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Posted by BarbaraCat on May 13, 2002, at 13:50:52
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Night 1, posted by BarbaraCat on May 12, 2002, at 0:34:29
Geez, is it this simple? Raise the dosage of Remeron enough to kick in the NE and all the dopey dozey stuff is gone? I'm on day 3 after taking 56.25 mg (1-1/4 45mg tab). Woke up after 7 hours of technocolor episodic dream-laden sleep just rarin' to go. No sludgy hour to wake up, I just could not stay in bed another minute, put on my workout video and went to it. Almost like I have too much energy and need to burn it off, but thank God, with the motivation and focus to do so.
I had a bit of extra trouble falling asleep, like the neurons of my eyes were firing more rapidly. It also feels like my brain has 'woken up', so I'm enjoying the pleasure of just thinking about things again. But if waking isn't the problem it used to be, then I can live with a few less hours (and hours and hours) of non-restoritave sleep.
This almost feels hypomanic, but without the frazzled disorganization of that state. I have much more energy, more drive and focus, and feel so much more curious and open to what's going on OUTSIDE of me than dwelling on the sad inside of me.
I don't want to push this level up for at least another week because going manic is not part of my plan. But really folks, this feels like a completely different med and so far I like it very much. I'm going to take Iago's advice and ask my pdoc for Xanax instead of the Klonopin. I'd like to have a soothing safety net if needed and Klonopin doesn't have that soothing quality for me anymore. More later... - Barbara
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 13, 2002, at 13:53:00
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 2 » BarbaraCat, posted by Iago Camboa on May 13, 2002, at 4:42:47
Posted by Bob on May 13, 2002, at 22:46:02
In reply to Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom!, posted by BarbaraCat on May 13, 2002, at 13:50:52
Barbara (or anyone else on Remeron):
I assume you don't have any type of OCD or rumination problems? I've heard that Remeron doesn't help with that much.
Bob
Posted by JohnX2 on May 13, 2002, at 22:56:25
In reply to Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom!, posted by BarbaraCat on May 13, 2002, at 13:50:52
> Geez, is it this simple? Raise the dosage of Remeron enough to kick in the NE and all the dopey dozey stuff is gone? I'm on day 3 after taking 56.25 mg (1-1/4 45mg tab). Woke up after 7 hours of technocolor episodic dream-laden sleep just rarin' to go. No sludgy hour to wake up, I just could not stay in bed another minute, put on my workout video and went to it. Almost like I have too much energy and need to burn it off, but thank God, with the motivation and focus to do so.
>
> I had a bit of extra trouble falling asleep, like the neurons of my eyes were firing more rapidly. It also feels like my brain has 'woken up', so I'm enjoying the pleasure of just thinking about things again. But if waking isn't the problem it used to be, then I can live with a few less hours (and hours and hours) of non-restoritave sleep.
>
> This almost feels hypomanic, but without the frazzled disorganization of that state. I have much more energy, more drive and focus, and feel so much more curious and open to what's going on OUTSIDE of me than dwelling on the sad inside of me.
>
> I don't want to push this level up for at least another week because going manic is not part of my plan. But really folks, this feels like a completely different med and so far I like it very much. I'm going to take Iago's advice and ask my pdoc for Xanax instead of the Klonopin. I'd like to have a soothing safety net if needed and Klonopin doesn't have that soothing quality for me anymore. More later... - BarbaraHi Barbara,
I'm glad to hear the Remeron increase worked so fast.
I wish you continued success!Best Wishes,
John
Posted by Iago Camboa on May 14, 2002, at 5:35:02
In reply to Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom!, posted by BarbaraCat on May 13, 2002, at 13:50:52
Hi there Barb,
'Allahu akbar', this is Arabic and means 'God is great' and is what those guys say when something really good pops up upon their lives...
Yes, my dear, it can be just that simple. Sounds like it started up just good enough on you. But we both want that change in mood to last and grow firm like a rock don't we, precious girl?
