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Posted by tm on August 11, 2003, at 19:55:54
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by momma on August 11, 2003, at 19:28:47
Of course I'm not a doc., but maybe the dose was just too much. There are some people who take less than 10 and have good results. I take 20 myself and don't have the problems you have. Ask the doc if you can trim back. Did you stop cold turkey? That could be trouble itself.
Good Luck Tim.> I've been on Lexapro for the last 9 months and for 9 months I've been asleep. I feel as though I went to sleep skinny and woke up one day, fat to the tune of a 45 pound gain. I was sleeping at least 16 hours a day. I slept at work too. I had no motivation at all and my memory was gone.
> I would forget what I was talking about mid-sentence. This and more on just 10 mg at day.
> I was also experiencing a very irregular heart beat.
> I was put on Lexapro because I was having some problems coping with my anger and irritablity. I have always been easily irritated, but raising 3 teenage daughers with the usual problems became difficult to cope with. The medication helped.
> I decided to take myself off of Lexapro because coping was the only positive thing that was happening. I'm now wondering if quitting was a good idea. I'm having the worst withdrawl that I've ever had, (I've also taken Zoloft and Celexa).I'm very moody and emotional. I can't sleep to save my soul. I sweat like a pig and I'm always hot. I feel insecure and confused. I'm having strange brain spasms or flashes, all the time.
> I forgot to add that I work for my Father,(it ain't easy) and the lexapro was helping me cope with that too. I do A/R and collection work so you have some idea that it's not always the most pleasant kind of work.
> There are some pluses to taking LEXAPRO, but I'm having a very hard time deciding if it's all worth it. Please someone give me some advise.
> Thanks for any input.
>
Posted by vandy on August 11, 2003, at 21:05:19
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by momma on August 11, 2003, at 19:28:47
You don't mention anything else but the medicine. Did you do any other therapy? Remember, the medication is a lot like an umbrella in a rain storm. It's up and sheltering you from the rain. You're dry but you need to do other things beside being dry. Other therapy to get to the deep seated stuff that caused the depression/anxiety in the first place is really the only reason to take the medicine, in my humble opinion. I need to do that for my sanity. There's stuff in there. There's hidden anger in me. If I don't feret it out and expose it for what it is and deal with it, the medicine becomes a crutch. At the risk of two analogies making things unclear instead of enlightening, you can move with your crutch and the injury that makes it necessary gets time to heal but pt will make it better faster.
Posted by galkeepinon on August 11, 2003, at 23:39:36
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by momma on August 11, 2003, at 19:28:15
What is your diagnosis, may I ask? As far as sleep, have you tried Ambien or a benzo such as Klonopin? What about Neurontin? I started Lexapro about 10 days ago, and it has done wonders for me!! I was a depressed mess after going off Effexor. The only problem I have had is I am having insomnia-BAD.
Really, only YOU can determine if Lexapro is for you. It sounds as if it may have been doing some good-except maybe you needed to augment another medication with it to help you with your anger (which therapy may help also), irritabilty, and weight gain? May I suggest an AP? Seroquel did wonders for me in the past-really liked that medication, helped with the irritability and anger, but not the weight. Topamax is great and I have lost 25 pounds on it, so any weight I do gain, if any, on Lexapro, the Topamax is holding me somewhat steady.
Hope this helps and good luck! :-)
> I've been on Lexapro for the last 9 months and for 9 months I've been asleep. I feel as though I went to sleep skinny and woke up one day, fat to the tune of a 45 pound gain. I was sleeping at least 16 hours a day. I slept at work too. I had no motivation at all and my memory was gone.
> I would forget what I was talking about mid-sentence. This and more on just 10 mg at day.
> I was also experiencing a very irregular heart beat.
> I was put on Lexapro because I was having some problems coping with my anger and irritablity. I have always been easily irritated, but raising 3 teenage daughers with the usual problems became difficult to cope with. The medication helped.
> I decided to take myself off of Lexapro because coping was the only positive thing that was happening. I'm now wondering if quitting was a good idea. I'm having the worst withdrawl that I've ever had, (I've also taken Zoloft and Celexa).I'm very moody and emotional. I can't sleep to save my soul. I sweat like a pig and I'm always hot. I feel insecure and confused. I'm having strange brain spasms or flashes, all the time.
> I forgot to add that I work for my Father,(it ain't easy) and the lexapro was helping me cope with that too. I do A/R and collection work so you have some idea that it's not always the most pleasant kind of work.
