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Posted by ptc on April 29, 2003, at 18:24:13
In reply to Re: New to Lexapro » brandij, posted by DC on April 29, 2003, at 10:49:08
I just started Lexapro as well. I had been taking prozac, but because of some panic attacks, I started the Lexapro. I also had tried Wellbutrin a couple of times and each time I had horrible horrible panic attacks within the first two weeks. Has this happened to anyone else?
I myself am taking Lexapro for anxiety attacks. If I didn't "have" to work or "have" to walk the dogs, I probably wouldn't leave my house. But, quite honestly
> once the weekends roll around I still don't pretty much want to leave the house due to being to nervous or "scared" to deal with other people. But, like you said
> my family seems to making the calls lately LOL. I guess they see more of a difference that I do myself. I am also on 300mg of Wellbutrin daily. I am 33 and just
> now realizing that I might have a "problem" LOL. But, I have been hearing PMS in quite a few postings. Is anyone else taking Lexapro for anxiety attacks like
> myself? Cause my energy level hasn't really risen. So confused LOL.
Posted by lil' jimi on April 29, 2003, at 19:03:52
In reply to Re: New to Lexapro, posted by ptc on April 29, 2003, at 18:24:13
hi ptc,
thanks for posting.
i had a couple of panic attacks when i started lexapro ....
but all of my counter-therapeutic effects went away in a few weeks.
take care,
~ jim
Posted by blkvettes on April 29, 2003, at 21:15:10
In reply to Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . , posted by leeran on April 29, 2003, at 15:14:08
> Strange. This is my eighth day back on Lexapro and I notice this odd tension in my left pectoral muscle. I thought it was stress until I remembered someone mentioning jaw clenching and I thought it might be related.
>
> It's certainly not enough for me to give up the medication. If it happens on both sides I get a natural breast lift out of the deal :-)
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> I had this yesterday and today . . .
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> Has anyone else experienced this?
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>Just neck pain here that went away. I get other muscle pains but I believe from anxiety. I will pray for your natural breast lift.
Posted by leeran on April 29, 2003, at 21:38:25
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . , posted by blkvettes on April 29, 2003, at 21:15:10
Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. When I've changed my user i.d. to "Lefty" you'll know it's happened.
On a more serious note, I looked up "pectoral spasms" and Lexapro today and couldn't find anything, but I did find a few mentions of muscle spasms.
I'm sure that this, too, shall pass.
I'm glad to see you're still posting here!
Posted by lil' jimi on April 29, 2003, at 21:39:42
In reply to Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . , posted by leeran on April 29, 2003, at 15:14:08
> Strange. This is my eighth day back on Lexapro and I notice this odd tension in my left pectoral muscle. I thought it was stress until I remembered someone mentioning jaw clenching and I thought it might be related.
>
> It's certainly not enough for me to give up the medication. If it happens on both sides I get a natural breast lift out of the deal :-)
>
> I had this yesterday and today . . .
>
> Has anyone else experienced this?hi lee,
i remembered this series from last december (which i read in march) ... anyway maybe this relates?
seehttp://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20021210/msgs/131634.html
~ jim
Posted by blkvettes on April 29, 2003, at 23:00:03
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . , posted by leeran on April 29, 2003, at 21:38:25
> Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. When I've changed my user i.d. to "Lefty" you'll know it's happened.
>
> On a more serious note, I looked up "pectoral spasms" and Lexapro today and couldn't find anything, but I did find a few mentions of muscle spasms.
>
> I'm sure that this, too, shall pass.
>
> I'm glad to see you're still posting here!
Hi there, my life is not perfect and even if it gets that way I will always post here. To help the new lexapro users anyway I can. I am sure you will be fine and the spasm will go away in time. good luck to you on lexapro!!!!!!!
Posted by leeran on April 29, 2003, at 23:38:56
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . » leeran, posted by lil' jimi on April 29, 2003, at 21:39:42
hi jimi -
thanks for the link. i wonder if it's the same? this is actually the pectoral muscle, and even the stomach wall muscle (rectus abdominus?).
by the way - i owe you the name of a book and a website. that post got away from me on the other board before i got a chance to answer.
i can give you the website here - but for some reason i'm always uncomfortable giving the book link. maybe because i found it so controversial?
if you want you, can email me at ltawest at earthlink dot net. i'm about ready to shut down that email address but it's still active right now.
the other website is http://rense.com/
thanks jimi!
i appreciate it!
lee
p.s. i forget - how many mg. of lexapro do you take? i'm taking 5 mgs.
