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Posted by Victoria on May 13, 2001, at 19:32:08
I posted a Wellbutrin success story here and now can't find it. I saw another posting from ANN NY saying that Dr. Bob is taking successes off the boards. No wonder all I can find here are horror stories. Time to go elsewhere. I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
Posted by Joy on May 13, 2001, at 20:10:10
In reply to Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Victoria on May 13, 2001, at 19:32:08
I don't believe that is true. What would be the point. I've posted several positives about Prozac with no problems. Dr. Bob is always fair as far as I can tell. It's just that most people inquire as to problems with their medication.
Joy> I posted a Wellbutrin success story here and now can't find it. I saw another posting from ANN NY saying that Dr. Bob is taking successes off the boards. No wonder all I can find here are horror stories. Time to go elsewhere. I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
Posted by sl on May 13, 2001, at 21:44:16
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Joy on May 13, 2001, at 20:10:10
Although, that'd explain why my stuff seems to vanish so often. It was mostly positives about Wellbutrin. Or maybe it was a coincidence. Something to keep an eye open to... *shrug*
sl
> I don't believe that is true. What would be the point. I've posted several positives about Prozac with no problems. Dr. Bob is always fair as far as I can tell. It's just that most people inquire as to problems with their medication.
> Joy
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> > I posted a Wellbutrin success story here and now can't find it. I saw another posting from ANN NY saying that Dr. Bob is taking successes off the boards. No wonder all I can find here are horror stories. Time to go elsewhere. I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 13, 2001, at 23:29:29
In reply to Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Victoria on May 13, 2001, at 19:32:08
> I posted a Wellbutrin success story here and now can't find it.
Did you look in the archives?
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20010403/msgs/59141.html
> I saw another posting from ANN NY saying that Dr. Bob is taking successes off the boards.
I don't think I saw that. If it's true, please let me know which post it is.
> No wonder all I can find here are horror stories. Time to go elsewhere. I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
Best wishes,
Bob
Posted by Victoria on May 14, 2001, at 0:52:52
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob is not editing out SUCCESSES, posted by Dr. Bob on May 13, 2001, at 23:29:29
Wow, maybe the WellB irritability factor is kicking in eh? :-)
Thanks Dr. Bob, I guess I didn't look in the right place (I used the search engine. Ann NY definitely has a post regarding an Effexor post that she says wasn't here, but maybe she did the same thing?)
Well, perhaps "PyschoBabble" covers it...at least for me. :-)Tory
Posted by stjames on May 14, 2001, at 1:31:50
In reply to Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Victoria on May 13, 2001, at 19:32:08
> I posted a Wellbutrin success story here and now can't find it. I saw another posting from ANN NY saying that Dr. Bob is taking successes off the boards. No wonder all I can find here are horror stories. Time to go elsewhere. I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
james here....
In the future, I think it would be better if you asked first if something were true. It will save you from making assumptions and taking action till you have the facts.
James
Posted by Ann NY on May 14, 2001, at 1:58:21
In reply to Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Victoria on May 13, 2001, at 19:32:08
Victoria and All:
Sorry if I somehow contributed to this confusion.Victoria, I think I was talking about my post:
Effexor: My positive experience Ann NY 5/11/01
?It is the first of a new thread immediately following: Re: Questions about Remeron and Bipolar illness SalArmy4me 5/11/01
or you could do a ctr-F and search my name.
Posted by Victoria on May 14, 2001, at 10:27:49
In reply to lets get real, please, posted by stjames on May 14, 2001, at 1:31:50
I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
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> james here....
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> In the future, I think it would be better if you asked first if something were true. It will save you from making assumptions and taking action till you have the facts.
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> James
Funny, I thought thats what I did. Notice the question mark in my subject line and the use of the words "IF it is true"Like I said, perhaps the search engine is not comprehensive? ---again a question
Really, I feel badly, Dr. Bob is an awesome guy to put up this site and he must do a ton of work to keep it going. I should have realized his sincerity. My apologies to anyone I may have offended.
