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Posted by llrrrpp on June 3, 2006, at 22:20:36
Okay folks.
I know I've been on a wild ride lately. I know it's narcissistic to expect folks to read my posts here and there, but if you have, you know I've been in the swingiest of mood swings. now it's up. the kitchen is being cleaned, in anticipation of.... da-da-da dum ... baking buttertarts!!
that's right folks, I'm going to make buttertarts tonight. I will take a picture when they come out of the oven. I'll find someway to post it somewhere, I guess. I hope they are good. I have never had any buttertart, however, so I don't know the difference between "magic" and "regular". I am sure that they will taste yummy. They will bellrrrpp-y buttertarts.
Okay, I gotta go now. It's cleaning-up time and then buttertart time. yay! yay for llrrrpp-y buttertarts!!!
Posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2006, at 22:43:23
In reply to hark- is that a buttertart?, posted by llrrrpp on June 3, 2006, at 22:20:36
Lar will be at your house all the time I think he finished his last. Love Phillipa
Posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 0:53:06
In reply to Re: hark- is that a buttertart? » llrrrpp, posted by Phillipa on June 3, 2006, at 22:43:23
Ladies and Gentlemen
I present photographic evidence of a MIRACLEThis is me- ME LLRRRPP!!!
I cleaned up the kitchen
(for the first time in 4 weeks)AND
I made buttertarts
AND
I set up a website where you can view the buttertart, as well as other photographic gems from my life, including my medulla oblongata, if you wish
http://llrrrpp.tripod.com/photos/index.album?i=0
Now it is bedtime.
I have done well.I take my sleepypill, and maybe another buttertart. I've already eaten 3. but they're skinny. Next time I will make them more magical and plump.
Good Night :)
Posted by Nina78 on June 4, 2006, at 6:20:00
In reply to Buttertart UpDaTe!!, posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 0:53:06
Looks good!
Can you post the recipe? I can give you my recipe for (dutch) buttertart. Looks very different from this, but tastes good too :-)
Nina
Posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 9:23:32
In reply to recipe???, posted by Nina78 on June 4, 2006, at 6:20:00
http://www.joyofbaking.com/printpages/ButterTartsprint.html
I did not add raisins or nuts
and I did not have any cream, so I used milk
still tastes just fine.
-ll
Posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 14:16:16
In reply to Re: recipe???, posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 9:23:32
ButterTart update
I have had buttertart hot out of the oven
very good
I have had buttertart at room temperature
very good
I have had buttertart slightly chilled
very good
I have had buttertart frozen
the best. Why? because they take longer to eat. And one is less likely to overindulge on these sinful confections.
The essential problem with buttertarts is that of self-control. They taste lovely in your mouth. the flaky pastry, the creamy soft filling. the sweet, the buttery, the slightly caramelized sugars... and so- you want another. and another.
Unfortunately, the stomach does not have a great way of communicating with the mind. It relies on somewhat slower endocrine signals to communicate its growing distress. 15 minutes after the last buttertart. there are consequences. and then guilt.
What's the best medicine for guilt?
BUTTERTART!!!
Posted by Nina78 on June 4, 2006, at 14:41:35
In reply to Buttertarts in a box, with a fox; house w/ a mouse, posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 14:16:16
You want my advise?
Probably not, but I'll give it anyway!Eat them all at once!
Why?
After eating'm all at once, you will probably feel sick. There's your punishment for overindulging. Hence, no reason to feel guilty, and no reason to eat even more! And even if you did, there aren't any :)I think I just solved all your problems :) Well, the buttertart-related ones...
Posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 20:05:50
In reply to Re: Buttertarts in a box, with a fox; house w/ a mouse » llrrrpp, posted by Nina78 on June 4, 2006, at 14:41:35
ahhh... that's some interesting advice :o)
Too bad. I was going to punish myself yesterday, but today I feel like treating myself (well, kinda.)
I didn't realize that you were a newbie!
it's nice to meet you :)
I've only been on p-babble for a few weeks, but I'm having buckets of fun.
I found out about buttertarts from some nice Canadians that frequent these parts.
What part of Nederlands are you from?
