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Posted by fallsfall on November 27, 2003, at 11:44:01
In reply to Re: Today, posted by geri122 on November 27, 2003, at 11:12:25
I'm so glad to hear from you. What are your plans today? Will you have a big dinner? At home? Somewhere else? How are you feeling today?
Posted by SLS on November 27, 2003, at 12:03:26
In reply to death, posted by geri122 on November 26, 2003, at 15:09:47
> Im not afraid.. i often wonder. I hear people talking about how they want to do everything possible before they die. Why? after their gone who is really going to care.
Hi.
You are so young. There are so many years ahead of you that might be good ones - even worth waiting for - even worth working for. I'm sorry that things are so bad for you right now. The odds are in your favor that this bad time will pass. I'm sure that people would miss you. More importantly, though, is that you would miss you. I am not so much scared of dying as I am of never having lived.
Go to work. You will get there.
- Scott
Posted by Jai on November 27, 2003, at 12:09:52
In reply to Re: death, posted by SLS on November 27, 2003, at 12:03:26
Posted by Jai on November 27, 2003, at 12:41:37
In reply to great response scott thanks:-)) double smile (nm), posted by Jai on November 27, 2003, at 12:09:52
I'd like to share a story.
A begger had been sitting by the side of the road for over 30 years. One day a stranger walked by, "Spare some change?" mumbled the beggar, mechanically holding out his old cap.
"I have nothing to give you," said the stranger. Then she asked: "What's that you are sitting on?"
"Nothing," replied the beggar. "Just an old box. I have been sitting on it for as long as I can remember."
"Ever looked inside?" asked the stranger. "No," said the beggar. "What's the point? There's nothing in there."
"Have a look inside," insisted the stranger. The beggar managed to pry open the lid. With astonishment, disbelief, and elation, he saw that the box with filled with gold.*This is our true wealth...our radiant joy of Being. We are fortunate to be here in bodies on the planet. I have been where you are today and I have lived through it. There are many hurdles in this life...jumping and growing are how we change. I invite you to grow.
The alternative is so final and then what?
Just know that it will always change. ..sometimes for the better. hang on and take your time. We are all out here rooting for you.
Jai
Posted by fallsfall on November 28, 2003, at 10:26:36
In reply to maybe a story?, posted by Jai on November 27, 2003, at 12:41:37
Posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 10:33:45
In reply to Re: Today » geri122, posted by fallsfall on November 27, 2003, at 11:44:01
I went to my aunts house, it was a nice dinner. It is one of the only times i ever see my family. We all don;t get along that well but hey what can you do right?
Posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 10:36:37
In reply to Re: death, posted by SLS on November 27, 2003, at 12:03:26
I wanna live i really do.. but sometimes i feel like i am losing my mind. I don't want to feel like i don't have any control
Posted by Jai on November 28, 2003, at 10:57:40
In reply to Re: death, posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 10:36:37
> I wanna live i really do..
Good! phew...I was worried. I take these things seriously. My family actually does follow through with the threats.
but sometimes i feel like i am losing my mind. I don't want to feel like i don't have any control
>
Boy that's hard. This is where I say, "get some good solid help, a therapist, Dr." etc.
I hope you do get some help besides us here on the board. We can reach you with words and sometimes that enough but maybe right now someone with you might go further.
Jai
Posted by fallsfall on November 28, 2003, at 11:23:57
In reply to Re: Today, posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 10:33:45
Geri,
I'm glad you made it through yesterday, and that you want to live. We really want to help you to live. You don't have to be in this much pain - there are things that people can do to help you.
I know that you don't want to talk to your parents, or to have them find out how you are feeling. I don't know exactly what is going on between you and your parents - if you want to explain it a little more? You did say that you think that they think that you are just looking for "attention" a lot, but I don't remember much more than that. [I have 3 kids - girls who are 20 and 15, and a boy who is 18. I hope that they think that they could talk to me, but sometimes it is hard for parents to know what is going on with their kids.]
When you were posting on Psycho-Babble you sounded really depressed and like you wanted to find some help, but didn't know how or couldn't get the courage up to actually get the help you need. But when you started posting here you started talking about death - and that is a dangerous step in depression. I know that there have been times when I've sort of been in a trance thinking about hurting or killing myself, and sometimes it was really hard to get out of that trance - even though I didn't want to die at that time. Sometimes people end up doing things that they don't intend at times like that, and I'm just afraid that even though you really do want to live that you might not be completely in control of yourself all of the time. So I'm afraid for you - and you need to take this seriously.
