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Posted by Phil on July 20, 2002, at 16:50:26
In reply to Re: ECT info needed! » Phil, posted by Chloe on July 20, 2002, at 13:17:37
Having trouble finding it. Used to be maxfink.org.
Key it in to Google and all you get is negative propaganda. NAMI should have something on him at their site.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Posted by fachad on July 20, 2002, at 17:40:39
In reply to ECT info needed!, posted by Chloe on July 20, 2002, at 11:31:12
Hi, Chole,
Good to see you again.
I don't really know very much about ECT, but I have heard that ECT, as it is performed nowadays is very safe and fairly gentle. It's just that we have very negative images of it from the media and from times past when the technique was much cruder.
I think some here have had it done. Try searching the Psychobabble archives, all years, for ECT.
> I am aware that ECT is know as the *treatment of last resort.* But what if a person has wide range of moods, they very from dysthymia to suicidal depression to extreme bouts of dysphoric hypomania with psychotic features, and the usual meds can't be taken? Neuroleptics are not an option due to TD. Mood stabilizers are not well tolerated, and can't get to therapeutic levels. AD's cause more cycling and agitation.
>
> This person is not catatonically depressed or wildly manic. Has ect ever been used successfully for irriatic mood disorder with any success?
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> Does a person have to be *completely* of antiepileptic drugs to even have ect? Even benzos?
>
> How about unilateral treatment for such problems? Since there is less memory/cognitive impairment.
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by Chloe on July 20, 2002, at 19:23:26
In reply to Re: ECT info needed! » Chloe, posted by fachad on July 20, 2002, at 17:40:39
Thanks Phil, Fachad,
I have done extensive searches, out on the web and in PB archives.Old school was very vocal about ECT and was planning to have it. He provided alot of interesting, informative links. I wonder how he is doing.
A girl named mags also had some treatments recently. But no updates that i have seen.There just don't seem to be any *definitive* answers to who is a good candidate, what kind of outcome there will be and the memory impairment stuff.
I am extremely depressed with dysphoric agitated episodes and my doc is out of med options. She thinks an ECT consult is in order since I can't take AP"s, and having some strange alopecia, patchy bald spots from depakote, burning scalp pain from lithium and neurontin. So I am a total mess. But who knows, ECT my make things even worse.
One positive thing I have read is that ECT can reduce the TD symptoms in a person. The seizures somehow reboot the brain so there can be some reduction of TD. That would be cool.
Fachad, BTW, I still like the Doxepin. Appetite is back to normal and it works well to put me to sleep when in an agitated state. Major improvement over Amitriptyline. Thanks for your help.
Phil, I think I found the site you are talking about: "electroshock.org." The search title says Max fink. But I can access it. It won't load. Server must be down? Thanks for the lead.
Chloe
Posted by jaby on July 21, 2002, at 12:45:51
In reply to ECT info needed!, posted by Chloe on July 20, 2002, at 11:31:12
My sister had a fully catatonic episode a few years back (no eating, talking, walking) w/ psychotic features. They perfomed ECT (I'm not certain what kind-my mom says unilateral, but I find that hard to believe). Anyhow, after her first treatment she called me on the phone. It was totally amazing! She continued to have treatments for several moths and now takes maintenance doses of lithium and neurontin. She is 100% perfect (better than myself).
I am doing pretty well now on lithium, provigil, and neurontin, but my dr. has hinted at unilateral ECT for me as a possibility. I have had some good responses to a number of meds only to have them poop out very quickly. He says he has a patient that they have performed unilateral on and she was not severely depressed, but meds didn't work out for her.
In a nutshell, I think ECT is amazing. It does so many things (changes ion channels, seizure threshhold, neurotramsmitter levels, receptor sites, etc.) I think it does even more than we think and I consider it kind of a catch-all. Probably the highest rate of efficacy also!
Posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 10:20:18
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Chloe on July 20, 2002, at 19:23:26
Chloe,
I had ECT last fall. I was so depressed that I wasn't eating and was losing weight. My history of depression goes back 30 years with mild bouts of hypomania in the spring. As a teen I was severely anorexic. Prior to ECT I had vowed never to have it, but most of the meds did nothing for my almost catatonic depression and suicidality. After 9 sessions of ECT, I left the hospital joking and I have been fine for 9 months, taking maintenance Seroquel, Celexa, Nortryptiline, Lithobid, and Buspar.
