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Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6

Posted by BLKVETTES on September 18, 2003, at 17:18:55

In reply to Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6 » BLKVETTES, posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 17:01:56

> Hi Wayne, thanks for some feedback:-) I haven't had the redness around my neck and face from the Lexapro. If I scratch my neck or I blush, I get red, and it seems to stay longer~but very rarely.
> I know you're not menopausal! Maybe it's still your anxiety/nerves, but the Lexapro is helping physiologically, but still shows up as redness physically? Just a thought.......
> Now....R U sure that your redness around your neck wasn't from wearing the garlic the other night ;) HA!
> Anyway, you also said that you had another idea, but sounded hesitant to share it. I'm very intersted in that if you don't mind posting it? If you don't want to post it, you're welcome to email me~let me know k?
> Maybe jimbo has an idea where some threads are on this for us.
> :-)
> thanks again!
>
>
>
> > Hi, I notice you and Gal are complaining about anxiety well after you both started lexapro. I relate to the numbness and hot feeling and anxiety of course. But it would be hard for me to answer because I started with panic attacks and anxiety. It could be the body just going through an adjustment period to the med. I have another idea but really dont want to share it because its just stuff I read and my own thoughts. People have complained about this on all boards time to time. But they disappear and you never know how things worked out. Maybe Jim has run across some old posts we can look at. But I do have one question!!!!! Do you notice around your neck and face redness that never leaves since starting lexapro? TAKE CARE!!!!
> > WAYNE
> >

Hi Gal, I was mainly posting about the user banab!!! I am fine and have no problems. I just find it odd that all side effects go away and return as anxiety weeks later. I will read a few things and post back after hearing from others. Or maybe someone will post and all questions will be answered!!! But I have not heard anything on this that makes my curiousity go away. TAKE CARE!!!
WAYNE

 

re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! (nm) » galkeepinon

Posted by lil' jimi on September 18, 2003, at 17:34:49

In reply to Re: zero no more???????~jim » lil' jimi, posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 17:05:39

 

Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6 » BLKVETTES

Posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 17:45:39

In reply to Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6, posted by BLKVETTES on September 18, 2003, at 17:18:55

Ah ok got ya:-) It is odd that side effects can go away and return after a few weeks, it makes me wonder if this Lexapro is successful for long term. Maybe someone can shed some light!!!
My anxiety is better today.
Take Care!

> Hi Gal, I was mainly posting about the user banab!!! I am fine and have no problems. I just find it odd that all side effects go away and return as anxiety weeks later. I will read a few things and post back after hearing from others. Or maybe someone will post and all questions will be answered!!! But I have not heard anything on this that makes my curiousity go away. TAKE CARE!!!
> WAYNE
>
>

 

Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6 » BLKVETTES

Posted by JaneB on September 18, 2003, at 17:58:02

In reply to Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6, posted by BLKVETTES on September 18, 2003, at 17:18:55

Wayne,
I didn't get redness but I sure had an itchiness on the back of my head and then I got a rash on both shins. Maybe I was just taking too much. I don't know. But I stopped and eventually the rash went away.
Jane

 

Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl » Dr. Bob

Posted by johnny b good on September 18, 2003, at 21:40:47

In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48

Hi to all of you. I am making my first post here today but have been following the writings for days now. I am in day 25 on Lexapro and have been having some good days and some less than good days so far. I know from reading the posts from you guys that it takes a while to get there. The medication is trying to work but not quite there yet. Some background on me: 58 yr old male. Recovering alcoholic. Been sober for over ten years with the help of Alcoholics Anonymous. Self medicated with alcohol on a daily basis for 25 years. My then family doctor told me after researching the results of my blood test, that I would have to either live without alcohol or my liver. He said "the choice is yours". I knew more old drunks than I did old doctors so I gave up my doctor. After two more years of denial the alcohol quit working and I couldn't drink enough to stop the pain. I became an AA member and was shown how to live my life without the crutch of alcohol. It was nice to see the world with a clear head but bouts of depression and anxiety were nipping at my heels. After a year or so I sought medical help for it and was introduced to AD's for the first time. Some worked and some didn't but at least I found out that I didn't have to live that way....Thank God. More lately I have been on Paxil for several years and did well except for the weight gain. Back in July I spent several days at my cabin at a ranch where we spend time and forgetfully came home without my medication. It is over 300+ miles away so going back for it was not an option. I made the decision to make the best of a bad situation and declared myself drug free. Right,no more Paxil.
By the way I don't recommend the cold turkey withdrawal method that I used for anyone. I have been on an exercise program at the local health club since May and managed to lose 25+ lbs in the process. So I stayed with the exercise routine in hopes that it would help me to live my life without the help of AD's. After about 6 weeks off medication I began to notice those old familiar dark clouds forming overhead and slowly but surely my zest for life started to slooowwww dowwnnn. I know the signs all too well so I tucked my pride away and saw my p-doc and confessed what I had done. Doc told me about this new wonder drug Lexapro and suggested I give it a whirl. The rest is soon to be history so I am going to see how it goes. You don't know what a comfort it is to have this board to turn to when the days seem hopeless. I know that I will soon be back to feeling great and I will post as often as I can to help those who are struggling to understand that good will only come through persistence. My side effects have not been that terrible and couldn't even compare to some hang overs I've had back in the day. Lets keep on keepin on.

 

Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl » johnny b good

Posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:13:23

In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl » Dr. Bob, posted by johnny b good on September 18, 2003, at 21:40:47

Welcome to the board jonny be good!! Sounds like the Lexapro has been treating you fairly well. Glad to hear your not suffering major SE's.

Congrats on your 10 years sobriety as well. That is great! Many one day's at a time, I'm sure.

Look forward to seeing your posts here. Take care and I wish you continued success with the Lex!

Arrianna

 

Re: laughter » lil' jimi

Posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:19:28

In reply to laughter » Mariposa, posted by lil' jimi on September 17, 2003, at 11:38:33

Hi jim!

I don't know-Wayne may be the funny one, yet I think you're the jokester. Ha!! Your posts do add quite a bit of entertainment value!! You add so much.

Anyway, how's the lex? By the sounds of it, still working well. Yeah, good for you!!

Arrianna

 

re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! » lil' jimi

Posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:25:19

In reply to re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! (nm) » galkeepinon, posted by lil' jimi on September 18, 2003, at 17:34:49

Hey Jim!

Glad to hear you got your Lex!! We need you to have your lex-a-pro magic for the board!!

I'm going out of town this weekend with my family to help my grandma move. Definetely going to need my lex to get me through that. Family can be ???? at times, you know. So, I made sure to pack my meds. right away.

Anyways, really going to miss the board while I'm gone. Hope I don't go through psycho-babble withdrawals. Anyway got any suggestions for that? Lol.

See ya' in the posts next week!
Arrianna

 

Re: Lexapro kicking in » sussus

Posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:34:40

In reply to Re: Lexapro kicking in, posted by sussus on September 18, 2003, at 11:26:11

sussus:

Of course you can ask. I've been on 10mg. Lex now for 10 weeks.

Sorry to hear that you're having trouble with anxiety. Maybe it would be a good idea to try raising your dose.

I wish I could offer you more help, however, I've not gone through that yet. So far, the lex has been effective in treating my anxiety except for some very mild anxiety occasionally due to changes in my life, and not necessarily from the lexapro.

There have been other posts regarding this about raising the dose of lex, so maybe they could offer some insight, or others who read this and have experienced what your going through could add some feedback.

Can I ask: is there anything going on in your life that could be contributing to your anxiety? If so, maybe once that's worked through, your anxiety would lessen. If not, I think you'd be doing the right thing about going to your Doc.

What's everyone else think?

Good Luck to you! Hang in there, and I hope it gets better for you!! Let us know what happens, k?