If you reread the first post that I wrote to you, it talked about the time when I was completely hopeless and thought that nothing could possibly change. At that point, I looked at my life and how I was feeling and I said to myself that things couldn't get any worse. That is when I was able to start considering things that I wouldn't even think about before. If things couldn't get worse than they were, then maybe if I took some chances that had always seemed to risky to me, I wouldn't be worse off than I already was. For me, I couldn't imagine living without my therapist - she was what I thought held me together. Once I really recognize, however, that things couldn't get worse I thought that getting a different therapist couldn't be worse than how I was already feeling.
I think that a lot of your resistence to getting help is because you don't want your parents to know (if this isn't true - if there is something else that is worse than having your parents know, let me know what it is). But think about how you are feeling now. Think about how you were feeling when you wrote the first post in this thread. Would having your parents know be worse than that?
For me, particularly when I am thinking about death a lot, my mood goes up and down many times. At one point I'll be able to cook dinner and talk to my kids, but at another time all I can do is lie on my bed and think dangerous thoughts, and then I'll be OK for a while (hours? days?) and then the dangerous thoughts will come back. So even if you are feeling a little better now than you were when you started this thread, you might end up feeling that badly again (I find that night time is particularly hard for me. I'll do OK in the day, but at night it is bad). When you are feeling the worst, you probably won't have the ability to ask for help - so I'm really hoping that you will ask for some help while you are feeling a litle better. Does this make sense?
Did you find out if your friend is in town this weekend? Have you talked to her?
Did you think about an adult you could trust? Could you find anyone you could be comfortable with? If you didn't, let me know and I'll try to think of other kinds of people who we haven't thought of yet.
It really is important for you to find some support now - especially if you are feeling a little better than you were. If you start feeling really badly again you need to have that support in place to help you.
Lots of people are scared to ask for help because when you ask for help it seems so much more "real" that you have a problem. None of us want to have problems! But, I have a problem whether I talk about it or not. Ignoring it or saying it isn't a big thing doesn't make it go away. You have been significantly unhappy for at least a month now - I think that if it was just going to go away, it would have done that by now. Please let me or someone else help you.
My email is Babble FallsFall at hotmail.com. It is easier to talk through email or IM. Will you email me?
Posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 13:31:20
In reply to Re: Today » geri122, posted by fallsfall on November 28, 2003, at 11:23:57
I am feeling a little better today, and you are right, i do feel worse at night. When i am doing things i don't have to think about the truth, and everything going on in life, but at night i have nothing to do and all the time to think. I wish i could change things, i wish i could stop thinking but i can;t. YEs my friend is in town... and i plan to do something with her this weekend. Hopefully soon!
The whole thing with my parents is difficult.. i mean they are the type that don't want to admitt things.. regardless of how big it is. I can't talk to them about how i feel, for two reasons. One because they won't understand and two i am embarrassed. no matter how common or un common it is, i can't admit it. I feel like if i tel thim it will be real, i don't want it to happen.. i guess runing from it is the easiest
Posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 13:33:23
In reply to Re: death, posted by Jai on November 28, 2003, at 10:57:40
I know i need help.. and i am taking the steps, anyone that knows me knows that i have never been good with words. You don't know how many times i have planned out speeches to say to people, but every time i chicken out.
Posted by fallsfall on November 28, 2003, at 13:56:33
In reply to Re: Today, posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 13:31:20
Geri,
It really is important for you to get some other people involved.
Your parents wouldn't have to understand how you are feeling in order to help you. All they need to understand is that you are seriously depressed and you need some professional help. Do you think that they could understand that much?
I understand the embarrassed part. I have found, though, that most of the people who I have talked to about my depression are very understanding - and most of them either are taking anti-depressants or have a close friend or relative who are taking anti-depressants. Just noone talks about it, so each person sits in their own little world thinking that they are the only one. You aren't the only one.
What would your parents think? You think that they wouldn't believe you, and think you are just looking for attention. So, how could you show them that you are serious? Could you print out a couple of your posts, and show them that you have been unhappy for the whole month, and that it is getting worse (maybe show them the one about your principal checking to see if you were OK?). I would think that would convince them that you are serious.
