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Posted by lucy stone on July 28, 2004, at 10:47:30
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by Susan47 on July 28, 2004, at 9:32:28
Susan, I understand this perfectly. I, too, want my therapist to be more than a T to me. I beg, I plead, I rage, I manipulatate, but he won't cross his boundries. I don't have erotic feelings for him, I want his as a perfect comfortor. This is something I repeatedly do in my life, in ways that have often not been good for me. We are working it through by examining why I want it, why it enrages me that he can't give it to me, and what it would mean to me if it could. For me this work is makingly my life better. I'm not saying that you should be doing the same thing, just saying what I am doing.
Posted by pretty_paints on July 28, 2004, at 11:49:26
In reply to I'm in love with my therapist, posted by tinydancer on October 10, 2003, at 2:43:19
My main issues are to do with my mum, and the fact that I never got enough love or attention from her. However, looking back, my crushes have ALWAYS been on MEN and my MALE therapist. At school I would have a crush on usually every one of my male teachers, to varying degrees, and only very occasionally a crush on a woman teacher. Although it was mainly a 'I want them to protect me and look after me' thing, it was also sexual too. I wanted them to be sexually attracted to me, but unable to act on their feelings because I was a student. I wanted to act like the innocent young student, but at the same time know exactly what I was doing to make myself attractive to them. Anyone ever been here..?
But how does this figure with my issues with my mum? I had a great relationship with my dad, and was never abused by either of my parents, or anyone else. My mum wasnt cruel either, she was just emotionally distant and not very affectionate.
Also, is there something significant about the fact that I want to be sexually attractive to people who arnt "allowed" to reciprocate? Like, my teachers for example. I even got a crush on my doctor, who is like 60!! and very wrinkly etc! Oh dear me.
I know this isnt exactly following the main subject of these posts. I was gonna start a new thread, but I figured that since its sort of along the same lines, you guys might have some insight! I did have a crush on my last therapist, but I'm seeing a woman now. I dont feel much for her at the moment but I havent been seeing her very long. I had a dream about her the other night though and am TERRIFIED of developing feelings for her. Just because Iv been through that with teachers, and just reading your posts reminds me of how horrendously painful it can be. And I do not want to go there again!
Any help would be really appreciated!!
Posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:00:36
In reply to Re: Hi everyone, posted by Joslynn on July 28, 2004, at 9:16:08
I don't think that everyone is or turns into a a 'child' in the therapists office. Every experience is a learning experience and this is Jadah's journey at the moment and the psychiatrist's. Yes his behavior is wrong, but once again, he's just human. And like I mentioned before, he has his own problems with his marriage and is likely acting out rather than facing his problems, which is very, very common behavior that most of us exhibit at times.
I do think it's a mistake to assume that he's never done this before, just because he says it - that may or may not be true.
starlight
Posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:04:35
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by lucy stone on July 28, 2004, at 10:47:30
How does it make your life better that he's unwilling to be comforting to you?
And Susan, what are you going to do about your therapy situation? I think I mentioned to you that you might try a woman? Any thoughts on that? I switched from a man, who actually was a lot like my father and brought up a lot of anger, to a woman, who I'm able to deal with issues with without stirring up that emotion. And of course, the man violated my confidentiality, which basically, fulfilled my belief that men who appear similar to my father most likely are. I trust the woman so much more and feel safer with her. Just a thought.
starlight
Posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:07:41
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist, posted by pretty_paints on July 28, 2004, at 11:49:26
You're gonna laugh at this, but when I was in college, I had an affair with my Public Affairs professor. At first I thought he was soo sexy, powerful, smart, put together. But once I got into the affair with him, I was completely disgusted. He was wrinkly, old, and frankly disgusting. That pretty much cured me of ever wanting those types of relationships again. ICK!!!
starlight
Posted by Susan47 on July 28, 2004, at 13:23:49
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist, posted by pretty_paints on July 28, 2004, at 11:49:26
I think it's natural to want the opposite sex, (if you're heterosexual) to see you as attractive. Even to sexually desire you. And it's normal to develop crushes. Ever watched little kids? They do it all the time. We all have some of the little kid in us, too. There's nothing wrong with that.
Don't beat yourself up over those feelings.
I do have one question though; it's about power. Do you give your power away to those you feel "know" more than you do?