Arrianna

 

re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! » Arrianna

Posted by galkeepinon on September 19, 2003, at 0:14:04

In reply to re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! » lil' jimi, posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:25:19

Arrianna:( I'm going to miss seeing posts from you this weekend! Best wishes in helping your grandma move. Oh ya~don't forget to take that Lex ha!
Glad you packed your meds right away:-)
I'm feeling anxious on this Lex lately like there are butterflies in my tummy lol
The board is going to miss you too!!!
For PB withdrawals, try to think of all the laughs and success we've all had if you start to feel stressed. LOL
okee dokee?!
See ya in the posts when you get back:-)
Galkeepinon


I'm going out of town this weekend with my family to help my grandma move. Definetely going to need my lex to get me through that. Family can be ???? at times, you know. So, I made sure to pack my meds. right away.
>
> Anyways, really going to miss the board while I'm gone. Hope I don't go through psycho-babble withdrawals. Anyway got any suggestions for that? Lol.
>
> See ya' in the posts next week!
> Arrianna

 

Re: balance and coordination » lil' jimi

Posted by galkeepinon on September 19, 2003, at 3:09:16

In reply to balance and coordination » galkeepinon, posted by lil' jimi on September 18, 2003, at 2:57:13

hey jim, yeah I'm sitting here feeling like my stomach is going like a roller coaster tonight. I'm not sure what's going on, but if it gets worse tomorrow~I'm calling my doc!
Haven't been drinking much water at all! Need to do that! I have Klonopin but only take 2mg at night. I hope I don't need to take more.
This is just like a VERY NERVOUS feeling~very weird!!!
take care Lex buddy


> ... now that we all know that our good epinephrine is adrenaline, we can imagine how our always interacting neurotransmitters can create our anxiety symptoms ...
>
> ... so sorry you're having a rough time there, Gal ... have you a benzo supplement to use ?
> ... or so i am hoping ...
> ... been drinking enough water lately, like today ?
>
> we may also imagine that our motor coordination suffrs when our dopamine levels make adjustments too
> ... ... be careful there, Gal ... !!
>
> i remember on ol' boy posted what i thought would be the worse lexapro side-effect symptom:
> ... a broken toe !
>
> he lost his balance, fell and broke it ...
> everybody, Watch out now !
>
> take care sweet lady and try to relax
> ... a warm (hot?) bath, maybe ?
>
> ~ jim
>
>

 

Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6 » Banab

Posted by galkeepinon on September 19, 2003, at 3:11:57

In reply to Re: ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6, posted by Banab on September 18, 2003, at 13:49:15

Yikes!!! I'm just getting a total nervous tummy, never felt this way before.
I've felt like you say here before, it could be anxiety or panic, or adjustment like jim said to the Lexapro still.
When does Lexapro stop *adjusting*!!!


> I am at the end of week 5 of taking Lexapro. I had an adjustment period the first week I was on it, but then started feeling really good. I started feel "like my old self again" and have felt good up until now.
>
> Now I have started having severe anxiety leading to panic to where I can't function. The main disturbing symptom is my chest will hurt a little, then my trunk and arms will go all hot, tingly and numb. Like I'm being pricked from the inside. I will have waves of this that last from 2 - 4 hours. I have had two episodes of this.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this sensation? What is it from? Is it just a symptom of axiety?

 

re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! » galkeepinon

Posted by Arrianna on September 19, 2003, at 8:24:18

In reply to re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! » Arrianna, posted by galkeepinon on September 19, 2003, at 0:14:04

Gal:

Just got your post this morning and it really put a smile on my face!! Thanks so much for your kindness.

Sincerely, it really feels as if I know you, along with the rest of the board, even though we've never met. I love my psycho-babble family!

Well, I'm about to leave to go out of town now. Thanks again for your post-was feeling ambivilent (sp?) about being with my family, but your post helped so much. I will think of you guys when I'm away!

Oh yeah, the butterflies must really be starting to come out this fall because I've been having the feeling of them in my tummy, too!! Just another "lex" thing. I hope it passes for you and me, too.

