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Posted by Cecilia on February 9, 2002, at 1:14:57
In reply to I know, I haven't got laid in 2 years!, posted by 3 Beer Effect on February 8, 2002, at 22:42:36
> I don`t think your problem in finding sex partners is due to your depression, it`s due to your attitude towards women. Cecilia
Posted by jane d on February 9, 2002, at 13:52:54
In reply to Re: Attitude to Women-3 Beer Effect, posted by Cecilia on February 9, 2002, at 1:14:57
Thanks. I wanted to say much the same thing but ended up having to delete what I wrote.
Posted by Mr. Scott on February 9, 2002, at 14:40:17
In reply to I know, I haven't got laid in 2 years!, posted by 3 Beer Effect on February 8, 2002, at 22:42:36
You're in 'the club' after 1 month which puts you in 24 times over!!
Surely you can conceal your madness enough to get laid.
I suggest you get busy. According to evolutionary theory anyways if you don't use something for a while it disappears. Like limbs becoming fins on the Whale which supposedly once lived on Earth.
Regards,
Scott
Posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 14:47:24
In reply to Thanks for responding » Cecilia, posted by jane d on February 9, 2002, at 13:52:54
No wonder it seems like men & women can come from different worlds. Women generally equate sex with love, warmth, & a relationship. And many men generally equate it with recreation & release of tension.
I agree with the women's viewpoint. If you really want good sex, men, you need to form a strong bond. Good sex without love is just an illusion. A great physical feeling at the time, but doesn't last beyond the act.
Posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 15:18:04
In reply to Some Men's Attitude Towards Women, posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 14:47:24
IsoM:
Are you male or female?
Posted by christophrejmc on February 9, 2002, at 15:34:05
In reply to Some Men's Attitude Towards Women, posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 14:47:24
> No wonder it seems like men & women can come from different worlds. Women generally equate sex with love, warmth, & a relationship. And many men generally equate it with recreation & release of tension.
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> I agree with the women's viewpoint. If you really want good sex, men, you need to form a strong bond. Good sex without love is just an illusion. A great physical feeling at the time, but doesn't last beyond the act.
Hmm, I must have bad luck. I've had both sex without love and love without sex (neither my decision) but never the two together. Perhaps it's just typical teenager stuff, but I haven't met anyone who's wanted both, male or female.I think both types of relationships can be fulfilling/unfulfilling for both partners; the key is not to mislead the other person.
Posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 15:35:57
In reply to Two years is pathetic 3 beers!! » 3 Beer Effect, posted by Mr. Scott on February 9, 2002, at 14:40:17
Scott:
Are you kidding, or being serious? How would you suggest that someone "get busy" if they are taking say... an MAOI or Tricyclic? Even most SSRIs and Effexor impair sex quite significantly at robust therapeutic doses.
For me, there was always almost a direct relationship between how sexual I felt, and how depressed I was becoming. Any drug that was effective in taking away depression, took away at the very least, my ability to have sex. Some took away both the desire and the ability. Either is unacceptable. If you have a strong desire, but cannot perform, than what good is it? It becomes a trap of frustration.
Posted by OldSchool on February 9, 2002, at 15:36:47
In reply to Some Men's Attitude Towards Women, posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 14:47:24
> No wonder it seems like men & women can come from different worlds. Women generally equate sex with love, warmth, & a relationship. And many men generally equate it with recreation & release of tension.
LOL Thats basically what sex is from the male point of view. Recreation and a release of tension AKA "getting off." Men like to get off and roll over and fall asleep. Not very romantic, but in reality its how most men are.
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> I agree with the women's viewpoint. If you really want good sex, men, you need to form a strong bond. Good sex without love is just an illusion. A great physical feeling at the time, but doesn't last beyond the act.LOL I could make a reply but Im going to hold off cause I dont want to be blocked. Id also like to say that I havent had a good sex drive in four years and its dropped off even more in the last year. Id love to be able to have "animal lust" feelings again. Ditch the romance stuff...Id just like to feel horny again for a change.
Old School
Posted by Geezer on February 9, 2002, at 16:02:18
In reply to Re: Two years is pathetic 3 beers!! » Mr. Scott, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 15:35:57
I can feel a "Redirect" coming.
Posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 16:32:55
In reply to Re: Some Men's Attitude Towards Women » IsoM, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 15:18:04
> IsoM:
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> Are you male or female?My user name throws many off which is why I chose it - non-gender names seem to be more accepted by both sides & rarely get the flakey types trying to contact me (I don't mean any one on thse forums, but the seriously flakey).
So, did you guess right? Female.
I grew up with only brothers, played at school with mostly boys, hung out at university with mostly guys, & had nothing but sons. I've gained a fairly good insight into the male mind from friends & others.
Posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 16:36:16
In reply to Re: Some Men's Attitude Towards Women, posted by christophrejmc on February 9, 2002, at 15:34:05
> > "...Hmm, I must have bad luck. I've had both sex without love and love without sex (neither my decision) but never the two together. Perhaps it's just typical teenager stuff, but I haven't met anyone who's wanted both, male or female.
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> I think both types of relationships can be fulfilling/unfulfilling for both partners; the key is not to mislead the other person."My opinion only but sex without love can leave you feeling empty. Love without sex sounds purely frustrating!
Posted by spike4848 on February 9, 2002, at 17:31:13
In reply to Re: Some Men's Attitude Towards Women » christophrejmc, posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 16:36:16
I just got out of a year relationship with a woman I loved .... sex was beautiful, passionate and I loved talking with her all night afterward! We never slept. Nardil made thing difficult ... if not impossible at times.