Hope this helps, Mimi
Posted by Chloe on July 22, 2002, at 10:40:12
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 10:20:18
From what you and Jaby (thank you!) have reported, I don't think I am a candidate for ECT. I am not catatonic, and my mood often rapid cycles. So I can have times where I feel "oK." But never long enough to hold a job or follow through on events planned when I feel a little relief from suicidal ideation.
But since my meds (tinny weeny doses of lithium, depakote, neurontin, celexa) all cause me such problems, I was hoping ECT might 'reboot' my brain so I can take Li or an antipsychotic without major side effects or increased TD. I read somewhere that ECT actually improves some parkinsonism...Which I definitely have, so AP's are not an option.
Mimi,
how was your memory after your treatments? I am so afraid that I would not recognize people in my town or what my phone number is for example. Was memory or cogitive impairments an issue for you?ANd have you ever heard of people NOT catatonically depressed or suicidal all the time getting ECT? Or is ECT only for those who are really in an emergent state in your opinion?
I am SO glad it was helpful to you. And your maintenance regime sounds like what I would LIKE to be taking. I love seroquel. It was so calming. But gives me tongue movements :(.
Thanks you
Chloe
Posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 17:06:53
In reply to ECT info needed! » Mimi, posted by Chloe on July 22, 2002, at 10:40:12
Hi Chloe,
Sorry it took all day for me to get back to you. Thank you for the info on SEX and Meds--invaluable!After ECT treatments, which I had in Oct/Nov I had memory problems. I forgot most of my 3 hospitalizations which began Aug. 31st, 2001. I also forgot most of last summer. I did not recognize some people I should know. I did know my phone number, but spent many months with friends filling in the blanks.
Yes, I was definitely cognitively impaired for at least 6 months. Fortunately for me, I changed jobs after the last ECT session, so I began anew and was equally fortunate to have a boss who covered my butt. Also, I only worked 20 hrs/week. I would say I was pretty low functioning. I'm just beginning to come into my stride. I can read again and I can enjoy intellectual conversation, which I could not do after ECT.
I must tell you that I had been an agitated depressive most of my life. Also, some of my memory impairment is from years of the depression itself. I started to notice memory problems in 1995 or so, before I ever took psychiatric meds or had ECT.
What is Li? Is it Lithium?
If I were you, I would have a consultation with a really experienced ECT doc. He/she would be able to tell you more about whether you are a good candidate. I had an excellent ECT doc who was more than happy to answer all my questions and those of my relatives.
Since ECT I have not had one depressed day.
Thanks for responding. Mimi
Posted by Essence on July 22, 2002, at 17:50:02
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 17:06:53
Mimi;
I thought ECT was supposed to eliminate the need for medications? What is the point of having it if a person just ends up back on meds? I am totally confused about this.
Ess
Posted by Chloe on July 22, 2002, at 18:29:25
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 17:06:53
Mimi,
You post is most inspiring...that you haven't had a depressed day since ECT.I have had agitated depression basically since before puberty. I have had many hospitalizations, and tried every med available it seems. The use of antipsychotics made it so I was pretty functional. But I developed TD in the mid 1990's and it's been really tough going since. No med really seems to help that much right now, or I can't take therapeutic dose without awful side effects. Yes, Li is the elemental abreviation for lithium, sorry. I am waiting for my pdoc to get back to me about a ECT consult. I think he is a head of ECT of a major hospital.
Do you recall if you had bilateral, bifrontal or unilateral ECT? Do you think you could have ever done ECT as an outpatient? Or were you really too confused? I would like to save the cost of a hospitalization if possible. I am a bit worried about having memory problems. But if it's not permanent, I think I could manage it. And if it would stop the pain...I would be so grateful.
Well, I don't know what will come of all of this, but your info has been very helpful. I am so glad you feel better, and have no permanent impairment.