I used to live in N. Germany, near Bremen. On the moors, below sea level. I was a Nordsee girl.I would love to get your recipe :)
yours,
-ll
Posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2006, at 20:11:08
In reply to Re: Buttertarts in a box, with a fox; house w/ a m » Nina78, posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 20:05:50
Bremen? That's where my only known relatives are from. I visited them around 20 yrs ago is there a bird zoo around there. I found them to ful fill my Mother's wish to meet her only realtives alive. She dies when I was l7. Married to a Dutch man. Second marriage. He took me there and we found them and met them. A little old lady and her husband a retired professor. Love Phillipa
Posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 20:30:31
In reply to Re: Buttertarts in a box, with a fox; house w/ a m » llrrrpp, posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2006, at 20:11:08
> Bremen? That's where my only known relatives are from. I visited them around 20 yrs ago is there a bird zoo around there. I found them to ful fill my Mother's wish to meet her only realtives alive. She dies when I was l7. Married to a Dutch man. Second marriage. He took me there and we found them and met them. A little old lady and her husband a retired professor. Love Phillipa
Wow, that sounds like quite a trip!
I don't know about a bird zoo, though. I think Bremen is a nice city. some cute parts.
-ll
Posted by Phillipa on June 4, 2006, at 20:38:17
In reply to Re: Buttertarts in a box, with a fox; house w/ a m » Phillipa, posted by llrrrpp on June 4, 2006, at 20:30:31
I called them from some place that had a lot of birds. Stayed in a hotel near one of the Nazi camps. I think my relative was one too. During the war. My mother's father died when she was 2 of pneumonia. It must have been World War l. Love Phillipa. Did n't do any sightseeing just met the. They had a herb garden in the back yard with a skinny house she wore long skirts and her white hair in a bun. That's all I remember we were touring Europe at the time. Favorite is Switzerland where his 92 yr old Mother lived and is millionaire sister looking at Lake Geneva from the Mountain the lake below. Love Phillipa
Posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 9:32:33
In reply to hark- is that a buttertart?, posted by llrrrpp on June 3, 2006, at 22:20:36
I found this note in the following recipe link:
"Recipe yields two dozen tarts of approximately 10,500 calories each."
......gotta be wrong
http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/butter-tarts.html
Ron
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 9:44:52
In reply to Danger: Butter Tarts!!!!, posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 9:32:33
> I found this note in the following recipe link:
>
> "Recipe yields two dozen tarts of approximately 10,500 calories each."
>
> ......gotta be wrong
>
> http://www.boutell.com/vegetarian/butter-tarts.html
>
> RonIt cannot be correct. You can't cram that much energy into that mass. Unless you are building nuclear butter tarts.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 9:53:05
In reply to Danger: Butter Tarts!!!!, posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 9:32:33
P.S.
Vegetarian???? butter tarts? Eggs and butter? I guess it depends on the vegetarian vegan lines, which I can never remember (because I am a carnivore).
BTW, if that is the Magick recipe, I want to have your child.
It's got to be a simple recipe. And I'm thinking that the quality of the vanilla is paramount. As is the grade of brown sugar. Anyway....
Lar
Posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 10:47:58
In reply to Re: Danger: Butter Tarts!!!! » ron1953, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 9:53:05
Lar:
Sure, there's NFW that can be true, even for the whole batch. But it really cracked me up!
Ron
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 11:03:12
In reply to Re: Danger: Butter Tarts!!!!, posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 10:47:58
> Lar:
>
> Sure, there's NFW that can be true, even for the whole batch. But it really cracked me up!
>
> RonWell, if that *is* the recipe for Magick butter tarts, they may well *be* nuclear.
I've had the Magick tart from more than one bakery. It is a recipe that is known, in my area. But of course, no one will share it. It's like your favourite fishing hole. It's a secret.
At a buck a tart (commercial price), I bet I could make them cheaper. And, I could find out what it is to have one, warm from the oven.
Lar
Posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 11:08:05
In reply to Re: Danger: Butter Tarts!!!! » ron1953, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 11:03:12
Not a problem. He's 24, extremely self-centered and rarely calls me. Take him! (do I sound like the typical parent of an adult child, or what?)
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 11:16:02
In reply to Oh..and as for having my child...., posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 11:08:05
> Not a problem. He's 24, extremely self-centered and rarely calls me. Take him! (do I sound like the typical parent of an adult child, or what?)
Ha ha Ha!
Lar
Posted by llrrrpp on June 5, 2006, at 12:09:23
In reply to Danger: Butter Tarts!!!!, posted by ron1953 on June 5, 2006, at 9:32:33
So here's the problem
In common parlance,
1 food calorie is actually 1 kcal, or 1000 SI calories.
so using this handy conversion,
we discover thatButtertarts have a mere 105 calories each. A healthy treeeet for all to enjoy. Chock full of vitamin triglycerides.
