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Posted by Mikey_C on March 1, 2003, at 22:10:23
Alright, I've had 2 Doctors now recommend that I get started on this medication... they both thought that I would do absolutely amazing on it, so now I'm giving it a shot... I started February 18th on 50mg per night... then increased it on the 26th to 75mg per night... now I'm supposed to increase it again on Monday to 100mg per night...My problem... it's making me into a complete zombie... I've always been sensitive to just about any type of medication, but this stuff has me sitting around like a vegetable all day. When I do try to get up and do things, I'm so dizzy that I usually just give up and lie back down. I'm also having hot and cold flashes.... like I'll be too hot at one minute and need to take some clothes off... then about 15 minutes later I'm so freaking cold that I need to put a few extra layers on...
It's only been this way now though for about 4 days... so what do you think? Is it just a start-up side effect that will go away in time... hopefully soon... or is this because I'm on too high of a dosage to start off with... or is this medication just really not agreeing with me? Anybody experience anything similar to this when they started up on it?
Thanks in advance for any answers...
Posted by KrissyP on March 1, 2003, at 23:04:30
In reply to Any Seroquel Users Out There???, posted by Mikey_C on March 1, 2003, at 22:10:23
Hi Mikey! Yes, I have had what you speak of. I started on Seroquel in Nov 1999, and have been on it ever since. I started at 50mg at night then 100mg. For the first few months I felt like a zombie big time, and even now if I take the Seroquel with my Klonopin and Lamictal too late in the evening-I wake up and am a zombie to the world-endangering myself and others if I go driving somewhere. It has helped me with sleep-but has made me gain some weight-an hour after taking it my appetite soars, but I sleep. It sounds as if your body is just getting used to the med. Have you schizophrenia may I ask? or been diagnosed with psychotic features? Why have you begun Seroquel? Hang in there! Keep us posted:)
Kristen********************************************
Alright, I've had 2 Doctors now recommend that I get started on this medication... they both thought that I would do absolutely amazing on it, so now I'm giving it a shot... I started February 18th on 50mg per night... then increased it on the 26th to 75mg per night... now I'm supposed to increase it again on Monday to 100mg per night...
My problem... it's making me into a complete zombie... I've always been sensitive to just about any type of medication, but this stuff has me sitting around like a vegetable all day. When I do try to get up and do things, I'm so dizzy that I usually just give up and lie back down. I'm also having hot and cold flashes.... like I'll be too hot at one minute and need to take some clothes off... then about 15 minutes later I'm so freaking cold that I need to put a few extra layers on...
It's only been this way now though for about 4 days... so what do you think? Is it just a start-up side effect that will go away in time... hopefully soon... or is this because I'm on too high of a dosage to start off with... or is this medication just really not agreeing with me? Anybody experience anything similar to this when they started up on it?
Thanks in advance for any answers...
Posted by Mikey_C on March 2, 2003, at 3:04:05
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There??? » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 1, 2003, at 23:04:30
Hey Krissy, Wow... seems like we have pretty much the exact same medication combination. I've been taking Klonopin every night now for about 8 months and my Doctors want to start me on Lamictal as well as soon as I get used to the Seroquel.I'm not Schizoprenic, that much I'm absolutely positive about, but apparently my Doctors think I'm Psychotic? I've never became extremely delusional or homicidal though.... I do however suffer from pretty severe depression, anxiety, and panic attack problems... seem to have quite a bit of post-traumatic stress thrown in as well, plus, except for the last 8 months, have abused just about every drug and alcohol that I could get my hands on for the majority of my life thus far except for using needles (I'm only 24 presently).
I went through the cycle of anti-depressants already (Zoloft, Paxil, Effexor XR, and Celexa) with some pretty horrible side effects...
Zoloft & Paxil made me into a zombie... kind of like I how I feel right now.... but I stayed with the two of them for about 2 1/2 months each and both had me almost unable to do anything.. complete vegetable...
Effexor XR seemed to hold me as stable as anything I've tried thus far, except, however, I was asked to stop it for a little while for some reason or another and the withdrawal was horrendous...
And Celexa made it impossible for me to have an orgasm as far as 3 months into taking it and made me feel like I was P'ing out razor blades after...
The only other medication that I've tried, which has really helped with about half of my problems, is Depakote... However, my depression has really become out of hand again and both of my Doctors seem to think that the Depakote could be a huge factor in that...
However, both have now agreed on the fact that my combination should include Seroquel, Lamictal (Lamotragene sp?), and Klonopin (Clonazepam). So I'm trying to get used to having to take those...
You said that this zombie-like effect lasts for a few months though? THAT I'm not looking forward too.... could be some big problems for me... I've been taking my Seroquel very early into the evening (10PM) every night, but still... The whole next day I'm just about too messed up to do anything. Pretty much just been sleeping or completely relaxing in front of the TV set. Can't really do anything that requires concentration (driving would be absolutely out of the question at the moment) and anything that requires physical effort has to be done VERY carefully because I seem to have acquired two left feet and the rest of my body seems to be moving as is underwater or something...
So the whole "few months" thing really isn't sitting too well... but I'm kind of running out of options here... I know I can't be functioning to as low of a degree as I am currently for a few months... but if I were to stop taking these meds, then I'd be in just about as bad of shape... Kind of stuck between a rock and a hard spot :-(
Posted by KrissyP on March 2, 2003, at 13:31:57
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There??? » KrissyP, posted by Mikey_C on March 2, 2003, at 3:04:05
Hey there,
Yes it sounds as if we are being treated by the same medicine route. I am not a doctor-but can you ask your doctor about lowering the dose of Seroquel? I found that when I did, the "zombie-like" feeling disappeared. I don't want to preach to you buddy, but my dad got into some heavy duty drug and alcohol use and his brain is fried at 68 years old-I watched him go through it-but hey-I can't dis because my drug of choice is nicotine and sweets. I hope you aren't doing too many drugs,you're 24-you got a great life waiting for ya! ANYWAY.....(see, I told you I didn't want to preach) ;)I hear ya about Celexa-tried that AD for about a year-no weight gain- but NO sex drive either-I had to go off it. If Effexor-XR made you feel stable-why in the heck were you asked to be taken off? Did you ask? Please be proactive-I went off Effexor-XR and the withdrawals were Hell. So I started back on it a few days ago because my depression was starting up again, really bad. I actually started taking Efrexor now at night-last night being the first- I woke up with no anxiety, and not depressed -nothing else had changed. I have energy and any "zombie" feeling I get from the Klonopin and Seroquel-which isn't a lot-is not there when I wake up-I love it! Really, as far as your dose of Seroquel, either 1) your body is just getting used to it, 2) you are on too high of a dose, or 3) Maybe the drug's side effects for YOU are worse than the benefits. These things are worth trying to figure out for YOU:)
Please be patient, wonders may cease to amaze you, and I wish you the best!