Just asking. What do you think?
I'm asking, because you seem to be attracted to people in power (e.g., your md) who you would not normally be attracted to.
I've seen therapists, psyciatrists, and counsellors over the years, both men and women, and this latest experience is the first in which I've developed feelings of desire.
Posted by Susan47 on July 28, 2004, at 13:30:24
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:04:35
I feel really good right now about not being in therapy. As I said, my ex-therapist helped me a great deal in the time that I did see him. I dealt with a lot of issues; and although "issues" never disappear as long as there are triggers for them, (i.e., parents, children, spouses), knowing why I have problems in some of these areas helps me deal with them.
I think it must take a lot for a therapist to drop a client; in my case, it was comforting that he had the integrity to know when he was no longer being helpful and also to do something about it. He has recommended someone else to me, but I'm not sure I'm ready to do any more emotional work right now.
I think me ex-T is a nice man and he did the right thing. Sometimes that's letting go. I didn't see it as a rejection and I hope I never do, because that would be bloody awful.
Posted by lucy stone on July 28, 2004, at 14:11:25
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:04:35
Oh, he's willing to be comforting to me and is so whenever I need it. He does it over and over, but it doesn't fill the need I have inside of me. The need I have is a fantasy of a perfect comfortor, one that will never let me down, one that never makes mistakes, one that will always be there and will make everything OK. It's not possible for a human to be like that, it's a very primative longing. He comforts me as much as any human can, but that can't fufill the fantasy. Right now I can't let the comfort I do have in my real life come in because I'm too wound up in the fantasy. I'm gradually letting go if it and no longer look for it to be fulfilled outside of his office. That's real progress for me because I'm not looking for it in other relationships and has been a huge help in my life.
Posted by JenStar on July 28, 2004, at 16:34:34
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist, posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 13:07:41
Sometimes the gap between fantasy and reality is bigger than we can (and want to!) imagine...thanks for sharing this 'crush deterrent' with us. :)
pretty paints, I know what you're talking about - getting crushes on people in some kind of authority position; liking people we shouldn't / can't have. I have done this myself (gotten mild crushes on teachers, bosses, etc.) I've tried to analyze why I do this, and here's what I came up with:
Getting crushes on these people is a sign of self-doubt and under-confidence (in me.) I see the 'authority people' (doctors, teachers, bosses) as being designated as "smart" or "worthwhile" by society. And while I don't necessarily love the person they ARE, I want them to love ME. If a person in this authority position wants/likes/desires ME, that must mean that I'm special and worthy and great. It means that I'm the kind of person that powerful, authoritative people go after. Ergo, I must be powerful and authoritative myself.
If a teacher desires me, it means that I'm intellectually stimulating; I'm deep; I have a poetic heart and a mind as sharp as steel. If a doctor desires me, it means that I will live forever (because a doctor is a healer...and wouldn't a healer choose a healthy strong person?) If a boss wants me, it means that I'm smart and vivacious; I slice through problems like a knife through butter; my work is so brilliant and stunning and efforlessly perfect that it would be sheer folly to NOT love me.)
I guess that I want to be wanted, even if I don't myself want the one in question. It satisfies a craving for love; the need to be desired. It tells me that I'm worthy. I get a crush on this person because what I really want is for them to crush on ME. (Maybe it's the "do unto others" in action???)
Of course, I know that I AM worthy and wonderful and have that poetic mind (and yadda yadda all the rest too) even if those people don't love me, which very often, they don't appear to do, unless they are masters at masking their secret lurking desires. (<--sarcasm...smile.)
I also think that I don't like to be in the subordinate position (having a boss be "over" me, having a doctor "know more" than I do, etc.) So wanting them to want me is wanting to turn the tables & get the upper hand. If THEY have an uncontrollable crush on ME, then guess who is on top, is smarter, all of a sudden? Yes! Me!
But lately I've gotten away from the crushes. I have a woman doctor who is nice but not crush-worthy, and my recent bosses have not been attractive enough to inspire a crush. I've tried to convince myself it wastes time and energy to crush out on people frequently. Sometimes it is fun, though...
I don't know if you feel the same way. Just thought I'd share my thoughts on the subject!
