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Posted by Peg on September 1, 2000, at 20:56:01
Greetings,
I can't believe I fell into this site. It is by far the best of the web. I have so far been soaking in everyone's expertise. I apologize for the lengthy post, please forgive me.
Two years ago, I had liposuction on my abdomen. The plastic surgeon plunged through the stomach wall with the ultra sound candula and burned my small intestine and colon making 50 holes. Unaware of his error, he released me. Four days later I was ambulanced to surgery with severe peritonitis, having a lot of small intestine and my ascending colon removed.After 3 weeks in the hospital, totally dependant on morphine, I was released cold turkey. I have since been able to reduce my pain meds on my own......to Tylenol #2, and #3 plus Ultram. No matter how bad I am feeling, I can't seem to find any doctors with any compassion.Gradually I have become housebound, mostly in bed. Because I am in legal action against the plastic surgeon, all docs act suspicious of me, fearing to actively treat me. So everyone has prescribed loads of AD. I have been on Prozac w/ Wellburtin, Zoloft, Elavil,Serzone, Imipramine,Doxipin,Effexor, Remeron, Trazadone,etc. For the last 7 months I was on 80mg Prozac,300 Wellbutrin. I just quit everything last week, because I got fed up with no results. I didn't have side effects from the AD's, just no results...I have terrible insomnia, using Ambien. Docs keep trying to get me to use antihistimines for sleep, but they only wire me.
I have been to several Pdocs with no suggestions from them.
My problem is that I cannot find a doctor with the knowledge I need of proper pain meds, and AD.
The last one was very rude because he got a supeona to turn in my records from the courts. With internet access, I am finding more info than the docs.
My question......The symptoms I have had since 1998 are chronic diarrhea (10xday) fatigue, low grade fever every day, brain fog, heavy chest pressure, heart palpatations,depression. I am wondering if I am suffering from GAD. I don't feel panicky, but those symptoms do happen in anxiety. I tried Valium last week (from an old prescrip) and it did help a little I took 15mg x day for about 3 days. My head was clearer. Because of the terrible diarrhea, things run through me pretty fast. Is there a slow release Valium? Has anyone else had these symptoms?
Given my experiences, I would rather torture myself than go find another doctor. Does anyone know if Neurotin can be found overseas? So far I have been getting light Tylenol#2 from South Africa. But I would like to try Neurotin. Everytime I go to a doctor I have to face this humiliation that vanity (lipo) got me into this situation in the first place. Several doctors have even told me so. Kind of like, "serves you right" kind of attitude. It probably sounds like I have an anger issue, but I think I have put that behind me. I do get frustrated with the typical 15 minute office visit. I just received SS benefits after applying only 5 months ago. Hooray...since I am raising my 16 year old son alone.
I just want to say "Thanks" to everyone. I enjoy this site so much. It is so informative. Believe me, I know the effort it takes to reach out when you are not feeling well. Everyone here is well spoken and concerned for each other. Blessings to each of you.
Peg
Posted by LucindaLinda on September 2, 2000, at 1:59:25
In reply to Brand New Member, posted by Peg on September 1, 2000, at 20:56:01
Hi Peg,
Sounds like you have your hands full. I developed Fibromyalgia after working at a job where sexual harassment and discrimination where part of the deal. I finally walked out and filed a law suit but have been unable to work since then. No SS benefits here tho, they frown on you for getting sick from stress and harassment. I had lots of problems with my intestinal tract too, I have been taking a probiotic, herbs and eliminating foods that I have alot of trouble with, (like iceberg lettuce, milk, fried foods, most fast foods).I counted the doctors I have been to in the past 10 years and it was 17 at the last count, I finally decided to stick with the one I have now and try to educate her. I do lots of research on one problem at a time and then take the research papers I print out to her. Some doctors get really tight when you do that so I guess the ticket is to find one that will at least read what you take them.I'd get rid of the guilt too over having lipo. I bet you paid good money believing you were in capable hands? Unbelievable what some of these doctors do to people. You have my empathy, it's a testament to your strength and will that you lived thru the ordeal,keep looking, there are good doctors out there that actually want to help people.
Greetings,
> I can't believe I fell into this site. It is by far the best of the web. I have so far been soaking in everyone's expertise. I apologize for the lengthy post, please forgive me.
