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Posted by Racer on October 12, 2000, at 2:02:32
What's your handle refer to?
And while we're on the subject, you posted above that you do not consider yourself depressed. It sounded to me as though you're suffering some level of depression, and I wonder if it's something you've tried to treat?
It sounds as though you know a lot more than I about all this, but everything you've posted sounds so -- je ne sais quois... I'd hate to think that someone so stimulating had left the world of his own volition, and out of finding life "painful, boring, and I'd rather not have to go through it."
None of my business, I know, but I'm nosy, and like to extrapolate from other people's stories...
Posted by Lisa Simpson on October 12, 2000, at 6:28:10
In reply to Hey, pullmarine, you never answered my question..., posted by Racer on October 12, 2000, at 2:02:32
Hi Racer, and Pullmarine, if you're reading.
I started reading through all the notes above that Pullmarine pasted about suicide and the replies. And my very first thought after reading through it all several times was, god, if you weren't depressed before reading all this stuff, you certainly would be after!
< < ... everything you've posted sounds so -- je ne sais quois... I'd hate to think that someone so stimulating had left the world of his own volition, and out of finding life "painful, boring, and I'd rather not have to go through it." > >
And then I read the above, and I so totally agree with it. I find it truly staggering that someone with such intelligence and ... oh, I don't know the word I'm looking for... but somone who obviously has such amazing thought processes should want to relieve the world of his presence. And that there are obviously people close to him that don't seem to give a shit if he does.
I'd love to have the chance of meeting with you Pullmarine, although I know that's not possible.
I had a severe asthma attack the Christmas before last, had to be intubated, and as a result there was a period of time when there was no oxygen going to my brain, the result of which there was minor damage, and I can no longer think the way I used to be able to. I used to be a really hot PC network support analyst, but now I have to really struggle my way through technical problems which used to come easy. I wish, Pullmarine, I had your clarity of thought, and I wish there was something I could say to cheer you up that didn't sound thoughtless, wet, stupid, careless.
But oh, I feel these things and I cannot put them into words. Please excuse this scatty post.
Lisa
Posted by pullmarine on October 14, 2000, at 18:34:37
In reply to Re: ''Hey, Pullmarine''.. to Pullmarine and Racer, posted by Lisa Simpson on October 12, 2000, at 6:28:10
> Hi Lisa,
Your post was very beautiful, and I enjoyed it very much.
> < < ... everything you've posted sounds so -- je ne sais quois... I'd hate to think that someone so stimulating had left the world of his own volition, and out of finding life "painful, boring, and I'd rather not have to go through it." > >
> In reply to this paragraph, I'll paraphrase r. w. emmerson: In life, You have the choice between peace of mind or searching for the truth. Choose which you will, you can never have both.> And then I read the above, and I so totally agree with it. I find it truly staggering that someone with such intelligence and ... oh, I don't know the word I'm looking for... but somone who obviously has such amazing thought processes should want to relieve the world of his presence. And that there are obviously people close to him that don't seem to give a shit if he does.
>
Unfortunatly, too many people want me to live, which is an annoyance and a hindrance. As for the first point, I think my thought processes, which are critical, cynical, and analitical are at the basis of my hatred of the experience which people call life.> I'd love to have the chance of meeting with you Pullmarine, although I know that's not possible.
>
'L'impossible n'est pas francais' , meaning there is no reason why we couldn't meet. I actually have a dream of getting together with a whole bunch of us in an abandoned village in mexico for a couple of weeks. who knows, maybe one day i'll organize that. (or maybe a ski trip somewhere.)> I had a severe asthma attack the Christmas before last, had to be intubated, and as a result there was a period of time when there was no oxygen going to my brain, the result of which there was minor damage, and I can no longer think the way I used to be able to. I used to be a really hot PC network support analyst, but now I have to really struggle my way through technical problems which used to come easy. I wish, Pullmarine, I had your clarity of thought, and I wish there was something I could say to cheer you up that didn't sound thoughtless, wet, stupid, careless.
>
Sorry to hear about the asthma and its consequences. But you must know that the human brain is incredibly resilient at fixing itself. I've suffered from very severe damage (and so did my dad) but I gained back all my faculties (so did he), though it did take some time. While your brain is busy making new connections to make up for the lost ones, play as much scrabble and chess as you can. It really helps your brain recreate the lost connections, and develop logic.