JenStar
> You're gonna laugh at this, but when I was in college, I had an affair with my Public Affairs professor. At first I thought he was soo sexy, powerful, smart, put together. But once I got into the affair with him, I was completely disgusted. He was wrinkly, old, and frankly disgusting. That pretty much cured me of ever wanting those types of relationships again. ICK!!!
> starlight
Posted by pinkeye on July 28, 2004, at 16:51:41
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist, posted by JenStar on July 28, 2004, at 16:34:34
Jenstar,
I can so relate with your post. I exactly feel the same. I always have crush with people who are very good and feel that if they like me, I must be like that too.
But I usually like them for who they are as well. Not just for the fact that they like me. And I don't want to prove to myself that I am smarter than them by them liking me.
Pinkeye.> Sometimes the gap between fantasy and reality is bigger than we can (and want to!) imagine...thanks for sharing this 'crush deterrent' with us. :)
>
> pretty paints, I know what you're talking about - getting crushes on people in some kind of authority position; liking people we shouldn't / can't have. I have done this myself (gotten mild crushes on teachers, bosses, etc.) I've tried to analyze why I do this, and here's what I came up with:
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> Getting crushes on these people is a sign of self-doubt and under-confidence (in me.) I see the 'authority people' (doctors, teachers, bosses) as being designated as "smart" or "worthwhile" by society. And while I don't necessarily love the person they ARE, I want them to love ME. If a person in this authority position wants/likes/desires ME, that must mean that I'm special and worthy and great. It means that I'm the kind of person that powerful, authoritative people go after. Ergo, I must be powerful and authoritative myself.
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> If a teacher desires me, it means that I'm intellectually stimulating; I'm deep; I have a poetic heart and a mind as sharp as steel. If a doctor desires me, it means that I will live forever (because a doctor is a healer...and wouldn't a healer choose a healthy strong person?) If a boss wants me, it means that I'm smart and vivacious; I slice through problems like a knife through butter; my work is so brilliant and stunning and efforlessly perfect that it would be sheer folly to NOT love me.)
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> I guess that I want to be wanted, even if I don't myself want the one in question. It satisfies a craving for love; the need to be desired. It tells me that I'm worthy. I get a crush on this person because what I really want is for them to crush on ME. (Maybe it's the "do unto others" in action???)
>
> Of course, I know that I AM worthy and wonderful and have that poetic mind (and yadda yadda all the rest too) even if those people don't love me, which very often, they don't appear to do, unless they are masters at masking their secret lurking desires. (<--sarcasm...smile.)
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> I also think that I don't like to be in the subordinate position (having a boss be "over" me, having a doctor "know more" than I do, etc.) So wanting them to want me is wanting to turn the tables & get the upper hand. If THEY have an uncontrollable crush on ME, then guess who is on top, is smarter, all of a sudden? Yes! Me!
>
> But lately I've gotten away from the crushes. I have a woman doctor who is nice but not crush-worthy, and my recent bosses have not been attractive enough to inspire a crush. I've tried to convince myself it wastes time and energy to crush out on people frequently. Sometimes it is fun, though...
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> I don't know if you feel the same way. Just thought I'd share my thoughts on the subject!
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> JenStar
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> > You're gonna laugh at this, but when I was in college, I had an affair with my Public Affairs professor. At first I thought he was soo sexy, powerful, smart, put together. But once I got into the affair with him, I was completely disgusted. He was wrinkly, old, and frankly disgusting. That pretty much cured me of ever wanting those types of relationships again. ICK!!!
> > starlight
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Posted by JenStar on July 28, 2004, at 16:58:00
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist » JenStar, posted by pinkeye on July 28, 2004, at 16:51:41
You know, I agree with you - I guess I always do like people who are cool, nice, interesting. There are always some authority figures who don't interest me at all; the ones who do ARE the nice / smart / awesome ones.
But I think I do have an insecurity complex that convinces me that I need to prove myself, and if they like me, then that proves I'm superior or equal to them and therefore 'worthy.' Of course this backfires all the time. Oh well. Such is life, right? :)
Thanks for your post!
JenStar
Posted by pinkeye on July 28, 2004, at 17:16:52
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist, posted by JenStar on July 28, 2004, at 16:58:00
I think I am a good person too. But somehow I like people who are little better than me. I know I want them to like me. Maybe some part of it is to prove to myself that I am worthy, but I think I genuninely like them.
