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Posted by indivmed on June 17, 2003, at 19:55:57
I see a new p-doc on Thursday and am curious as to whether or not I am on the wrong MAOI--I'm taking Parnate and it is working okay, but I'm having very distraught moments--experiencing very agitated depression. I suggested Nardil to my previous p-doc (who sucks) and she would only give me a script for Parnate. With the GABAergic effect of Nardil (I might need a mood-stabilizer since there is question that I am BPII), wouldn't that possibly take the place of a mood-stabilizer?
All I hear is that Parnate is stimulating, but my ass was not stimulated. I was laid-out and had to take Wellbutrin to help. Should I possibly look into Nardil and Provigil? Should I look into a dopamine agonist (what are names of a few?) instead of the Wellbutrin?
Again, I have major mood swings but while on a mood stabilizer or AP, I get more depressed. Lamictal worked but I had serious side effects and had to go off. Right now, I'm feeling very distraught, body dysmorphic issues, nothing to look forward to, major irritability and bitchiness, no motivation (complete opposite of last week), VERY restless--i'm bored out of my mind but don't want to do anything, feel that things will never change--I'll always be a mess. To me, it might classify as a mixed state. I've also been very aggressive with my interactions with other people (comments, etc.)
When I started the Parnate, it kicked in so fast and I'm thinking that the lethargy maybe came from the Restoril I was taking...should I consider a benzo such as Xanax or Klonopin (I took them with Wellbutrin a couple of years ago and they helped--probably kept the edge off the Wellbutrin).
I'm all over the map with meds...does anyone have any good ideas or anything to suggest? I really need some help (obviously).Thank you!
Rick
Posted by MysteryMonk on June 17, 2003, at 22:19:09
In reply to I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by indivmed on June 17, 2003, at 19:55:57
I hear Nardil will give you a fat ass.
Posted by indivmed on June 17, 2003, at 22:54:02
In reply to Re: I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by MysteryMonk on June 17, 2003, at 22:19:09
> I hear Nardil will give you a fat ass.
Yeah, I'm not so sure I want that. :) What do you take?
Posted by cosis on June 18, 2003, at 0:08:36
In reply to Re: I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by indivmed on June 17, 2003, at 22:54:02
> > I hear Nardil will give you a fat ass.
>
> Yeah, I'm not so sure I want that. :) What do you take?Nardil will contribute to craving sweet foods in my case which in turn would make you gain wait. But if your very disciplined(spelling?) in my case I am keeping off the wait now by eating very healthy and exercising....
Nardil is the best drug ever IMO
Nick
Posted by ace on June 18, 2003, at 0:15:23
In reply to I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by indivmed on June 17, 2003, at 19:55:57
Absolutley I do have something to suggest- Nardil!
If Parnate is not giving you 80%+ relief forget it. Try Nardil.
Good luck man,
Ace.
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 18, 2003, at 0:32:07
In reply to Re: I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by MysteryMonk on June 17, 2003, at 22:19:09
> I hear Nardil will give you a fat ass.
I'd like people to feel welcome here, so please don't use language that could offend them, thanks.
Bob
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Posted by MysteryMonk on June 18, 2003, at 1:39:45
In reply to Re: I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by indivmed on June 17, 2003, at 22:54:02
> > I hear Nardil will give you a fat ass.
>
> Yeah, I'm not so sure I want that. :) What do you take?Parnate, but I still have a fat ass.
Posted by stjames on June 18, 2003, at 9:23:48
In reply to Re: I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by MysteryMonk on June 18, 2003, at 1:39:45
> > > I hear Nardil will give you a fat ass.
> >
> > Yeah, I'm not so sure I want that. :) What do you take?
>
> Parnate, but I still have a fat ass.Sucks to be you !
Posted by indivmed on June 18, 2003, at 11:14:25
In reply to Re: I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday, posted by stjames on June 18, 2003, at 9:23:48
Thank you for your help! Are there any bonuses to taking Nardil over Parnate, however (such as effects on GABA so I can maybe get off all of this mood-stabilizer bullshit)--or is Parnate the most "stimulating"? Yeah, I find it stimulating when I'm in on "some other shit" with it. Sorry for the language...What about selegeline or maybe the addition of a dopamine agonist? I've noticed that I'm VERY irritable and bitter at everything--to the point that I can't even be in public without telling some woman to "fuck off" because she's annoyed that I don't happen to know where the library is on the Emory campus (i'm in the Chem Building all day, why would I necessarily know where the library is???).
I'm wondering if this has something to do with being hypomanic (in a dysphoric way) on the parnate and wellbutrin, or if i'm just in a bad mood over the past couple of days. I was on top of the world during the 1st week and now, I'm ready to just kill someone (not really, just those "thoughts" that some poor soul is going to do something that really pisses me off and I'm going to unleash about 6 years of pent-up mental illness on her.
I see my p-doc tomorrow and I would like to go in there and say, "hey I'm taking this and this and this" so there won't be a lot of discussion as to "what to try"...I've TRIED EVERYTHING...and I'm coming across p-docs that are all fucking anal about what they will and won't prescribe. If this sounds like I'm being manipulating, well, maybe because it is :)
rick
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 19, 2003, at 9:45:00
In reply to Re: I AM DESPERATE! Need MAOI HELP Before Thursday! , posted by MysteryMonk on June 18, 2003, at 1:39:45
> Parnate, but I still have a fat ass.
I just asked you not to use language that could offend others, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
Bob
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