Have a great weekend all!! Keep on keeping on!
Arrianna

 

Re: Lexapro kicking in

Posted by sussus on September 19, 2003, at 9:05:04

In reply to Re: Lexapro kicking in » sussus, posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:34:40

Ar - Thanks for the feedback. There are things happening in my life that are anxiety preoducing. In the last two months, I have bought and redone an 80 year old house plus my boyfriend just filed for custody of his three kids - which will make me a fulltime mom. Yikes! I know that the point is not to dull out all feelings; I am just having a hard time with handling everyday tasks and that, in itself, is depressing......

Sus

> sussus:
>
> Of course you can ask. I've been on 10mg. Lex now for 10 weeks.
>
> Sorry to hear that you're having trouble with anxiety. Maybe it would be a good idea to try raising your dose.
>
> I wish I could offer you more help, however, I've not gone through that yet. So far, the lex has been effective in treating my anxiety except for some very mild anxiety occasionally due to changes in my life, and not necessarily from the lexapro.
>
> There have been other posts regarding this about raising the dose of lex, so maybe they could offer some insight, or others who read this and have experienced what your going through could add some feedback.
>
> Can I ask: is there anything going on in your life that could be contributing to your anxiety? If so, maybe once that's worked through, your anxiety would lessen. If not, I think you'd be doing the right thing about going to your Doc.
>
> What's everyone else think?
>
> Good Luck to you! Hang in there, and I hope it gets better for you!! Let us know what happens, k?
>
> Arrianna

 

re: PHV's Lexapro Side Effects

Posted by mph-speedy on September 19, 2003, at 11:22:50

In reply to re: PHV's Lexapro Side Effects » lil' jimi, posted by phv on September 15, 2003, at 17:48:54

Hey Patty!

I'm coming up on 3 months and have been steadily improving after each "minor" setback. I had almost immediate results with the cloud lifting and paranoia. It has taken longer to get anger under control but has gone from hard to manage to fairly easy to deal with to not much anger anymore.

So I say hang in there.

Minor side effects I still have are excessive yawning some days, thirst, gas, and shoulder/neck stiffness. However, in my mind a small price to pay for peace of mind - as opposed to only having a piece of my mind!

Take care...

Speedy

 

re: PHV's Lexapro Side Effects

Posted by leedsman on September 19, 2003, at 12:01:52

In reply to re: PHV's Lexapro Side Effects, posted by mph-speedy on September 19, 2003, at 11:22:50

Hey guys, I am having a real problem with this shoulder and neck pain, I do not know if it is the fibromyalgia, but it is very debilitating, which I think is also causing the dry eye syndrome and fatigue, when I was on PAxil I did not have this pain and dry eyes, but since the lexapro, it started about 3 weeks ago and I am really worried that this will linger and make me totally nuts, Any suggestions or anybody been through this kind of thing. It is realy uncomfortable and I am not sur if the Lexapro is kicking in because I feel so terrible with this.

 

re: banab, Gal, sus, Mariposa (?): late(r) lex SEs

Posted by lil' jimi on September 19, 2003, at 16:10:15

In reply to ANXIETY AND LEXAPRO~Week 6, posted by galkeepinon on September 18, 2003, at 0:56:17

hi folks,

i have been keeping up reading here and
... i have been thinking about these late onset SEs you're having ... ...

Gal wrote this:
> Hi Esmarelda, I saw your post. I am having EXTREME anxiety yesterday and today. I start week 7, I believe on Friday. I'm so anxious right now I can't even think straight. I don't believe I have ever had this feeling~it's just plain ole anxiousness. Does this pass?
> Any insight anyone? I can't believe it has anything else to do with besides the Lex, because I have read some posts about what seems to happen to some at week 6 or 7. The depression is controllable, but I am anxious as heck!!!
> Typing fast, walking fast, shaking, heart skips, clenching jaw.
> Help please?? :(
> I am also losing my balance, it's scaring me just a tad. >

... of course my heart goes out to y'all ...
... we have gotten enough of these reports to where it looks like a pattern ... ... and, as Gal has suggested, this would be a pattern we would Not want to see ... ... better said and dealt with than to be in denial though ...