This is why I burn of curiousity to learn what comes next, so please keep us all posted and tell us about all that is going on. (It is a keen pleasure to read you 'even' (or should I say 'especially'?) when I have to look up in the dictionary your sometimes 'difficult' but always charming words).Wish you all good.
Yours sincerely,
Iago> Geez, is it this simple? Raise the dosage of Remeron enough to kick in the NE and all the dopey dozey stuff is gone? I'm on day 3 after taking 56.25 mg (1-1/4 45mg tab). Woke up after 7 hours of technocolor episodic dream-laden sleep just rarin' to go. No sludgy hour to wake up, I just could not stay in bed another minute, put on my workout video and went to it. Almost like I have too much energy and need to burn it off, but thank God, with the motivation and focus to do so.
>
> I had a bit of extra trouble falling asleep, like the neurons of my eyes were firing more rapidly. It also feels like my brain has 'woken up', so I'm enjoying the pleasure of just thinking about things again. But if waking isn't the problem it used to be, then I can live with a few less hours (and hours and hours) of non-restoritave sleep.
>
> This almost feels hypomanic, but without the frazzled disorganization of that state. I have much more energy, more drive and focus, and feel so much more curious and open to what's going on OUTSIDE of me than dwelling on the sad inside of me.
>
> I don't want to push this level up for at least another week because going manic is not part of my plan. But really folks, this feels like a completely different med and so far I like it very much. I'm going to take Iago's advice and ask my pdoc for Xanax instead of the Klonopin. I'd like to have a soothing safety net if needed and Klonopin doesn't have that soothing quality for me anymore. More later... - Barbara
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 14, 2002, at 11:38:57
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom! » BarbaraCat, posted by Bob on May 13, 2002, at 22:46:02
Bob,
I've never been dx'd with OCD but as far as rumination, when going through a depressed episode I tend to ruminate excessively. Can't get a thought out of my head, dwelling on past events, excessive worry about the future. I can't say that Remeron has helped with any of that since I'm not actively 'depressed', however it's always a moment-to-moment challenge to overcome a tendency to worry and obsess about bad things happening. I honestly don't know if that's a personality quirk, OCD, or just a normal reaction to an out of balance, screwed up world. I seem to remember that Zoloft helped alot with the worrying, but on Zoloft I didn't give much of a hoot about anything, which was why I wanted off of it.> Barbara (or anyone else on Remeron):
>
> I assume you don't have any type of OCD or rumination problems? I've heard that Remeron doesn't help with that much.
>
> Bob
Posted by Bob on May 14, 2002, at 13:34:24
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom! » BarbaraCat, posted by Iago Camboa on May 14, 2002, at 5:35:02
> Hi there Barb,
>
> 'Allahu akbar', this is Arabic and means 'God is great' and is what those guys say when something really good pops up upon their lives...
> Yes, my dear, it can be just that simple. Sounds like it started up just good enough on you. But we both want that change in mood to last and grow firm like a rock don't we, precious girl?
> This is why I burn of curiousity to learn what comes next, so please keep us all posted and tell us about all that is going on. (It is a keen pleasure to read you 'even' (or should I say 'especially'?) when I have to look up in the dictionary your sometimes 'difficult' but always charming words).
>
> Wish you all good.
> Yours sincerely,
> Iago
>
Barbara:I have to agree with Iago here. I am extremely pleased to hear that you got an immediate and positive response to your increase in the Remeron dosage. It is heartening. However, we must all remain vigilant, and see if the response develops into a dependable condition. I hope to hear from you in 1 week, 1 month, etc., and I want to hear good things!
Bob
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 14, 2002, at 15:52:06
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom! » BarbaraCat, posted by Iago Camboa on May 14, 2002, at 5:35:02
>(It is a keen pleasure to read you 'even' (or should I say 'especially'?) when I have to look up in the dictionary your sometimes 'difficult' but always charming words).