> Two years ago, I had liposuction on my abdomen. The plastic surgeon plunged through the stomach wall with the ultra sound candula and burned my small intestine and colon making 50 holes. Unaware of his error, he released me. Four days later I was ambulanced to surgery with severe peritonitis, having a lot of small intestine and my ascending colon removed.
Posted by Peg on September 2, 2000, at 4:24:39
In reply to Re: Brand New Member, posted by LucindaLinda on September 2, 2000, at 1:59:25
Hey, LucindaL,
I can really relate. Since the peritonitis was poisioning my blood, tissues,muscles for that week before the corrective surgery, I too contracted fibromyalgia.
My first flare came about 2 months after the surgery. So you can imagine how much of a whiner I sound like at the doctors. First I go into the gastro problems, then how all my joints ache, then the migraines.....about that time they are ready to show me the door. But they are always happy to hand out allergy samples. I can always tell what pharmaceutical companies had been visiting lately, by all the samples they offer.
One day I left their office with enough to fill a grocery bag. I felt it was like they were bribing me just to leave.
I had been on the Prozac + wellbutrin and it did help for the joint pain and migraines, but only the other hand, I didn't feel this anxiety until about 6 months after starting those two.
I don't know if I should add valium and keep taking the prozac+wellbutrin, or just only take the valium for a while. I have been searching the boards looking for alternative combos.
Yikes, I just took .25 Trazodone to be able to go to sleep....It made my eyes heavy, but threw me into a big panic attack. My heart was pounding out of my chest, couldn't breathe,head pounding.
I didn't know what to do. Everyone on these boards says that Traz is so good to get some sleep. I finally got rid of those symptoms but now I am wide awake and as it is 1:00 am....
I hate laying there trying to force myself to sleep.
I fired my Pdoc last week. But that is a whole other story. I went to a family doc about a month ago. After I explained my illness, he said "You are to sick for me to handle, you need to see specialist." Then he handed me a prescription for hydocodone. It was like a consoulation prize.
Have you tried Gluten Free Mall. I find that their products are good and very gentle to the plumbing.
About SS benefits. I had an attorney file on my behalf. They say that 50% more claims are approved that way. I paid a 25% fee on the back recovery part only so it wasn't so bad. I was real pleased with my monthly benefits. My 16 year old son will also be receiving benefits under my work history. It will be half of mine. Only until he graduates from high school.
I really couldn't have filed on my own. I am just too sick to be able to climb through the paper maze. My son takes care of me. buying groceries,running errands,taking me to the docs, plus he goes to school and works part time at JC Penneys. It is hard on him sometimes, but I have seen a new maturity in him since all this happened.
Did you know that the training that plastic surgeons get to perform liposuction is taught at a Hilton Hotel on a three day weekend? They don't tell you that beforehand.
I think your idea is good. Just find a doctor that you think you can educate. But doesn't it just get your goat after you leave their office and feel like you just treated yourself, that they were only there for their pen and prescrip pad. I just don't have the same instant respect that I used to, just because they had an MD in front of their name.
Better try to go get some sleep. I have relatives flying in tomorrow for vacation. The weather has been great = sunny and 75 degrees, and I havent' been able to enjoy it nearly enough.
Bless you for responding
Peg> Hi Peg,
> Sounds like you have your hands full. I developed Fibromyalgia after working at a job where sexual harassment and discrimination where part of the deal. I finally walked out and filed a law suit but have been unable to work since then. No SS benefits here tho, they frown on you for getting sick from stress and harassment. I had lots of problems with my intestinal tract too, I have been taking a probiotic, herbs and eliminating foods that I have alot of trouble with, (like iceberg lettuce, milk, fried foods, most fast foods).I counted the doctors I have been to in the past 10 years and it was 17 at the last count, I finally decided to stick with the one I have now and try to educate her. I do lots of research on one problem at a time and then take the research papers I print out to her. Some doctors get really tight when you do that so I guess the ticket is to find one that will at least read what you take them.
>
> I'd get rid of the guilt too over having lipo. I bet you paid good money believing you were in capable hands? Unbelievable what some of these doctors do to people. You have my empathy, it's a testament to your strength and will that you lived thru the ordeal,keep looking, there are good doctors out there that actually want to help people.
>
> Greetings,
> > I can't believe I fell into this site. It is by far the best of the web. I have so far been soaking in everyone's expertise. I apologize for the lengthy post, please forgive me.