> There are some pluses to taking LEXAPRO, but I'm having a very hard time deciding if it's all worth it. Please someone give me some advise.
> Thanks for any input.
>
Posted by Mike Oxsbig on August 12, 2003, at 16:07:12
In reply to re: Lexapro sexual side effects » guyndenver, posted by lil' jimi on August 2, 2003, at 5:35:15
Just reading through the thread and would like to add my comments. I started on Lexapro last October after seeing my family doc for ADD. He started me on Lex because of the anxiety and stress that ADD was causing me and because SSRI's seem to be the first course of action for adult ADD.
I can tell you that it has decreased my libido and has certainly caused some erectile disfunction. Thank god for Viagra.
> hi guyndenver,
>
> and my thanks for covering for us there, theump .. ... .. sorry i'm so late ...
>
> guy, i certainly understand your feelings ... frustration can have few sharper definitions ... past posters have shared the misery of the folly of viagra for anorgasmia, the inability to have orgasms ... ... to have endured this as long as you have is infuriating and hardly seems a relief for depression ... all of which you have stated very well.
>
> there have been a number of posts about sexual side effects (hardly "side" effects) on this lexapro thread ... many have been prompted by inquiries by me ... .. ... there would seem to me to be a concensus that lex has less sexual SEs than paxil or effexor ... which i would say is damning lex with faint praise due to paxil's and effexor's notorious reputations for sexual dysfunction of many types, notably decreased libido ... the posts to this thread have mentioned almost no lexapro related loss of libido (of those that have mentioned this, almost all were using other meds as well) and there have been no mentions of erectile dysfuntion.
>
> and all of this information is from my distillation of reading the entire lex thread which extends back more than a year ... not exactly science, especially with my memory for a data base! ... ...
> ... ... nevertheless, there are consistencies which would suggest some validity to these observations ...
>
> my wife was on paxil maybe 15 years ago now and we have regreted it everyday since ... we still struggle to recover her libido, but the greater tragedy was not knowing or ever being told about paxil side effects until very recently ...
>
> i have been on lexapro since march ... ... i had some intense SEs the first few days, but by 2 weeks they all went away ... ...
> ... ... one of my side effects was anorgasmia ... ... frankly it was frightening, but _within_ that first week i went from a total inabilty to have an orgasm or ejaculate, despite full libido and erectile function ... ... back to orgasmic functon.
> ... ... in total, this lasted less than a week ... ...
>
> actually, i have had to restrain myself posting about sexual function here because i am among a (small?) number of lex users who have had beneficial sexual experience since taking lex ... ... on a message board about meds for anxiety and depression, it isn't really considerate to be celebrating sexual benefits from the drugs you're taking too loudly ... ...
> ... ... since my anorgasmia went away my oragasms have changed for the better, but i am only giving details if requested, out of respect for the folks suffering who don't need to hear this.
>
> ... ... so guyndenver, that's my story ... ... after all the studies are done and all the posts posted, there will remain a wide range of possibilities of how lexapro could effect your anorgasmia .... and all of the probabilites won't mean a thing compared to your own, unique, risky experience of trying lexapro for yourself ...
> ... ... stories i tell don't matter compared to direct experience
>
> i have not taken any other ADs ... but i believe the SSRIs are different from each other, even celexa from lexapro by a great deal, i would say, and that each ssri effects the user differently, but individual variation of the users overwhelms any value from the statistics from studies ... stats can kind of guide you before you take, say, an ssri, but you're on your own after you do take an ssri ...
>
> ... ... except we have this forum here (Thanks, Dr. Bob!) to share our experiences, offer information, and to support each other ... ... i am indebted to the people who have posted here ... i have benefitted greatly. ... my thanks to every one.
>
> i wish you the best and i would hope you would keep posting here whether you take any meds or not ... ... it would be great to hear how you are doing ...
>
> ...and as my pal Wayne has taught me, we sign out with, his classic ...
> TAKE CARE !!!
> ~ jim
>
> p.s. your paxil SEs have endured so long since you quit paxil, i'd wonder if lexapro Could overcome such an established condition ... what does your doc say about your persistent anorgamia?