It is hard to tell people private things about ourselves - particularly when they aren't particularly positive private things. But think about how you would feel when you would be embarrassed to tell your parents. Then think how you felt on Wednesday night (and last night??). Is the embarrassment really worse than that? Once they knew that you had an illness that needed treatment, wouldn't your embarrassment go away? Would you feel better if your friend was sitting next to you when you told them?
I really think that you should talk to a professional in the next week. I found that if I had an appointment scheduled that I could hold on until that time - and you have done a great job of holding on so far. But it really helps me to know that I will have some help a some definate time in the future.
I know you just want to pretend that it isn't real, but Geri, it is real. I'm sorry. When it gets to this point you really have to take some action. You need to talk to a counsellor, or therapist, or doctor. If you really can't ask your parents for help, then we need to think of another adult that you CAN ask for help. Who do you think you could talk to?
Do you know what would happen when you went to see someone? I can talk about what that would be like. If you knew what it was about it might not be so scary. Do you know anyone who is in therapy? Could you talk to them?
I really do know how hard this is. I remember being so scared to call my doctor, and to go to see him. But I'm really glad I did.
I'm glad you are going to see your friend. Please tell her that you are feeling so, so awful. Ask her for a hug. Then tell her that I would like her to give you an extra hug and you can know that this one is from me.
Posted by SLS on November 28, 2003, at 14:36:19
In reply to Re: death, posted by geri122 on November 28, 2003, at 10:36:37
> I wanna live i really do.. but sometimes i feel like i am losing my mind. I don't want to feel like i don't have any control
I know.
That was the thing that pissed me off the most about discovering that my illness was of biological origin. I would rather that I had a psychological problem that I could just work at to resolve than a biological disorder beyond my control to remedy.
The odds are still in your favor, though, regardless of the origin of your depression or the treatments that might be necessary. You have a great obstacle to overcome in the short-term that most people will never appreciate. For you to have posted here and choose to live another day is an indication that you have the fortitude to survive and move forward. You've made it this far. I recognize that accomplishment. I hope you do too.
- Scott
Posted by geri122 on November 29, 2003, at 9:44:08
In reply to Re: death » geri122, posted by SLS on November 28, 2003, at 14:36:19
Admitting it is the hardest thing. Right now as far as im concerned it does not exist. I can run from it and not worry, i can hide and know that no now is looking. As soo as i tell all of that wil be the opposite. YOur right making that transition is the biggest step i can take, but until im ready.. i don't know if i can really do that!
Posted by fallsfall on November 29, 2003, at 10:05:26
In reply to Re: death, posted by geri122 on November 29, 2003, at 9:44:08
Hi Geri,How was your night last night? I couldn't sleep and wondered if you were awake at 3AM.
Will you be able to see your friend today? Have you told her that you are feeling worse?
School will start up in a couple of days. Do you have a favorite teacher? My oldest daughter was very close to her French teacher - she had Mono when she was a freshman and the French teacher did some tutoring with her in the summer so she could catch up (she's a French major in college now!). My favorite teacher was the Band director. My youngest favorite is last year's World Cultures' teacher - she also had him for study hall. She doesn't really like social studies, but she and the teacher really clicked. My son liked the other French teacher - my son is now in the Army and he and the French teacher actually sent a letter back and forth. Who is your favorite teacher? The one who knows you and cares about you? Can you start thinking about maybe talking to that teacher on Monday? Just to say something like "I've been feeling really depressed, but I don't know what to do because I can't talk to my parents". Maybe your friend could come with you. Could you stay after school and talk to that teacher, or do you have to take a bus home? Sometimes if you let a teacher know during the day that you want to see them after school they can be sure to stay a little late to see you. You could even start the conversation like "I have a problem, but I don't want to tell my parents. If I tell you, can you promise not to tell my parents unless I agree?". The only time they might not be able to do that is if they think that your life is in danger (but you want to live, so that should be OK). We know that there are teachers at your school who care about you and are concerned about you, because someone went to talk to the principal. Can you guess who would have gone to talk to the principal? The teachers do want to help. They will have a better idea of what resources are available for you in your town than I would.
Thinking of you.
Posted by SLS on November 29, 2003, at 11:04:21
In reply to Re: death, posted by geri122 on November 29, 2003, at 9:44:08
> Admitting it is the hardest thing. Right now as far as im concerned it does not exist. I can run from it and not worry, i can hide and know that no now is looking. As soo as i tell all of that wil be the opposite. YOur right making that transition is the biggest step i can take, but until im ready.. i don't know if i can really do that!