... but let's look at this a little more
... we have to see if this IS a pattern really ...
... we do have a cluster of events ...
... of four cases (hate to call y'all "cases" there ... sorry) which have this similar adversity ...
... now, no matter what i say here, i do Not want to trivialize your suffering
... ... i have deep faith and respect for your reports
... and real concern for your well being ...

but, say, very speculatively here, that there are even a couple dozen folks with this kind of experience
... ... not at all impossible, if we consider the posters as representaive of some number of non-posters ...

still, when compared to the thousands of lex users, these events seem less common and really too rare to label a trend ... ... yet anyway ...

and there are more than a few who have done very well up to 6 months (so far) and beyond ... i saw a post from Bil L yesterday and he is still doing fine ... ... he's been at 20 mg for a year .... and there are perhaps a dozen posters (i know of) who have gotten beyong this 7 week itch without a relapse ...

my speculation is that the main herd of lex users are tromping along our main sequence unperturbed ... ... while a smaller population of folks have detoured into this problem area here ...

i thought about labeling these events "late onset lex SEs" ... but decided that didn't pay sufficient respect to the fact that you already had your non-late SEs too ...

... of course, your ~ jim here is trying to avoid the "p. o." term
... ... (well no, Not "po'd" ... "poop out")
... no one here wants to hear that ...

then i recalled Mariposa's posts about upping her dose to 20mg
... ... as she struggled to get a medico to write her a 20mg script, she said that her new pdoc's theory was that she had adapted to the 10 mg dose and as her liver learned to be more proficient in metabolizing her dose, it had caught up with her by effectively breaking down her beneficial metabolites more quickly than her 10mg could make up for ... ... so she upped her dose and is doing much better ...

... this parallel does fail in one respect ... Mariposa's symptom was depression, not so much anxiety ... ... nevertheless, similar mechanism may be at work in your cases as well ...

now we could ignore the rest if the iceberg and focus just on Gal, susssus and banab ...

... it remains to be seen if these parallels hold up over time ... ... three events may well have completely different etiologies ... and time may tell ... should this prove true, then these events may be even less representative of effects we might see in the main lex herd ...

i remember once we had a minor panic break out on the tread because a poster gained like 8 pounds over one weekend ... two more reports of weight gain came in response ... ... some folks have been prescribed lex for eating disorders and these folks were fixing to panic ... ... and it wasn't making me real happy either ...

... within like a day and half, the first poster posted that her period had started and that she felt this explained her weight gain and her other adverse effects ... ... another began her period ... and was relieved that it wasn't the lex ... ... and everybody calmed down then ....

(i am a feminist and believe in women's liberation (even though most women don't ... seem to anymore) and in no way intend to demean women ... especially for their reproductive powers ... which i worship)
(and i am not speculating about anyone's current menstrual cycle(s) here ... either)

anyway, let's all just keep tabs on this and see how it plays out ...

... i always want everyone to keep their prescribers updated about their SEs
... 1) they need to know
... 2) we need them to know
... 3) they may be able to help
... 4) we have to educate them about SEs because they don't take lexapro ...
... Yet !
.... HA!

in this case, i think we may benefit by having each of ya'll (Gal, Sus, Banab) contact your doctor, discuss it with them, and then come back here and compare notes ...
so i'm calling these events "relapses" ... for now ...

... the thread continues to show no real signs of lex poop out as a consistent syndrome ... and where we have seen relapse, we have seen upping the dose as effective ... ... so far ... ...

... i know we must all have our fingers crossed for good luck here ... i do !

well, those are my thoughts, as speculative as they are ... sorry i don't have anything better to offer ... ... i hate feeling like i'm throwing a starving dog a rubber bone !... sorry ...

and now i'm starving ... (and in my own way, a dog too!) ... for your responses! ... ... as always ... from one and all ... post on posters!

and drink water, Please ??
do not let yourself get dehydrated ....