But it always backfires.
Any idea why it backfires? I have tried to like only people who are little less than me, who are not so good, but honestly, I don't like them.> You know, I agree with you - I guess I always do like people who are cool, nice, interesting. There are always some authority figures who don't interest me at all; the ones who do ARE the nice / smart / awesome ones.
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> But I think I do have an insecurity complex that convinces me that I need to prove myself, and if they like me, then that proves I'm superior or equal to them and therefore 'worthy.' Of course this backfires all the time. Oh well. Such is life, right? :)
>
> Thanks for your post!
> JenStar
Posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 17:23:55
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by lucy stone on July 28, 2004, at 14:11:25
You know the comforting part is something that you have to do for yourself. That's hard to hear and hard to do, but really, you've got to be able to do it. You come into the world alone, you go out of it alone so you have to be able to take care of yourself/love yourself/comfort yourself along the way. starlight
Posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 17:27:57
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist ? JenStar, posted by pinkeye on July 28, 2004, at 16:51:41
I think the other thing that's a great deterrent is understanding that intelligence does not equal wisdom. I work with all sorts of doctors. They're smart, but not wise. I see trophy wives all over the place, rampant materialism and emotional dysfunction. I've known poor people without formal educations with more wisdom than that! It's made me see things differently from this end.
starlight
Posted by lucy stone on July 28, 2004, at 17:36:36
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 17:23:55
Of course I know that. If I could do that I wouldn't be in therapy. With the help of my T I will learn how to do it. Right now I don't.
> You know the comforting part is something that you have to do for yourself. That's hard to hear and hard to do, but really, you've got to be able to do it. You come into the world alone, you go out of it alone so you have to be able to take care of yourself/love yourself/comfort yourself along the way. starlight
Posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 18:18:35
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by lucy stone on July 28, 2004, at 17:36:36
I saw this great t-shirt when I was back in school. It said: "If you want to know where you stand, Stand Alone." I always thought that was such a great line.
starlight
Posted by gardenergirl on July 28, 2004, at 20:33:05
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist, posted by JenStar on July 28, 2004, at 16:34:34
Wow, thanks for your insights. That is a good description of some of my own neuroses! It's helpful to see someone else articulate it.
Take care,
gg
Posted by Dinah on July 30, 2004, at 18:59:02
In reply to Re: Thanks Lcy, posted by starlight on July 28, 2004, at 17:23:55
We're all different, I guess. I don't find that thought particularly comforting. And I don't think that the human species was meant to be composed of lone rangers. I don't even think other cultures in the world think this way. It's a uniquely Western view, I think.
I didn't come into the world alone. I came into the world connected to my mother. :) She may not have been a perfect mom, but she loved me and tried to do her best for me. And while I wasn't connected to my dad physically, I was with him too. So I came into the world surrounded by people who loved me and wanted me to be with them. I rather hope to leave the world the same way.
I find interdependence far more beautiful than independence. A lot harder to maintain, but well worth the effort with the right people.
Posted by kindgirl on July 31, 2004, at 5:31:59
In reply to Re: I mean, my post was for Jadah, posted by Jadah on July 19, 2004, at 21:09:54
Jadah,
I am late here in this thread but read your post early on and my heart just ached for yours. I was going to post back to you that I hope you could find another therapist (not to replace him...but to help in this entirely separate issue you have not that includes him), and I think you could do it and not even necessarily disclose everything. You could talk very vaguely about all of it, and I know another perspective might help clear your eyes a bit. Yes, tear-filled eyes...
I am so sorry.You asked how many people would say yes, and I really don't know. This is not the same situation, but I had a teacher that I really really loved...he was like a therapist for me in a lot of ways...I trusted him, confided in him...I was in high school....he was married, but I still dreamed of fooling around with this dream man and "going all the way."
One day, it happened. He started to do things with his hands...just as an introduction to see if I was willing...and it went from there in the next few weeks. Boy was I willing! And you know, it is like you said, the dream was so much better than the fantasy. The physical relationship was not what I thought it would be...he was a selfish partner and I found out things about him I didn't want to know that totally ruined the fantasy.
My therapist is a female, and to be honest, I have had fantasies about her. From what I read, this is pretty typical, so I try not to freak about it. I am hetero and married, but I do wonder what it would be like to "know" her...to know all about her...to feel special to her because she does with me what she didn't do with anyone else, etc. You know, I am sure.