Kristen--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I do however suffer from pretty severe depression, anxiety, and panic attack problems... seem to have quite a bit of post-traumatic stress thrown in as well, plus, except for the last 8 months, have abused just about every drug and alcohol that I could get my hands on for the majority of my life thus far except for using needles (I'm only 24 presently).
I went through the cycle of anti-depressants already (Zoloft, Paxil, Effexor XR, and Celexa) with some pretty horrible side effects...
Effexor XR seemed to hold me as stable as anything I've tried thus far, except, however, I was asked to stop it for a little while for some reason or another and the withdrawal was horrendous...
And Celexa made it impossible for me to have an orgasm as far as 3 months into taking it and made me feel like I was P'ing out razor blades after...
However, both have now agreed on the fact that my combination should include Seroquel, Lamictal (Lamotragene sp?), and Klonopin (Clonazepam). So I'm trying to get used to having to take those...
You said that this zombie-like effect lasts for a few months though? THAT I'm not looking forward too.... could be some big problems for me... I've been taking my Seroquel very early into the evening (10PM) every night, but still... The whole next day I'm just about too messed up to do anything. Pretty much just been sleeping or completely relaxing in front of the TV set. Can't really do anything that requires concentration (driving would be absolutely out of the question at the moment) and anything that requires physical effort has to be done VERY carefully because I seem to have acquired two left feet and the rest of my body seems to be moving as is underwater or something...
So the whole "few months" thing really isn't sitting too well... but I'm kind of running out of options here... I know I can't be functioning to as low of a degree as I am currently for a few months... but if I were to stop taking these meds, then I'd be in just about as bad of shape... Kind of stuck between a rock and a hard spot :-(
Posted by Mikey_C on March 2, 2003, at 15:55:30
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There??? » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 2, 2003, at 13:31:57
Well, today I feel slightly less zombie-like than I have during the past 4 days, so I'm guessing that my body was just starting to get used to the drug. It's weird that I can have such a high tolerance to just about any "illegal" drug that seems to harm me, but when it comes to medication that seems to help me... Even a small dose really effects me.
I would honestly break down laughing if my PDoc compared Clonazepam to Heroin though.... I never found it to be that bad... and I've always used Clonazepam sort of the way that you would use Aspirin or Tylenol to treat a headache... It's great for short-term relief, but in our cases... well, in mine anyways, I KNOW I can't remain stable on just clonazepam so I just use a little bit of it... Only on my worst days do I need to go up to 1.5mg.. and usually it's just 1mg before bed. I've never gone as far as using 2mg in a single day... don't think I'll ever need to get that far into it... and both PDocs that I've talked to say that if I keep using it like I'm using it, there won't be any problem in my using it long-term.
My PDocs have said that Seroquel should help me with my depression and anxiety... is that not the case? Yours came back? I'm thinking like whoah... Clonazepam, Effexor, Seroquel, AND Lamictal... that would basically bankrupt me... I wouldn't be able to feed myself lol...
Oh, and trust me... the minute that my PDoc told me that a nice portion of what is going on is from past drug usage, already mixed in with the horrible genes that got passed on to me... I quit doing everything for good. Well *fingers crossed* HOPEFULLY for good.... I'm doing alright so far... It kind of sucks though cuz my drug of choice has always been marijuana and I can't say that I'm not dying to smoke a nice spliff right now :(
Oh well... I'm already going to do whatever it takes to get me back on my feet and give me the power to take my life back and set everything straight
Posted by KrissyP on March 2, 2003, at 17:55:36
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There???, posted by Mikey_C on March 2, 2003, at 15:55:30
Good! This sounds wonderful-I am so proud of you:)I hope the non-zombie-like feeling continues for you. I started taking my Effexor at night last night and I didn't wake up depressed-amazing why I wonder? really weird.....I am laughing here....I almost broke down after my doc compared Heroin to Klonopin too-even after she said it twice-sheesh. What you wrote here got me thinking, I am going to try to wean myself down on the Klonopin like my doc suggested. It's nice to see you, personally, can get by on 1mg-I don't think I've even tried and in MY opinion-the less the better.
I do hear you here, I am wondering Effexor, Seroquel, Lamictal, and Klonopin-I take all low doses so I guess I'm ok. It's weird how just a little chemical can help. Thanks for your reply, and DON'T go smoke a spliff:-/-post to me and I'm here for ya.
KristenI would honestly break down laughing if my PDoc compared Clonazepam to Heroin though.... I never found it to be that bad... and I've always used Clonazepam sort of the way that you would use Aspirin or Tylenol to treat a headache... It's great for short-term relief, but in our cases... well, in mine anyways, I KNOW I can't remain stable on just clonazepam so I just use a little bit of it... Only on my worst days do I need to go up to 1.5mg.. and usually it's just 1mg before bed. I've never gone as far as using 2mg in a single day... don't think I'll ever need to get that far into it... and both PDocs that I've talked to say that if I keep using it like I'm using it, there won't be any problem in my using it long-term. My PDocs have said that Seroquel should help me with my depression and anxiety... is that not the case? Yours came back? I'm thinking like whoah... Clonazepam, Effexor, Seroquel, AND Lamictal... that would basically bankrupt me... I wouldn't be able to feed myself lol...