Thanks a million for you post
Chloe
Posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 20:54:56
In reply to Re: ECT info needed! » Mimi, posted by Essence on July 22, 2002, at 17:50:02
>Essence,
No, I don't believe ECT is supposed to eliminate the need for meds. In my case, I was taken off my old med regimen before ECT and put on a completely different one post ECT. Some doctor in the hospital I used determined that I should be on lithium as a way to augment the antidepressants. That had never been tried before and happened to work. For me, ECT was used to save my life and to boost my spirits enough that the meds could be used as stabilizers. This treatment has been very effective. Before ECT, the drugs had worked only minimally. I hope this clears up your questions. Mimi
Mimi;
>
> I thought ECT was supposed to eliminate the need for medications? What is the point of having it if a person just ends up back on meds? I am totally confused about this.
>
> Ess
Posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 21:07:04
In reply to Re: ECT info needed! » Mimi, posted by Chloe on July 22, 2002, at 18:29:25
> Mimi,
> You post is most inspiring...that you haven't had a depressed day since ECT.
>
> I have had agitated depression basically since before puberty. I have had many hospitalizations, and tried every med available it seems. The use of antipsychotics made it so I was pretty functional. But I developed TD in the mid 1990's and it's been really tough going since. No med really seems to help that much right now, or I can't take therapeutic dose without awful side effects. Yes, Li is the elemental abreviation for lithium, sorry. I am waiting for my pdoc to get back to me about a ECT consult. I think he is a head of ECT of a major hospital.
>
> Do you recall if you had bilateral, bifrontal or unilateral ECT? Do you think you could have ever done ECT as an outpatient? Or were you really too confused? I would like to save the cost of a hospitalization if possible. I am a bit worried about having memory problems. But if it's not permanent, I think I could manage it. And if it would stop the pain...I would be so grateful.
>
> Well, I don't know what will come of all of this, but your info has been very helpful. I am so glad you feel better, and have no permanent impairment.
>
> Thanks a million for you post
> ChloeDear Chloe,
Thanks for the post!I had unilateral ECT as it causes less memory impairment. I was told this was the best way to go.
I started ECT as an inpatient, but then I was released, returned several times a week as an outpatient for ECT. A friend had to drive me to and from and other friends had to stay with me through the night as a medical precaution. I don't remember a lot of it.
Medication did not really work for me before ECT. After ECT, a smart doctor put me on lithium to augment Celexa and maybe Nortrytiline(sp). This combo along with Buspar and Seroquel have kept me stable for about nine months. Truly I have not had a depressed day, yet I can still feel the emotion of sadness if I truly have reason to.
Too bad you developed TD. I have had good results with the AP's. However, I could not tolerate any of the AD's--I got all the horrible side effects that are listed as rare in the PDR.
I don't know what would have happened to me if I did not have ECT. I would probably had to stay inpatient for many months until they found the right meds. Of course, who wants to pay for that?
I have a friend whose life was saved by ECT and now she is running for state-level political office. I see no cognitive impairment in her, but she was very high functioning to begin with.
Posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 14:40:47
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 21:07:04
HI To everyone who has posted:
I had an inadequate course of bilateral ECT About 7 years ago. They were very helpful.
Since then I have done alot research because they were so helpful, and I have had very little response from medications.Here is what I have found.
They now seem to be doing bifrontal treatments instead of bilateral because they are just as good and don't cause as many side effects.
Unilateral aren't as good as the above.
Using Diprivan as anesthesia should be requested because it causes much less side effects when awakening than Brevital ( the most common anesthesia ). About five studies (PUBMED) show that Diprivan won't hinder efficacy. Also several doctors have confirmed this when I asked.
You can take up to 3mg of ativan a day without causing inadequate seizures ( That's what they allow at Colummbia University studies - again see PUBMED).
From, what I've read ECT is a good catch all treatment for several conditions including the ones I've seen above.
My main concern now is relapse. When I did my treatments, the positive effects only lasted about 1 month. I read a Columbia study regarding the best way to prevent relapse, and they say nortriptyline + Li is by far the best.
NIMH is now conducting relapse studies using nortriptyline + Li as well as maintenance ECT. Unfortunately when I called them they said the results of the study won't be out for 18 months.
Hope this info helps. I believe it is pretty accurate. I get most of my info from PUBMED studies and a couple ECT doctors I have seen.
By the way, for people who have had ECT, could you tell me what you are doing to prevent relapse and whether it has been effective and for how long. Also could you tell me if you were treatment resistant, as I am, before the treatments.
Also thanks for the Fink website, I'm going to definetly check it out.
