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Posted by Woody on June 6, 2001, at 7:16:07
It was like I was saying previously. What the dentist
does not tell you before he installs amalgam fillings
is that they continuously give off vapour. About
10-20% of that vapour goes out through your mouth.
The other 80-90% gets into your blood stream.
Of that percentage that gets into your bloodstream,
about 10-20% of that crosses the blood/brain barrier,
and gets into your pituitary gland and/or hypothalmus.
While you are young, your body is constantly manufacturing
a powerful anti-oxidant known as alpha lipoic acid.
This alpha lipoic acid laches on to the mercury
molecules in your brain and tranports them out of
your brain and back into your body. From there your
body gets rid of the mercury through your urine
and bowels. However, as we get older, our bodies
manufacture less of the alpha lipoic acid. Hence,
since the amalgam fillings are still there(and some
are even hard drilled out and replaced by others),the
brain continues to fill up with more mercury. That
is when major problems with depression and anxiety
set in. The pituitary gland & hypothalmus are saturated
with mercury molecules. I would say that most of the
people on this message board either reading or posting
have a lot of amalgams. I have met someone who worked
with the United States Park Service in Atlanta, Ga.
that somehow managed to discover that she had this problem.
She felt like she was going crazy, could not sleep, etc.
Her blood and urine levels tested high for mercury.
She had her amalgams removed and went through a detox
program. Now she is doing fine. However, a person with
amalgam illness might still have normal mercury levels
in their blood and urine. The bottom line is, if you
have mercury fillings in your teeth, then you have
mercury in your brain. Dr. Andy Cutler explains this
is his book "Amalgam Illness". He lives in Washington
State and can be reached at AndyCutler@aol.com.
Actually, Dr. Cutler uses this textbook to teach
a college course on the subject. Call it "quackwatch"
if you want to, but the problem is real. Anyone suffering
from depression should absolutely have any amalgams
removed and go through a detox program. After amalgam
removal, and while going through detox, you will find
your mercury measurements (urine tests) going through
the ceiling.
check out the following web site:
http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury
This movie was developed by the University of Calgary,
and you will need a "Quick Time" Player. I am glad I
had my amalgams removed before I saw the movie. I am not
trying to say that everyone that has problems with
depression and/or anxiety can blame it on amalgam
fillings. I myself, have a problem with depression,
but after reading Dr. Cutler's book thoroughly, he was
able to get through to me that everyone with emotional
problems needs to look at the possibility of amalgam
illness(if you have them in your teeth of course).
Take care, and if you have amalgams in your teeth,
get them taken out!! Composites or porcelain work
just fine.
Posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 6, 2001, at 22:13:31
In reply to Got silver fillings, maybe you have depession.., posted by Woody on June 6, 2001, at 7:16:07
> It was like I was saying previously. What the dentist
> does not tell you before he installs amalgam fillings
> is that they continuously give off vapour. About
> 10-20% of that vapour goes out through your mouth.
> The other 80-90% gets into your blood stream.
> Of that percentage that gets into your bloodstream,
> about 10-20% of that crosses the blood/brain barrier,
> and gets into your pituitary gland and/or hypothalmus.
> While you are young, your body is constantly manufacturing
> a powerful anti-oxidant known as alpha lipoic acid.
> This alpha lipoic acid laches on to the mercury
> molecules in your brain and tranports them out of
> your brain and back into your body. From there your
> body gets rid of the mercury through your urine
> and bowels. However, as we get older, our bodies
> manufacture less of the alpha lipoic acid. Hence,
> since the amalgam fillings are still there(and some
> are even hard drilled out and replaced by others),the
> brain continues to fill up with more mercury. That
> is when major problems with depression and anxiety
> set in. The pituitary gland & hypothalmus are saturated
> with mercury molecules. I would say that most of the
> people on this message board either reading or posting
> have a lot of amalgams. I have met someone who worked
> with the United States Park Service in Atlanta, Ga.
> that somehow managed to discover that she had this problem.
> She felt like she was going crazy, could not sleep, etc.
> Her blood and urine levels tested high for mercury.
> She had her amalgams removed and went through a detox
> program. Now she is doing fine. However, a person with
> amalgam illness might still have normal mercury levels
> in their blood and urine. The bottom line is, if you
> have mercury fillings in your teeth, then you have
> mercury in your brain. Dr. Andy Cutler explains this
> is his book "Amalgam Illness". He lives in Washington
> State and can be reached at AndyCutler@aol.com.
> Actually, Dr. Cutler uses this textbook to teach
> a college course on the subject. Call it "quackwatch"
> if you want to, but the problem is real. Anyone suffering
> from depression should absolutely have any amalgams
> removed and go through a detox program. After amalgam
> removal, and while going through detox, you will find
> your mercury measurements (urine tests) going through
> the ceiling.
> check out the following web site:
> http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury
> This movie was developed by the University of Calgary,
> and you will need a "Quick Time" Player. I am glad I
> had my amalgams removed before I saw the movie. I am not
> trying to say that everyone that has problems with
> depression and/or anxiety can blame it on amalgam
> fillings. I myself, have a problem with depression,
> but after reading Dr. Cutler's book thoroughly, he was
> able to get through to me that everyone with emotional
> problems needs to look at the possibility of amalgam
> illness(if you have them in your teeth of course).