>
> Wish you all good.
> Yours sincerely,
> Iago
>You mean words like 'smooch'? Well, a smooch to you, my friend.
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 14, 2002, at 16:43:56
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom! » Iago Camboa, posted by Bob on May 14, 2002, at 13:34:24
Hi folks, and thanks for all your encouragement and good words. Today, not so good. One of our cats, our littlest 8 month old got hurt last night, torn up and bleeding. Probably another animal. I can be philosophical and realistic about it -- cats going outdoors are vulnerable, it's part of life, at least he survived and will mend, he probably instigated it anyway. But it really affected me, seeing such an innocent joy-filled little spark of life whom I love so much suffering and in pain. This formerly little bouncing happy critter barely able to walk, wariness and fear instead of that pure delight and trust in a kitten's (or child's) eyes.
It brought back so forcefully what I try to defend myself against, which is the sadness and fear in this world, this existence that is so hard to bear sometimes. The fear that anything I open my heart up to will be ripped away, and it drives home that old hypervigilence and mistrust. It brings back memories of my own difficult and dangerous childhood with a very disturbed father and how innocence is so often betrayed. So I didn't get much sleep, had dreams where all life and goodness was in threat, and woke up feeling zonked out, tired and depressed.
I'm just trying to be with sad feelings that are just as prevalent today, for everyone it seems, as they were for a sad little girl of many years past. Even though I consider myself a survivor and very strong and resourceful, there are things that really hit hard and bring me way down. Those things trigger a fear that the Universe is ultimately a dangerous and unfriendly place, under the control of a mad Diety and then I get scared and don't recognize peace or goodwill anymore.
This has to be healed in a way that drugs can only support. I don't want real and valid grief to be ignored and masked, but I'm counting on my meds to keep it contained and not let it go spiralling out of control into despair. So maybe better news tomorrow. It always gets better, but you never quite trust that advice when darkness is all that seems real. - Barbara
Posted by Ritch on May 14, 2002, at 21:58:14
In reply to Remeron increase - Day 4. A sad one., posted by BarbaraCat on May 14, 2002, at 16:43:56
> Hi folks, and thanks for all your encouragement and good words. Today, not so good. One of our cats, our littlest 8 month old got hurt last night, torn up and bleeding. Probably another animal. I can be philosophical and realistic about it -- cats going outdoors are vulnerable, it's part of life, at least he survived and will mend, he probably instigated it anyway. But it really affected me, seeing such an innocent joy-filled little spark of life whom I love so much suffering and in pain. This formerly little bouncing happy critter barely able to walk, wariness and fear instead of that pure delight and trust in a kitten's (or child's) eyes.
>
> It brought back so forcefully what I try to defend myself against, which is the sadness and fear in this world, this existence that is so hard to bear sometimes. The fear that anything I open my heart up to will be ripped away, and it drives home that old hypervigilence and mistrust. It brings back memories of my own difficult and dangerous childhood with a very disturbed father and how innocence is so often betrayed. So I didn't get much sleep, had dreams where all life and goodness was in threat, and woke up feeling zonked out, tired and depressed.
>
> I'm just trying to be with sad feelings that are just as prevalent today, for everyone it seems, as they were for a sad little girl of many years past. Even though I consider myself a survivor and very strong and resourceful, there are things that really hit hard and bring me way down. Those things trigger a fear that the Universe is ultimately a dangerous and unfriendly place, under the control of a mad Diety and then I get scared and don't recognize peace or goodwill anymore.
>
> This has to be healed in a way that drugs can only support. I don't want real and valid grief to be ignored and masked, but I'm counting on my meds to keep it contained and not let it go spiralling out of control into despair. So maybe better news tomorrow. It always gets better, but you never quite trust that advice when darkness is all that seems real. - Barbara
Barb,Just an observation, but you seem to have reactive type depressive symptoms. I wonder if you might be better off on an MAOI like phenelzine or tranylcypromine or something like that. (I think I would) Just wondering. I doubt if you can mix Remeron and MAOI's. I can't remember anyone posting anything about that.