Posted by vince on May 14, 2001, at 11:04:57
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob is not editing out SUCCESSES, posted by Dr. Bob on May 13, 2001, at 23:29:29
It's the drug companies that spy on this board.
They edit out success stories of the compition.
And please don't call me a paranoid schizophrenic because I don't want to have to find a paranoid schizophrenic board.
Vince
Posted by stjames on May 14, 2001, at 13:32:08
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob is not editing out SUCCESSES, posted by vince on May 14, 2001, at 11:04:57
> It's the drug companies that spy on this board.
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> They edit out success stories of the compition.James here....
Only Bob can do this, please, enought allready !
James
Posted by Joy on May 14, 2001, at 14:13:59
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob is not editing out SUCCESSES, posted by stjames on May 14, 2001, at 13:32:08
This whole thread is hilarious!
Joy> > It's the drug companies that spy on this board.
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> > They edit out success stories of the compition.
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> James here....
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> Only Bob can do this, please, enought allready !
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> James
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 14, 2001, at 18:06:01
In reply to Missing SUCCESSES!? » Victoria, posted by Ann NY on May 14, 2001, at 1:58:21
> Victoria, I think I was talking about my post:
> Effexor: My positive experience Ann NY 5/11/01
> ?I didn't see anything there about posts being deleted, did I miss something?
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 14, 2001, at 18:08:42
In reply to Re: lets get real, please, posted by Victoria on May 14, 2001, at 10:27:49
> Like I said, perhaps the search engine is not comprehensive? ---again a question
The search engine is not up-to-the-minute. It's not apparent if you just use the quick search, but if you go to "search with options", it tells you which posts are included.
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 14, 2001, at 18:24:52
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob is not editing out SUCCESSES, posted by vince on May 14, 2001, at 11:04:57
> It's the drug companies that spy on this board.
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> They edit out success stories of the compition.Please don't start false rumors about how this board is run, thanks.
Bob
PS: Any follow-ups regarding this, if not redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration, may be deleted.
Posted by Ann NY on May 15, 2001, at 2:33:06
In reply to Re: Missing SUCCESSES!? » Ann NY, posted by Dr. Bob on May 14, 2001, at 18:06:01
> > Victoria, I think I was talking about my post:
> > Effexor: My positive experience Ann NY 5/11/01
> > ?
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> I didn't see anything there about posts being deleted, did I miss something?
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> Bob
I have no idea how my name got involved in this. I just pointed out my "sucess story" post that some seemed to think was deleted. I've referred to it in my other posts and suggest Effexor users read it, but I've never said it was deleted.I hope this ends all the confusion.
I do agree with Joy, this tread is really funny. (but not to offend anyone - I do what it is like to go through a true paranoid spell)
Posted by JohnL on May 15, 2001, at 5:43:16
In reply to Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Victoria on May 13, 2001, at 19:32:08
> I posted a Wellbutrin success story here and now can't find it. I saw another posting from ANN NY saying that Dr. Bob is taking successes off the boards. No wonder all I can find here are horror stories. Time to go elsewhere. I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
Dr Bob does not edit out success stories. A bit of psychosis would be needed to assume he does.
Posted by Elizabeth on May 15, 2001, at 7:18:12
In reply to Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Victoria on May 13, 2001, at 19:32:08
> I posted a Wellbutrin success story here and now can't find it. I saw another posting from ANN NY saying that Dr. Bob is taking successes off the boards. No wonder all I can find here are horror stories. Time to go elsewhere. I feel kinda betrayed if it is true.
Don't believe everything you hear! This sounds like a pretty bizarre claim to me. Although there are a lot of horror stories -- that's the nature of a board where people come looking for support -- one does see sucess stories here as well.
-elizabeth
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 15, 2001, at 12:59:37
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by JohnL on May 15, 2001, at 5:43:16
> Dr Bob does not edit out success stories. A bit of psychosis would be needed to assume he does.
First, I think we've resolved this issue, so further follow-ups, if any, should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration.