TAKE CARE ! ! ! ! !!
~ jim

 

re: laughter » Arrianna

Posted by lil' jimi on September 19, 2003, at 16:34:29

In reply to Re: laughter » lil' jimi, posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:19:28

hi arrianna,

> Hi jim!
>
> I don't know-Wayne may be the funny one, yet I think you're the jokester. Ha!! Your posts do add quite a bit of entertainment value!! You add so much. >

oooo ... flattery will get you anywhere ! ... Thanks! ... ... you, your own self are a beautuiful spirit to have here on our lex thread ... thanks for joining our little party ... you're good!

> Anyway, how's the lex? By the sounds of it, still working well. Yeah, good for you!!
>
> Arrianna

... oh, my lexapro is working fine ... now that i went out to buy some for myself! ... Finally!

thanks agian for your (always) kind reply!

take care and take your lexapro!
(and drink lots of water!)
~ jim

 

re: arrianna » Arrianna

Posted by lil' jimi on September 19, 2003, at 16:41:09

In reply to re: ~jim got some !! ... some _Lexapro_ !!! » lil' jimi, posted by Arrianna on September 18, 2003, at 23:25:19

hello arrianna ...

sorry if i missed you before you left town there ...

> Hey Jim!
>
> Glad to hear you got your Lex!! We need you to have your lex-a-pro magic for the board!!
>
> I'm going out of town this weekend with my family to help my grandma move. Definetely going to need my lex to get me through that. Family can be ???? at times, you know. So, I made sure to pack my meds. right away.
>
> Anyways, really going to miss the board while I'm gone. Hope I don't go through psycho-babble withdrawals. Anyway got any suggestions for that? Lol.
>
> See ya' in the posts next week!
> Arrianna

... glad you got your med(s?) !
... say hi to Granny for me !
... write down your thoughts and expeiences while you're there and you can post them when you come back ... ... maybe ?

you are going to be missed!
BE careful out there,
~ jim

 

re: concerns for relapse-thingy » galkeepinon

Posted by lil' jimi on September 19, 2003, at 16:50:42

In reply to Re: balance and coordination » lil' jimi, posted by galkeepinon on September 19, 2003, at 3:09:16

hi Galkeepinon!

definitely call the doc
... wished i suggested this earlier
... ... i'd want you to call him/her today
... ... the moreso since tomorrow is saturday ...

drink water !
and post, if it can help you feel better
... ... we have the blessing of a great team here!
... ... we want you to take advantage of it ...

.... Please?

take care !!!!!!!
~ jim

 

re: banab, Gal, sus, Mariposa (?): late(r) lex SEs » lil' jimi

Posted by galkeepinon on September 20, 2003, at 1:02:19

In reply to re: banab, Gal, sus, Mariposa (?): late(r) lex SEs, posted by lil' jimi on September 19, 2003, at 16:10:15

Jim, Thank you SO very much for taking the time to write this! YES! I will update you on my psychiatrist appt next time I see him and I hope others will also. I will definately ask him exactly the things you bring up here. I, personally have posted before about the fact that I have skipped menses, something still yet to be relieved/cured, whatever. I take Provera on occasion to bring about my period. It is not healthy not to get one.
I ended up taking 3mg of Klonopin last night and 50mg Lamictal to see if I could decrease some anxiety (my rationale anyway) and all I ended up with was a huge headache today. BUT, the extra Klonopin did help me and the nervous/very anxious feeling in my tummy.
So, yes, a lot remains to be seen from ALL of us taking Lexapro.
I will definately, like I said, post more when I see my psychiatrist in 2 weeks.
Jim~you da bomb!!! (in a good way of course)
HA!!! Thank you so much again for your support, insight, smarts, queries, and persistence:-):-)
Have a great weekend!
Gal