> ~ j
>
> > Thanks for your input. But, I think I will wait until Lex has been out for a bit longer. I read an interesting article I found on webmd about SSRI's and sexual side effects in general. It states that overall, in men, SSRI's create some sort of sexual side effect, whether it be E.D. or "delayed orgasm" in around 10% of those taking them. But, they are now finding that that 10% number isn't even close to the actual number of those effected. They blame the false findings in the clinical trials and post trials to the fact that most men are uncomfortable discussing these problems with their docs. This is not a direct quote, but the jist of the article. So, if on average, SSRI's in general show 10%, and Lexapro (according to their own documentation) shows 9%, I aint gonna hold my breath.
> >
> > My doc tried the viagra route with me and thus the other issue. I can now go for 4 hours straight and no orgasm. Might sound great to some, but, trust me, it is pure hell! If any company out there actually ever is successfull in figuring this one out, I hope I know someone on the inside because I will mortgage my home to buy their stock! It will out sell all other SSRI's out there.
> >
> > > Well, I'm a woman so I can't say for men but I have read on this message board that sexual side effects do dissipate on Lex. As for myself I would say it lasted a little over a week, almost would get there but couldn't, I think other posters here called it anorgasmic. Now things are fine if not better. I think Jim or Wayne have had good postings about this.
> > >
> > > If you type "sexual side effects" into the search for this site you should come up with past posts dealing with that subject.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps and hopefully someone else will speak up from the male point of view.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Really? And, you have direct experience with this? Because a whole year after Paxil CR and it's still there - the same with any anti-d I have ever been on. I have never taken any anti-d that the sexual side effects ever went away. I have not ever taken Lexapro, and based upon the info on their website, the sexual side effects don't go away in 9% of all men. And, they admit that this number is probably artifically low due to men's lack of willingness to discuss sexual issues with their docs. Can anyone else confirm this assurtion?
> > > >
> > > > > The sexual side effects go away after a week or so. How long have you been taking the Lex?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just don't get it. Can't anyone out there make an anti-d that doesn't mess with your sexlife? I have tried them all! I am currently on Paxil CR, 12.5mg, for treatment of anxiety. It helps, but it's not worth it any more! I finally got over most of the side effects (been on it for nearly a year) but there is one nagging side effect that I will not tolerate any more and that is the problem with the so-called "delayed ejaculation". I can have sex for hours and never ejaculate without a lot of "manual intervention" and at that, it is very unsatisfying. I was so excited when my doc told me about lexapro and about the reduced side effects. I decided to research it before I switched and I am glad I did. Sounds to me like there is absolutely no difference between lexapro, paxil, celexa - you name them. It is really sad that they have drugs that make you feel good about yourself, make you want to live your life to it's fullest, but takes so much away in the area of one of lifes most basic of activities. Sheesh! Can't somebody do something? I think I will be stopping all anti-d's and dealing with the anxiety on my own - at least then I will not have the added performance anxiety during sex!
> > > > > >
>
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 16:27:25
In reply to re: Lexapro sexual side effects, posted by Mike Oxsbig on August 12, 2003, at 16:07:12
hi Mike,
you posted:
> Just reading through the thread and would like to add my comments. I started on Lexapro last October after seeing my family doc for ADD. He started me on Lex because of the anxiety and stress that ADD was causing me and because SSRI's seem to be the first course of action for adult ADD.
>
> I can tell you that it has decreased my libido and has certainly caused some erectile disfunction. Thank god for Viagra.
>welcome to our lex thread here at pBabble ... ... i appreciate your contribution ... ... every differnent angle gives us greater depth of perspective ... ... thanks!
i have yet to experience any negative libido impact, but i've only been on 10 mg of lex for 5 months now ... .. ... i have been hoping this wouldn't happen because posts about decreased libido seem to me to be pretty rare here .. .... .. i'm still hoping ...
... how long were you on lexapro before you had this effect?
... have you experienced any relief from the anxiety and stress?
... has your ADD improved?
... how much lex do you take?
... best of luck with the ED ... ... glad the viagra is helping you ...
... hang in there!TAKE CARE !!
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 16:41:37
In reply to Re: Anyone switched to Lexapro? « ggrrl, posted by vandy on August 11, 2003, at 21:05:19
hi vandy,
you wrote:
> You don't mention anything else but the medicine. Did you do any other therapy? Remember, the medication is a lot like an umbrella in a rain storm. It's up and sheltering you from the rain. You're dry but you need to do other things beside being dry. Other therapy to get to the deep seated stuff that caused the depression/anxiety in the first place is really the only reason to take the medicine, in my humble opinion. I need to do that for my sanity. There's stuff in there. There's hidden anger in me. If I don't feret it out and expose it for what it is and deal with it, the medicine becomes a crutch. At the risk of two analogies making things unclear instead of enlightening, you can move with your crutch and the injury that makes it necessary gets time to heal but it will make it better faster.