Spike
Posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 17:32:22
In reply to Re: Some Men's Attitude Towards Women » bob, posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 16:32:55
I always assumed you were a male on this board, until you just posted your view of what good sex is. It made me highly suspicious that you may actually be female. It is very hard for females to separate the sex act from emotional attachment etc. For males, it is not hard at all. Sex for sex's sake is very common in males. Sex may indeed be more fulfilling with care and love involved, but males simply don't need it to be horny.
Posted by spike4848 on February 9, 2002, at 17:40:09
In reply to Re: Some Men's Attitude Towards Women » IsoM, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 15:18:04
Posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 17:53:03
In reply to Re: Some Men's Attitude Towards Women » IsoM, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 17:32:22
IsoM may very well be a "Lady". I don't contend otherwise.
BTW, IsoM.... have you actually had trouble in the past with advances from male members on boards like this one?
Posted by Reneeb on February 9, 2002, at 18:14:18
In reply to Re: Attitude to Women-3 Beer Effect, posted by Cecilia on February 9, 2002, at 1:14:57
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>Wow, this is disappointing. I thought we were here to support not degrade each other!!!!
Renee
Posted by Mr. Scott on February 9, 2002, at 18:38:12
In reply to Re: Two years is pathetic 3 beers!! » Mr. Scott, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 15:35:57
> Scott:
>
> Are you kidding, or being serious? How would you suggest that someone "get busy" if they are taking say... an MAOI or Tricyclic? Even most SSRIs and Effexor impair sex quite significantly at robust therapeutic doses.
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> For me, there was always almost a direct relationship between how sexual I felt, and how depressed I was becoming. Any drug that was effective in taking away depression, took away at the very least, my ability to have sex. Some took away both the desire and the ability. Either is unacceptable. If you have a strong desire, but cannot perform, than what good is it? It becomes a trap of frustration.Of course I'm kidding... I was a little shocked at 3Beers use of such wording on a public forum. I hope I wasn't accidentally offensive..
Scott
Posted by Mr. Scott on February 9, 2002, at 18:57:10
In reply to You won't get any flak from me... » bob, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 17:53:03
Bob,
I would like to place you in charge of the new Psychobabble dating service. You can pair up nutsos with eachother. For instance two people who take Wellbutrin might want to get busy without any foreplay, while the Nardil takers who have in advance agreed to a strictly platonic relationship (not by choice of course) might make for a fitting match.
Alternatively you might want to pair up a couple where one is ADHD and one is OCD since opposites tend to attract.
I'm laughing out loud over here after sleeping all day and taking Effexor even though I'm certain I am BP II and am woried I need more mood stabilizer in my diet.
Scott
Posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 19:04:51
In reply to You won't get any flak from me... » bob, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 17:53:03
> > "...BTW, IsoM.... have you actually had trouble in the past with advances from male members on boards like this one?"
Yeah, I have. I try to keep my tone very non-gender unless I'm 'talking' with another woman. Then I don't worry about guarding what I might say or imply.
One example, when Napster first became popular, I was busy downloading lots of mp3s. Because we had a huge library of songs (over 1,400) & a very fast connection, we allowed others to upload from us. I was typing info to help one person not familiar with how it worked & he started asking questions. It was a 18 yr old kid who somehow thought he'd found his "princess". When I told him he was younger than any of my sons, he freaked, thinking I had led him on!! I showed the messages to my 19 yr old & he cracked up. He said he couldn't figure out how he ever thought that.
That was the funniest but others were annoying so I'm reluctant to give out e-mail address or say much.
Posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 19:05:34
In reply to Re: Attitude to Women-3 Beer Effect, posted by Reneeb on February 9, 2002, at 18:14:18
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> Wow, this is disappointing. I thought we were here to support not degrade each other!!!!
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> ReneeTo whom is your post directed? I don't believe I've degraded anyone.
Posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 19:08:53
In reply to Re: You won't get any flak from me... » bob, posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 19:04:51
It's not surprising to me that you would get a response like that on a board dedicated to music, but it would surprise me very much on this board. I've never seen anything like that here (at least on the medication related board).
Posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 19:09:03
In reply to Last time, IsoM is a geniune, pure Lady! (nm) » bob, posted by spike4848 on February 9, 2002, at 17:40:09
Spike, again I say - thank you so much. I just try to be careful & tactful of what I say & try to see ideas from others' viewpoint (applied empathy) - something either sex can do. :-)
Love plus sex *does* equal perfection, doesn't it? I won't settle for less.
Posted by IsoM on February 9, 2002, at 19:13:42
In reply to Re: You won't get any flak from me... » IsoM, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 19:08:53
I wouldn't expect any response like that here either, but it's just become the way I 'talk' on forums period (when I do use them). :-)
Posted by Reneeb on February 9, 2002, at 20:06:51
In reply to Re: Attitude to Women-3 Beer Effect » Reneeb, posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 19:05:34
> > >
Bob, It wasn't intended for you. I believe the name on the posting was 3 Beer Effect. It's MY opinion that you should think about who you might offend when you make comments like "The b*tch was fat".
Posted by bob on February 9, 2002, at 23:52:51
In reply to Re: Attitude to Women-3 Beer Effect » bob, posted by Reneeb on February 9, 2002, at 20:06:51
> > > >
> Bob, It wasn't intended for you. I believe the name on the posting was 3 Beer Effect. It's MY opinion that you should think about who you might offend when you make comments like "The b*tch was fat".==================================================
I don't think you'll get much arguement about your opinion on that one.
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