> hi folks,
>
> i have been keeping up reading here and
> ... i have been thinking about these late onset SEs you're having ... ...
>
> Gal wrote this:
> > Hi Esmarelda, I saw your post. I am having EXTREME anxiety yesterday and today. I start week 7, I believe on Friday. I'm so anxious right now I can't even think straight. I don't believe I have ever had this feeling~it's just plain ole anxiousness. Does this pass?
> > Any insight anyone? I can't believe it has anything else to do with besides the Lex, because I have read some posts about what seems to happen to some at week 6 or 7. The depression is controllable, but I am anxious as heck!!!
> > Typing fast, walking fast, shaking, heart skips, clenching jaw.
> > Help please?? :(
> > I am also losing my balance, it's scaring me just a tad. >
>
> ... of course my heart goes out to y'all ...
> ... we have gotten enough of these reports to where it looks like a pattern ... ... and, as Gal has suggested, this would be a pattern we would Not want to see ... ... better said and dealt with than to be in denial though ...
>
> ... but let's look at this a little more
> ... we have to see if this IS a pattern really ...
> ... we do have a cluster of events ...
> ... of four cases (hate to call y'all "cases" there ... sorry) which have this similar adversity ...
> ... now, no matter what i say here, i do Not want to trivialize your suffering
> ... ... i have deep faith and respect for your reports
> ... and real concern for your well being ...
>
> but, say, very speculatively here, that there are even a couple dozen folks with this kind of experience
> ... ... not at all impossible, if we consider the posters as representaive of some number of non-posters ...
>
> still, when compared to the thousands of lex users, these events seem less common and really too rare to label a trend ... ... yet anyway ...
>
> and there are more than a few who have done very well up to 6 months (so far) and beyond ... i saw a post from Bil L yesterday and he is still doing fine ... ... he's been at 20 mg for a year .... and there are perhaps a dozen posters (i know of) who have gotten beyong this 7 week itch without a relapse ...
>
> my speculation is that the main herd of lex users are tromping along our main sequence unperturbed ... ... while a smaller population of folks have detoured into this problem area here ...
>
> i thought about labeling these events "late onset lex SEs" ... but decided that didn't pay sufficient respect to the fact that you already had your non-late SEs too ...
>
> ... of course, your ~ jim here is trying to avoid the "p. o." term
> ... ... (well no, Not "po'd" ... "poop out")
> ... no one here wants to hear that ...
>
> then i recalled Mariposa's posts about upping her dose to 20mg
> ... ... as she struggled to get a medico to write her a 20mg script, she said that her new pdoc's theory was that she had adapted to the 10 mg dose and as her liver learned to be more proficient in metabolizing her dose, it had caught up with her by effectively breaking down her beneficial metabolites more quickly than her 10mg could make up for ... ... so she upped her dose and is doing much better ...
>
> ... this parallel does fail in one respect ... Mariposa's symptom was depression, not so much anxiety ... ... nevertheless, similar mechanism may be at work in your cases as well ...
>
> now we could ignore the rest if the iceberg and focus just on Gal, susssus and banab ...
>
> ... it remains to be seen if these parallels hold up over time ... ... three events may well have completely different etiologies ... and time may tell ... should this prove true, then these events may be even less representative of effects we might see in the main lex herd ...
>
> i remember once we had a minor panic break out on the tread because a poster gained like 8 pounds over one weekend ... two more reports of weight gain came in response ... ... some folks have been prescribed lex for eating disorders and these folks were fixing to panic ... ... and it wasn't making me real happy either ...
>
> ... within like a day and half, the first poster posted that her period had started and that she felt this explained her weight gain and her other adverse effects ... ... another began her period ... and was relieved that it wasn't the lex ... ... and everybody calmed down then ....
>
> (i am a feminist and believe in women's liberation (even though most women don't ... seem to anymore) and in no way intend to demean women ... especially for their reproductive powers ... which i worship)
> (and i am not speculating about anyone's current menstrual cycle(s) here ... either)
>
> anyway, let's all just keep tabs on this and see how it plays out ...
>
> ... i always want everyone to keep their prescribers updated about their SEs
> ... 1) they need to know
> ... 2) we need them to know
> ... 3) they may be able to help
> ... 4) we have to educate them about SEs because they don't take lexapro ...
> ... Yet !
> .... HA!
>
> in this case, i think we may benefit by having each of ya'll (Gal, Sus, Banab) contact your doctor, discuss it with them, and then come back here and compare notes ...
> so i'm calling these events "relapses" ... for now ...
>
> ... the thread continues to show no real signs of lex poop out as a consistent syndrome ... and where we have seen relapse, we have seen upping the dose as effective ... ... so far ... ...
>
> ... i know we must all have our fingers crossed for good luck here ... i do !
>
> well, those are my thoughts, as speculative as they are ... sorry i don't have anything better to offer ... ... i hate feeling like i'm throwing a starving dog a rubber bone !... sorry ...
>
> and now i'm starving ... (and in my own way, a dog too!) ... for your responses! ... ... as always ... from one and all ... post on posters!
>
> and drink water, Please ??
> do not let yourself get dehydrated ....
>
> TAKE CARE ! ! ! ! !!
> ~ jim