>i just wanted to tell you that i liked your post a lot and i have shared it with friends over at pSocial ... it's great ... thanks!
oh, and i don't do any therapy ... ... ... yet.
TAKE CARE!!
~ jim
p.s. but i do use an umbrella! HA!
p.s.s. and i told my friends that i (get this!) use pBab as my pDoc (!!!) HA! ack!!
Posted by JCServant7 on August 12, 2003, at 18:08:32
In reply to re: lexapro's sexual and anxiety side effects, posted by aloe on August 7, 2003, at 9:28:37
Hi all -
Just started Lexapro 10 mg today, and it was weird to say the least! I got this terrible headache, my face felt flushed, I ran to the bathroom three times due to diarrhea, I was yawning all day and slept for three hours in the afternoon, I got his raging hardon that wouldn't go away for a few hours. Geez! I will stick it out for at least a week and see if some of this stuff resolves. I won't hand in the towel just yet. I am being weaned off Remeron after being on it for 6 years. I'm at 30 mg now and in a month will be dropped to 15 mg and then a month later, be done with it.
Thanks for any responses in advance!
Steve
Posted by Bela on August 12, 2003, at 18:18:26
In reply to re: Lexapro sexual side effects » Mike Oxsbig, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 16:27:25
I am curious as to whether anyone has had experience with the so-called "poop-out" syndrome---diminishment or cessation of effectiveness with ADs. If so, do you have any suggestions for remedies other than upping the dosage or switching to another AD? How successful were you with weaning yourself off the AD if you did try that method?
Bela
Posted by jlo820 on August 12, 2003, at 19:17:02
In reply to re:Poop-out Syndrome with ADs, posted by Bela on August 12, 2003, at 18:18:26
>> Do you have any suggestions for remedies other than upping the dosage or switching to another AD?
Those are the two main options. Perhaps before switching to something else, a doctor might try an augmentation strategy. For example, if you are on Effexor and it is not working or seems to have quit working, your doctor might trying adding Wellbutrin to see if it would help.
Posted by Doug in PA on August 12, 2003, at 19:48:45
In reply to Re: » Doug in PA, posted by jrbecker on August 10, 2003, at 12:54:31
I stopped in Vitamin world today and CVS and could not find, nor had they heard of methylcobalamin. They had Cyanocobalamin but not the above. Anyone got a brand name or vitamin source store for methylcobalamin???
Doug in PA
Posted by jrbecker on August 13, 2003, at 10:32:56
In reply to Re:B12 methylcobalamin where to buy???, posted by Doug in PA on August 12, 2003, at 19:48:45
I use the NOW brand. Do a search for it and see what comes up. There's tons of vendors you can order from online, but it might be worth it to talk through some of your questions with a health food store clerk. I thought you were going to try GNC, any luck there? How bout local herbal stores, any in your area?
Posted by jrbecker on August 13, 2003, at 10:36:52
In reply to Re:B12 methylcobalamin where to buy??? » Doug in PA, posted by jrbecker on August 13, 2003, at 10:32:56
I know this has been an adjunct treatment for Huntington's (and of course for bodybuilders) for a while now, but now it looks like it might have wider applications...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3145223.stm
Creatine 'boosts brain power'
The supplement is favoured by some athletes
The dietary supplement creatine - known to improve athletic performance - can also boost memory and intelligence, researchers claim.
Creatine is a natural compound found in muscle tissue, and has been popular with athletes looking for ways to increase fitness.However, experts say that it has a role in maintaining energy levels to the brain, and have the theory that taking more creatine might actually improve mental performance.
Researchers from the University of Sydney and Macquarie University, also in Australia, tested this by giving creatine supplements to 45 young adult volunteers.
Vegetarians were used for the tests, mainly because meat in the diet is in itself a source of creatine, and it would be difficult to gauge exactly how much an individual had consumed.
Creatine supplementation gave a significant measurable boost to brain power
Dr Caroline Rae, University of Sydney
The volunteers were split up and given either creatine or a "dummy" pill for periods of six weeks.Their ability to repeat back from memory long sequences of numbers was tested, and a general IQ test also given to the volunteers.