Oh, and trust me... the minute that my PDoc told me that a nice portion of what is going on is from past drug usage, already mixed in with the horrible genes that got passed on to me... I quit doing everything for good. Well *fingers crossed* HOPEFULLY for good.... I'm doing alright so far... It kind of sucks though cuz my drug of choice has always been marijuana and I can't say that I'm not dying to smoke a nice spliff right now :(
Oh well... I'm already going to do whatever it takes to get me back on my feet and give me the power to take my life back and set everything straight
Posted by Mikey_C on March 2, 2003, at 18:58:17
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There??? » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 2, 2003, at 17:55:36
With Clonazepam though, like I said, I use it almost like you would use a Tylenol for a headache. Every night I take 1mg to help me sleep and so far 1mg has been all that I've ever really needed to pull that off. It's been 8 months for me at 1mg every night and don't find a need to increase it at all. Before that 8 month period though, I had 6 months off of Clonazepam, and before that I used it almost every night for about 2 years because I was having panic attacks and severe insomnia at night. It was like my body just could NOT shut down. Anyways, when I decided to take those 6 months off of Clonazepam, I initiated it cold turkey. And no matter what you've heard, Clonazepam withdrawal is not that bad. In fact, when I compare it to any of the SSRIs I've taken, it's pretty much a joke.The point about Clonazepam though is that you should not be using it as the "only" medication to keep you from slipping... It is definitely only an add-on, and I would have to think that yes, if I was using it as my primary medication, I would have to continually increase my dosage and push it to the point where addiction is a real problem.
But... What would you call the dependency that you get on the other drugs that you're taking, such as Effexor or Seroquel. Obviously when you stop taking those your body goes through complete Hell. Coming from somebody that has used a lot of street drugs in the past, withdrawal symptoms that bad are definitely a form of addiction. So, therefore, just about any medication you're taking is addictive. So why is all this negativity put on Benzos in the first place? I say if it works reasonably well, and it isn't posing any serious danger to your health... and well.. like in our cases, is actually helping our mental and physical health... then why worry about the fact that it's addicting? If we start worrying too much about addiction then we shouldn't be on any medication whatsoever and just get used to the fact that we are slowly going nuts...
As far as that spliff goes... I'm still hungry for it... See, I like to test out my willpower quite a bit because if you're going to be taking any of these medications then you have to be STRONG... So, when I decided to quit I took the last of my stash and rolled it up into one average sized joint... and it's been sitting there on my dresser now for about two weeks... I think in time I'll be able to look at it and not want it anymore... that's when I know that I'm safe to quit for life.
Anyways, I'll definitely keep you updated on how I'm doing. Today the Seroquel side effects are definitely dying down. I used about .25 of Clonazepam today during the afternoon because after I took some last night I actually felt quite a bit better. It's weird... I had the most F'd up dreams last night... I actually woke myself up yelling at somebody in my dreams... Weird... oh, and another thing... don't want to gross you out.... but did you have a hard time taking a dump for the first little bit that you were on Seroquel? Is that a side effect? The last two days have been kind of rough for me in that regard....
And two more days before I'm supposed to bump up to 100mg... I'm hoping that this does what my Doctors have said it's going to do and controls my anxiety and depression... I'm still on Depakote at the moment but I'm supposed to come off of that and use Lamotragene instead....
Oh well, enough, I'm just rambling now...
Posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 2:08:58
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There???, posted by Mikey_C on March 2, 2003, at 18:58:17
LOL I can't remember if I had constipation AKA not being able to take a dump LOL I think so. Hey, thanks for replying. YES, keep me updated. I am going to try to go down to 1mg of Klonopin. But get this, like your joint, I used the Klonopin tonight because i let what a friend said to me piss me off. I really should be asleep right now, but I am up, and took 2mg Klonopin tonight when i could have taken 1mg. *crying*--(not really) -just frustrated that I give away my power so much. Oh well.
you make an excellent point when you say-"What would you call the dependency that you get on the other drugs that you're taking, such as Effexor or Seroquel. Obviously when you stop taking those your body goes through complete Hell." I agree- and I should bring it up to my doctor-but then again, AGAIN I can't-afraid she'll "fire" me-oh I hate this.........
AND yes! I had the weird dreams you ask of here when I first started Seroquel-they went away. I had a weird one the first night i went back on lamictal-not to gross YOU out-but it was about my dog just taking a dump and going and going and going... now that's weird. Atleast it wasn't a nightmare huh?!
Be strong, if you can't, send me the joint-I need one right about now-JOKE. (well kinda) I don't do that stuff-only when I actually have an opportunity, dang now you got me craving it. No.......I wish you the best with the "herb" and thanks for your nice reply. I have the same questions you have.
Please keep me updated, all the best,
Kristen:-)But... What would you call the dependency that you get on the other drugs that you're taking, such as Effexor or Seroquel. Obviously when you stop taking those your body goes through complete Hell. Coming from somebody that has used a lot of street drugs in the past, withdrawal symptoms that bad are definitely a form of addiction. So, therefore, just about any medication you're taking is addictive. So why is all this negativity put on Benzos in the first place? I say if it works reasonably well, and it isn't posing any serious danger to your health... and well.. like in our cases, is actually helping our mental and physical health... then why worry about the fact that it's addicting? If we start worrying too much about addiction then we shouldn't be on any medication whatsoever and just get used to the fact that we are slowly going nuts...
As far as that spliff goes... I'm still hungry for it... See, I like to test out my willpower quite a bit because if you're going to be taking any of these medications then you have to be STRONG... So, when I decided to quit I took the last of my stash and rolled it up into one average sized joint... and it's been sitting there on my dresser now for about two weeks... I think in time I'll be able to look at it and not want it anymore... that's when I know that I'm safe to quit for life.
Anyways, I'll definitely keep you updated on how I'm doing. Today the Seroquel side effects are definitely dying down. I used about .25 of Clonazepam today during the afternoon because after I took some last night I actually felt quite a bit better. It's weird... I had the most F'd up dreams last night... I actually woke myself up yelling at somebody in my dreams... Weird... oh, and another thing... don't want to gross you out.... but did you have a hard time taking a dump for the first little bit that you were on Seroquel? Is that a side effect? The last two days have been kind of rough for me in that regard....
And two more days before I'm supposed to bump up to 100mg... I'm hoping that this does what my Doctors have said it's going to do and controls my anxiety and depression... I'm still on Depakote at the moment but I'm supposed to come off of that and use Lamotragene instead....
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> Oh well, enough, I'm just rambling now...
Posted by Mikey_C on March 3, 2003, at 8:56:32
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There??? » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 2:08:58
Krissy, from what you said below, shouldn't a higher dose of Seroquel, Lamictal, OR Effexor provide a long-term solution for that problem? Clonazepam in that regard is sort of an "after the fact" solution. Like you need to be P'd off enough first that you need help settling down so you take it to settle you down. But why should you be getting that P'd off in the first place? You should have more strength than that over your temper and things that upset you. If that's what you're taking the Clonazepam for, I would ask my Doctor to see what other drug I could increase to take that symptom away.