 

re: Gal, et al

Posted by lil' jimi on September 20, 2003, at 2:28:02

In reply to re: banab, Gal, sus, Mariposa (?): late(r) lex SEs » lil' jimi, posted by galkeepinon on September 20, 2003, at 1:02:19

hey gal,

least i could do for some of our favorite _support_ staff here ...
you deserve at least as good as you _give_ around here ... !!!
besides
i like the way you say nice things lady ! ... ... thanks !

try to get some rest .... and drink some more water !
... HA!

take care!
~ jim

p.s. i am not kidding about that water!
xxx,
~ j

 

PAXIL to LEXAPRO....improve sex?

Posted by Micah on September 20, 2003, at 6:05:41

In reply to Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2002, at 7:52:48

Hi! I've been taking Paxil for years with great success for relieving depression/anxiety, but with sexual side effects. My Dr. is switching me to Lexapro. She seems that Prozac was the "Grandfather" and that Lexapro is the "newborn" in this class of drugs. She says I should have on minor, passing, sexual side-effects, if any. What do you guys who have been on Lexapro say about the sex thing? Thanx!

 

I'm back, maybe on low dose of Lex, need advice!

Posted by theo on September 20, 2003, at 10:12:04

In reply to Re: Lexapro is a NO for me!!, posted by BLKVETTES on September 18, 2003, at 13:24:15

I read many things about many SSRI's and I know SE's vary from person to person. I'm now taking 150mg of Wellbutrin XL which is working great for drive and motivation for me but in talking to my pdoc, he suggested adding a low dose of an SSRI, 5mg Lexapro OR 12.5mg of Paxil CR to take that little edge of anxiety/constant worrying off. I need to know which combo has had best overall success, Wellbutrin-Lexapro combo OR Wellbutrin-Paxil combo. I'm leaning towards adding the 5mg of Lexapro first but when I tried Lex before by itself about four months ago I started at 10mg and it was six weeks of nausea, tiredness and stiff neck and I discontinued it, but with just 5mg added to the 150mg Wellbutrin XL, maybe these SE's wouldn't be so bothersome, NEED ADVICE AND INPUT PLEASE!! The only hesitation I have about adding the Paxil versus Lex would be the fear of having to go through withdrawal whenever I decided to stop using it. Add 5mg of Lex OR 12.5mg Paxil CR? I've tried benzo's and they make me feel great for a few days and then depressed, so benzo's are not an option for me to treat anxiety.

 

hello again friend, Theo

Posted by lil' jimi on September 20, 2003, at 11:36:36

In reply to I'm back, maybe on low dose of Lex, need advice!, posted by theo on September 20, 2003, at 10:12:04

hi,

>> NEED ADVICE AND INPUT PLEASE!! >>

busy right now ...
... but i'm better if i take time to think about it a little ...
later,
~ jim


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