I don't know if the following link will help. It is a review of the grieving process (as modeled by Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, M.D. in 1969). Although it addresses how terminally ill patients deal with their impending death, it is really applicable to many types of loss.http://pages.ivillage.com/jill_m46/betrayedspouses/id16.html
The five stages of grieving in order:
denial
anger
bargaining
depression
acceptance
There is no way that you can be expected to reach acceptance of your condition overnight.I accept that I have a neurological mental illness, but I fuse to accept the illness itself. That's what keeps me alive.
- Scott
Posted by geri122 on November 30, 2003, at 17:47:52
In reply to Re: death » geri122, posted by fallsfall on November 29, 2003, at 10:05:26
i do have a favorite teacher. but i don't have her this year. She was my teacher freshman and sophmore year. She is always there for me... she was one of the teachers that said something to my principle. I know that she cares and i know that she wants to help.. but like i said it is not that easy. I know that you guys are probally tired of hearing that but i can't change that. Im scared and i don't feel they won't understand. i will get there, i mean im trying but i will take some time.
I am taking French now. It is an ok class, i don't really like the teacher but what can i do?
Posted by geri122 on November 30, 2003, at 17:50:33
In reply to Re: death » geri122, posted by fallsfall on November 29, 2003, at 10:05:26
by the way.. i was up at 3 y do you ask
Posted by fallsfall on November 30, 2003, at 22:27:26
In reply to Re: death, posted by geri122 on November 30, 2003, at 17:50:33
I asked if you were up at 3AM because I was up at 3AM, and I was thinking about you. We could have talked online. Lots of times when people are depressed (and distressed, as you are), they don't sleep well. I wanted to know if you were sleeping well, plus I could have used the company. I wasn't asleep because I have depression and I have a lot of stress right now, so I'm not sleeping well.
I'm glad you have a favorite teacher, and that you have had her for 2 years. That helps a lot. And if you think that she was one of the teachers who went to talk to your principal that is even better. You know that this teacher cares about you and wants to help. So you know that you wouldn't be "bothering" her if you asked to talk to her, right? Teachers who end up being favorite teachers are usually not teachers just because they get paid to do that. They are teachers because they like kids and they want to help kids learn and grow up. A teacher like that would be honored to be asked to help - it will make her know that she is really making a difference to one of her students. Since you said that she was your favorite teacher, I assume that you trust her. That if she promised you something that you know that she won't go against her promise. Is that true? Do you trust her?
What if you said to her "I have a problem, and I need some help. But I can't tell anyone about this problem because I'm afraid they will tell my parents and I am NOT WILLING to let my parents know about this. So that leaves me with my problem, but no one to help me with it. If I tell you my problem can you promise that you won't tell my parents? I know that there are some things that you are required by law to report - like child abuse, or if you think that a student is planning to kill somebody. Do you know of any OTHER things that you would have to report even if you promised me that you wouldn't? So if I tell you my problem and my problem ISN"T one of those things, do you promise that you won't tell ANYONE ELSE about my problem?"
You would want to make sure that she understands that you are going to expect her to keep her promise and keep your problem from your parents and from everyone else (including the principal and other people who work in the school). And that your problem is a serious one - that's why you are letting her know that there are things that she HAS to report by law (and that law would be stronger than her promise). If she's not sure what she has to report by law (it probably varies from state to state), then don't tell her until she has figured out what things she would have to report and has told you what they are.
Be sure to say that "the student is planning to kill somebody" exactly that way. From what you have said, you are not PLANNING to kill SOMEBODY - "somebody" does includes you, by the way. You are thinking about death, that is true, and even thinking that your own death might not be such an awful thing - but that is different than having a plan. A plan would be how and when and stuff. You haven't been thinking about how and when and stuff, have you? (If you have, then we need to talk more right away. There is a reason the law is written that way).
So, if you can honestly tell her that you are not planning to kill anybody, and she promises not to tell anybody unless you say it is OK - Do you think you could talk to her? It made me feel so much better when someone else knew. Particularly when that someone actually might have some idea how to help me so I wouldn't have to be so miserable. Please talk to her. You can bring your friend if that helps, you could ask your friend to stand in the hall so she would be there if you needed her. Your teacher will understand - teachers get all sorts of training on that kind of stuff. She won't think you are faking it or stupid or anything. She'll just want you to feel better.
Please try!