Dave
Posted by Mimi on July 23, 2002, at 16:35:12
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 14:40:47
> HI To everyone who has posted:
>
> I had an inadequate course of bilateral ECT About 7 years ago. They were very helpful.
> Since then I have done alot research because they were so helpful, and I have had very little response from medications.
>
> Here is what I have found.
>
> They now seem to be doing bifrontal treatments instead of bilateral because they are just as good and don't cause as many side effects.
>
> Unilateral aren't as good as the above.
>
> Using Diprivan as anesthesia should be requested because it causes much less side effects when awakening than Brevital ( the most common anesthesia ). About five studies (PUBMED) show that Diprivan won't hinder efficacy. Also several doctors have confirmed this when I asked.
>
> You can take up to 3mg of ativan a day without causing inadequate seizures ( That's what they allow at Colummbia University studies - again see PUBMED).
>
> From, what I've read ECT is a good catch all treatment for several conditions including the ones I've seen above.
>
> My main concern now is relapse. When I did my treatments, the positive effects only lasted about 1 month. I read a Columbia study regarding the best way to prevent relapse, and they say nortriptyline + Li is by far the best.
>
> NIMH is now conducting relapse studies using nortriptyline + Li as well as maintenance ECT. Unfortunately when I called them they said the results of the study won't be out for 18 months.
>
> Hope this info helps. I believe it is pretty accurate. I get most of my info from PUBMED studies and a couple ECT doctors I have seen.
>
> By the way, for people who have had ECT, could you tell me what you are doing to prevent relapse and whether it has been effective and for how long. Also could you tell me if you were treatment resistant, as I am, before the treatments.
>
> Also thanks for the Fink website, I'm going to definetly check it out.
>
> DaveThanks a bunch for your informative post.
I was most definitely "treatment resistant" before ECT. I had tried many meds.
To prevent relapse I take Li, nortriptyline, Buspar, Seroquel, and Celexa. Works well except for the sexual side effects. I have no intention of relapsing. Thanks for the tip on Nortriptyline and Li.
I had nine unilateral ECT treatments. Bilateral is known to be worse for memory. Keep posting.
Mimi
Posted by katekite on July 23, 2002, at 17:03:15
In reply to Treatment Resistant, posted by Mimi on July 23, 2002, at 16:35:12
This was a while ago but I recall reading that there was a drug out now that had been found to have some protective effect against the memory loss caused by ECT and they were recommending people be on it during the treatments. I will try to find it unless someone has heard this and knows what it is? I just don't recall where it was I read this.
Posted by Chloe on July 23, 2002, at 18:13:06
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 14:40:47
Dave, I am sorry you didn't have good follow up after your ECT. Was it a last resort for you? Or were you still having some good days, before you opted for ECT?
Dave or Mimi, did you have to be off all antiepileptic drugs? I take 250 mgs depakote and 600 neurontin + 10 of valium. God, I think if I tapered it would be hell. I am bearly hanging on with what I taking.
I still don't think I am depressed enough for ECT. I have been treatment resistant for over 20 years. I don't think I have felt "happy" (wired, agitated, yes) for more than a day or two in many years. I have never gotten a good, consistant response from meds(expect AP's), and I have had a lot of good therapy.
I just don't know what to do now. I can't imagine that this is as good as life gets. I have chronic emotional pain, at times agitated and suicidal. Other times, somewhat tolerable. But I don't enjoy very much, or *want* to do anything. And I am making those around me miserable.
Mimi, you mentioned that friends drove you to and from treatments, and others stayed with you at night. My friends have long faded away, and I keep my mental troubles discreet as possible from acquiatiances. How do you keep friends with major depression/rapid cycles? Don't answer if you don't want to...
I also have no family in the region, so they can't help me with treatments, etc. And I would hate to be locked up. That would be awful.The ECT doc called today while I was out about a consult. I am very frightened now. And I don't even have an appointment yet. Gosh, this just seems so risky since I am somewhat functional, but definitely in a rut. Meds aren't working and the mood stabilizers give me such awful side effects. But those I need the most, in leiu of AP's
Sorry for the anxious ramble.
Chloe
Posted by Mimi on July 23, 2002, at 19:53:16
In reply to ect info, posted by katekite on July 23, 2002, at 17:03:15
> This was a while ago but I recall reading that there was a drug out now that had been found to have some protective effect against the memory loss caused by ECT and they were recommending people be on it during the treatments. I will try to find it unless someone has heard this and knows what it is? I just don't recall where it was I read this.