Second, please be careful about implying that others might be psychotic. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Cateb on May 20, 2001, at 2:23:12
In reply to Redirect: Dr. Bob is editing out SUCCESSES!?, posted by Dr. Bob on May 15, 2001, at 12:59:37
The recent postings that have pointed out all the "horror stories" have me thinking that I should take some time to post what *is* working for me, and working well. It's Zoloft. It's like my best friend, and has given me the fortitude to do things with my life that I never had the courage to do before.
Other than Zoloft pooping out during post-partum, where I got caught up in adding too many other meds which I've now stopped, It's been a miracle for me. It's given me a life where I can ride waves I could never ride before. It gives me perspective, it enables me to be unflappable, to retain my sense of humor and warmth, and just roll with the punches that life brings. I can see things in shades of grey with the medication: everything doesn't have to be binary -- either awful or great, and I can live with it that way. That's the perspective part.
I left my stable, but boring, job at a large corporation to take a big risk joining a high-flying internet services company and went from a mid-level staffie to running all of ops for hundreds of people, then got promoted within 4 months to be the managing partner of an office for this company with revenue responsibility for over $40million. My income tripled. Yet my stress level lessened because I was having a better time, learning more, better utilized, challenged.
I had no illusions. I took that job because of two things. I had a great drug and a great nanny. Since then I've lost the job because of the economy and moved on to a new one. Little less responsibility, same pay though. I have to commute to NYC from Boston to do the work, and my husband is home with the kids. As I said, great drug, great nanny!!
Recently, when I was trying to sort out the other medications I was on that I shouldn't have been, this board and the people on it were a life *saver* to me. You guys are awesome. And Dr. Bob, thanks for making this site possible.
Cateb.
Posted by SalArmy4me on May 20, 2001, at 7:04:21
In reply to A success story on Zoloft, posted by Cateb on May 20, 2001, at 2:23:12
Good story...how long did it take for your Zoloft to work? 'cause I've been on it for a month and haven't felt any results.
Posted by Cateb on May 20, 2001, at 17:13:53
In reply to Re: A success story on Zoloft » Cateb, posted by SalArmy4me on May 20, 2001, at 7:04:21
Hi, Sal etc, How much are you taking? I found that I was able to handle a full dose quickly (unlike, say, what people experience with Serzone) and thus was able to note relief at around a month or five weeks. Here's some more salient details.
I started on 50mg and worked up to 75 mg within two months. As of my second child (when it pooped out) I'm on 100mg. I'm female, weigh about 145.
I read somewhere on this board that everyone has superior and inferior matches for drugs (maybe it was Cam W?). Zoloft was clearly a superior match for me. Before this my doctor tried Paxil and I was instantly incapacitated by migraines to the point of vomiting and extreme agitation so I got back off it within 10 days. Other than the bits of queasiness you get when going on any AD Zoloft gave me no other side effects. I haven't even had that much of a problem with sexual side effects (note I say *that much*, I do need to use powers of concentration and willpower more but I can get there).
> Good story...how long did it take for your Zoloft to work? 'cause I've been on it for a month and haven't felt any results.
Posted by SalArmy4me on May 20, 2001, at 19:44:39
In reply to Re: A success story on Zoloft » SalArmy4me, posted by Cateb on May 20, 2001, at 17:13:53
I've been taking 400 mg for a month now. I seem to be able to tolerate huge quantities of drugs. But I don't feel any effects. But that's not the only drug I take. I take desipramine, zyprexa, neurontin, lamictal, and pindolol. Maybe I should just get ECT and get this thing over with. None of these drugs work no matter how long or how much I take of them.
Posted by Victoria on May 20, 2001, at 21:33:50
In reply to A success story on Zoloft, posted by Cateb on May 20, 2001, at 2:23:12
Wow, thanks Cateb, that was great to hear. I am hoping to someday do the same sorts of things. I am currently in law schol, hoping to do transactional work or go executive. Glad to hear that you can function at that level on these meds. I am going to talk to my doctor about Zoloft or Prozac. (Though effexor also seems interesting, but scary)
Thanks for your story though, it really helps.