Posted by geri122 on December 1, 2003, at 13:46:36
In reply to Re: death » geri122, posted by fallsfall on November 30, 2003, at 22:27:26
i thought about telling her. and yes i do trust her.
To tell you the truth ive been struggling with some stuff this weekend, the reason why i didn;t enjoy thanksgiving, (on top of all the feelings. Friday.. the day after thanksgiving... was the one year anivesary of my grandfathers death. I just didn;t want to have to deal with it you know. I mean i lost someone that was a comfort... its hard. Well also.. my neighbor, someone who has been there for me since i was born. She is really old and is not doing so well. They are selling the house.. and she is in the hospital. Everyone is leaving me.. and it suxs
Posted by LynneDa on December 1, 2003, at 14:28:48
In reply to Re: death, posted by geri122 on December 1, 2003, at 13:46:36
Hi Geri - I'm sorry to hear your T-G wasn't all that great. Anniversaries are very difficult.
When you talked about no one caring if you died - that is a very lonely feeling and I can identify with it. But, is there a side of your brain, heart or soul that knows that is not true? I ask that because I've felt that way before and almost convinced myself of it many times. Please don't let that happen to you! What are your parents like? I don't know anyone as an adult that could ever get over the death of their child. It's an impossibility. You have so much ahead of you and as you reach out for help and feel better (& you will eventually not feel like this - it is just temporary!) you will find your thoughts and attitudes changing. It will be such a relief!!!
I agree with the Fallsfall - if you have a teacher you feel connected to, please go to her to talk. Teachers really are motivated by being able to reach out to the kids and make a difference. Don't forget that you are not the only person in your school with depression or other mental challenges - it won't be the first time she's heard it :-).
I know it's hard and you have to do this in your own time. It took me almost 2 years to go to my doctor and admit I needed medication, although I'd been in counseling off and on for years . . .and I'm 40!
You have lots of hormones swirling around in you, you have probably got some sort of chemical imbalance. It could be long-term, it might be temporary. But, it is not a short-coming in you, it is out of your control to a certain extent. It's not a problem you caused. You have to take control over the things you can and going to someone who can do something concrete for you is one thing you can definitely do. You can do it quietly, without a lot of fanfare; write her a note if you can't talk to her yet. Just think about it, okay???
Hang in there and keep writing so we know you're okay :-)
~ Lynne
Posted by LynneDa on December 1, 2003, at 14:41:39
In reply to death, posted by geri122 on November 26, 2003, at 15:09:47
Hope you don't get sick of hearing from me, but I was out this weekend and didn't get in on your current thread at the beginning. I was just re-reading the earlier ones.
Here's a thought for you. Maybe the people you know now wouldn't be effected by you not being there anymore (of course I don't believe that, but I'm continuing your train of thought!), but what about all the people you don't know yet? How many people will you meet down the road at college, jobs, church or whatever activities you do? How do you know that you aren't going to impact one of their lives in the future?
The whole trust thing is a very hard subject. Getting burned by friendships and love is one of the hardest things we have to deal with as humans. But, it's not what happens to us . . . it's how we react to it that really counts and that is where you have a choice.
Here's another one of my favorite platitudes, attributed to Katharine Hepburn: As one goes through life one learns that if you don’t paddle your own canoe, you don’t move.
You can make this time in your life count, Geri. You have no idea who or what is ahead for you!
~Lynne
Posted by fallsfall on December 1, 2003, at 15:56:34
In reply to Re: death, posted by geri122 on December 1, 2003, at 13:46:36
I'm glad you are thinking about telling your teacher. I really think that you can do it in a safe way where you are controlling who finds out and when. She sounds like a great teacher - I'm sure that telling her about it will only make it easier for you. Having someone close by who knows how the system works, and who will keep an eye on you (and give you a special smile that lets you know that she's cheering you on), can be really helpful.
Did you see your friend today at school? Does she know that things are harder for you now? Dealing with these things all alone is much harder than it has to be. We call it "isolating" when all you want to do is be by yourself and not let anyone know how you are feeling. I know that when I isolate I just keep reinforcing whatever is making me depressed. When I start talking with other people (particularly people who know me) they start to point out the things that I'm thinking that don't make much sense (like that no one likes me, or that I can't do anything right).