Mitch
Posted by Sarahmarie on May 14, 2002, at 22:01:17
In reply to Remeron increase - Day 4. A sad one., posted by BarbaraCat on May 14, 2002, at 16:43:56
> Hi folks, and thanks for all your encouragement and good words. Today, not so good. One of our cats, our littlest 8 month old got hurt last night, torn up and bleeding. Probably another animal. I can be philosophical and realistic about it -- cats going outdoors are vulnerable, it's part of life, at least he survived and will mend, he probably instigated it anyway. But it really affected me, seeing such an innocent joy-filled little spark of life whom I love so much suffering and in pain. This formerly little bouncing happy critter barely able to walk, wariness and fear instead of that pure delight and trust in a kitten's (or child's) eyes.
>
> It brought back so forcefully what I try to defend myself against, which is the sadness and fear in this world, this existence that is so hard to bear sometimes. The fear that anything I open my heart up to will be ripped away, and it drives home that old hypervigilence and mistrust. It brings back memories of my own difficult and dangerous childhood with a very disturbed father and how innocence is so often betrayed. So I didn't get much sleep, had dreams where all life and goodness was in threat, and woke up feeling zonked out, tired and depressed.
>
> I'm just trying to be with sad feelings that are just as prevalent today, for everyone it seems, as they were for a sad little girl of many years past. Even though I consider myself a survivor and very strong and resourceful, there are things that really hit hard and bring me way down. Those things trigger a fear that the Universe is ultimately a dangerous and unfriendly place, under the control of a mad Diety and then I get scared and don't recognize peace or goodwill anymore.
>
> This has to be healed in a way that drugs can only support. I don't want real and valid grief to be ignored and masked, but I'm counting on my meds to keep it contained and not let it go spiralling out of control into despair. So maybe better news tomorrow. It always gets better, but you never quite trust that advice when darkness is all that seems real. - BarbaraSorry, about your cat -- it is really hard on us when something happens to our animals. I have a dog and cat and had another cat over year ago who died suddenly. I was devastated.
You need to feel the sad feelings when there is really something to feel sad about. However, it sounds like the boost with your Remeron is helping. Take care. SarahMarie
Posted by fairnymph on May 15, 2002, at 1:14:02
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom! » BarbaraCat, posted by Bob on May 13, 2002, at 22:46:02
Actually, Remeron CAN work for OCD, though it did not help me, unfortunately...
See:
Koran LM, Quirk T, Lorberbaum JP, Elliott M. Mirtazapine treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder. J Clin Psychopharmacol. 2001 Oct;21(5):537-9.(I actually participated in this specific study)
~fairnymph
> Barbara (or anyone else on Remeron):
>
> I assume you don't have any type of OCD or rumination problems? I've heard that Remeron doesn't help with that much.
>
> Bob
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 15, 2002, at 1:19:52
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 4. A sad one. » BarbaraCat, posted by Ritch on May 14, 2002, at 21:58:14
> Barb,
>
> Just an observation, but you seem to have reactive type depressive symptoms. I wonder if you might be better off on an MAOI like phenelzine or tranylcypromine or something like that.What are these MAOI's? I'm not familiar with them as typical ones used in the USA. MAOI's are the one class of ADs I've never tried, and I'm very leery of the dietary restrictions. Aren't there newer reversable ones that that are more forgiving?
One other (probably crucial) point in all this is that my mail order pharmacy didn't get my lithium prescription refilled for over a week and I ran out during this time. I think some of my earlier hypomanic symptoms were due to this - recall the dancing for hours a few nights ago, needing less sleep, life is dazzzzzling. I become like an over-reactive fuse during these times and the scales are easily tipped. I just received my pills and started taking them again this afternoon, so even though this may add new variables to the *research* data, the lithium seems to be a necessary parameter.