I went back to taking 1mg of Clonazepam last night, and honestly, I think I should drop it down to maybe .75mg or something... was pretty rough waking up this morning and my sleep was DEAD... I think if I had to wake up to use the bathroom or something I would have been out of luck... would have just wet the bed... lol... Even after all this time on Clonazepam (2 years, 8 months) I can't envision what it would be like to take 2mg of it. Probably strong enough to knock out a horse lol....
Hey, one other interesting tidbit that I found out last week... you know Trazadone? How it's used as a sleeping pill AND as a form of an Anti-Depressant? In order for it to be effective as an anti-depressant you generally need to take about 300-400mg per day of it. Now, would that be actually working as an anti-depressant or would it just be enough to knock you into a completely dreamless sleep so that you completely forget that you're even depressed?
Anyways, today seems good so far.... I'll let you know later on tonight how things went. I think my body's getting used to the 75mg of Seroquel now... going to increase it to 100mg tonight just to get that final dose increase out of the way.
I used the Klonopin tonight because i let what a friend said to me piss me off. I really should be asleep right now, but I am up, and took 2mg Klonopin tonight when i could have taken 1mg. *crying*--(not really) -just frustrated that I give away my power so much. Oh well.
Posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 15:57:43
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There???, posted by Mikey_C on March 3, 2003, at 8:56:32
Hiya-I hear ya here:-) When you say, "Like you need to be P'd off enough first that you need help settling down so you take it to settle you down. But why should you be getting that P'd off in the first place? You should have more strength than that over your temper and things that upset you."-Ohhhhhhhh have I gotten better concerning this. Exactly, I was hurt, so I punish myself by taking more Klonopin than I really needed? That is true. That's what I did. AND, I wasn't even pissed of (in terms of anxiety, anger, temper etc.) to have to even take it-I just had the FEELINGS and I'm dealing with them better-but still, I should have only taken 1 1/2 mg Klonopin like the doc said to start doing. That's what I mean by working so hard not to allow people to "rent space in my head" friend or not. My doc, at the time DID increase the Seroquel to like a total of 300 mg a day-and I DID wet the bed yuk-LOL so, I stay on the 100mg-which seems to do well, I am trying to use alternative solutions for getting and staying asleep in addition to the meds. I bought a sound machine which helps too.
CONCERNING THE TRAZADONE-I heard the same exact thing. And I do wonder to get the full amount of benefit as an antidepressant-you are knocked out to the point of where an earthquake or fire wouldn't wake you-that's a scary thought.
Keep me posted about ya:-)
Kristen
Krissy, from what you said below, shouldn't a higher dose of Seroquel, Lamictal, OR Effexor provide a long-term solution for that problem? Clonazepam in that regard is sort of an "after the fact" solution. Like you need to be P'd off enough first that you need help settling down so you take it to settle you down. But why should you be getting that P'd off in the first place? You should have more strength than that over your temper and things that upset you. If that's what you're taking the Clonazepam for, I would ask my Doctor to see what other drug I could increase to take that symptom away.
I went back to taking 1mg of Clonazepam last night, and honestly, I think I should drop it down to maybe .75mg or something... was pretty rough waking up this morning and my sleep was DEAD... I think if I had to wake up to use the bathroom or something I would have been out of luck... would have just wet the bed... lol... Even after all this time on Clonazepam (2 years, 8 months) I can't envision what it would be like to take 2mg of it. Probably strong enough to knock out a horse lol....
Hey, one other interesting tidbit that I found out last week... you know Trazadone? How it's used as a sleeping pill AND as a form of an Anti-Depressant? In order for it to be effective as an anti-depressant you generally need to take about 300-400mg per day of it. Now, would that be actually working as an anti-depressant or would it just be enough to knock you into a completely dreamless sleep so that you completely forget that you're even depressed?
Anyways, today seems good so far.... I'll let you know later on tonight how things went. I think my body's getting used to the 75mg of Seroquel now... going to increase it to 100mg tonight just to get that final dose increase out of the way.
Posted by Mikey_C on March 3, 2003, at 17:06:52
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There??? » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 15:57:43
lol... just got a quick note here for ya... My PDoc told me that there was a recent study done on Trazadone and it's AD effects and she said that in order to get any real therapeutic AD effect out of it, you would have to take an amount strong enough to knock out a horse. All the patients that they tried it on weren't depressed anymore because they didn't exactly know who they were anymore. I was taking 100mg a night of Trazadone at that point because I hadn't seen a PDoc in about a month and I stopped taking Celexa on my own free will because I just didn't like what it was doing to me and she told me to stop it right away, that I wasn't on a strong enough dose to go through any withdrawal (which I didn't) and that it definitely wasn't doing anything for my depression.As a sleep aid, however, it was amazing... 100mg and off to bed like a baby... Might go back to using that eventually instead of the Clonazepam at night. I've heard that Trazadone, in that regard, is far better for you *shrugs*
Posted by bubble on March 3, 2003, at 19:53:05
In reply to Any Seroquel Users Out There???, posted by Mikey_C on March 1, 2003, at 22:10:23
I have been on seroquel a while now. 100mg twice a day (200 total). I can't actually figure out what it's doing to me. But in the morning I feel the same as you do. If you ever decide to quit it (unless you haven't already) I wouldn't mind hearing it from you. Because I'll do it too faster than you can think. Thanks alot
Posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 19:55:26
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There???, posted by Mikey_C on March 3, 2003, at 17:06:52
Well..I'll be.........LOL
What a coincidence! So 100mg of Trazadone and you slept like a baby? That is awesome AND my choice over the Klonopin that I take now. Klonopin works so maybe I should stick with it-but it goes back to the addiction/dependence thing....OR.....I have Trazadone left from a while back-I wonder if I should try it tonight-100mg? Any opinion? Oh and by the way-when I went off of Effexor on my own free will- I was only on 75mg so I didn't have any withdrawal effects-similar to your experience with Celexa-yay for us. I felt bad I couldn't post to the many questions being raised about getting off the med-which has always worked for me anyhow.