I'm sorry about your grandfather. It sounds like you were close. Did he live in your town? Did your family have any kind of anniversary rememberance for him? If you didn't, maybe you could suggest that you do that. Maybe you go to his grave and each say something that you liked about him, or make a scrapbook out of pictures that are scattered around your house (everyone keeps their pictures that way, don't they?), or ask people to write down stories about him and put them in a book. It is very hard when someone dies who you love a lot. It takes a long time to stop feeling so sad. Babble has a whole Board on Grief. I'm not a grief expert, so I'll let other people give you advice on how to deal with that!
It sounds like you have had some really special people in your life. It must be hard to watch your neighbor doing poorly. And to think of someone else living in her house. That makes is so you can't really pretend that she's coming back. Makes things feel kind of permanent. Can you visit her in the hospital? I bet she would like nothing better than that. Maybe you could even talk to her about your depression - I bet she would understand.
Sounds like you need to find someone who can help support you through this sad time when you are losing people who you love. No one will replace them, but I bet there are some people nearby in your life who can fill a niche you didn't even know that you had. Keep reaching out.
Are you sleeping better yet? I'm still not sleeping well, but my doctor gave me some meds that help me with that so I'm not so exhausted during the day. I still have to figure out what is upsetting me so much! That's a main job for tomorrow.
Please keep in touch.
Posted by sfmom on December 1, 2003, at 18:32:36
In reply to death, posted by geri122 on November 26, 2003, at 15:09:47
> Im not afraid.. i often wonder. I hear people talking about how they want to do everything possible before they die. Why? after their gone who is really going to care.
> I sit in my room often wondering.. whose going to care when i am gone? who is really going to cry after im gone and mean it. Thats a hard thing to ask yourself. I have a hard time trusting people. I don't want to open up to them, i don't want to get burned.
> I look at everyone on my list thinking no all the way down. If i say that, then why i am here. Does it matter.. will the miss me... will they mean it? I shouldn't have to ask those questions but i do. I don't to feel like this, i shouldn't have to.
> Death... are you ready to deal with it?
Geri, believe it or not, thinking about why we are here on this earth and about death are important aspects of being a human. I know you've never met me but I can say to you in all honesty that I would miss you and I would cry and that I truly care about what happens to you.I just recently found out that when I was 14 or 15 some of my friends went to their parents and told them they were worried I might kill myself. Well, I thought about death a lot at that point in my life and may have welcomed it if it had come, but I certainly wasn't about to make it happen. Anyway, my friends' parents went to see my parents as a sort of intervention. I don't know what my parents' response would have been if I had tried to tell them what I was going through, because I never did try. But they sure as hell realized it was something big when confronted by these other people. I don't even remember this happening but I do know that my parents got me into therapy. I didn't really come out of that depression until I was 17, but it did get a whole lot better than lying awake all night and trying to picture my parents at my funeral and wondering if their tears would be real or just for show. At the time, I truly thought they would be just for show. I know now that I have my own daughter that there could be nothing worse in the world and that I would do anything for her.
I know that you are very afraid, but you've done a wonderful job of expressing yourself through your posts here. One suggestion I have is maybe you could print out your posts. Anyone who reads them will surely understand how much pain you have been in. But even if you don't show them to anyone else, plese print them out for yourself. Keep them in your journal. When you are finally able to get help for yourself, it will be helpful for you to remember what you were feeling. Also, I've read some amazing responses from some really wonderful people here, if some of those touched you, print them out and keep them in your pocket. When things get bad at school or at home you can take them out and be reminded that there are a lot of people who really do know how you feel.
I know that it can be a lot easier to talk to people when it's anonymous. Did you ever call that number that LynneDa got for you? Please call them and just see what they have to offer. They have been through this before and can help you find the kind of help you need. I'm sorry for rambling on here but I just want you to know that you are not alone and we all care very much what happens to you and want to see you healthy and happy. You can e-mail me whenever you want at lolasov@yahoo.com. If you want to talk on the phone, just e-mail me and I'll give you my number. Please let us know if there is anything we can do to help you. We are all pulling for you. Love, Lyssa
Posted by biogurl on December 1, 2003, at 20:03:25
In reply to Re: death » geri122, posted by sfmom on December 1, 2003, at 18:32:36
Geri, I just wanted to let you know that I am going to become a high-school biology teacher. I chose this because I love science but, most importantly because I love young people. Being a teenager is such a troubling time in life (I know from personal experience, I'm 23 now)and I want to be a special teacher, one that students feel that they can trust. I bet your french teacher feels this way as well. Trust her, she chose her job because she wants to help.
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