Posted by Iago Camboa on May 15, 2002, at 6:34:17
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 4. » Ritch, posted by BarbaraCat on May 15, 2002, at 1:19:52
Hi Barb and you'all,
I think all contributions (Bob's, Mitch's, SarahMarie's, Fairnymph's, etc.) from your friends should be acknowledged here and thanked but I fear we risk to do more harm than good to the patient with the excess of medicine. We've got to win this war with our actual troops and other material, rather than beginning it all afresh with a new army (that is to say another AD, be it a MAOI, TCA, SSRI or other): it is neither economical nor reasonable at all. All the more right as we know the patient (you!) has indeed begun responding well to the reinforcement of the Rem's dose!
[Let it be said here between brackets that if I fall gravely ill I hope my wife will have the good sense to call in a single doctor to take care of me, because if she gets three doctors instead they will kill me for sure before they can agree on the most adequated treatment for my (supposed) illness...]
> I just received my pills and started taking them again this afternoon, so even though this may add new variables to the *research* data, the lithium seems to be a necessary parameter.
Here I agree 100%. To remove the lithium now would only add to the 'problem'.
> Sorry, about your cat -- it is really hard on us when something happens to our animals. I have a dog and cat and had another cat over year ago who died suddenly. I was devastated.
>
> You need to feel the sad feelings when there is really something to feel sad about. However, it sounds like the boost with your Remeron is helping. Take care. SarahMarieSarah is right, yes. And you don't look any bit more depressed this 4th day at all. I'm sorry about the kitten too but those are resourceful beasts: he will recover in a while if it is not already done as I write this down.
> I'm just trying to be with sad feelings that are just as prevalent today, for everyone it seems, as they were for a sad little girl of many years past. Even though I consider myself a survivor and very strong and resourceful, there are things that really hit hard and bring me way down. Those things trigger a fear that the Universe is ultimately a dangerous and unfriendly place, under the control of a mad Diety and then I get scared and don't recognize peace or goodwill anymore.
I'd rather think of a mischievous impish child-Deity for whom all the Universe is a matter of laugh, mockery and derision...
> So maybe better news tomorrow. It always gets better, but you never quite trust that advice when darkness is all that seems real. - Barbara
This is positive speech indeed, my friend. Go ahead and take care.
> You mean words like 'smooch'? Well, a smooch to you, my friend.
I meant words like 'smooch', yes! A tender one to you too.
Yours,
Iago
Posted by Ritch on May 15, 2002, at 10:13:22
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 4. » Ritch, posted by BarbaraCat on May 15, 2002, at 1:19:52
> > Barb,
> >
> > Just an observation, but you seem to have reactive type depressive symptoms. I wonder if you might be better off on an MAOI like phenelzine or tranylcypromine or something like that.
>
> What are these MAOI's? I'm not familiar with them as typical ones used in the USA. MAOI's are the one class of ADs I've never tried, and I'm very leery of the dietary restrictions. Aren't there newer reversable ones that that are more forgiving?
>
> One other (probably crucial) point in all this is that my mail order pharmacy didn't get my lithium prescription refilled for over a week and I ran out during this time. I think some of my earlier hypomanic symptoms were due to this - recall the dancing for hours a few nights ago, needing less sleep, life is dazzzzzling. I become like an over-reactive fuse during these times and the scales are easily tipped. I just received my pills and started taking them again this afternoon, so even though this may add new variables to the *research* data, the lithium seems to be a necessary parameter.
Barb,I haven't tried MAOI's yet either. I too, am leery about them because of my tendency to hyperrespond to medications and side effects. There is moclobemide (avail. in Canada), that doesn't have the dietary restrictions and I would love to try. There is selegiline (Eldeprenyl), which has no dietary restrictions at the recommended dosage and is available here in the US (I think it is a little pricey). Ah!, so you were without lithium for few days, heh? It could have a been a rebound withdrawal effect of the lithium. I remember when I was just taking 300mg at bedtime, and missed a dose, I definitely could tell the next day.