Thanks, Kristen
lol... just got a quick note here for ya... My PDoc told me that there was a recent study done on Trazadone and it's AD effects and she said that in order to get any real therapeutic AD effect out of it, you would have to take an amount strong enough to knock out a horse. All the patients that they tried it on weren't depressed anymore because they didn't exactly know who they were anymore. I was taking 100mg a night of Trazadone at that point because I hadn't seen a PDoc in about a month and I stopped taking Celexa on my own free will because I just didn't like what it was doing to me and she told me to stop it right away, that I wasn't on a strong enough dose to go through any withdrawal (which I didn't) and that it definitely wasn't doing anything for my depression.
As a sleep aid, however, it was amazing... 100mg and off to bed like a baby... Might go back to using that eventually instead of the Clonazepam at night. I've heard that Trazadone, in that regard, is far better for you *shrugs*
Posted by Mikey_C on March 3, 2003, at 20:47:34
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There??? » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 19:55:26
Krissy... Trazadone IS an SSRI... true, it's a lot easier to take than just about any other, BUT, it can make you extremely hypomanic... you know, that whole "high" feeling... like everything is sooooo good, whoop de doo... no need to sleep anymore, LET'S PARTY!!!I would honestly check it out with your Doctor before you add Trazadone onto your medication combination (look, I made a rhyme :-) ) The only time that I experienced that "high" feeling is when I added Trazadone to my Effexor, and I was up for about 3 days till I'm like, jeez... this can't be right... it feels too good.....
Posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 21:36:20
In reply to Krissy... Important » KrissyP, posted by Mikey_C on March 3, 2003, at 20:47:34
You're a poet and didn't know it -(look, I made a rhyme too):-)
Okay Mikey-He likes it (the LIFE cereal quote ha ha) Anywaaaayyyy, thanks for the reply. I also heard that Trazadone is a weight gainer? Did I ask YOU your knowledge about that yet? It's an old school med right? I think I will talk to my doc-geez I think I need to let the Effexor kick back in and I am really going to work with the Klonopin-was it you who posted that Klonopin should only be used for when anxiety comes on? Or was it someone else?
KristenKrissy... Trazadone IS an SSRI... true, it's a lot easier to take than just about any other, BUT, it can make you extremely hypomanic... you know, that whole "high" feeling... like everything is sooooo good, whoop de doo... no need to sleep anymore, LET'S PARTY!!!
I would honestly check it out with your Doctor before you add Trazadone onto your medication combination (look, I made a rhyme :-) ) The only time that I experienced that "high" feeling is when I added Trazadone to my Effexor, and I was up for about 3 days till I'm like, jeez... this can't be right... it feels too good.....
Posted by Mikey_C on March 4, 2003, at 13:02:54
In reply to Re: Krissy... Important » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 3, 2003, at 21:36:20
Personally, I don't know if Trazadone is a weight gainer or not. I've seemed to stay at about the same weight on whatever medications I go on. Depakote, after 4 months of treatment at 500mg per day has only made me gain about 5 lbs, which I can lose just as easily if I drink a lot of water that day. I don't know, if you choose to use Trazadone I'd just watch the scale. If your weight starts to go up, exercise and diet more.I don't think Trazadone is an old-school Med, but you can ask some of the other people on PB... maybe they might know?
I said that Klonopin should be used in almost the same way that you use Tylenol to get rid of a headache. I mean, if you were suffering from some major migraines, you might use Tylenol at first to get rid of the initial pain, but then you'd get onto something else to prevent the Migraines from ever coming back, right? That in effect is the same way I'd use Clonazepam. It's good to stay on a low dose just about every day IF Panic Attacks and anxiety outbursts are what you're trying to keep at bay... especially for getting a good night's sleep since I seem to have most of my panic attacks at night when I'm trying to shut my body down... but like you did the other day in using it because you got really angry or hurt... one of your other meds such as Seroquel or Effexor should be able to handle that for you. Clonazepam should not be used as a primary medication for treating anybody long-term. That's where the dependence or addiction would definitely come into play.
Oh yeah, and I increased my Seroquel dosage to 100mg last night... just feel really out of it today but not as sedated as I was during the last week or so... just time seems to be flying by today... I got up at 9.. had 2 cups of coffee and played around on the Net for a bit, then I realized, wow... it's already 12:40 *gulp* I hadn't even bothered getting dressed yet...
Posted by KrissyP on March 4, 2003, at 18:48:52
In reply to Re: Krissy... Important, posted by Mikey_C on March 4, 2003, at 13:02:54
Hi there, So, the 100mg Seroquel did ok so far for you? Wonderful:-)I hope the "sedated" feeling you experienced last week, gets better-it sounds as if it is-like this morning.
What gets me is that I RARELY, if at all get panic attacks-I take the Klonopin for sleep. My doctor is trying to wean me down to 1mg of Klonopin, but I haven't done it yet. I, too, am a little concerned about the addiction aspect of ALL benzos. The other day when I took the Klonopin because my friend made a hurtful remark, true, the Effexor or Seroquel should have helped my feelings, However, I am still only one week into restarting the Effexor, so I'm hoping I don't react the way I did, as time goes on maybe those feelings will get better-I'll get over it LOL There's more to it but I'm lucky to have friends and a great mom to bounce my ideas off of when I got hurt by this friend. People change and maybe my friend is-I don't know. Anyway, what you say here-" got up at 9.. had 2 cups of coffee and played around on the Net for a bit, then I realized, wow... it's already 12:40 *gulp* I hadn't even bothered getting dressed yet..."-I laughed because you sound like me! I got up at 8:30, had a cigarette or 2 (I know yuk) played around on the net for a while, THEN got dressed, and before I knew it *gulp* it was 11am. I'm glad for you that the Seroquel seems to be helpin ya! Keep us posted.
All the best,
Kristen
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Personally, I don't know if Trazadone is a weight gainer or not. I've seemed to stay at about the same weight on whatever medications I go on. Depakote, after 4 months of treatment at 500mg per day has only made me gain about 5 lbs, which I can lose just as easily if I drink a lot of water that day. I don't know, if you choose to use Trazadone I'd just watch the scale. If your weight starts to go up, exercise and diet more.