Posted by lil' jimi on April 30, 2003, at 1:09:46
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . ., posted by leeran on April 29, 2003, at 23:38:56
hi lee ~
i took 10mg on march 6 and went to 5mg on march 7 and for the next 4 weeks, and now i'm on 10mg .... my gp said she wanted me to try Effexor (sp?) and i said i'd try 10mg of lexapro instead .... it's okay .... 5 was good, 10's not bad ... nothing beyond the wand o' magic anyway.
controversy can be a good thing ... just recently i happen to go to that website .... i found this there: http://www.rense.com/general37/dark.htm
but i couldn't find another source .... and i found that odd...
think i should post its contents here?peace and 'hi' to hubby,
~ jimi
Posted by DC on April 30, 2003, at 7:43:34
In reply to Re: New to Lexapro, posted by JLGMMG on April 29, 2003, at 17:37:50
I am on 20mg of Lexapro and 300mg of Wellbutrin daily. I take the Lexapro and 150mg of Wellbrutrin in the morning before work around 6:30am to 7am and the other 150mg of Wellbutrin in the evening between 6pm & 8pm. But the Lexapro is the only thing I take for the anxiety. I do plan on finding out a few things at my next appointment. My sister-in-law who is a pharmacist thinks maybe I might be bi-polar. I do know that certain medications are not good to take if you are bi-polar. I have heard that Paxil shouldn't be taken by those that are bi-polar and would explain why I disliked Paxil so much. Between the wacked out dreams and the TERRIBLE night sweats when trying to quit taking it.
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I have been taking Lexapro for anxiety attacks and have been on it for about a month now. I had a few major ones the first week of taking the medication, but now things are a little more settled. Do have some weird side effects, and trying to deal with those. I have seen no different in energy level. What time of day do you take it? I also take xanax .25 a day. What does the other medication do for you in regards to anxiety? I could be curious to know...
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> > I myself am taking Lexapro for anxiety attacks. If I didn't "have" to work or "have" to walk the dogs, I probably wouldn't leave my house. But, quite honestly
> > once the weekends roll around I still don't pretty much want to leave the house due to being to nervous or "scared" to deal with other people. But, like you said
> > my family seems to making the calls lately LOL. I guess they see more of a difference that I do myself. I am also on 300mg of Wellbutrin daily. I am 33 and just
> > now realizing that I might have a "problem" LOL. But, I have been hearing PMS in quite a few postings. Is anyone else taking Lexapro for anxiety attacks like
> > myself? Cause my energy level hasn't really risen. So confused LOL.
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>
Posted by Dysfunk on April 30, 2003, at 14:41:08
In reply to Re: Lexapro side effects switching, posted by blkvettes on April 29, 2003, at 11:25:17
I know it doesn't make sense, that is why I posted my message. In the past posted about other side effects and low and behold, others are experiencing it too. I can't find any other reason why this is happening, and I know that these drugs do effect the bowels.
I also decreased my sweating, but the lump in my throat that I initially had has returned. Again it could be something else, like allergies. It is very hard to tell.
Posted by Dysfunk on April 30, 2003, at 14:47:33
In reply to Re: Lexapro side effects switching, posted by Luziluna on April 29, 2003, at 13:50:30
I have not had yeast infections, but keep in mind that dry mouth is a side effect, and any other mucus membranes can be effected. How can I put this so that I don't offend anyone....If you are dry and having sex, you could be getting irritated, which can be creating yeast infections. Try extra lubricant!
;^)
Posted by Dysfunk on April 30, 2003, at 14:50:32
In reply to Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . , posted by leeran on April 29, 2003, at 15:14:08
Pecs, breasts...same thing right? I had breast tenderness when I first started the medication.
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Posted by brandij on April 30, 2003, at 14:59:20
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . » leeran, posted by Dysfunk on April 30, 2003, at 14:50:32
I had breast tenderness as well, i didn't connect it to the Lexapro at the time, but now tht you mention it, it makes sense, i actually thought i was pregnant for a short time from the irregular cycle and tenderness put together. I love knowing i am not the only one with these weird things going on...this is a great resource.
Posted by leeran on April 30, 2003, at 15:02:43
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . » leeran, posted by Dysfunk on April 30, 2003, at 14:50:32
Well, I guess I was differentiating the actual fleshy part of the breast from the muscular structure between the top of the breast and the area near the arm pit.
LOLOL!!!! Oh boy, I suppose if gravity hadn't taken a bit of a toll those areas would be in closer proximity! That's pitiful (for me).
I used to have breast tenderness with Prozac, but that's because both breasts seemed swollen on that medication. This is different.
This is way too much information. Sorry! Just hearing that it goes away is the important thing.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience!
Posted by Dysfunk on April 30, 2003, at 15:07:41
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . » Dysfunk, posted by leeran on April 30, 2003, at 15:02:43
Don't be embarrassed-that is what this board is all about. I wasn't sure if you were male or female, so I wanted to differentiate the location. I guess since I am muscular it feels like the same place. But, I definitely feel more of a bloat in my breasts.
