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Posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 1:56:44
How would a BIPOLAR react if they were placed ONLY on an anti-dep WITHOUT a mood stabilizer? I KNOW they could become manic/hypo but
could the AD make them agitated/irritable/very angry without a mood stabilizer?
Posted by galkeepinon on August 25, 2003, at 2:53:28
In reply to Bipolar Question........, posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 1:56:44
Do you really want to go there ??? lol
It made me crazy:( Do you want me to share?
> How would a BIPOLAR react if they were placed ONLY on an anti-dep WITHOUT a mood stabilizer? I KNOW they could become manic/hypo but
> could the AD make them agitated/irritable/very angry without a mood stabilizer?
>
Posted by Caleb462 on August 25, 2003, at 3:34:14
In reply to Re: Bipolar Question........ » McPac, posted by galkeepinon on August 25, 2003, at 2:53:28
> > How would a BIPOLAR react if they were placed ONLY on an anti-dep WITHOUT a mood stabilizer? I KNOW they could become manic/hypo but
> > could the AD make them agitated/irritable/very angry without a mood stabilizer?Certainly sounds possible to me.
Posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 10:07:36
In reply to Re: Bipolar Question........ » McPac, posted by galkeepinon on August 25, 2003, at 2:53:28
"Do you really want to go there ??? lol
It made me crazy:( Do you want me to share?"PLEASE do gal!
Posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 10:19:44
In reply to Re: Bipolar Question........, posted by Caleb462 on August 25, 2003, at 3:34:14
gal/Caleb,
I've let my lithium level get down to downright PUNY levels, something like .016 or thereabouts, by taking only 300 mg/day of lithium (and I'm a bigger guy).......I havn't been feeling very good at all in many ways....I was blaming everything on the AD when perhaps I should have been blaming the PUNY lithium dose and level......the thing is that I DON"T get manic or "high" when taking very little lithium, rather my AD just doesn't work much and I feel depressed, irritable, agitated, etc......I HAVE had problems w/ some AD's but this time I think that my PUNY lith. level is the real culprit....I've always only needed to take less lith. than most bipolars but this time I think I decreased it TOO much.
Posted by bobby on August 25, 2003, at 10:48:42
In reply to Bipolar Question........, posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 1:56:44
Not a good idea. That was the precise thing that set me off into manicland---until that time, everything was o.k.
Posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 11:31:51
In reply to Re: Bipolar Question........ » McPac, posted by bobby on August 25, 2003, at 10:48:42
"That was the precise thing that set me off into manicland---until that time, everything was o.k."
>>>>>>>>>> Everything was okay up til then? Then why did you take the anti-dep. in the first place?
Also, when you say the AD (without the mood stabilizer in place, correct?) set you off into manicland---exactly what happened...how did you react? Thank you so much for sharing! Much appreciated!
Posted by galkeepinon on August 25, 2003, at 21:56:45
In reply to Bipolar Question........, posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 1:56:44
Hi McPac:-) Not much to tell except that I had first been on SSRI's because I was not diagnosed with bipolar until 1999, 4 years after the fact. I really went ballistic. I just had no feeling. I was all over the map. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't feel basically. I couldn't concentrate because my moods were mostly just blah. I felt confused. I didn't become angry though. I was just very irritable and agitated and just *surviving*
Does that make sense?> How would a BIPOLAR react if they were placed ONLY on an anti-dep WITHOUT a mood stabilizer? I KNOW they could become manic/hypo but
> could the AD make them agitated/irritable/very angry without a mood stabilizer?
>
Posted by galkeepinon on August 25, 2003, at 21:59:51
In reply to Re: Bipolar Question........, posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 10:19:44
hey McPac, I tried Lithium for the first time this summer and did very well on it for the whole 17 days I was on it. My levels remained at .08.
Have you increased your Lithium back up yet???
Hope to hear back.
Hang in there:-)
> gal/Caleb,
>
> I've let my lithium level get down to downright PUNY levels, something like .016 or thereabouts, by taking only 300 mg/day of lithium (and I'm a bigger guy).......I havn't been feeling very good at all in many ways....I was blaming everything on the AD when perhaps I should have been blaming the PUNY lithium dose and level......the thing is that I DON"T get manic or "high" when taking very little lithium, rather my AD just doesn't work much and I feel depressed, irritable, agitated, etc......I HAVE had problems w/ some AD's but this time I think that my PUNY lith. level is the real culprit....I've always only needed to take less lith. than most bipolars but this time I think I decreased it TOO much.
Posted by bobby on August 26, 2003, at 8:39:11
In reply to bobby, Re: Bipolar Question........, posted by McPac on August 25, 2003, at 11:31:51
Well, I started to take Zoloft on advice from my family Dr. I told him over and over that i couldn't sleep. I can only guess that he thought i was depressed and put me on the AD. That was bad medicine on his part(according to all of my Pdocs). Anyway, that's what pushed me over the edge. I could sue him but that's not my style.
Posted by McPac on August 26, 2003, at 14:01:19
In reply to Re: Bipolar Question........ » McPac, posted by galkeepinon on August 25, 2003, at 21:59:51
Thanks for your response gal!
Very much appreciated!
Still putting some things together...forming a game-plan.
Take care!
Posted by galkeepinon on August 26, 2003, at 17:05:50
In reply to gal, Re: Bipolar Question........, posted by McPac on August 26, 2003, at 14:01:19
Your very welcome!!!
~~best of luck with your game plan!!!!
:-)
> Thanks for your response gal!
> Very much appreciated!
> Still putting some things together...forming a game-plan.
> Take care!
Posted by McPac on August 26, 2003, at 21:35:33
In reply to Re: gal, Re: Bipolar Question........ » McPac, posted by galkeepinon on August 26, 2003, at 17:05:50
This is the end of the thread.
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