I don't think Trazadone is an old-school Med, but you can ask some of the other people on PB... maybe they might know?I said that Klonopin should be used in almost the same way that you use Tylenol to get rid of a headache. I mean, if you were suffering from some major migraines, you might use Tylenol at first to get rid of the initial pain, but then you'd get onto something else to prevent the Migraines from ever coming back, right? That in effect is the same way I'd use Clonazepam. It's good to stay on a low dose just about every day IF Panic Attacks and anxiety outbursts are what you're trying to keep at bay... especially for getting a good night's sleep since I seem to have most of my panic attacks at night when I'm trying to shut my body down... but like you did the other day in using it because you got really angry or hurt... one of your other meds such as Seroquel or Effexor should be able to handle that for you. Clonazepam should not be used as a primary medication for treating anybody long-term. That's where the dependence or addiction would definitely come into play.
Oh yeah, and I increased my Seroquel dosage to 100mg last night... just feel really out of it today but not as sedated as I was during the last week or so... just time seems to be flying by today... I got up at 9.. had 2 cups of coffee and played around on the Net for a bit, then I realized, wow... it's already 12:40 *gulp* I hadn't even bothered getting dressed yet...
Posted by Mikey_C on March 4, 2003, at 19:02:37
In reply to Re: Krissy... Important » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 4, 2003, at 18:48:52
Well... today was an absolute waste... not too sedated... kind of a little sedated, a little hyper... but I got absolutely NOTHING done today... damn.. didn't even wind up having that shower that I talked about till about 5:30PM... read about 10 pages into a Chapter in my Human Resources Management Textbook and did a load of laundry... that was my ENTIRE day... actually, I cooked and ate a bagel too....Can you say ZOMBIE?????
Oh well... at least it wasn't as bad as last week... hopefully I don't want up tomorrow morning and just can't move neither...
Question --> Did Seroquel itself not help you with your depression? I have always done horrible on ANY SSRIs and I'm not too thrilled with the idea of my depression setting back in. Right now I seem to be rid of it... no anxiety, no depression... just kind of burned out at the moment, if you know what I mean...
Oh, another question, if you don't mind my asking --> What was your professional diagnosis? Is it the same as mine in that they don't have a freaking clue what's wrong with me? I was told that I'm Anxiety NOS or something to that effect. Meaning that I have an anxiety problem, an adjunct depressive problem, an adjunt panic disorder, some post traumatic stress, and my prior drug use has seemed to further jumble up all my chemicals in my head....
I need something that will control all of that... In my opinion, 3 medications is my tops... I'm not going to even consider taking a fourth... my Doctors know that, and anyways, I can't afford it in the first place, can barely afford the three... So far my Doctors have told me that I should be on Seroquel, 100mg to start with, then I should be weaned off of Depakote once the Seroquel is in place and after a dry-out period be placed on Lamotragene (since Lamotragene doesn't mix well with Depakote, from what I've heard), and my Clonazepam as an emergency backup and to help me sleep at night.
Isn't insomnia horrendous though? Since I was a little boy, like 4 years old, I've had problems sleeping. Through my teens it got worse and worse... when I was like 16 I would have maybe one or two nights out of the week where I would only get like 4 hours of sleep... the rest of the week I would sleep fine... Then by the time I got to my early 20's I just couldn't sleep at all... I would have panic attacks at night because I would be tossing and turning so much and my mind would just be recycling through useless information continuously preventing me from sleeping... then if I fell asleep, I would just awake about 2 hours later and be up like a light, just *click* and I'm up... It got to the point where I was so bloody confused as to who I was or what I was doing because my body was refusing sleep.... Luckily Clonazepam has helped that, and for the 2 years 8 months that I've been on it... only 1mg is all I've ever needed to get some really sound sleep at night.
Anyways, enough ramblings...
Posted by KrissyP on March 4, 2003, at 19:49:19
In reply to Re: Krissy... Important » KrissyP, posted by Mikey_C on March 4, 2003, at 19:02:37
Hey, I won't say ZOMBIE-but I will say Taking Care of YOU:-) We deserve the right to not do much. Hey, I worked so hard for my final yesterday that I hung out with a frined most of the day. I'm glad you took a shower though, and ate:-) No, Seroquel did nothing for my depression taken alone. BUT I had a doctor who took me off everything except Seroquel and Lamictal a few years back-it didn't last. I have always done horrible on SSRI's also, and quit trying them and found Effexor-XR-works well, went off and lost it, still not ready to go off again I guess. My professional diagnosis-yes it is kinda like you. I was diagnosed with Major Depression in 1995, and with Bipolar II Not Otherwise specified(NOS) in 1999. I have a little symptom of a lot of different diagnoses.
I have gone through a really rough time with the depression alone-but was doing so well for about a year-then recently moved back home and all the feelings were just coming back to me. Depression, hopelessness, lethargy, anxiety, tummy pains, etc..Good for you for drawing the line on 3 meds-I feel the same way exactly. I take the lowest dose of all my meds and was actually not depressed when just taking Effexor-XR, Seroquel, and Klonopin. But like I said when I moved home temporarily, I started feeling a lot of stress which was what sent me into a tailspin back in the beginning of fighting the "beast"(depression). The only drug I have done is pot and I was hangin out with the wrong crowd so to speak, ended up in the ER-because it was laced. I don't make street drugs a habit AT ALL now. I never did any other than pot. Sometimes the day before a test, didn't get too good of a grade for some reason. May I ask where you are? Is (Lamotragene) Lamictal? I just look at the names. No, Depakote and Lamictal are both used, from what I know, for bipolar. I would rather take only one med and work with that.
Your medication combo sounds good and I hope it keeps helping you:-) You know, since I was a little kid too, about 7, I was always afraid of the dark. At 32, I still sleep with a dim light on and my sound machiine. Just in case I don't trip in the middle of the night if I have to go to the bathroom.-Nah- I think it is because at times, I am still afraid of the dark. It's weird.
Not all the time though. Anyway, back in 1995, I also tossed and turned so bad, so much and my mind would just be recycling through useless information and that's when my first doc labeled me as havingn OCD-took Anafranil-gained a lot of weight-tried Luvox-pain all over -and that was the end of that. I am glad that the 1mg of Klonopin is working for you YAY! I eventually want to lower from the 2mg I take for sleep-per my docs orders, but haven't done so yet.
All the best-I hoped this helped? And of course not, you weren't rambling-I feel like I am:-)
Kristen
-------------------------------------------------Can you say ZOMBIE?????
Question --> Did Seroquel itself not help you with your depression? I have always done horrible on ANY SSRIs and I'm not too thrilled with the idea of my depression setting back in. Right now I seem to be rid of it... no anxiety, no depression... just kind of burned out at the moment, if you know what I mean...