> Take care, and if you have amalgams in your teeth,
> get them taken out!! Composites or porcelain work
> just fine.Hi Woody,
This amalgam thing is starting to concern me;
I asked my dentist about a month ago about my
my silver fillings and he told me I had nothing
to worry about because the mercury is in an
alloy form. Now I am beginning to question
my former dentist. Are crowns made of silver
too? I am seeing a dentist this Saturday; he
happens to be very "anti-silver". I will talk
with him about my concerns.
Thanks for the post,
Glenn
Posted by Sulpicia on June 7, 2001, at 1:28:05
In reply to Re: Got silver fillings, maybe you have depession.. » Woody, posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 6, 2001, at 22:13:31
> >
> This amalgam thing is starting to concern me;
> I asked my dentist about a month ago about my
> my silver fillings and he told me I had nothing
> to worry about because the mercury is in an
> alloy form. Now I am beginning to question
> my former dentist. Are crowns made of silver
> too? I am seeing a dentist this Saturday; he
> happens to be very "anti-silver". I will talk
> with him about my concerns.
> Thanks for the post,
> Glenn
Glenn,
before you do anything, please read the rest of the
story:
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html
You need to make decisions about your health based on as much info
as possible.
And FWIW, chelation, Woody's detoxification treatment, can kill you.
I hope I'm not offending you -- I spend a great deal of time at a forum
for mom's of kids with ADHD [I'm the grown-up with it!] and I can't tell
you how many times I see wild, frightening, and unsubstantiated posts.
And frankly, what Woody claimed couldn't be true because according to
the last few posts I read on my forum, we are all dying from aspartamine poison, or caffeine, or soy,
or yeast infections.
Well we aren't. The plain truth is that mental health problems can be a bitch
to diagnose and treat -- and even Dr. Bob admits that good help is hard to find.If you do your homework and research this issue thoroughly, and still believe
you suffer from mercury toxicity, go to YOUR OWN doctor and have him test you.
Be well,
S.
Posted by Miragee on June 7, 2001, at 16:49:21
In reply to Re: Got silver fillings, maybe you have depession.. » Woody, posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 6, 2001, at 22:13:31
Hi Glenn,
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20010605/msgs/65500.html
The above is the URL for my previous post on this question. This is some of what I said in that post, in case you missed it.
Mercury amalgam fillings can be a possible culprit in some illness, especially if a person has mercury amalgam fillings and nickle/silver crowns and other mixtures of metal in their mouth. (Batteries are made of dissimilar metals.)
Many of the medical practices that began more than 100 years ago have since been replaced with better or safer procedures. Why the American Dental Association holds on to this antiquated procedure, when we have space-age composites (that even LOOK better) to use instead, I do not know. Perhaps it is because of possible liability issues.
Now that there is an alternative to mercury fillings, no one should subject themselves to the potential toxicity. This was taken from a recent newspaper article:
A Vancouver, British Columbia, apartment complex was evacuated and
condemned in April after a dentist died inhaling toxic vapors while
engaging in his at-home hobby of fooling around with his large
collection of mercury. [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation News, 4-18-01]
Some people will never have problems with their mercury amalgam fillings. However, other people might consider having them removed and replaced with composite. At the very least, if anyone needs to have a mercury amalgam filling repaired, they should have it replaced with the safer, and more attractive tooth-colored composite.Nine years ago, I had my fillings replaced with composite. I also had my nickle/silver crowns replaced with porcelain/gold. I felt better afterwards.
>
> Hi Woody,
>
> This amalgam thing is starting to concern me;
> I asked my dentist about a month ago about my
> my silver fillings and he told me I had nothing
> to worry about because the mercury is in an
> alloy form. Now I am beginning to question
> my former dentist. Are crowns made of silver
> too? I am seeing a dentist this Saturday; he
> happens to be very "anti-silver". I will talk
> with him about my concerns.
> Thanks for the post,
> Glenn
> > It was like I was saying previously. What the dentist
> > does not tell you before he installs amalgam fillings
> > is that they continuously give off vapour. About
> > 10-20% of that vapour goes out through your mouth.
> > The other 80-90% gets into your blood stream.
> > Of that percentage that gets into your bloodstream,
> > about 10-20% of that crosses the blood/brain barrier,
> > and gets into your pituitary gland and/or hypothalmus.
> > While you are young, your body is constantly manufacturing
> > a powerful anti-oxidant known as alpha lipoic acid.
> > This alpha lipoic acid laches on to the mercury
> > molecules in your brain and tranports them out of
> > your brain and back into your body. From there your
> > body gets rid of the mercury through your urine
> > and bowels. However, as we get older, our bodies
> > manufacture less of the alpha lipoic acid. Hence,
> > since the amalgam fillings are still there(and some
> > are even hard drilled out and replaced by others),the
> > brain continues to fill up with more mercury. That
> > is when major problems with depression and anxiety
> > set in. The pituitary gland & hypothalmus are saturated
> > with mercury molecules. I would say that most of the
> > people on this message board either reading or posting
> > have a lot of amalgams. I have met someone who worked
> > with the United States Park Service in Atlanta, Ga.
