 15 mg Abilify pills into sixths is impossible; the best I've been able to do is cut them into fourths (1/2 then 1/2 again), resulting in a 3.75 mg pill. Cutting a 10 mg Abilify pill into fourths yields a 2.5 mg pill. That is why I sometimes take 2.5 mg and at other times 3.75.
Often I don't feel any effect from the 2.5 mg dose; I need to take 3.75 mg in order to "feel it". I would like to take 5 mg but I have akathesia at that dosage.
I have the same problem with Zyprexa. I would like to take 5 mg but was prescribed only 2.5 mg daily. Now my doc has told me to reduce my dose to 1.25 mg (1/2 of a 2.5). As a result I'm not sleeping well...too many vivid dreams, etc. It's not so much withdrawal, rather I am probably returning to the state I was in before beginning Zyprexa treatment. I like the way Zyprexa blunts your emotions.
I hope you are doing well on your dosage of Zyprexa (5 mg daily?).
Lazarus
Posted by Lazarus on September 30, 2003, at 18:53:56
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 30, 2003, at 1:16:56
> You're taking 3.75 mg, n'est-ce pas? Are you experiencing any panic at that dosage? Help!
>
> nope... but i've had a few weeks to get used to it
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> i also take benzos, so i might not be able to tellCyber,
I'm not on any benzos. Sometimes my psychiatrist will give me 10 mg Librium capsules but I am all out of them. I just have to put up with the anxiety as it happens. I have some Equagesic tablets (Equanil plus aspirin) but I reserve them for really bad headaches only.
Lazarus
Posted by cybercafe on October 1, 2003, at 1:28:08
In reply to Re: Sebastian ! Abilify Sebastian, posted by Lazarus on September 30, 2003, at 18:43:53
>into fourths yields a 2.5 mg pill. That is why I sometimes take 2.5 mg and at other times 3.75.
.. so that must be why you are experiencing this transient effects...
> Often I don't feel any effect from the 2.5 mg dose; I need to take 3.75 mg in order to "feel it". I would like to take 5 mg but I have akathesia at that dosage.what is it that you intend to "feel"? because it takes about 15 or 18 days to reach peak plasma level, plus some extra time for your brain to adapt, so i don't think you can expect to feel an effect right away
but you feel akathisia the first time you take an increased dose? hmmmm..... any idea how long it takes to get used to it?
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