Thanks, Katekite,
I remember that I had to take several drugs on each morning before an ECT treatment. I can't recall what they were. Maybe you can find out what they might be? I really should know this and I am surprised that I lost track of it
Posted by Mimi on July 23, 2002, at 20:08:36
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Chloe on July 23, 2002, at 18:13:06
> Dave, I am sorry you didn't have good follow up after your ECT. Was it a last resort for you? Or were you still having some good days, before you opted for ECT?
>
> Dave or Mimi, did you have to be off all antiepileptic drugs? I take 250 mgs depakote and 600 neurontin + 10 of valium. God, I think if I tapered it would be hell. I am bearly hanging on with what I taking.
>
> I still don't think I am depressed enough for ECT. I have been treatment resistant for over 20 years. I don't think I have felt "happy" (wired, agitated, yes) for more than a day or two in many years. I have never gotten a good, consistant response from meds(expect AP's), and I have had a lot of good therapy.
>
> I just don't know what to do now. I can't imagine that this is as good as life gets. I have chronic emotional pain, at times agitated and suicidal. Other times, somewhat tolerable. But I don't enjoy very much, or *want* to do anything. And I am making those around me miserable.
>
> Mimi, you mentioned that friends drove you to and from treatments, and others stayed with you at night. My friends have long faded away, and I keep my mental troubles discreet as possible from acquiatiances. How do you keep friends with major depression/rapid cycles? Don't answer if you don't want to...
> I also have no family in the region, so they can't help me with treatments, etc. And I would hate to be locked up. That would be awful.
>
> The ECT doc called today while I was out about a consult. I am very frightened now. And I don't even have an appointment yet. Gosh, this just seems so risky since I am somewhat functional, but definitely in a rut. Meds aren't working and the mood stabilizers give me such awful side effects. But those I need the most, in leiu of AP's
>
> Sorry for the anxious ramble.
> ChloeDear Chloe,
Don't throw in the towel yet. Really. You can be helped. I was completely treatment resistant for YEARS.You need friends and support people. My life turned around when I joined a Depression/Manic-Depression Support Group. Find one. They are everywhere. Call NAMI at 800-639-6480. This is a state number but they will give you the number for your state. That's a start.
If you can afford it go to a bodyworker: massage, etc.
My family has been of little help to me. I work at cultivating friends. My friends have been very supportive of me getting ECT. I even told one of my bosses without an adverse reaction. One friend of mine had many many rounds of ECT and is now running for statewide political office after having been "out" about her ECT treatments.
Yes, they did clear my system of AP drugs and benzos before they did ECT. Yes, it is risky. They told me I could die, but what did I care. At least I was doing something after having been in the rut for 20 odd years.
Now, I work 20 hours a week, have a full social calendar and even have a new boyfriend who knows my history!
Keep posting; don't give up. I check my e'mail every day. Sincerely yours, Mimi
Posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 20:17:08
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Chloe on July 23, 2002, at 18:13:06
Thanks Mimi, KateKite, Chloe for your quick responses.
Mimi. I was wondering how long it has been since your initial ECT treatments that you have stayed in remission (i.e. not relapsed into depression.) Also did you have any follow up or maintenance treatments?
Chloe. When I initially got my treatments, I wasn't that bad, but was sick of all the years of not have any emotions and feeling flat.
Regarding tapering off antiepileptics, I really think you should try to get down to 3mg ativan or equivalent. You don't want to go through the stress of the treatments and not have them work because you were on too much valium.
Regarding your fear of seeing the doctor, try taking a valium or ativan before you talk to him. That always helps me in those kinds of situations.
Bye
Dave
Posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 20:26:40
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 20:17:08
Something comes to mind about the relapse medications after reading the posts, and literature.
The key drug is lithium. Then you add some antidepressants. A tricyclic, an SSRI, and maybe and atypical (example wellbutrin). That way all the bases are covered. If you only add one type of AD, and it is the wrong type, then the patient relapses and the ECTs are a waste of time. My Pdoc recently mentioned something like that to me. Now things are making more sense. Just thinking out loud.
