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Posted by By-Stander on March 28, 2001, at 15:58:48
A companion of mine was enduring methadone maintenance treatment for approximately 6 years, and was up to around 110 mg. daily. Every morning it was necessary to get up early & drive to the clinic for the daily dosage. She once remarked that it was the same as getting a daily "fix", thereby maintaining her addictive behavior. She was enslaved to this clinic, unable to take vacations without permission, supervised urine tests on a regular basis (imagine the embarrassment), once she was chastised for taking prescription pain killers after a severe dental procedure! Well enough was enough and she decided it was time to end this ordeal. She asked to be detoxed 1 mg per day Monday through Friday every week. Eventually she was at 5 mg a day & was notified that she would be down to 0 on Friday. As the dosage got lower, the withdrawal symptoms worsened. Well a trip to a doctor & 2 prescriptions later, she is fine.
No withdrawal symptoms.
No methadone.
If you feel trapped by your clinic I suggest you ask your personal physician to have Klonopin and Xanax prescritions ready for you when you finally reach a zero mg daily dosage, this combination will eliminate the withdrawal symptoms. It may cause a prescription drug dependency but you will no longer be a slave to the clinic.
Posted by stjames on March 28, 2001, at 17:02:01
In reply to Methadone Detox Solution, posted by By-Stander on March 28, 2001, at 15:58:48
> If you feel trapped by your clinic I suggest you ask your personal physician to have Klonopin and Xanax prescritions ready for you when you finally reach a zero mg daily dosage, this combination will eliminate the withdrawal symptoms. It may cause a prescription drug dependency but you will no longer be a slave to the clinic.
James here....
But then you are addicted to Xanax and a slave to the docs who may or may not continue to perscribe
these meds. The better answer is "Rapid Detox" which is done under general anesthesia . Full detox with no withdrawals can be done in 8 hours.
Then you are not dependent on anything.James
Posted by By-Stander on March 30, 2001, at 8:50:22
In reply to Re: Methadone Detox Solution, posted by stjames on March 28, 2001, at 17:02:01
> > If you feel trapped by your clinic I suggest you ask your personal physician to have Klonopin and Xanax prescritions ready for you when you finally reach a zero mg daily dosage, this combination will eliminate the withdrawal symptoms. It may cause a prescription drug dependency but you will no longer be a slave to the clinic.
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> James here....
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> But then you are addicted to Xanax and a slave to the docs who may or may not continue to perscribe
> these meds. The better answer is "Rapid Detox" which is done under general anesthesia . Full detox with no withdrawals can be done in 8 hours.
> Then you are not dependent on anything.
>
> James
If you speak of receptor inhibitors, followed by Naltrexone treatments, I would not recommend them.
Only because I was familiar with someone who underwent such treatment and is now deceased, because of those procedures.
Posted by stjames on March 30, 2001, at 10:32:17
In reply to Re: Methadone Detox Solution, posted by By-Stander on March 30, 2001, at 8:50:22
> If you speak of receptor inhibitors, followed by Naltrexone treatments, I would not recommend them.
> Only because I was familiar with someone who underwent such treatment and is now deceased, because of those procedures.James here.....
Provided this procedure is done in patient at a hospital with an over night stay this is not a problem.
james
Posted by By-Stander on March 30, 2001, at 14:03:15
In reply to Re: Methadone Detox Solution, posted by stjames on March 30, 2001, at 10:32:17
> > If you speak of receptor inhibitors, followed by Naltrexone treatments, I would not recommend them.
> > Only because I was familiar with someone who underwent such treatment and is now deceased, because of those procedures.
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> James here.....
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> Provided this procedure is done in patient at a hospital with an over night stay this is not a problem.
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> jamesMy friend was in-patient. I wouldn't EVER trust that procedure.
Posted by stjames on April 1, 2001, at 20:11:15
In reply to Re: Methadone Detox Solution, posted by By-Stander on March 30, 2001, at 14:03:15
> My friend was in-patient. I wouldn't EVER trust that procedure.
James here....
This procedure carries the risk that all general anestesia does but I know some who have tried everything and are greatful for rapid detox. I do question giving someone who has an addictive personality addictive meds to get off addictive drugs as a life time solution.
james
Posted by By-Stander on April 2, 2001, at 11:38:54
In reply to Re: Methadone Detox Solution, posted by stjames on April 1, 2001, at 20:11:15
> > My friend was in-patient. I wouldn't EVER trust that procedure.
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> James here....
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> This procedure carries the risk that all general anestesia does but I know some who have tried everything and are greatful for rapid detox. I do question giving someone who has an addictive personality addictive meds to get off addictive drugs as a life time solution.
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> james
I agree that substituting one addictive substance for another is not a cure. However, my post was meant for people who felt trapped by their methadone clinic and were seeking a non life-threatening alternative.
Posted by SLS on April 2, 2001, at 14:36:57
In reply to Re: Methadone Detox Solution, posted by By-Stander on April 2, 2001, at 11:38:54
> I agree that substituting one addictive substance for another is not a cure. However, my post was meant for people who felt trapped by their methadone clinic and were seeking a non life-threatening alternative.
I am unclear as to the use of naltrexone after opiate detoxification. I understand that it will prevent or greatly reduce the euphoric effects of an opiate, but does it actually reduce the cravings? Does it foster a disinterest in taking the addictive substance? What is to prevent an addict from saying, "I feel like getting high", and to discontinue the naltrexone to accomplish that.Is naltrexone helpful only for those committed to remaining drug-free?
Thanks.
- Scott
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