Oh, another question, if you don't mind my asking --> What was your professional diagnosis? Is it the same as mine in that they don't have a freaking clue what's wrong with me? I was told that I'm Anxiety NOS or something to that effect. Meaning that I have an anxiety problem, an adjunct depressive problem, an adjunt panic disorder, some post traumatic stress, and my prior drug use has seemed to further jumble up all my chemicals in my head....
I need something that will control all of that... In my opinion, 3 medications is my tops... I'm not going to even consider taking a fourth... my Doctors know that, and anyways, I can't afford it in the first place, can barely afford the three... So far my Doctors have told me that I should be on Seroquel, 100mg to start with, then I should be weaned off of Depakote once the Seroquel is in place and after a dry-out period be placed on Lamotragene (since Lamotragene doesn't mix well with Depakote, from what I've heard), and my Clonazepam as an emergency backup and to help me sleep at night.
Isn't insomnia horrendous though? Since I was I would be tossing and turning so much and my mind would just be recycling through useless information Luckily Clonazepam has helped that, and for the 2 years 8 months that I've been on it... only 1mg is all I've ever needed to get some really sound sleep at night.
Anyways, enough ramblings...
Posted by Mikey_C on March 4, 2003, at 20:14:40
In reply to Re: Krissy... Important » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 4, 2003, at 19:49:19
Yeah, but to me, taking care of ME is to actually get up and do something useful. I really really HATE this part of my life. You know, before, I never allowed myself to have any downtime. I was always doing something. And still, over the last 8 months I have achieved a LOT of small goals. I've got my CPIM (Certified Production and Inventory Manager Designation... goes with Supply Chain Management and Logistics stuff... this was hard, 5 very complicated exams), got my driver's license (yep... finally... having panic attacks and being manic and all... taught myself to drive), finally settled down with my first gf in AGES (that's a major accomplishment for me... I haven't had a real relationship since I was 18... like 6 years), and am now just about ready to complete another 2 College courses to add points to my CPIM... I don't like downtime.... it's not a part of my personality... but for some reason today, I just couldn't do anythingNow, I know I've got a major depressive side of me... it took me about 7 years to get over the death of my Mom reasonably... like without crying myself to sleep every night... it's going on 9 years now, but just over the Christmas Holidays, when I took myself off of Celexa, I settled right back into a deep depression... not really "sad" so to speak, but I had next to no energy, I was ALWAYS tired, and my body hurt all over.... not just stomach pains here... every muscle in my body, including the ones that I didn't know I had, ached... I just had my first professional designation done and the Doctor that did it picked up on that within the first hour or so... I told her that I was off of my AD's and that I was pretty sure my Depression was settling back in, by the end of the first hour she's like, yeah... I can definitely see the depression... it looks like you're just going to pass out sitting there, your body is sagging all over...
And I've had many panic attacks in the past... nothing too severe that required hospitalization, but severe enough that I needed complete darkness for several hours so I could keep my heart from jumping out of my chest... And anxiety... God, I would worry about worrying... I couldn't fall asleep at night because I was worried that I wouldn't get enough sleep to last me the next day... and then I would be worried that I didn't have the right clothes to wear the next day, get up, put them together... then I would worry about something else... I had NO patience whatsoever, if a problem came up... well damn, it had to be settled right there and then or else I would just about completely lose it.... BAD temper... God, really bad temper... If I got pissed off, watch out... that actually got me fired from several jobs and just about kicked out of school...
Then add that on to the fact that I've led a pretty screwed up life... My Therapist, who is really like my first line of defence through this, has known me since I was a little kid, but I didn't see her for a number of years during my teens... when I came back and told her what was going on in my life, she was just kind of staring at me like amazed that I had actually lived through half of it and that I wasn't locked up in prison somewhere.... So that definitely adds on to a lot of little symptoms for me... like my gf for instance, she has a really close knit family... I get so uncomfortable around there because I've never really had a family... I just had a group of people that I lived with and that provided financal assistance and you could call on when you got into trouble... my family life died with my Mom back in 94....
Anyways, that gets me thinking as to what exactly the Seroquel is being prescribed to me for then. The Depakote (which is a major mood stabilizer used in Bi-Polars) has just about completely cleared me of my anxiety symptoms minus the panic attacks... the panic attacks are cured by the Clonazepam... the only time that I've had one in the past 8 months is when I'm first trying out a new med, like the Seroquel, and I just stop taking it for a number of nights because it's too sedating... the only thing that I don't have a counter really for is the Depression.
What would you think that the PDocs would prescribe me Seroquel for then? I've never become delusional... like I've never had any really vivid hallucinations... I've never had any voices in my head... To the best of my knowledge I am clearly NOT psychotic...
And I thought the Lamotragene (Lamictal) would help me with my depression too? I thought that's what they were applying it for... Both the Seroquel and the Lamotragene to fight off both the anxiety and the depression... But are they both just for anxiety or what?
Now I'm confused.... If the Seroquel is for anxiety and they wanted to take me off of the Depakote and use the Seroquel instead to manage the anxiety, then yes, I would think I should be on Effexor XR again for the depression... Seroquel and Effexor seem to feel a LOT alike so far. If the Seroquel fights off anxiety and manic symptoms... then I could stay on this and use the Effexor as the opposite, to fight off the depression... then I could use the Clonazepam for help sleeping and to keep me free from having panic attacks... that would make sense to me
Anyways... I am definitely rambling on now, so I'll stop............
Posted by KrissyP on March 4, 2003, at 23:55:49
In reply to Re: Any Seroquel Users Out There???, posted by bubble on March 3, 2003, at 19:53:05
Hi, Are you ok? What other symptoms are you having on the Seroquel, may I ask? Do you just not like it? I used to take 200mg at night-now I take 100mg. I promise you that if I ever do decide to quit it I will get back to you. As of now, it is doing pretty good for me but we'll see......
Please keep me posted on you k?:-)
Kristen> I have been on seroquel a while now. 100mg twice a day (200 total). I can't actually figure out what it's doing to me. But in the morning I feel the same as you do. If you ever decide to quit it (unless you haven't already) I wouldn't mind hearing it from you. Because I'll do it too faster than you can think. Thanks alot
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Posted by KrissyP on March 5, 2003, at 1:15:28
In reply to Re: Krissy... Important, posted by Mikey_C on March 4, 2003, at 20:14:40
Wow-thank you for sharing-I am sorry to hear about your mom. When my parents divorced any kind of family I had went with him (emotionally)
Anyway, about the Seroquel. Even though you don't think you are psychotic, it has been known to help people who have a "temper" as you said you did. When I get my Seroquel filled, I look at the INDICATIONS on the slip they give me and see "used for mental disorders such as Schizophrenia"-WHAT!!!??? I am not Schizophrenic. See my point above.