Bye,
Dave
Posted by Chloe on July 23, 2002, at 22:22:46
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 20:17:08
Thanks Dave, Mimi
You have been very kind and helpful.
and all his info is invaluable.
I will try to call NAMI in the morning...Diprivan does seem the way to go. Brevitol is a barbituate type anesthesia, and can give an awful hangover effect.
So Dave1, you were not an inpatient for your treatments? Would you mind elaborating on your experience, only if you are comfortable...
Chloe
Posted by Mimi on July 24, 2002, at 10:27:08
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Dave1 on July 23, 2002, at 20:17:08
> Thanks Mimi, KateKite, Chloe for your quick responses.
>
> Mimi. I was wondering how long it has been since your initial ECT treatments that you have stayed in remission (i.e. not relapsed into depression.) Also did you have any follow up or maintenance treatments?
>
> Chloe. When I initially got my treatments, I wasn't that bad, but was sick of all the years of not have any emotions and feeling flat.
>
> Regarding tapering off antiepileptics, I really think you should try to get down to 3mg ativan or equivalent. You don't want to go through the stress of the treatments and not have them work because you were on too much valium.
>
> Regarding your fear of seeing the doctor, try taking a valium or ativan before you talk to him. That always helps me in those kinds of situations.
>
> Bye
>
> DaveDave 1,
I have been in remission since Nov.2001. It was discussed but I did not have maintenance ECT treatments. I have been fine since, using 5 meds to remain stable.When and how many ECT treatments did you have? Would you do it again?
Mimi
Posted by Dave1 on July 24, 2002, at 20:22:18
In reply to Re: ECT info needed! » Dave1, posted by Mimi on July 24, 2002, at 10:27:08
Hi,
I tried some ECTs in the hospital a couple of years ago with some good results. I didn't get much follow up though and relapsed in about a month.
I guess I would do ECT again if I thought I wouldn't relapse. Mimi your post helped me some with that. Also if any one else in this segment has had ECT, I'd love to hear how you did after the initial treatments. Whether you stayed better or went back into a depression, etc.
Thanks alot,
Dave
Posted by Chloe on July 27, 2002, at 20:09:17
In reply to Re: ECT info needed!, posted by Mimi on July 22, 2002, at 10:20:18
> Chloe,
> I had ECT last fall. I was so depressed that I wasn't eating and was losing weight. My history of depression goes back 30 years with mild bouts of hypomania in the spring. As a teen I was severely anorexic. Prior to ECT I had vowed never to have it, but most of the meds did nothing for my almost catatonic depression and suicidality. After 9 sessions of ECT, I left the hospital joking and I have been fine for 9 months, taking maintenance Seroquel, Celexa, Nortryptiline, Lithobid, and Buspar.
> Hope this helps, MimiMimi,
Would you mind emailing privately? I have a few questions that I would like to ask you about this subject. I would be so grateful. My address is
Centtuar@aol.com
But, I will understand if you don't write. No pressure!
Chloe
Posted by Mimi on July 30, 2002, at 18:35:32
In reply to Re: ECT: to mimi, posted by Chloe on July 27, 2002, at 20:09:17
Hi Chloe,
I tried to e-mail you yesterday (Monday). Did it go through? I was having some problem with the e-mail for some unknown reason.
Let me know.
MimiChloe,
> > I had ECT last fall. I was so depressed that I wasn't eating and was losing weight. My history of depression goes back 30 years with mild bouts of hypomania in the spring. As a teen I was severely anorexic. Prior to ECT I had vowed never to have it, but most of the meds did nothing for my almost catatonic depression and suicidality. After 9 sessions of ECT, I left the hospital joking and I have been fine for 9 months, taking maintenance Seroquel, Celexa, Nortryptiline, Lithobid, and Buspar.
> > Hope this helps, Mimi
>
> Mimi,
> Would you mind emailing privately? I have a few questions that I would like to ask you about this subject. I would be so grateful. My address is
> Centtuar@aol.com
> But, I will understand if you don't write. No pressure!
> Chloe
>
>
Posted by Chloe on July 30, 2002, at 18:39:25
In reply to Re: ECT and Chloe, posted by Mimi on July 30, 2002, at 18:35:32
Oh, geez
I put the wrong email address.
I am so sorry, centtaur@aol.com
Hope that works. So glad you responded.
Chloe
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