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Posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 6:24:43
Ok, here it is.........
I keep ending up in arguments with my family because f my bad moods, they see it as Im always miserable and In a bad mood (which I am), But, that Im like that out of choice (which I am not)
Being in a bad mood and feeling miserable are something different from being depressed right? So why am I always like this? I just want to be happy Like everyone else, and not be so short tempered, I have tried really I have but I just have a lack of interest in everything, and maybe Im thinking that picking fights is the only way to feel emotions? I dont know?
Does anyone know what could be going on? Or have been like this? PLEASE?
Posted by Ritch on May 3, 2003, at 11:02:48
In reply to Bad moods, posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 6:24:43
> Ok, here it is.........
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> I keep ending up in arguments with my family because f my bad moods, they see it as Im always miserable and In a bad mood (which I am), But, that Im like that out of choice (which I am not)
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> Being in a bad mood and feeling miserable are something different from being depressed right? So why am I always like this? I just want to be happy Like everyone else, and not be so short tempered, I have tried really I have but I just have a lack of interest in everything, and maybe Im thinking that picking fights is the only way to feel emotions? I dont know?
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> Does anyone know what could be going on? Or have been like this? PLEASE?
Irritability is very common with depression. When I'm experiencing dysphoric manic-mixed type symptoms it is like I care TOO much about everything (everything becomes a major big deal and everybody is screwing everything up). When I'm depressed I experience something very similar to what you describe.. a feeling of apathy about everything and everybody, and a tendency to be snappy and hostile. I don't feel that I'm trying to do it to provide stimulation, it is more like I don't have any *tolerance* for other people caring and being concerned with things that I am currently totally disinterested in and it makes me mad. I don't know if that makes any sense or not, but that is what it seems like. Are you being treated for bipolar/unipolar depression?
Posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 13:30:42
In reply to Re: Bad moods » daizy, posted by Ritch on May 3, 2003, at 11:02:48
> > Ok, here it is.........
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> > I keep ending up in arguments with my family because f my bad moods, they see it as Im always miserable and In a bad mood (which I am), But, that Im like that out of choice (which I am not)
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> > Being in a bad mood and feeling miserable are something different from being depressed right? So why am I always like this? I just want to be happy Like everyone else, and not be so short tempered, I have tried really I have but I just have a lack of interest in everything, and maybe Im thinking that picking fights is the only way to feel emotions? I dont know?
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> > Does anyone know what could be going on? Or have been like this? PLEASE?
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> Irritability is very common with depression. When I'm experiencing dysphoric manic-mixed type symptoms it is like I care TOO much about everything (everything becomes a major big deal and everybody is screwing everything up). When I'm depressed I experience something very similar to what you describe.. a feeling of apathy about everything and everybody, and a tendency to be snappy and hostile. I don't feel that I'm trying to do it to provide stimulation, it is more like I don't have any *tolerance* for other people caring and being concerned with things that I am currently totally disinterested in and it makes me mad. I don't know if that makes any sense or not, but that is what it seems like. Are you being treated for bipolar/unipolar depression?No I have anxiety, But have always kinda been known for my moods, I dont particularly feel in a mood its just other peoples reactions to me, I always get the 'your so moody'. I just feel very uninterested and glum!
Posted by charlie12 on May 3, 2003, at 16:22:15
In reply to Re: Bad moods, posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 13:30:42
<< I just have a lack of interest in everything >><< I just feel very uninterested and glum! >>
daizy, that definitely DOES sound like depression!
Posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 16:49:37
In reply to Re: Bad moods » daizy, posted by charlie12 on May 3, 2003, at 16:22:15
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> << I just have a lack of interest in everything >>
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> << I just feel very uninterested and glum! >>
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> daizy, that definitely DOES sound like depression!
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Yeah I think that Im starting to become depressed, this anxiety is making me like this, but Ive been seen by a doctor who said Im definitely not clinically depessed, yet Im on antidepressants, does this make any sense?I also think that these AD's might be causing it, silly I know, but If I had just had an anti anxiety med to begin with I doubt I would be feeling as Glum as I am now, as the anxiety was my major problem.
Why isnt there a specific anti-anxiety medication that doesnt play around with your emotions like AD's do? If I wasnt depressed then why did I need something that is blunting my emotions???
I fail to see how antidepresants can make someone happy? Do they, or do they just stop you from being suicidal, but also stop you from being happy? stop you from feeling anything at all? make you numb? Or is it just my medication that is making me feel like this?
I would like to hear something positive that AD's have done?