So, there is a huge part of me that would say "no" simply because I have been in this kind of thing where someone I idolized and wanted soooooooooooooooo badly took me up on it, and it turned out badly. But I have to say there is another big part of me that would jump at the situation because the desire is so intense and the longing and loneliness to be known and loved deep down is so great I would do anything to feel close to her, no matter what. Am I making any sense? Are you even reading this thread anymore?
You ARE very articulate and sound very loving and compassionate and so I bet you are a wonderful social worker. What would you say to you if you were one of your clients? Now you know what the whole mess feels like, unfortunately. I hope some good will come out of it...I think it will. Thinking of you and hoping you are well...
Posted by Susan47 on July 31, 2004, at 10:13:43
In reply to Re: Independence » starlight, posted by Dinah on July 30, 2004, at 18:59:02
I really liked the way you expressed yourself.
It makes me think.
Thank you.
Posted by Jadah on July 31, 2004, at 18:10:25
In reply to Re: I'm in love with my therapist, posted by pinkeye on July 17, 2004, at 1:36:45
I actually have looked into another therapist. I havent discussed this with my T though. I wonder about the outcome: will he say then that we need to stop everything and stick strictly to therapy the way it was? (this is not what I want), will he feel betrayed that i sought out someone to repalce him? What if I see a new therapist and then our affair ends? Will I end up with a complete loss of him? I think I will keep this other therapist lined up in the wind if my current situation goes array. I cant bear to lose him completely. I feel like, for now, I do have the best of both worlds, worlds that will collide in time. Although some of you disagree with what is going on, I have no regrets, not at this point anyway. I do need to find a way to "soften the blow" when things change, minimize the hurt. Even then, I dont believe I would give back anything I had/have with him for the world. It has been a very nurturing, learning experience. It happened, it continues, I have to take responsibility for my part including the consequences. I wonder though, even with a new T, if the transference would become overwhelming and the rejection of my desire be just as hurtful. For now, I am content. Each day is exciting, wondering what and when things will happen next. I know my story is different than most. I hope people can get what they can from it, but I also wonder if I am merely agitating some of you. I do not want to disturb anyone especially in your struggles with transferenc/countertransference issues. This is a wonderfull and safe place for me, but if my messages are upsetting anyone please let me know. That is not my intention. I do take into account what everyones input is. Everything seems twofold and difficult for me at times, to hear your input. I do appreciate it. Please try to find empathy and understanding within yourselves and try not to become impatient with me. Your words are wise, but easier said than done. Hope to hear from you all soon.
Posted by kindgirl on July 31, 2004, at 21:37:36
In reply to Re: everyones advice, posted by Jadah on July 31, 2004, at 18:10:25
Jadah,
You are sooooooooooooooooooooooo honest and that is soooooooooooooooooooo great. Thank you for keeping the doors open here, and your writings/feelings do not offend me in any way at all. I think you offer a lot of wisdom and insight for all of us. So, thanks for that!Those feelings run so deep for him. You care a lot about him, and you have a history with him. Do you ever listen to New Life Live (radio show)? It is hosted by Stephen Arterburn and John Townsend, and your situation reminds me of one that I heard about last week. This man called in because he was having an affair with another man for over 40 years. This man started to have feelings for a woman at work, and called in because he was so conflicted, so hurt, and didn't know what to do. I love the advice they gave him...
This is what they said in a nutshell...even though the situation may be wrong, sinful, not what is best for you or him, your feelings for him are real and you truly do love him. That is the truth. He has some very wonderful qualities about him and that is what you love about him and what attracts you to him. It is not all bad. It isn't that simple.The caller wanted to get out of the relationship but didn't know how. He was very upset...and their advice was for the man to sleep on the couch...keep the relationship but move away slowly over time. I think getting another therapist lined up is moving in that direction...and you need to cut yourself some slack and grace because this is excruciating for you. You are stuck between a rock and a hard place...if you stay you feel guilty and are afraid of the ultimate rejection/end of the relationship...if you go, you will miss him and your heart will break into a million pieces. Am I right?
