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Posted by Noa on February 7, 2000, at 21:32:19
I am really worried about Michael and Harry, who have both expressed a strong pull toward suicide and both of whom have weapons in their possession.
I am really really worried.
Posted by Cindy W on February 7, 2000, at 21:57:01
In reply to WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY, posted by Noa on February 7, 2000, at 21:32:19
> I am really worried about Michael and Harry, who have both expressed a strong pull toward suicide and both of whom have weapons in their possession.
>
> I am really really worried.
Noa, I share your concern...I hope they can see from the posts on this board that others care, and that they are not alone.--Cindy W
Posted by Renee N on February 7, 2000, at 23:18:11
In reply to Re: WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY, posted by Cindy W on February 7, 2000, at 21:57:01
> > I am really worried about Michael and Harry, who have both expressed a strong pull toward suicide and both of whom have weapons in their possession.
> >
> > I am really really worried.
> Noa, I share your concern...I hope they can see from the posts on this board that others care, and that they are not alone.--Cindy W
Michael and Harry,Please keep posting so, we know you are there. If you go to get help, please let us know. My thoughts and prayers are with you both. Hang on with everything you've got and then some...Renee N
Posted by harry b. on February 8, 2000, at 12:28:38
In reply to Re: WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY, posted by Renee N on February 7, 2000, at 23:18:11
> Michael and Harry,
>
> Please keep posting so, we know you are there.I'm still here, thanks. Took another day off work.
Knocked myself out last night with a combo of old
scripts and a couple of beers. Cried myself to
sleep. The serzone has me unsteady, losing my
balance, dropping things. I don't like it. Half
afraid to drive, and my job is an hour away. Why
must I, we, go thru this hell? Life is so short.
I'm 50yo, thought by this time I'd have a family,
be settled, secure. Instead I'm a lonely, sad,
disjointed man. My future seems so bleak. I really
can't face another decade or so of this.
Posted by Renee N on February 8, 2000, at 18:40:10
In reply to Re: WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY, posted by harry b. on February 8, 2000, at 13:00:36
>
> >
> > Michael and Harry,
> >
> > Please keep posting so, we know you are there.
>
> Still here. Tried to reply earlier but my post
> did not go thru, this may be duplicated. Anyway, I
> knocked myself out last night with a combo of
> old scripts and a few beers. Cried myself to sleep.
> Did not go to work again today. Hate this serzone,
> makes me wobbley, and I drop things. My job is an
> hour away and I'm half afraid to drive. I'm crying
> again, damn it. Mourning the probable loss of
> my friendship. Feeling so helpless, so worthless.
> So alone.
Harry,
I am sorry to hear you are mixing old meds, new meds and alcohol. This scares me. You have got to quit that so you can pull yourself together enough to make it through work. Keep telling yourself that your new meds take time , and you are strong enough to get through the time before they do.
As far as your friendship goes, all may not be lost. Perhaps when you back off for awhile, he will call. It may not be all you want or need, but it would be better than none at all. Are there any people at work with whom you could try being friendly? I know it's hard. Actually it's quite a joke for me to be giving this advice since I don't have friends either! I have many acqauntances, but nobody who calls, or comes over, or asks me to do things with them. I do have a husband and kids. I love them all, but my husband never wants to do anything or go anywhere, and I can't depend on my children to fulfill my social needs. I have a sister an hour away. We are very close. Do you have any relatives you can talk to?
Posted by Carolyn on February 8, 2000, at 19:05:22
In reply to Re: WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY, posted by Renee N on February 8, 2000, at 18:40:10
Michael and Harry...I know how you feel. Harry, I am glad to hear you are hanging on. I have found two things helpful in recent days...one advice passed on from a therapist thru a friend, "Perhaps you are doing the best you can right now". The other the persistent thought to just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Seems oversimplified...but I think oversimplified is all I'm up to right now. You are not alone. Keep in touch, please.
Carolyn
Posted by Cindy W on February 8, 2000, at 21:56:03
In reply to Re: WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY, posted by Carolyn on February 8, 2000, at 19:05:22
> Michael and Harry...I know how you feel. Harry, I am glad to hear you are hanging on. I have found two things helpful in recent days...one advice passed on from a therapist thru a friend, "Perhaps you are doing the best you can right now". The other the persistent thought to just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Seems oversimplified...but I think oversimplified is all I'm up to right now. You are not alone. Keep in touch, please.
> CarolynMichael and Harry, hope you are still hanging in there. BTW, Serzone takes a while to work...at first, it made me dizzy and a little unsteady and very moody (angry without any reason). THEN I woke up after about two weeks and the world was great again! --Cindy W
Posted by Anon on February 9, 2000, at 3:20:27
In reply to WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY, posted by Noa on February 7, 2000, at 21:32:19
>I'm still here, thanks. Took another day off work.
>Knocked myself out last night with a combo of old
>scripts and a couple of beers. Cried myself to
>sleep. The serzone has me unsteady, losing my
>balance, dropping things. I don't like it. Half
>afraid to drive, and my job is an hour away. Why
>must I, we, go thru this hell? Life is so short.
>I'm 50yo, thought by this time I'd have a family,
>be settled, secure. Instead I'm a lonely, sad,
>disjointed man. My future seems so bleak. I really
>can't face another decade or so of this.Hey, Harry, buck up!
Sure you can face another decade!
So you've reached the big FIVE-O ... big deal.
You got problems? Sure, but check this out:
I'm 51.
I've been married 3 times.
I've been divorced 3 times
I have 6 children, 2 of which are illegitimate, and of different colors.
In each divorce, I walked away with just the shirt on my back.
I've been busted 4 times for various reasons.
Faced 2 grand juries.
Was committed to YPI (Yale Psychiatric Clinic) in 1978 for "observation."
Had a programming partner who robbed me blind, and embezzled from my company.
Went bankrupt twice.
Been in 3 major car accidents, my fault, of course.
Lost my Dad to cancer recently.
My older brother was murdered in 1994.
My younger brother is in prison for murder for life.
My last house burned down to the ground last year.
Half my family is in the mafia, and the other half are running from the law.
I'm convinced my sister practices witchcraft.What else can I tell you?
Have I contemplated suicide, yes ... but when I think how EXCITING my life has
been, negative or otherwise, I thank God for giving me another day, another
chance to experience what it means to be human.Stay in the club, Harry ... don't disappoint the other members!
Anon
Posted by Noa on February 9, 2000, at 6:08:51
In reply to Re:WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY(WHAT? ME WORRY?, posted by Anon on February 9, 2000, at 3:20:27
> when I think how EXCITING my life has
> been, negative or otherwise, I thank God for giving me another day, another
> chance to experience what it means to be human.I can't tell if this is for real or tongue-in-cheek, but if it is for real---WOW. Where did you get this ability to look at things this way (and can you bottle it so others can benefit?)?
And, may I ask....
> My older brother was murdered in 1994.
> My younger brother is in prison for murder for life.
>
Do these two items represent the same incident?
Posted by CarolAnn on February 9, 2000, at 9:19:33
In reply to Re:WORRIED ABOUT MICHAEL AND HARRY(WHAT? ME WORRY?, posted by Noa on February 9, 2000, at 6:08:51
Anon, boy you sound like you'd be a really cool person to know!
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