Posted by charlie12 on May 3, 2003, at 19:15:30
In reply to Re: MED QUESTION ???, posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 16:49:37
daizy, exactly which medication(s) are you now taking, and for how long have you been taking them?also, what kind of specific anxieties are you experiencing?
also, is the doctor advising you a full psychiatrist?
not everyone gets the same maximum benefit from them, but antidepressants have definitely saved many peoples' lives.
and yes, antidepressants have made people happy again. I have seen personal testimonies of people going from hospitalization to enjoying life again -
I remember a gal telling me about how antidepressants helped her enjoy life and feel simple things again like the warm touch of the sun on her skin, and she had been hospitalized for depression. In fact, I think that she told me that she had previously NEVER known what sunshine felt like her whole life!
however, it does seem that many people have to try several different AD medications before finding the one that best suits one's own brain chemistry, and that can be a real ugly & drawn-out experience to endure.
regards,
Charlie
Posted by Mikey_C on May 3, 2003, at 21:44:47
In reply to Re: MED QUESTION ???, posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 16:49:37
Hey Daizy, how you doing babe??? Just happened to be browsing PB, bored... came across your message, so yeah, figured I would answer it.Daizy, I've never felt so "normal" before in my life than the way I've been feeling for the past 2 months. No severe ups, no severe downs, just kind of in the middle... where I guess most people that don't have personality disorders exist.
What have I been taking to get to this point?
1mg of Klonopin every night to help me sleep and to calm me down (Benzo)
10mg of Seroquel every night before bed to help me sleep and to calm me down (Anti-Psychotic)
375mg of Depakote per day... 125 mg in the morning, 250 at night... (Mood Stabilizer)
20mg of Celexa every night (Anti-Depressant)
You know how I was before... now I'm out every day babe... I had a job, would have kept it if the lay-offs in the high-tech industry weren't so tough around here.... I have my own car now and have been driving around the city every day for like the past 2 weeks... I've got a gf whom I haven't had a real arguement with in about a month... I'm still taking some College Level Courses to improve my Computer Skills and my head is working perfectly, and I'm sleeping like a baby and getting the rest that I need...
So... why question what a medication does and just give them a chance, see if they work, and get yourself back on your feet? We were pretty much at the same level once untill I realized that "I" was the only one that could make my situation any better... so I did it... now you just need to find the courage inside of yourself to do the same thing
lol... I still can't get over the numerous different meds I need to take to make myself feel right... but hey... I wouldn't go back to how I was for anything in the world.....
Posted by Caleb462 on May 5, 2003, at 1:31:13
In reply to Re: MED QUESTION ???, posted by daizy on May 3, 2003, at 16:49:37
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> > daizy, that definitely DOES sound like depression!
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> Yeah I think that Im starting to become depressed, this anxiety is making me like this, but Ive been seen by a doctor who said Im definitely not clinically depessed, yet Im on antidepressants, does this make any sense?Well, it's quite possible that, although you weren't clinically depressed at the time you last saw a doctor, that you are now. And yes it does make sense that you are on anti-depressants, as many anti-depressants also work as anxiotylics (anti-anxiety agents).
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> I also think that these AD's might be causing it, silly I know, but If I had just had an anti anxiety med to begin with I doubt I would be feeling as Glum as I am now, as the anxiety was my major problem.Not silly at all, actually. Some anti-depressants can induce a state of apathy, disinterest, low motivation, loss of pleasure, detachment, etc. due to inhibition of dopamine release. Dopamine is a neurotransmitter associated with motivation, energy, reward, pleasure, etc.
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> Why isnt there a specific anti-anxiety medication that doesnt play around with your emotions like AD's do? If I wasnt depressed then why did I need something that is blunting my emotions???
>You have to understand that anxiety and depression are very similiar conditions, even if on the outside they look totally different. There are some anti-anxiety medications that may not alter you quite as much as an SSRI - I assume that is what you are taking? You may want to consider a benzo (Klonopin, forinstance).
> I fail to see how antidepresants can make someone happy? Do they, or do they just stop you from being suicidal, but also stop you from being happy? stop you from feeling anything at all? make you numb? Or is it just my medication that is making me feel like this?
Anti-depressants tend to calm the body and mind's "startle response"... they often block out impulsivity and overreactivty. This effect is useful for both depression and anxiety. Unfortunately, in many people, this can lead to a feeling of being "numb" or "blunted". This usually happens with the SSRIs. In fact, the SSRIs have been described as thymoanesthetics (emotion desensitizers). This can be a good thing, or a bad thing... depending on the individual and his/her situation.
> I would like to hear something positive that AD's have done?ADs have saved countless people's lives.
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