The researchers, led by Dr Caroline Rae found that the creatine supplements - at least in the short term - seemed to suggest a positive effect.
She said: "Both of these tests require fast brain power and the IQ test was conducted under time pressure.
"The results were clear with both our experimental groups and in both test scenarios.
"Creatine supplementation gave a significant measurable boost to brain power."
The researchers found that subjects' ability to remember long numbers improved from a number length of approximately seven digits, to an average of 8.5.
Dr Rae believes that the creatine increases the amount of energy available to the brain for computational tasks, improving general mental ability.
Health risks?
Little is known about the long-term effects of taking creatine - there are reports of effects on blood sugar balance.
The supplement is also notorious for creating an unpleasant odour in the vicinity of the taker.
There is no evidence that the mental boost would continue over time, even if the patient carried on taking creatine for months rather than weeks.
Dr Rae said: "Creatine supplementation may be of use to those requiring boosted mental performance in the short term - for example university students."
The study was published in the Royal Society journal Proceedings B.
Posted by jrbecker on August 13, 2003, at 10:43:26
In reply to News - Creatine boosts brain power, posted by jrbecker on August 13, 2003, at 10:36:52
I should have mentioned that as with everything, there can be a down side to too much creatine supplementation. For one, it might make you a little irritable -- something we're all prone to to begin with:
"Long term supplementation with creatine has yet to be declared truly safe as there have been reported effects on glucose homeostasis (the regulation of blood sugar levels) and potential subjects with a medical history of diabetes were excluded from the experiment. In addition taking the supplement can have some antisocial effects. "To be frank taking the supplement can make you a considerably less 'fragrant' person," says Dr. Rae. "However creatine supplementation may be of use to those requiring boosted mental performance in the short term - for example university students."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/08/030813070944.htm
> I know this has been an adjunct treatment for Huntington's (and of course for bodybuilders) for a while now, but now it looks like it might have wider applications...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3145223.stm
>
> Creatine 'boosts brain power'
>
> The supplement is favoured by some athletes
> The dietary supplement creatine - known to improve athletic performance - can also boost memory and intelligence, researchers claim.
> Creatine is a natural compound found in muscle tissue, and has been popular with athletes looking for ways to increase fitness.
>
> However, experts say that it has a role in maintaining energy levels to the brain, and have the theory that taking more creatine might actually improve mental performance.
>
> Researchers from the University of Sydney and Macquarie University, also in Australia, tested this by giving creatine supplements to 45 young adult volunteers.
>
> Vegetarians were used for the tests, mainly because meat in the diet is in itself a source of creatine, and it would be difficult to gauge exactly how much an individual had consumed.
>
> Creatine supplementation gave a significant measurable boost to brain power
>
> Dr Caroline Rae, University of Sydney
> The volunteers were split up and given either creatine or a "dummy" pill for periods of six weeks.
>
> Their ability to repeat back from memory long sequences of numbers was tested, and a general IQ test also given to the volunteers.
>
> The researchers, led by Dr Caroline Rae found that the creatine supplements - at least in the short term - seemed to suggest a positive effect.
>
> She said: "Both of these tests require fast brain power and the IQ test was conducted under time pressure.
>
> "The results were clear with both our experimental groups and in both test scenarios.
>
> "Creatine supplementation gave a significant measurable boost to brain power."
>
> The researchers found that subjects' ability to remember long numbers improved from a number length of approximately seven digits, to an average of 8.5.
>
> Dr Rae believes that the creatine increases the amount of energy available to the brain for computational tasks, improving general mental ability.
>
> Health risks?
>
> Little is known about the long-term effects of taking creatine - there are reports of effects on blood sugar balance.
>
> The supplement is also notorious for creating an unpleasant odour in the vicinity of the taker.
>
> There is no evidence that the mental boost would continue over time, even if the patient carried on taking creatine for months rather than weeks.
>
> Dr Rae said: "Creatine supplementation may be of use to those requiring boosted mental performance in the short term - for example university students."
>
> The study was published in the Royal Society journal Proceedings B.
