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Posted by linkadge on May 27, 2003, at 19:12:05
I've been taking a high dose of Vitamin E, in order to reduce chronic imflammation assoctiated with depression. I am feeling much more normal today. I have been taking 1600 IU for the last week. I can feel the effect in my brain, my thoughts clear and emotion becomes less complex.
I think I am really on to something here. Vitamin E, like St. Johns Wort can lower Interleuken-6 to a third of pretreatment values.
Will keep you posted.
Linkadge
Posted by samplemethod on May 27, 2003, at 23:20:19
In reply to vitamin E is doing something, posted by linkadge on May 27, 2003, at 19:12:05
As a matter of fact, when I have taken vit e intermittently, I believe it has acted nicely upon my brain as you describe "my thoughts clear and emotion becomes less complex."...
now i wasnt too sure about it, cos it was like after taking 500iu over 2 days, but i made a connection and never really went back to check it out.... if there are scientific reports to back it up anywhere I think i would get into it again....
anyone have any good info on vit e ?
goddamn, i am turning into a supp slut!!
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> I've been taking a high dose of Vitamin E, in order to reduce chronic imflammation assoctiated with depression. I am feeling much more normal today. I have been taking 1600 IU for the last week. I can feel the effect in my brain, my thoughts clear and emotion becomes less complex.
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> I think I am really on to something here. Vitamin E, like St. Johns Wort can lower Interleuken-6 to a third of pretreatment values.
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> Will keep you posted.
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> Linkadge
Posted by noa on May 28, 2003, at 16:34:53
In reply to vitamin E is doing something, posted by linkadge on May 27, 2003, at 19:12:05
Interesting. I'm curious about the depression related inflammation? Can you describe more?
Thanks.
Posted by linkadge on May 28, 2003, at 20:09:47
In reply to Re: vitamin E is doing something » linkadge, posted by noa on May 28, 2003, at 16:34:53
Check out this website
http://www.biopsychiatry.com/immunesystem/index.html
I have been on this board for almost three years now, and have never found a supplement so helpful.About two months ago I was taking 1200mg Lithium and 10 mg of Celexa.
I was lowering the Lithium and wanted to add something else for neuroprotection. It started out at just 400 IU per day, and I was noticing I was feeling better after the Vit E dose.
I am now taking 1600 IU and things have been changing *dramatically*. I want to be cautious and scientific about this because I have been duped by the placebo effect before.
To make a long story short I am taking only 5 mg of Celexa, and no lithium at present.I feel more normal than I have in 3 years.
This is a high dose of Vitamin E. But this much has been shown to dramatically cut interleuken-6 and other autoinflamitory responces.
I am being methodical about this, and will keep you posted.
Linkadge
Posted by noa on May 29, 2003, at 16:42:39
In reply to depression and inflammation , posted by linkadge on May 28, 2003, at 20:09:47
Thanks for the link. Interesting article.
But have you noticed any specific signs of inflammation that clued you into the possibility of inflammation being a cause/contributor of depression for you?
It has crossed my mind, too. I have hypothyroidism, which is likely caused by autoimmune process. But I do not have high temp, in fact my temp tends to run on the low side (which could be related to hypothyroidism, too).
I take fish oil and the omega 3 fatty acids are purportedly anti-inflammatory. The fish oil contains a bit of the Vitamin E but I hadn't considered taking larger amounts of E. It is a thought.
Posted by linkadge on May 29, 2003, at 20:38:25
In reply to Re: depression and inflammation , posted by noa on May 29, 2003, at 16:42:39
One doesn't neccessarily have to display any other signs of inflammation to be influenced by it. Most people with arthritis have no other symptoms.
I really cannot explain why this is working like it does. Something about the vitamin E feels like it's protecting my brain.
I've never walked away from a stressful situation feeling so normal.
The effect it has is remarkable, I can explain it like a shrinking sensation, visually everthing 'shrinks' my hands my body, my position in the world. The only other thing that has given me this sensation is lorazepam.
All of a sudden I am starting to say (in the face of a stressful situation) 'ah, these are the days of our lives'
Linkadge
Posted by Mama Bear on May 31, 2003, at 18:45:11
In reply to vitamin E is doing something, posted by linkadge on May 27, 2003, at 19:12:05
Are you on any antipsychotics or neuroleptics as they are formally known? If so your brain could be feeling better on vitamin e because meds like this have a side effect called Tardive Dyskinsea. One of the syptoms among many is an inner agitation. Tardive dyskinesia is a movement disorder that my daughter who is only 5 has gotten from the use of respirdal. I also suggest that you get youself some Omega vitamins. Omega 3-6-9 is the best but any omega will help you. Lethecin is another vitamin you should be taking. These meds do help your frotal lobe of your brain to recover from some of the neurological toxity that you may be experiencing. Let me know if you try any or all of these vitamins and what you think of this. It is helping our daughter's brain to recover somewhat. Mama Bear
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