Posted by leeran on April 30, 2003, at 16:38:03
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . » leeran, posted by Dysfunk on April 30, 2003, at 15:07:41
Well, I've bared my soul in other ways on these boards so it's starting to seem like old hat :)
I don't have a bloated feeling (in the breasts). At least not yet - not like I did on Prozac (which was always a factor in deciding to go off of Prozac).
I guess the pectoral muscles are divided into two areas. I'm feeling this in the region of the pectoralis minor, which comes up from the ribs and attaches to something called the coracoid process. Who knows, it might be completely unrelated and I'm just attributing it to Lexapro.
Thanks for your input!
Posted by dr. dave on May 1, 2003, at 7:40:29
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO NEWSFLASH, posted by vandy on April 27, 2003, at 10:11:16
> > Authorities in the UK have ruled that the claim that Lexapro is more effective than Celexa in treating depression is not justified. This claim can no longer be made as there is not seen to be adequate data supporting it.
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>
> "Authorities" = "They" (As in 'They say!') Do you have a link to a specific citation?Here's the story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,946370,00.html
There should be a story in the British Medical Journal soon too.
Posted by brandij on May 1, 2003, at 10:45:33
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO NEWSFLASH » vandy, posted by dr. dave on May 1, 2003, at 7:40:29
> > > Authorities in the UK have ruled that the claim that Lexapro is more effective than Celexa in treating depression is not justified. This claim can no longer be made as there is not seen to be adequate data supporting it.
> > >
> >
> > "Authorities" = "They" (As in 'They say!') Do you have a link to a specific citation?
>
> Here's the story
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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,946370,00.html
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> There should be a story in the British Medical Journal soon too.
>
You know what, i read the article, and all it is saying is the advertisment may be misleading, it can't tell me the difference i have felt is false. I know my body, i know my reactions to Lex are much better, with fewer hassles, than when on Celexa. It says nothing of the effectivness being the same or less than Celexa, in fact, it supports that Lex is more effective. I know Lex is more expensive, we all do, but the difference in our lives is worth it to most of us. The price will go down, just as Celexa did after a while on the market. New products always cost more at first, then a generic is developed and it becomes more affordable. This is not a scientific study by a medical authority, in fact it is not a authority at all, just a report on the advertisment. I don't base my life on advertisment rights and wrongs, but facts and research and my individual experience.
Posted by vandy on May 1, 2003, at 12:30:37
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO NEWSFLASH, posted by brandij on May 1, 2003, at 10:45:33
> > > > Authorities in the UK have ruled that the claim that Lexapro is more effective than Celexa in treating depression is not justified. This claim can no longer be made as there is not seen to be adequate data supporting it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > "Authorities" = "They" (As in 'They say!') Do you have a link to a specific citation?
> >
> > Here's the story
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,946370,00.html
> >
> > There should be a story in the British Medical Journal soon too.
> >
> You know what, i read the article, and all it is saying is the advertisment may be misleading, it can't tell me the difference i have felt is false. I know my body, i know my reactions to Lex are much better, with fewer hassles, than when on Celexa. It says nothing of the effectivness being the same or less than Celexa, in fact, it supports that Lex is more effective. I know Lex is more expensive, we all do, but the difference in our lives is worth it to most of us. The price will go down, just as Celexa did after a while on the market. New products always cost more at first, then a generic is developed and it becomes more affordable. This is not a scientific study by a medical authority, in fact it is not a authority at all, just a report on the advertisment. I don't base my life on advertisment rights and wrongs, but facts and research and my individual experience.
>
On reading the article I don't see it as being either for or against the merits of Lexapro. The company that developed the drug made a "Better than" claim. The law prohibits a "Better than" claim whether it's true or false.The nice thing about the internet is the increased skepticism it arrouses. Since I've seen so many posts that represent partial truths I've started looking for the same type of junk in the standard media. Guess what? It's everywhere. And everyone has an agenda.
Posted by Dysfunk on May 1, 2003, at 17:52:07
In reply to Re: Lexapro, not jaw clenching but . . . » Dysfunk, posted by leeran on April 30, 2003, at 16:38:03
I will have to check a model of the human body to see if we are speaking of the same thing. Either way, he has gone away.
Posted by Dysfunk on May 1, 2003, at 17:55:12
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO NEWSFLASH, posted by brandij on May 1, 2003, at 10:45:33
Just a comment on pricing of meds: my pharmacist says that until this drug is officially approved by my insurance company, it will be a higher price. I guess that is how all new drugs are. Once they become more commonly subscribed, the price drops. But then, there is always a new one that dr's are pushed by their pharmaceutical reps to subscribe for their patients. It is a business.