Mitch
Posted by Bob on May 15, 2002, at 12:10:53
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom!, posted by fairnymph on May 15, 2002, at 1:14:02
> Actually, Remeron CAN work for OCD, though it did not help me, unfortunately...
>
> See:
> Koran LM, Quirk T, Lorberbaum JP, Elliott M. Mirtazapine treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder. J Clin Psychopharmacol. 2001 Oct;21(5):537-9.
>
> (I actually participated in this specific study)
>
> ~fairnymph
>
>
How do I find that study? Is it available on the internet?
Posted by Iago Camboa on May 17, 2002, at 3:56:34
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom! » fairnymph, posted by Bob on May 15, 2002, at 12:10:53
1. 'Barbchen' is German for 'Sweet-Little-Barbara'
2. There is a German proverb that translated into English reads: 'No news, good news!'
3. Our 'ungrateful' precious dear little one is having a lot of fun below on another thread! I.
Posted by fairnymph on May 17, 2002, at 4:00:28
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom! » fairnymph, posted by Bob on May 15, 2002, at 12:10:53
> > Actually, Remeron CAN work for OCD, though it did not help me, unfortunately...
> >
> > See:
> > Koran LM, Quirk T, Lorberbaum JP, Elliott M. Mirtazapine treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder. J Clin Psychopharmacol. 2001 Oct;21(5):537-9.
> >
> > (I actually participated in this specific study)
> >
> > ~fairnymph
> >
> >
>
>
> How do I find that study? Is it available on the internet?Hmmmm. I don't believe the study is available online. You could probably get it from a library or university however. If you can't get it and are very interested, email me and I could probably get you a copy (and email it to you.
~fairnymph
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 17, 2002, at 11:31:09
In reply to 'Barbchen' dear, your friends wait your update!..., posted by Iago Camboa on May 17, 2002, at 3:56:34
Bless you, Iago. I wasn't going to post anything new until I had something to report - don't want to wear out my welcome! I did increase my dosage last night to 1 1/2 45 mg pills, so that makes it 67.5. Yay! past the 65 mg mark! I had vivid dreams last night that were actually very informative and helpful. Had a rough time waking up, probably a little worse than when I was at a lower dose. But it didn't take so long to fully wake up.
I don't know if you read the earlier post, but I had also been off the lithium for a week waiting for a refill. I feel much more centered and smooth since restarting it, not so volatile, but not so much energy or need for less sleep either. I can't say I'm feeling great. We have some financial and other concerns right now that cause alot of unease, but this has become a normal state of affairs. I'm working on just resting in the 'Now' and it's usually a pretty good place to be.
So, are you German, Iago? Somehow I don't think so. Why are you visiting this board? I guess I'd like to understand more about you, you've been such a good friend to me. - Barbara
> 1. 'Barbchen' is German for 'Sweet-Little-Barbara'
> 2. There is a German proverb that translated into English reads: 'No news, good news!'
> 3. Our 'ungrateful' precious dear little one is having a lot of fun below on another thread! I.
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 17, 2002, at 16:19:09
In reply to 'Barbchen' dear, your friends wait your update!..., posted by Iago Camboa on May 17, 2002, at 3:56:34
Some good spirit must have been whispering in my ear about increasing the Remeron dosage. It's no longer my little research trial, but being put to the test. I definitely am in need of it right now. One of my worst fears is taking place right now outside as I write this, namely the land we're surrounded by is being raped. If I had not had this extra medication for support I would be paralyzed by this. If you want to read more, I've posted a rather long explanation elsewhere on this board. Here it is:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020517/msgs/106800.html
Again, any good thoughts you all can beam my way during this time is gratefully appreciated. - Barbara
Posted by IsoM on May 18, 2002, at 1:13:13
In reply to New Update - I need that increase right now!, posted by BarbaraCat on May 17, 2002, at 16:19:09
Barbara, what about your other neighbours? Surely, there's others besides your family that object to what's being done. Are you alone in being targeted by the owner's newphew? Are you surrounded on all sides by this rape or just on one side?