>
>
>
Posted by mph-speedy on August 13, 2003, at 12:45:35
In reply to re: lexapro's sexual and anxiety side effects, posted by JCServant7 on August 12, 2003, at 18:08:32
> Hey Steve -
Hang in there..my first day was almost the same. Liquid bowel movements and dizziness..I called the Forest Labs hotline to see if the diarhea would resolve. It was gone the next day. By the third day I laughed out loud for the first time in months, and now about 6 weeks later, I have no side effects other than thirst, and my mood has steadily improved. It's been a lifesaver for me, however, now that I'm feeling relatively sane, I'm considering some kind of "talk therapy" to get at the bottom of some of my issues.Take care.
Speedy
Hi all -
>
> Just started Lexapro 10 mg today, and it was weird to say the least! I got this terrible headache, my face felt flushed, I ran to the bathroom three times due to diarrhea, I was yawning all day and slept for three hours in the afternoon, I got his raging hardon that wouldn't go away for a few hours. Geez! I will stick it out for at least a week and see if some of this stuff resolves. I won't hand in the towel just yet. I am being weaned off Remeron after being on it for 6 years. I'm at 30 mg now and in a month will be dropped to 15 mg and then a month later, be done with it.
>
> Thanks for any responses in advance!
>
> Steve
Posted by JCServant7 on August 13, 2003, at 15:17:18
In reply to re: lexapro's sexual and anxiety side effects, posted by mph-speedy on August 13, 2003, at 12:45:35
> > Hey Steve -
>
>
> Hang in there..my first day was almost the same. Liquid bowel movements and dizziness..I called the Forest Labs hotline to see if the diarhea would resolve. It was gone the next day. By the third day I laughed out loud for the first time in months, and now about 6 weeks later, I have no side effects other than thirst, and my mood has steadily improved. It's been a lifesaver for me, however, now that I'm feeling relatively sane, I'm considering some kind of "talk therapy" to get at the bottom of some of my issues.
>
> Take care.
>
> Speedy
>Speedy -
Thanks so much for responding.
Well, the effects are a little different today: I haven't had the massive bowel movements today like I had yesterday, and the sexual stuff seems to have passed. However, I still feel very tired and have to lie down in the afternoon. I feel somewhat light-headed, even now after about 7 hours after the dose. I lose my balance easier now, as well. I don't notice feeling any better as far as the depression is concerned, but that could be because of the Remeron still being onboard.
I will hang in there for awhile and give this Lexapro a reasonable chance. I guess we'll see what happens from here. Thanks again Speedy for your 'speedy' reply. Sorry for the pun. :-)
Steve
Posted by Oak on August 13, 2003, at 18:19:12
In reply to re: Lexapro sexual side effects » Mike Oxsbig, posted by lil' jimi on August 12, 2003, at 16:27:25
Posted by Jota on August 13, 2003, at 22:26:17
In reply to re:Poop-out Syndrome with ADs, posted by Bela on August 12, 2003, at 18:18:26
A top researcher at NIMH suggested the following regimen to prevent what he terms depression "breakthrough": Folate 2mg per day; T3 (Cytomel) 25ug per day. I'm also taking Lamictal, but this was both to achieve remission as well as to maintain it. Finally, I've added fish oil to get 1000mg of EPA (I can see no down side to taking this).
Jordan
Posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 23:00:42
In reply to re:Poop-out Syndrome with ADs, posted by Jota on August 13, 2003, at 22:26:17
hi Jordan,> A top researcher at NIMH suggested the following regimen to prevent what he terms depression "breakthrough": Folate 2mg per day; T3 (Cytomel) 25ug per day. I'm also taking Lamictal, but this was both to achieve remission as well as to maintain it. Finally, I've added fish oil to get 1000mg of EPA (I can see no down side to taking this).
>
> Jordan
thanks for such an informative post!
any details about the researcher, resources for this research?
no mention of DHA?
appreciate your contribution!
thanks!
~ jim
Posted by trucker on August 13, 2003, at 23:04:13
In reply to Re: ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION INFO, posted by BLKVETTES on July 29, 2003, at 22:52:17
> > Hey, that first link reminded me of that old question: "How can you tell a boy chromosome from a girl chromosome?"
> >
> > answer: "Easy, look in its genes!"
>
> My My the lexapro must have been very very good to you. But Im sure that all jokes should be redirected the psycho babble comedy link if there is one. Im sure JIM would know!!! HA!! TAKE CARE!!!