Posted by Dysfunk on May 1, 2003, at 17:58:25
In reply to Re: Lexapro and Bruising » DC, posted by Dysfunk on April 29, 2003, at 9:50:32
Last night, I accidentily took Lexapro instead of my allergy medication. They look alike and I wasn't concentrating I guess. Well, that meant that in 12 hrs. I had 40 mgs. vs the usual 20 mgs. I delayed this morning's dosage, and I am happy to report that nothing majorly bad happened to me. I was sweating more and my stomach felt queazy, but I am ok. Phew.
Posted by dr. dave on May 2, 2003, at 5:56:24
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO NEWSFLASH, posted by brandij on May 1, 2003, at 10:45:33
> > > > Authorities in the UK have ruled that the claim that Lexapro is more effective than Celexa in treating depression is not justified. This claim can no longer be made as there is not seen to be adequate data supporting it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > "Authorities" = "They" (As in 'They say!') Do you have a link to a specific citation?
> >
> > Here's the story
> >
> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,946370,00.html
> >
> > There should be a story in the British Medical Journal soon too.
> >
> You know what, i read the article, and all it is saying is the advertisment may be misleading, it can't tell me the difference i have felt is false. I know my body, i know my reactions to Lex are much better, with fewer hassles, than when on Celexa. It says nothing of the effectivness being the same or less than Celexa, in fact, it supports that Lex is more effective. I know Lex is more expensive, we all do, but the difference in our lives is worth it to most of us. The price will go down, just as Celexa did after a while on the market. New products always cost more at first, then a generic is developed and it becomes more affordable. This is not a scientific study by a medical authority, in fact it is not a authority at all, just a report on the advertisment. I don't base my life on advertisment rights and wrongs, but facts and research and my individual experience.
>This was a ruling by an official body after extensive review of the scientific data. If you want reviews by medical authorities, here are several
http://www.ukmi.nhs.uk/NewMaterial/html/docs/escitalopram.pdf
http://www.htbs.co.uk/smc/press/index.asp?did=1148
The US Department of Defense Pharmacoeconomic Center and the Canadian Co-ordinating Office for Health Technology Assessment have both concluded there is no compelling evidence Lexapro is more effective than Celexa.
For individuals, obviously some will feel better on one than the other - but the idea Lexapro is GENERALLY more effective than Celexa is generally agreed, in independent scientific reviews of the data, to be wrong.
Posted by dr. dave on May 2, 2003, at 6:04:06
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO NEWSFLASH, posted by vandy on May 1, 2003, at 12:30:37
> > > > > Authorities in the UK have ruled that the claim that Lexapro is more effective than Celexa in treating depression is not justified. This claim can no longer be made as there is not seen to be adequate data supporting it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Authorities" = "They" (As in 'They say!') Do you have a link to a specific citation?
> > >
> > > Here's the story
> > >
> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,946370,00.html
> > >
> > > There should be a story in the British Medical Journal soon too.
> > >
> > You know what, i read the article, and all it is saying is the advertisment may be misleading, it can't tell me the difference i have felt is false. I know my body, i know my reactions to Lex are much better, with fewer hassles, than when on Celexa. It says nothing of the effectivness being the same or less than Celexa, in fact, it supports that Lex is more effective. I know Lex is more expensive, we all do, but the difference in our lives is worth it to most of us. The price will go down, just as Celexa did after a while on the market. New products always cost more at first, then a generic is developed and it becomes more affordable. This is not a scientific study by a medical authority, in fact it is not a authority at all, just a report on the advertisment. I don't base my life on advertisment rights and wrongs, but facts and research and my individual experience.
> >
>
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> On reading the article I don't see it as being either for or against the merits of Lexapro. The company that developed the drug made a "Better than" claim. The law prohibits a "Better than" claim whether it's true or false.
>
> The nice thing about the internet is the increased skepticism it arrouses. Since I've seen so many posts that represent partial truths I've started looking for the same type of junk in the standard media. Guess what? It's everywhere. And everyone has an agenda.
>The regulations in the UK allow 'better than' claims as long as you can show that they're true. The problem here was that the data don't support the claim.
Clearly Lexapro is a good antidepressant but thousands of people are being convinced it's significantly better than Celexa when the evidence just isn't there. I just don't like people being misled.
Posted by DC on May 2, 2003, at 6:41:31
In reply to Re: LEXAPRO NEWSFLASH » brandij, posted by Dysfunk on May 1, 2003, at 17:55:12
> Just a comment on pricing of meds: my pharmacist says that until this drug is officially approved by my insurance company, it will be a higher price. I guess that is how all new drugs are. Once they become more commonly subscribed, the price drops. But then, there is always a new one that dr's are pushed by their pharmaceutical reps to subscribe for their patients. It is a business.
I am not sure what the normal price is for Lexapro, but I can tell you that my insurance does cover the prescription and I pay $25.00 per refill.
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