Money speaks louder than anything else nowadays. I've had a friend forced to move as a new apartment block was build in front of her old place. They piled dirt almost two stories high on 'their' property but right in front of her place, blocking her view of anything. Just past her fence was this 20 foot high pile of dirt.
If you can enlist your neighbours, or perhaps some forgotten laws forbidding such development - otherwise I don't know what to offer. Any environmental group that's willing to take on such a project to protect you & the land? I'm appalled at how large, healthy trees get cut down, only to plant small ornamental trees & then have it said that more trees have been planted than used to grow - blah, blah, blah. Twisted truths that are worse than lies.
Don't give up though. Contact any environmental groups that you can think of by e-mail & ask for legal, or any other, advice they can give about your situation.
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 18, 2002, at 1:46:57
In reply to Re: New Update - I need that increase right now! » BarbaraCat, posted by IsoM on May 18, 2002, at 1:13:13
> Barbara, what about your other neighbours? ...
Sorry to interrupt, but could posts that don't have to do with medication go to Psycho-Social-Babble? Here's a link to make it easy to continue this thread there:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020517/msgs/24012.html
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by BarbaraCat on May 22, 2002, at 13:48:49
In reply to Re: Remeron increase - Day 3 Zoooom!, posted by fairnymph on May 17, 2002, at 4:00:28
First of all, thanks to all of you who have helped and encouraged me during this stressfull time with the bulldozer hell. They've stopped for now and I'm using the respite to work on my one day at a time skills.
At 75mg, I'm not noticing too much different except for the fact that I'm not freaking out over the impending property invasion. Even a few days ago at 8am when they were digging, I was pretty calm and pragmatic about it. This is a very big thing for me, so I'd have to give the increase some credit.
It's still very difficult to wake up and I seem to need 9-10 hours a night which I haven't been getting. I'm not craving food as much (well, except for dark chocolate), but haven't lost any weight either. In fact, I think I've gained some pounds recently despite exercising alot more. This is troublesome. Tomorrow I go to see the pdoc. He doesn't know I've increased the dosage yet. - Barbara
Posted by Bob on May 22, 2002, at 13:55:10
In reply to Re: Remeron increase up to 75mg and thanks! » fairnymph, posted by BarbaraCat on May 22, 2002, at 13:48:49
> First of all, thanks to all of you who have helped and encouraged me during this stressfull time with the bulldozer hell. They've stopped for now and I'm using the respite to work on my one day at a time skills.
>
> At 75mg, I'm not noticing too much different except for the fact that I'm not freaking out over the impending property invasion. Even a few days ago at 8am when they were digging, I was pretty calm and pragmatic about it. This is a very big thing for me, so I'd have to give the increase some credit.
>
> It's still very difficult to wake up and I seem to need 9-10 hours a night which I haven't been getting. I'm not craving food as much (well, except for dark chocolate), but haven't lost any weight either. In fact, I think I've gained some pounds recently despite exercising alot more. This is troublesome. Tomorrow I go to see the pdoc. He doesn't know I've increased the dosage yet. - BarbaraGood luck Barbara. Please keep us posted.
Bob
Posted by IsoM on May 22, 2002, at 20:27:42
In reply to Re: Remeron increase up to 75mg and thanks! » fairnymph, posted by BarbaraCat on May 22, 2002, at 13:48:49
Don't stress about the extra pounds, Barbara. Because you're exercising, it may be muscle that you're developing & it weighs more. Seriously, you can lose inches but gain weight from the muscle increase. That's good, as muscle burns even more calories & your overall health will be improved.
Keep us posted about the progress of your Remeron, the bulldozer, & your fight to retain your home.
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