I think I ate more saturated fat in the last 24 hours than I did in the last month. I ate the whole recipe. Yes. it's gone. Gluttony. a cardinal sin. (All the good sins are)
I will experiment in weeks to come with acquiring the magical plumpness. I think the circles of dough need to be cut with larger diameter. this would allow for deeper wells of buttertart filling.
I would like the honest opinion of the Canadians regarding addition of raisins and nuts. Which raisins and which nuts are recommended?
Also, as I have learned recently. European butter contains slightly less moisture (water) than American butter. This creates a slightly different pastry consistency, and might affect the flake. I doubt it would affect the filling much.
My oven runs a little cool. You may have noticed that the pastry crust did not brown very much in my photographs. My next attempt will use a slightly higher oven temperature.
Also, regarding the pastry crust: typically, flaky golden brown pastry includes the addition of vegetable shortening. I purposefully chose a recipe of 100% butterfat. (classic French Pate Brisee, or short pastry). However, I am willing to try another variant, should my next attempt at baking these confections also yield a product with crust the color of my iiner forearms in the winter.
Lar, as far as having my child. Well, you can take all the supplements and phytoestrogens in the world. I still don't think you'd be able to have my child. I admire the sentiment though.
-ll
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 13:39:13
In reply to Technical Buttertart Post, posted by llrrrpp on June 5, 2006, at 12:09:23
> So here's the problem
>
> In common parlance,
>
> 1 food calorie is actually 1 kcal, or 1000 SI calories.
>
> so using this handy conversion,
> we discover that
>
> Buttertarts have a mere 105 calories each. A healthy treeeet for all to enjoy. Chock full of vitamin triglycerides.Ya, I figured about a hundred. I also realized they made a decimal error. But common sense should prevail. You'd know that one butter tart would not sufficient food for five days. 5 times 2000 cal/day.
> I would like the honest opinion of the Canadians regarding addition of raisins and nuts. Which raisins and which nuts are recommended?Butter tarts do not have nuts. Not where I'm from. They come in nut flavours, I think, just to satisfy the people who ask for them that way. Sultana raisins, pre-plumped in a bit of hot water. That's what I use.
> Lar, as far as having my child. Well, you can take all the supplements and phytoestrogens in the world. I still don't think you'd be able to have my child. I admire the sentiment though.
>
> -llI guess it was hyperbole, after all.
Lar
Posted by llrrrpp on June 5, 2006, at 14:01:29
In reply to Re: Technical Buttertart Post » llrrrpp, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 13:39:13
If buttertart *were* enough food for 5 days, I reckon I'm set for the entire summer.
Sultana raisins, preplumped in hot water. most excellent.
Further experimentation will be posted regularly
cheerio,
-ll
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 15:18:00
In reply to Re: Technical Buttertart Post » Larry Hoover, posted by llrrrpp on June 5, 2006, at 14:01:29
> If buttertart *were* enough food for 5 days, I reckon I'm set for the entire summer.
I'm already into next year.
> Sultana raisins, preplumped in hot water. most excellent.
Don't make them too gooshy. A few minutes, is all. Maybe one minute, if they're fresh. Depends on the water content to begin with. Drain well, i.e. spread them on a paper towel after you get them out of the water.
One of the things about cooking is that it's not always about time, per se. It's about knowing when they look right. That's one of the biggest challenges about writing or using a recipe, IMHO.
Lar
Posted by llrrrpp on June 5, 2006, at 15:21:52
In reply to Re: Technical Buttertart Post » llrrrpp, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 15:18:00
Yes, definitely agreed
Food is chemistry, using non-standardized ingredients. I only use the recipe for inspiration, and in this case, because I've never eaten buttertarts, so I need to have somewhere to start.
It's art, for all the senses, especially sight and touch.
I'm going to enjoy tinkering with this one.
I will let you know my progress
-ll
Posted by Deneb on June 5, 2006, at 16:20:37
In reply to Re: Technical Buttertart Post » llrrrpp, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 13:39:13
Buttertarts have more than 100 calories, at least the magic ones. I think it's closer to 300 calories/tart.
Deneb*
Posted by AuntieMel on June 6, 2006, at 14:43:40
In reply to Technical Buttertart Post, posted by llrrrpp on June 5, 2006, at 12:09:23
Do those butter tarts come with or without the heart plugs.
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