> > that somehow managed to discover that she had this problem.
> > She felt like she was going crazy, could not sleep, etc.
> > Her blood and urine levels tested high for mercury.
> > She had her amalgams removed and went through a detox
> > program. Now she is doing fine. However, a person with
> > amalgam illness might still have normal mercury levels
> > in their blood and urine. The bottom line is, if you
> > have mercury fillings in your teeth, then you have
> > mercury in your brain. Dr. Andy Cutler explains this
> > is his book "Amalgam Illness". He lives in Washington
> > State and can be reached at AndyCutler@aol.com.
> > Actually, Dr. Cutler uses this textbook to teach
> > a college course on the subject. Call it "quackwatch"
> > if you want to, but the problem is real. Anyone suffering
> > from depression should absolutely have any amalgams
> > removed and go through a detox program. After amalgam
> > removal, and while going through detox, you will find
> > your mercury measurements (urine tests) going through
> > the ceiling.
> > check out the following web site:
> > http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury
> > This movie was developed by the University of Calgary,
> > and you will need a "Quick Time" Player. I am glad I
> > had my amalgams removed before I saw the movie. I am not
> > trying to say that everyone that has problems with
> > depression and/or anxiety can blame it on amalgam
> > fillings. I myself, have a problem with depression,
> > but after reading Dr. Cutler's book thoroughly, he was
> > able to get through to me that everyone with emotional
> > problems needs to look at the possibility of amalgam
> > illness(if you have them in your teeth of course).
> > Take care, and if you have amalgams in your teeth,
> > get them taken out!! Composites or porcelain work
> > just fine.
Posted by Glenn Fagelson on June 7, 2001, at 23:54:07
In reply to Re: Got silver fillings, maybe you have depession.. » Glenn Fagelson, posted by Sulpicia on June 7, 2001, at 1:28:05
> > >
> > This amalgam thing is starting to concern me;
> > I asked my dentist about a month ago about my
> > my silver fillings and he told me I had nothing
> > to worry about because the mercury is in an
> > alloy form. Now I am beginning to question
> > my former dentist. Are crowns made of silver
> > too? I am seeing a dentist this Saturday; he
> > happens to be very "anti-silver". I will talk
> > with him about my concerns.
> > Thanks for the post,
> > Glenn
> Glenn,
> before you do anything, please read the rest of the
> story:
> http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mercury.html
> You need to make decisions about your health based on as much info
> as possible.
> And FWIW, chelation, Woody's detoxification treatment, can kill you.
> I hope I'm not offending you -- I spend a great deal of time at a forum
> for mom's of kids with ADHD [I'm the grown-up with it!] and I can't tell
> you how many times I see wild, frightening, and unsubstantiated posts.
> And frankly, what Woody claimed couldn't be true because according to
> the last few posts I read on my forum, we are all dying from aspartamine poison, or caffeine, or soy,
> or yeast infections.
> Well we aren't. The plain truth is that mental health problems can be a bitch
> to diagnose and treat -- and even Dr. Bob admits that good help is hard to find.
>
> If you do your homework and research this issue thoroughly, and still believe
> you suffer from mercury toxicity, go to YOUR OWN doctor and have him test you.
> Be well,
> S.
Dear Sulpicia,
Thank you for your kind and helpful advice!
I will look into it some more. Thanks!
Glenn
Posted by blackjack on June 8, 2001, at 3:20:44
In reply to Got silver fillings, maybe you have depession.., posted by Woody on June 6, 2001, at 7:16:07
There is the small matter of the fact that drilling out amalgam fillings to remove them will vaporize some of the mercury and give you a larger dose than you would get from leaving them in...
Sorry, this whole thing doesn't add up. The symptoms of depression do not match those of chronic mercury poisoning. You don't see the profound neuropathy or degradation of gum tissue. Mercury poisoning was common enough because of occupational exposure until early in this century that we have a pretty good understanding of the syndrome.
We know that Huggins used fraudulant methods to support his theory, diagnosed patients as having mercury poisoning even if they had no amalgam fillings, and his dental license was revoked in 1996. This makes me very wary of believing anything he has to say, especially when it is contrary to the evidence of numerous studies.
I general, I am deeply skeptical of any claim that there is a single cause of a wide range of vague, chronic, seemingly unrelated symptoms.
Posted by Zo on June 9, 2001, at 2:31:54
In reply to Got silver fillings, maybe you have depession.., posted by Woody on June 6, 2001, at 7:16:07
Having your "silver" fillings changed to gold (high noble metals) is worthwhile for anyone to do. Mercury is, well. . .mercury!
But I wouldn't want anyone to get their hopes up that this is some kind of cure for depression. It may be a factor, but it is *not* a cure. My depression continued unabated for five more suicidal years until Wellbutrin was released (not that that was the end of my med story.)
Wish it were otherwise, but at least for me, the answer just wasn't that simple. Seems like it ought to be, mercury's so toxic -- but it's not. Sorry.
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