Regarding the second point. Nothing can possibly cheer me up. I've come to accept this fact.> But oh, I feel these things and I cannot put them into words. Please excuse this scatty post.
>I thought it was one of the nicest posts I've read.
love,
JOHN
> Lisa
Posted by pullmarine on October 14, 2000, at 19:51:44
In reply to Hey, pullmarine, you never answered my question..., posted by Racer on October 12, 2000, at 2:02:32
> What's your handle refer to?
>
Handle? please explain this term.> And while we're on the subject, you posted above that you do not consider yourself depressed. It sounded to me as though you're suffering some level of depression, and I wonder if it's something you've tried to treat?
>Yes. you name it, and i've probably tried it.
and my conclusion after a 15 year battle and research. is that the meds are are a scam. that mental illness is a myth. and that life is hard and painful for everyone.
JOHN
> It sounds as though you know a lot more than I about all this, but everything you've posted sounds so -- je ne sais quois... I'd hate to think that someone so stimulating had left the world of his own volition, and out of finding life "painful, boring, and I'd rather not have to go through it."
>
> None of my business, I know, but I'm nosy, and like to extrapolate from other people's stories...
Posted by Racer on October 14, 2000, at 21:23:30
In reply to Re: Hey, pullmarine, you never answered my question..., posted by pullmarine on October 14, 2000, at 19:51:44
> > What's your handle refer to?
> >
> Handle? please explain this term.your posting handle. pullmarine. Wondering what it refers to.
Other than that, just wanting to say that I enjoy your posts, and wish you didn't find life so painful.
Posted by pullmarine on October 14, 2000, at 23:52:02
In reply to Re: Hey, pullmarine, you never answered my question... » pullmarine, posted by Racer on October 14, 2000, at 21:23:30
Pullmarine is the tittle of a song sung by Isabelle Adjani, written by serge gainsbourg.
Posted by shar on October 15, 2000, at 11:10:20
In reply to Re: Hey, pullmarine, you never answered my question..., posted by pullmarine on October 14, 2000, at 23:52:02
Pull-
You mentioned a get-together of all of us. Sounds great, a bunch of cynical/hyper/depressed/bipolar/OCD/or whatever people...I think it would be a blast.But skiing--that's so much more expensive than a villa on the coast of Mexico with blue water. Sigh. It's been a long time. And I'll need to renew my SCUBA certification. But, my passport, she's a ready.
Shar
Posted by pullmarine on October 15, 2000, at 13:28:48
In reply to Pullmarine: Coast of Mexico, Not skiing, please, posted by shar on October 15, 2000, at 11:10:20
Great. now how do we go about organizing this?
john
Posted by shar on October 15, 2000, at 22:01:33
In reply to Re: Pullmarine: Coast of Mexico, Not skiing, please, posted by pullmarine on October 15, 2000, at 13:28:48
That's a good question. I think the one with the original idea should do the bulk of the organizing. Do you have a good location in mind?
Have you been mapping hurricanes?
Shar
Posted by Lisa Simpson on October 16, 2000, at 5:27:03
In reply to Re: ''Hey, Pullmarine''.. to Pullmarine and Racer, posted by pullmarine on October 14, 2000, at 18:34:37
Hi John.
Thank you for the things you said. It cheered me up a lot!
Your ideas about playing scrabble and chess sound perfect. It's funny but I had wanted to ask someone what I could to to re-train my brain into thinking properly again. Concentrating, really, is what I have trouble doing. And scrabble and chess sound like just the thing. I'd have to learn how to play chess first, 'tho!
Getting a few of us together sounds a marvellous idea. Trouble for me is, I couldn't join in in anything expensive. And I live in the UK! However, I am in Detroit during 8/9/10/11 December. I don't know where you and the others live, but any chance of maybe just a few drinks together somewhere one evening? Then the rest of you could arrange something "bigger" between yourselves.
Love
Lisa
Posted by GLYN on October 17, 2000, at 21:19:37
In reply to Re: ''Hey, Pullmarine''.. to Pullmarine and Racer, posted by Lisa Simpson on October 16, 2000, at 5:27:03
Is the idea of getting together not discriminating against those of us with agorophobia and social anxiety disorder? :-)
Can MPD's bring a friend?
Can Bipolars change their mind and get a refund?
At least OCD's can easily retrace their steps in the snow.Sorry if my sense of humor is sick - its the only thing that keeps me sane nowadays
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