You have come a long way my friend-don't forget that:-) Lamictal and Seroquel CAN help depression-more in some less in others.
Please, don't think so much, I do that a lot and it trips me up everytime. I don't know quite the chemical make up of these meds but they all work in a way which only their manufacturers understand. Maybe your doc wants to see how you do w/o the Depakote. Talk to him/her about your feelings on this and becoming depressed. I hear you-believe me-I want you to feel better. Try not to get confused about these meds. There are many sites with great info, and talk to your doc.
Keep me posted k? Please...and no you're not rambling I am here for you!
Kristen
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Then add that on to the fact that I've led a pretty screwed up life... My Therapist, who is really like my first line of defence through this, has known me since I was a little kid, but I didn't see her for a number of years during my teens... when I came back and told her what was going on in my life, she was just kind of staring at me like amazed that I had actually lived through half of it and that I wasn't locked up in prison somewhere.... So that definitely adds on to a lot of little symptoms for me... like my gf for instance, she has a really close knit family... I get so uncomfortable around there because I've never really had a family... I just had a group of people that I lived with and that provided financal assistance and you could call on when you got into trouble... my family life died with my Mom back in 94....
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> Anyways, that gets me thinking as to what exactly the Seroquel is being prescribed to me for then. The Depakote (which is a major mood stabilizer used in Bi-Polars) has just about completely cleared me of my anxiety symptoms minus the panic attacks... the panic attacks are cured by the Clonazepam... the only time that I've had one in the past 8 months is when I'm first trying out a new med, like the Seroquel, and I just stop taking it for a number of nights because it's too sedating... the only thing that I don't have a counter really for is the Depression.
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> What would you think that the PDocs would prescribe me Seroquel for then? I've never become delusional... like I've never had any really vivid hallucinations... I've never had any voices in my head... To the best of my knowledge I am clearly NOT psychotic...
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> And I thought the Lamotragene (Lamictal) would help me with my depression too? I thought that's what they were applying it for... Both the Seroquel and the Lamotragene to fight off both the anxiety and the depression... But are they both just for anxiety or what?
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> Now I'm confused.... If the Seroquel is for anxiety and they wanted to take me off of the Depakote and use the Seroquel instead to manage the anxiety, then yes, I would think I should be on Effexor XR again for the depression... Seroquel and Effexor seem to feel a LOT alike so far. If the Seroquel fights off anxiety and manic symptoms... then I could stay on this and use the Effexor as the opposite, to fight off the depression... then I could use the Clonazepam for help sleeping and to keep me free from having panic attacks... that would make sense to me
Anyways... I am definitely rambling on now, so I'll stop............
Posted by Mikey_C on March 5, 2003, at 18:11:53
In reply to Re: Krissy... Important » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 5, 2003, at 1:15:28
Just jotting down a quick update... my wrestling is coming on in about 45 minutes :-) God Bless TNA...
Anyways, the Seroquel still has my motivation absolutely tapped but no depression, no anxiety, and still sleeping like a baby. I'm at my 3rd night (tonight) of 100mg... Maybe my motivation will drop back in once I take myself off of Depakote, huh? I'm still taking 500mg of that per day.
The one funny thing though is this... most people complain of weight gain on Seroquel... I had that at first, but these last two days it's almost like I have to force myself to eat... just haven't been hungry AT ALL... Weird, huh?
K, I'll post more tomorrow....
Posted by KrissyP on March 5, 2003, at 19:21:54
In reply to Update on Today » KrissyP, posted by Mikey_C on March 5, 2003, at 18:11:53
Hi, the Seroquel is still zapping your motivation? I am glad to hear, though, no anxiety, depression,and your sleeping well! GREAT. I think with most meds, when we first start taking them, for some reason our appetite decreases. Starting new meds are an obvious shock to our systems. I take my Seroquel, and about an hour later, if I don't go to sleep, I hit the fridge with hunger.
Weird huh? I wonder if anyone has an take on this????????
Take care,
Kristen:-)
-------------------------------------------------Just jotting down a quick update... my wrestling is coming on in about 45 minutes :-) God Bless TNA...
Anyways, the Seroquel still has my motivation absolutely tapped but no depression, no anxiety, and still sleeping like a baby. I'm at my 3rd night (tonight) of 100mg... Maybe my motivation will drop back in once I take myself off of Depakote, huh? I'm still taking 500mg of that per day.
The one funny thing though is this... most people complain of weight gain on Seroquel... I had that at first, but these last two days it's almost like I have to force myself to eat... just haven't been hungry AT ALL... Weird, huh?
K, I'll post more tomorrow....
Posted by Mikey_C on March 5, 2003, at 21:27:07
In reply to Re: Update on Today » Mikey_C, posted by KrissyP on March 5, 2003, at 19:21:54
Yep, no real emotions at all actually... Just kind of a flatness at the moment... another day spent doing nothing, pretty much because I could... Not sure what would have happened if I had something that I had to do today *shrugs*I still wonder though if that's from the Seroquel, or because of the combination of Seroquel and Depakote. Depakote had me pretty much anxiety free when I started taking the Seroquel. It took me a few months of upping and lowering the dosage, just playing with it, before I found that I was best at 500mg of Depakote per day. Now I've added on 100mg of Seroquel to that, plus 1mg of Clonazepam every night... I think that leads to why I have absolutely no motivation at the moment.
I explained this to my girl, so she decided, yep, let's get you out of the house tomorrow. So we're going to see that Jet Li movie Cradle 2 The Grave tomorrow... That will be a relief from being stuck here... starting to get cabin fever...
Then my Therapist gets back on Friday from her vacation overseas... I think she'll know pretty much what to do for me to get my motivation back... and I heard from the other Doctor that I was seeing for my Diagnosis that they wanted me to stop taking Depakote once the Seroquel kicked in enough and possibly add on a low dose of Lamictal.....
Anyways, bedtime... time to take that Clonazepam and get some Zzzzzzzzzzs
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