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Posted by Caleb462 on May 10, 2003, at 2:48:42
I remember you stating that you had ordered and used this stuff with good results.
I'm considering trying it out, once I get the funds, but I have a few questions if you don't mind answering.
1)Are the effects intoxicating or merely relaxing?
I don't want to be intoxicated, I just want relief from anxiety and an improvement in mood.2)How sedating is it? I'm looking for something that will ease anxiety without making me groogy. I tried L-theanine for this, and got a placebo effect at first, but have come to the conclusion that this stuff just doesn't work. I don't understand the good press surrounding L-theanine at all.
3)Is the anxiotylic effect similiar to alcohol's?
I ask because I dislike the effects of alcohol, even at low doses - so I'm hesitant to order something that will produce similiar effects. I've read that the effects are comparable to benzos, but I can't relate since I've never taken a benzo (well 5 mg valium once that didn't do a thing).4)How long do the effects last?
5)Is there a mood-enhancing/anti-depressant effect involved at all - or it mainly anxiotylic and neutral towards mood?
Thanks a lot.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on May 10, 2003, at 11:30:14
In reply to Ame Sans Vie - a question on tranquili-g, posted by Caleb462 on May 10, 2003, at 2:48:42
1)Are the effects intoxicating or merely relaxing?
I don't want to be intoxicated, I just want relief from anxiety and an improvement in mood.I've found the effects to be nothing like GHB, really. Just very anxiolytic with some mild muscle relaxation.
2)How sedating is it? I'm looking for something that will ease anxiety without making me groogy. I tried L-theanine for this, and got a placebo effect at first, but have come to the conclusion that this stuff just doesn't work. I don't understand the good press surrounding L-theanine at all.
It wasn't sedating at all for me. Actually, it was a bit energizing. And I hear you about the l-theanine... I've even tried very large doses of that stuff with no results.
3)Is the anxiotylic effect similiar to alcohol's?
I ask because I dislike the effects of alcohol, even at low doses - so I'm hesitant to order something that will produce similiar effects. I've read that the effects are comparable to benzos, but I can't relate since I've never taken a benzo (well 5 mg valium once that didn't do a thing).I might compare the effects to a less-potent benzo, like Librium, but it definitely was not like alcohol in any way.
4)How long do the effects last?
5-6 hours for most people... GHB only lasts 3-4 hours.
5)Is there a mood-enhancing/anti-depressant effect involved at all - or it mainly anxiotylic and neutral towards mood?
There's a mild mood-enhancing quality to it, but nothing profound. More than anything, it seems to be the anxiolytic/energizing effect that helps boost your mood a little.
Posted by Caleb462 on May 11, 2003, at 1:01:53
In reply to Re: Ame Sans Vie - a question on tranquili-g, posted by Ame Sans Vie on May 10, 2003, at 11:30:14
Any cognitive impairment? Also... what seems to be the best dose for you?
Thanks a ton.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on May 11, 2003, at 6:42:46
In reply to Two more questions..., posted by Caleb462 on May 11, 2003, at 1:01:53
There's definitely no cognitive impairment or emotional numbing... in fact, when I take GVL, I tend to get a lot more work done in a smaller amount of time. The best dose I've found for daytime tranquilization is one tablespoon, and two tablespoons for bedtime sedation *MIXED WITH ORANGE JUICE*. Had to emphasize that last part, because the stuff tastes absolutely horrible. Something like nail-polish remover; it stings and burns your tongue as you take it in. But just mix it with 4oz. orange juice per tablespoon of GVL and you can barely taste it.
Oh, by the way, any dose above two tablespoons will not provide any additional effects.
Posted by Caleb462 on May 11, 2003, at 22:26:31
In reply to Re: Two more questions..., posted by Ame Sans Vie on May 11, 2003, at 6:42:46
Does tolerance develop?
Again, thanks a bunch.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on May 11, 2003, at 23:39:04
In reply to Heh... just ONE more, posted by Caleb462 on May 11, 2003, at 22:26:31
Not that I'm aware of. Well, maybe with constant chronic use, but surely not if used on an as-needed basis.
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