> > Two years ago, I had liposuction on my abdomen. The plastic surgeon plunged through the stomach wall with the ultra sound candula and burned my small intestine and colon making 50 holes. Unaware of his error, he released me. Four days later I was ambulanced to surgery with severe peritonitis, having a lot of small intestine and my ascending colon removed.
Posted by Sigolene on September 2, 2000, at 5:36:14
In reply to Brand New Member, posted by Peg on September 1, 2000, at 20:56:01
I don't think that doctor don't want to help you because they think you shoudn't have done lipo.
I think it's more because your case seems to be complicated and they don't know how to help you. I know that a lot of doctors don't care, but not all. I suggest that you try to find a human one, who can admit that he/she is not infallible. There are some. Psychotherapy is also an issue for you to complete medication treatment.
> Greetings,
> I can't believe I fell into this site. It is by far the best of the web. I have so far been soaking in everyone's expertise. I apologize for the lengthy post, please forgive me.
> Two years ago, I had liposuction on my abdomen. The plastic surgeon plunged through the stomach wall with the ultra sound candula and burned my small intestine and colon making 50 holes. Unaware of his error, he released me. Four days later I was ambulanced to surgery with severe peritonitis, having a lot of small intestine and my ascending colon removed.After 3 weeks in the hospital, totally dependant on morphine, I was released cold turkey. I have since been able to reduce my pain meds on my own......to Tylenol #2, and #3 plus Ultram. No matter how bad I am feeling, I can't seem to find any doctors with any compassion.Gradually I have become housebound, mostly in bed. Because I am in legal action against the plastic surgeon, all docs act suspicious of me, fearing to actively treat me. So everyone has prescribed loads of AD. I have been on Prozac w/ Wellburtin, Zoloft, Elavil,Serzone, Imipramine,Doxipin,Effexor, Remeron, Trazadone,etc. For the last 7 months I was on 80mg Prozac,300 Wellbutrin. I just quit everything last week, because I got fed up with no results. I didn't have side effects from the AD's, just no results...I have terrible insomnia, using Ambien. Docs keep trying to get me to use antihistimines for sleep, but they only wire me.
> I have been to several Pdocs with no suggestions from them.
> My problem is that I cannot find a doctor with the knowledge I need of proper pain meds, and AD.
> The last one was very rude because he got a supeona to turn in my records from the courts. With internet access, I am finding more info than the docs.
> My question......The symptoms I have had since 1998 are chronic diarrhea (10xday) fatigue, low grade fever every day, brain fog, heavy chest pressure, heart palpatations,depression. I am wondering if I am suffering from GAD. I don't feel panicky, but those symptoms do happen in anxiety. I tried Valium last week (from an old prescrip) and it did help a little I took 15mg x day for about 3 days. My head was clearer. Because of the terrible diarrhea, things run through me pretty fast. Is there a slow release Valium? Has anyone else had these symptoms?
> Given my experiences, I would rather torture myself than go find another doctor. Does anyone know if Neurotin can be found overseas? So far I have been getting light Tylenol#2 from South Africa. But I would like to try Neurotin. Everytime I go to a doctor I have to face this humiliation that vanity (lipo) got me into this situation in the first place. Several doctors have even told me so. Kind of like, "serves you right" kind of attitude. It probably sounds like I have an anger issue, but I think I have put that behind me. I do get frustrated with the typical 15 minute office visit. I just received SS benefits after applying only 5 months ago. Hooray...since I am raising my 16 year old son alone.
> I just want to say "Thanks" to everyone. I enjoy this site so much. It is so informative. Believe me, I know the effort it takes to reach out when you are not feeling well. Everyone here is well spoken and concerned for each other. Blessings to each of you.
> Peg
Posted by Mania on September 2, 2000, at 9:15:59
In reply to Re: Brand New Member » Peg, posted by Sigolene on September 2, 2000, at 5:36:14
Thank you Peg..!!!
I forget to introduse my self on this site.I just rushed in to this messageboard without telling anobody of my self... Feeling a bit shame..!!!
------- About me..!!!------------------------
My real name is Marie and I shoised the name Mania from my disorder.
In some situations when I meet people that can't deal with mental ilness I present my self as "Marie, the mental one..." Can't help it, but I love to se the reaction.I live in the very restrictive country Sweden.
(The reasen wy my English is so bad...)