> WAYNE
>
>///////////////////////////////////////////////
they should have a comedy line here! that way folks like me don't get in troble!!
trucker
Posted by trucker on August 13, 2003, at 23:08:08
In reply to melatonin questions - jrbecker, posted by BekkaH on July 30, 2003, at 0:00:04
i am under the impression that melatonin is the same stuff as zoloft just not a garenteed dosage. that you shouldn't mix with out doc's knowledge.
some heath foods are dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.
trucker
Posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 23:29:20
In reply to Re: ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION INFO, posted by BLKVETTES on July 29, 2003, at 22:52:17
hey Wayne!
hi Vandy !
hi trucker, good to see you back!> > Hey, that first link reminded me of that old question: "How can you tell a boy chromosome from a girl chromosome?"
> >
> > answer: "Easy, look in its genes!"
>
> My My the lexapro must have been very very good to you. But Im sure that all jokes should be redirected the psycho babble comedy link if there is one. Im sure JIM would know!!! HA!! TAKE CARE!!!
> WAYNE
>
>... this right here is the closest to a
"psycho Comedy Babble"
as there is in pBabble land ...... and if there's any more laughs out there ... let us have them ... PLEASE? ... ... us depressed folks can always use them!
any Lexapro jokes ?"laughter is the best medicine ... ... "
so ... ...
LAUGH 'EM UP!!
~ jim
Posted by lil' jimi on August 14, 2003, at 0:31:50
In reply to re:Poop-out Syndrome with ADs, posted by Jota on August 13, 2003, at 22:26:17
see http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00083A00-318C-1F30-9AD380A84189F2D7
my thanks to JrBecker who posted this elsewhere ...
i'm repeating the link here for those who might miss it and i would appreciate hearing from folks who read itthanks,
~ jim
Posted by Bela on August 14, 2003, at 9:03:52
In reply to re:Poop-out Syndrome with ADs » Jota, posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 23:00:42
>
> hi Jordan,
>
> > A top researcher at NIMH suggested the following regimen to prevent what he terms depression "breakthrough": Folate 2mg per day; T3 (Cytomel) 25ug per day. I'm also taking Lamictal, but this was both to achieve remission as well as to maintain it. Finally, I've added fish oil to get 1000mg of EPA (I can see no down side to taking this).
> >
> > Jordan
>
>
> thanks for such an informative post!
> any details about the researcher, resources for this research?
> no mention of DHA?
> appreciate your contribution!
> thanks!
> ~ jim
>Jordan,
I, too, would like to add my thanks for your useful information. I am currently on my 4th AD, Lexapro,which is working (at least for now) but Celexa, Serzone, and Remeron have all pooped-out for me after several months of use for each of them. Currently, I am weaning myself from Remeron VERY slowly and still am having fairly significant withdrawal. I will try your suggestions with the Lexapro and see how it goes.
Bela
Posted by mph-speedy on August 14, 2003, at 10:04:32
In reply to Scientific American article, posted by lil' jimi on August 14, 2003, at 0:31:50
> see http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00083A00-318C-1F30-9AD380A84189F2D7
>
> my thanks to JrBecker who posted this elsewhere ...
> i'm repeating the link here for those who might miss it and i would appreciate hearing from folks who read it
>
> thanks,
> ~ jimVery good and enlightening article.
Speedy
Posted by Neens on August 14, 2003, at 12:14:19
In reply to re Psycho Comedy Babble » BLKVETTES, posted by lil' jimi on August 13, 2003, at 23:29:20
I HATE LEXAPRO
(sung to the tune of "I Love Rock n' Roll" by J. Hooker/A. Merrill)She saw it there in the insurance book
One of three meds covered by the HMO crooks
She said give it a try
The latest SSRI
An' I couldn't tell you why
But it had me, yeah me, cryin'I hate Lexapro
So call another scrip to the drugstore, baby
I hate Lexapro
So come an' write another scrip for meThe first time I took it I slept all day
That don't matter, she said
Side effects go awaySaid take it again, so I did an' then
Next I was breaking down
It wasn't me, not me
Next I was breaking down
And now it's me, yeah me, singin'I hate Lexapro
So call another scrip to the drugstore, baby
I hate Lexapro
So come an' write another scrip for meCan I please have a different pill, this one's keepin' me ill
Gotta be movin' on
Cause I hate this same old song
Yeah me, cryin'I hate Lexapro
So call another scrip to the drugstore, baby
I hate Lexapro
So come an' write another scrip for me
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