You are so conflicted right now, I can hear that...and I only want to offer you my safe friendship and shoulder to cry on or ear to vent to...with absolutely no judgment. We have all been there...we have all made messes of our lives and so nobody is better than anyone else. Don't do that to yourself. I would say to you to keep journaling...just keep putting it all down...get it out somehow...talk to yourself...do some soul searching....and hang in there. You can write back to me whatever you want. No judgment. Promise.
(((((Jadah))))
Kindgirl
Posted by Susan47 on August 1, 2004, at 10:12:12
In reply to Re: everyones advice, posted by Jadah on July 31, 2004, at 18:10:25
I hope I haven't been unsupportive. In actual fact, and you may have guessed this, part of me envies the experiences you're having, even as another part of me goes "omigod what torture". If my therapist weren't married I would've really wanted to have an affair with him. I mean, I wanted to anyways, although knowing he was unavailable as a real partner in life, is what stopped me .. and the unwillingness to be part of that kind of deceit .. I couldn't help imagining what it must be like for the wife to be betrayed. THAT's NOT A JUDGEMENT ON YOU. Please understand that, Jadah. It's just how I think about my own situation, my ex-therapist (remember he fired me) etc.
I'm learning to withdraw from my ex-T and it's been easier than I expected. Him letting me go, I think, had everything to do (in my own situation) with being able to separate reality from fantasy.
I think about you frequently; partly envious, partly anxious. Please don't stop coming here. Your experience is teaching everyone something, and I do care about you, even though this is cyberspace. I know if I met you we would have big hugs. For ((((Jadah)))
Susan
Posted by Jadah on August 3, 2004, at 16:06:07
In reply to Re: everyones advice, posted by kindgirl on July 31, 2004, at 21:37:36
your name suits you. You do seem very kind and whole hearted. Thank you for the lack of judgement and support. Actually, today I am feeling very scared and insecure. I have, due to circumstances, missed my last two appointments with my T, I think the lack of contact has rendered me scared like a small child about to lose their favorite blanket. I did run in and get a hug from him, i left right after. My gut is wrenching, I just feel that he will end this soon. Last week I would have completely counterdicted this, I felt that he was becoming much more comfotrable with the whole affair. He helped take care of me when I was sick...did things for me that made it feel that we were in a "real" relationship. I was soooo happy that he took care of me and was there. I dont know what I am going to do when this ends. I cant see myself without him, literally. I dont know if I could handle that. We are talking about the ULTIMATE REJECTION, and I dont handle that well regardless. I am scared. Usually he comes over on Wednesdays (as well as other days), thats tomorrow. We'll see. I always get mad when he has other priorities, I feel like, "well arent I important too?" Family will always come first, I know. I lay in bed on the lonely nights and long for him. He sprayed my "security blanket" with Armani so I could smell him when he is not there. It hurts. So does the guilt knowing that I am, or potentially could be a "home wrecker". Im just full of mixed feelings today. IM IN LOVE WITH A MAN I CANT HAVE.....the story of my life..... Thanks for listening. How are you doing????
Jadah
Posted by Jadah on August 3, 2004, at 16:17:47
In reply to Hi Jadah, posted by Susan47 on August 1, 2004, at 10:12:12
Thank you for all of your support. I hope I am in some way helping you. HOLD ONTO YOUR FANTASIES, remember thogh that that is exactly what it is, which means no one can take that away from you and like i said, fantasies are always better than the real thing. Dont ever cross the line or try to see how far you could get (manipulate) your T, the pain and umbrella of emotions is more than a handful, a handfull Im sure was already over flowing or you wouldnt have gone to therapy in the first place. Today I am feeling really insecure, afraied he will leave me. I couldnt handle that. I had missed our last two appointments b/c I was sick, he did however take care of me... got my prescriptions, held me, fed me... it was as if we were in a "real" relationship. It always turns out the same though, he goes home to his wife. OUCH! I lie on my bed with my "security blanket" that he sprayed with Armani so that I could smell him even when he's not there. It hurts to long for something that you know has limitations. I AM IN LOVE WITH A MAN I CANT HAVE. I know the hurt is coming. I have a feeling he will try to control this relationship soon. Im scared, I know this cant go on forever, and I dont like feeling like I do not have control. I would do it over again, but I hate never knowing when..... I couldnt bare to live without him. Im really sensitive and insecure today. Can you tell??? How are you doing????
Jadah
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