Everything has to be on prescriptions, of course you can by pills for headache, vitamines and som skincareproducts in the farmacy.Thats wy I so intressed in how to get contact with "the-easy-way-to-by-drugs-without-prescriptions".
And I really want to get a serius contact so I don't loose to much money.
Even more happy if it's in Europe...I'm 35 and I live separaded from my 5 years old doughters father.
I have/or had a relationship with a man I still in love with. It's a bit messy right now, but I hope we can clear things out. Otherwise he will stay in my heart as a tenderly, warm god friend.
Of course I have feelings so there might be a lot of tears.
(But it could never be as hard as the black bottom in my downs. This is normaly feelings that everyone have to deal with, with or without mental illness... So I will servive....)My dougther have never had any sideaffects about my disorder. She even doesn't know...
She thinks I go to the doctor because of my kidniess, that sometimes are in real pain with stones and so one.
Even if I got into a hypomanic frase 2-10 days. She just then got a mother with a lot of fantasies and I went very playfull.
Love to make things just to se her eyes glow in happyniness.I that kind of person that can feel before a real manic is growing inside me. So I can contact the hospital and tell them that I will come in for treatment. At the first time I did that the nurces in psyc-jour told me I was laying.
They sad that anybody can feel the Mania come.
I had to call them for five times before they let me come in.
(After they seen me I guess they changed there opinion)Now there is a big note in my journal that if I say I need hospital care, they can't say no. That
thanks to my doctor. By the five times I been neede hospital care I have put me there by myself.
I thinks that is because I'm a mother. And any mother have the medial feeling some how.NOTE: My doughter lives as much with her father as with me. We change every friday. This is very normal in Sweden. And it workes out real good.
And when I feel that I have to go to hospital her father is there everytime for me.
Of course I help him a alot to if he need it.--------Psycho-Bubble--------------------------
I was just like you happy to find a place were you could ask everything and get the answers from other people with disorders.
So without saying Hello to everybody I started to "BIG-BUBBLE..." Thanks Dr BOB..!!!In Sweden were I come from I have a site for Bipolar Disorders. The visitores are just don't regulary diagnosed as Bipolar Affective Disorders.
Some have Bordeline, panich disorders, psychosies, schizofrenia and all people that have pain in there souls are welcome.
But all information about the illness are about Manic-Depression.
I also have a messageboard that is very well visited. A live Java-chat.
I have a section were I tell about my life and how it felt to be diagnosed for this chronic disorder.
My visitores have my site to what it is today. They share there lifestorys and poems with the kindness to make new visitores to not feel alone and Welcome.
I've got a helpsite for students. So not just I could help them with information. I remember before, I could reach over hundred mails per week just to help students.
And I made a section for friends and the family around a human with mental illness.
Take a thought... How many friends and family is it around just ONE patient...???
The thinking is abnorm.
I'm reorganize the site at the moment. It will be on a serius TV-program in januari so I really need to fix it up.By the TV... I was asked because I've already been cooming offently in papers about everything, even PC-papers, and a kultur Radioprogram.
"Help on the net" was the theem.But before I sad yes to do the TV-program I had to sit down and really think.
"Could this hurt me or anyone around me...NO
Can I help other people if I say yes...YES
How many get a chance to read there own poems in TV...NOT MANY
How many get a chance to have there art shown in TV...NOT MANY
How many get the chance to decide everything they will show up...ALMOST NON
Does it make my ego comfortable...YEAH...WOW..!!!
Is I now sure that you have to be crazy to come somewere...ABSOLUTLY
So what to do..???
GO FOR IT!!!NOTE: I know that I will help a lot of young people to not feel so alone with there disorder. And I really fucked up with hthe media who only show up mental illness together with a totally messedup lifesituation.
I want to show you can be yong, smart, have a home and maybe a family.And the most important thing...WE ARE NOT STUPID BECAUSE OF PAIN IN OUR SOULS.
(Not to boast, I end my school with the best certificates, even though I was a "Maniac")
-------My illness---------------------------------
Somwere between Bipolar I and Bipoar II. But on my meds quite normal, hmm... not really. %)If you ones have had the wonderfull feeling of euphoria. You become addicted..
So between you allhere and me, sometimes I don't take my Absenor (antiepileptic like Tegretol).
After two days I become more allert and productive. But I know when to take my Absenor again, otherwise I can't sleep.
And it's a little bit riskey.