Posted by Jackster on May 21, 2001, at 1:45:49
In reply to A success story on Zoloft, posted by Cateb on May 20, 2001, at 2:23:12
> The recent postings that have pointed out all the "horror stories" have me thinking that I should take some time to post what *is* working for me, and working well. It's Zoloft. It's like my best friend, and has given me the fortitude to do things with my life that I never had the courage to do before.
>
> Other than Zoloft pooping out during post-partum, where I got caught up in adding too many other meds which I've now stopped, It's been a miracle for me. It's given me a life where I can ride waves I could never ride before. It gives me perspective, it enables me to be unflappable, to retain my sense of humor and warmth, and just roll with the punches that life brings. I can see things in shades of grey with the medication: everything doesn't have to be binary -- either awful or great, and I can live with it that way. That's the perspective part.
>
> I left my stable, but boring, job at a large corporation to take a big risk joining a high-flying internet services company and went from a mid-level staffie to running all of ops for hundreds of people, then got promoted within 4 months to be the managing partner of an office for this company with revenue responsibility for over $40million. My income tripled. Yet my stress level lessened because I was having a better time, learning more, better utilized, challenged.
>
> I had no illusions. I took that job because of two things. I had a great drug and a great nanny. Since then I've lost the job because of the economy and moved on to a new one. Little less responsibility, same pay though. I have to commute to NYC from Boston to do the work, and my husband is home with the kids. As I said, great drug, great nanny!!
>
> Recently, when I was trying to sort out the other medications I was on that I shouldn't have been, this board and the people on it were a life *saver* to me. You guys are awesome. And Dr. Bob, thanks for making this site possible.
>
> Cateb.
That's really good to hear. I often look on this board for info and find myself overwhelmed by the bad stuff. I've just started Zoloft myself so am glad to hear a success story on it.Jackie.
Posted by Cateb on May 21, 2001, at 3:26:40
In reply to Re: A success story on Zoloft » Cateb, posted by SalArmy4me on May 20, 2001, at 19:44:39
Sal: Wow, what a cocktail! Ironically, the reason I felt compelled to honor how good I felt on Zoloft alone was because I was coming off a much larger mix of drugs myself (tho nothing compared to thou): 300 mg of Wellbutrin, 400mg of Topamax and Xanax PRN to control massive racing thoughts and churning/agitated cycling. And when I discovered Zoloft alone again, it was like finding my old friend: just plain wonderful.
I've recently posted other discussions about this, too. My quest had started all because of the post-partum poop-out. And once the doctors became convinced I was Bipolar II, because I was suffering from migraines, doctors thought that the anti seizure meds might kill two birds with one stone. I should note that the first course of action my pdoc had taken, to up the dose of Zoloft, did *not* work because that's when sexual side effects set in (at either 125 or 150, don't remember). Also, I triggered huge shopping binges -- some kind of specific mania I had never had, especially as a practicing Quaker.
I can relate to how it feels to get your hopes up so often over meds, between my depression and having weekly three-day migraines since the age of 19. I am so sorry to hear of your bitter luck. I've learned a lot by reading your many informed posts since coming to this board a few months ago. I'm sorry you learned all this stuff without the payoff...that just stinks. I hope something presents itself as a solution that is a compromise between ECT and profound suffering. Or maybe ECT is the right solution; I don't know enough to say since I only have the '50's stereotype in my mind and that could be right or wrong. I've heard (and think you're implying) that in the end, there's nothing more effective and predictably reliable in treating depression. In any case, I'll continue to watch for your posts. Good luck. -- Cateb
> I've been taking 400 mg for a month now. I seem to be able to tolerate huge quantities of drugs. But I don't feel any effects. But that's not the only drug I take. I take desipramine, zyprexa, neurontin, lamictal, and pindolol. Maybe I should just get ECT and get this thing over with. None of these drugs work no matter how long or how much I take of them.
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