I know I can fly up to high to the manic stadium.But I never stop the Lithium-dose. For me Lithium was just a little bit trubbel with my stomach in the beginning. But now... nothing more than a insurence for balans in my life.
I also eat Seroxat and Remeron. The Seroxatdose is different depend on were in the mounth we are (it help me with my PMS and I eat a half pill more under that period).
I could go on and on with more non-interested info about myself. But I quit here before Dr Bob trough me out.
=)I really like this place and I wish to stay.
Mania alias Marie the mental one..!
Ps! I want adderall to stop messing with my Absenor. But Adderall and similar are totally forbidden in Sweden. The docs have to ask the gouverment if they could treat a patient with it.
Posted by Snowie on September 2, 2000, at 10:49:41
In reply to Brand New Member, posted by Peg on September 1, 2000, at 20:56:01
Peg,
I have no answers or even suggestions, but I'm so sorry for what happened to you.
Without corrective lenses, I've been legally blind for most of my life. (I started wearing glasses in the 3rd grade.) Last year (at age 42), I had LASIK eye surgery because I could never wear contacts and I had heard great things about this procedure. It was strictly for cosmetic purposes, since the glasses basically did the job. Luckily for me, the surgery went very well. However, it could also have gone the other way.
I hope you don't allow yourself to feel guilty about what happened. I think it's human nature to want to impove oneself. Your doctor committed medical malpractice in the worst way, and I hope you will be generously compensated through settlement or jury award.
Snowie
> Greetings,
> I can't believe I fell into this site. It is by far the best of the web. I have so far been soaking in everyone's expertise. I apologize for the lengthy post, please forgive me.
> Two years ago, I had liposuction on my abdomen. The plastic surgeon plunged through the stomach wall with the ultra sound candula and burned my small intestine and colon making 50 holes. Unaware of his error, he released me. Four days later I was ambulanced to surgery with severe peritonitis, having a lot of small intestine and my ascending colon removed.After 3 weeks in the hospital, totally dependant on morphine, I was released cold turkey. I have since been able to reduce my pain meds on my own......to Tylenol #2, and #3 plus Ultram. No matter how bad I am feeling, I can't seem to find any doctors with any compassion.Gradually I have become housebound, mostly in bed. Because I am in legal action against the plastic surgeon, all docs act suspicious of me, fearing to actively treat me. So everyone has prescribed loads of AD. I have been on Prozac w/ Wellburtin, Zoloft, Elavil,Serzone, Imipramine,Doxipin,Effexor, Remeron, Trazadone,etc. For the last 7 months I was on 80mg Prozac,300 Wellbutrin. I just quit everything last week, because I got fed up with no results. I didn't have side effects from the AD's, just no results...I have terrible insomnia, using Ambien. Docs keep trying to get me to use antihistimines for sleep, but they only wire me.
> I have been to several Pdocs with no suggestions from them.
> My problem is that I cannot find a doctor with the knowledge I need of proper pain meds, and AD.
> The last one was very rude because he got a supeona to turn in my records from the courts. With internet access, I am finding more info than the docs.
> My question......The symptoms I have had since 1998 are chronic diarrhea (10xday) fatigue, low grade fever every day, brain fog, heavy chest pressure, heart palpatations,depression. I am wondering if I am suffering from GAD. I don't feel panicky, but those symptoms do happen in anxiety. I tried Valium last week (from an old prescrip) and it did help a little I took 15mg x day for about 3 days. My head was clearer. Because of the terrible diarrhea, things run through me pretty fast. Is there a slow release Valium? Has anyone else had these symptoms?
> Given my experiences, I would rather torture myself than go find another doctor. Does anyone know if Neurotin can be found overseas? So far I have been getting light Tylenol#2 from South Africa. But I would like to try Neurotin. Everytime I go to a doctor I have to face this humiliation that vanity (lipo) got me into this situation in the first place. Several doctors have even told me so. Kind of like, "serves you right" kind of attitude. It probably sounds like I have an anger issue, but I think I have put that behind me. I do get frustrated with the typical 15 minute office visit. I just received SS benefits after applying only 5 months ago. Hooray...since I am raising my 16 year old son alone.
> I just want to say "Thanks" to everyone. I enjoy this site so much. It is so informative. Believe me, I know the effort it takes to reach out when you are not feeling well. Everyone here is well spoken and concerned for each other. Blessings to each of you.
> Peg
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