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Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:13:30
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 13, 2004, at 22:28:40
> > > > Hopefully I didn't offend you with my last round of Larry on vacation jokes. You didn't carry the conversation any further so I wanted to make sure. (It's not like we haven't beaten that thing to death already though...) BTW, I LOVED your James Bond comparison. Too funny esp. the line about you thinking he was just being temperamental when he threw his drink at you. Anyway, I think he's back today so we'll have to find some other topic of amusement.
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> > > No problem. Larry's coming back today??? You don't think he will read all those posts, do you? ***blush***
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> > > Simus
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> > It's a little late for embarrassment now, don't you think?
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> > -K
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> Oh, please don't be embarassed....I've only read a few, and they were quite funny and imaginative.
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> I suppose the topics were sufficiently alternative that they also were permitted to drift slightly off on Alpine tangents.... I wish I had one of those Hoover, Larry Hoover moments....
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> Talk more on the morrow.
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> Lar
>We were only kidding about being embarrassed. We thought you'd find it amusing.
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 13:15:15
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? Phenylalanine, posted by robot on August 10, 2004, at 21:41:18
> I would like to know your opinions about phenylalanine. My doctor said its not good to take, and Ive read that it promotes nerve cell death (and some say cancer, but that actually worries me less).
Phenylalanine does not promote cancer, nor does it cause nerve cell death.
> I have taken the supplements before, without much result. ONe time, however, I took 500 mg (without having taken it for quite awhile) and I had a weird anxiety that lasted through the next day. I felt very irritable and confused.
There are many reasons to feel irritable and confused. Linking those feelings to a tiny dose (500 mg is very small, with respect to amino acid doses) of phenylalanine is not reasonable, if you didn't rechallenge yourself with some more, another time. I actually prefer a triple challenge, to reduce the likelihood of coincidental occurrences or placebo effect to a minimum. Placebo effect can be positive, or negative.
> Since then I have tried Spirulina powder. It seemed to stimulate me a little, but I discovered that it makes me even more mentally fuzzy than normal. Could this be the phenylalanine content? If not, what could it be? (Ive been on Lexapro 20 mg during this time.)
Some algae products contain alkaloids with psychoactive properties. It's hard to say.
> I would like to try phenyl again sometime but I want to know Im not risking something that could make my problems worse.
> thanks guysI doubt you can hurt yourself with it, if that's what you're worried about.
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 13:21:51
In reply to Re: Supplements for brain fog? Phenylalanine » KaraS, posted by robot on August 11, 2004, at 21:08:12
> http://adc.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/archdischild;78/2/116
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> Ive seen that word "neurotoxic" associated with it more than once.
>Uhhhh, the article is only relevant to phenylketonurics. It doesn't apply to healthy people, in any respect. Phenylalanine is not neurotoxic. It's one of those myths, often used to explain aspartame toxicity, which is itself not a clear syndrome.
Lar
Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:24:44
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:59:18
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 13:25:02
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » KaraS, posted by Simus on August 13, 2004, at 16:46:46
> No problem. Larry's coming back today??? You don't think he will read all those posts, do you? ***blush***
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> SimusEvery one. ;-)
Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:29:20
In reply to Lar, can you comment on Robot's question above? (nm) » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:24:44
Oops, you must have been replying to him as I was typing that...
Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:32:07
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:24:34
> > You definitely sound better and on the road to recovery. Have you ever considered taking probiotics or triphala?
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> What can you tell me about triphala?
Not that much. Just what I've read on iHerb.com's website and the fact that my friend is taking it now and thinks that it's helping her.
One of her traditional doctors (a gastroenterologist) is of Indian descent and he recommended it to her.Here's a blurb from iHerb:
"Planetary Formulas Triphala Internal Cleanser is a potent yet gentle formula, designed to support the body's natural cleansing process. It has been one of the most important formulas of Ayurvedic herbalism for thousands of years. Triphala is a balanced blend of three Indian herbal fruits: harada, amla, and behada. This formula is unique in that the astringent qualities of the fruits serve to tonify the colon, thereby promoting internal cleansing naturally."
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> > P.S. We should call over and make sure Larry and his girlfriend save us some space. If not, we could always ask them later at night when we're camped out with our sleeping bags in their hotel room!
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> I think that might be pushing the hospitality a tad. ;-)
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> Lar
>Oh, some people just don't know the meaning of sharing...
-K
Posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:33:15
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:45:45
> > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
For reals? Does she read and post here too?
Posted by gabbix2 on August 14, 2004, at 20:11:47
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:45:45
> > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
Gee she sounds like a real gem.
And word has it she's super-babe of the universe too. : )
Posted by Simus on August 14, 2004, at 23:45:35
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » Simus, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 13:25:02
> > No problem. Larry's coming back today??? You don't think he will read all those posts, do you? ***blush***
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> > Simus
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> Every one. ;-)Lar,
Thanks for being a good sport. Good to have you back!
Simus
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 13:48:42
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 14, 2004, at 13:33:15
> > > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> > 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
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> For reals? Does she read and post here too?Maybe. :-p
She loves that *I* do, and loves me more for doing it.
Lar
Posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 16:49:19
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by gabbix2 on August 14, 2004, at 20:11:47
> > > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> > 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
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> Gee she sounds like a real gem.
> And word has it she's super-babe of the universe too. : )
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>How do you know? Were you there in the Swiss Alps too? Geez, everyone was there but me!
Posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 16:50:53
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 13:48:42
> > > > I'm sure Larry would laugh at all of our wise-cracks. (His girlfriend might not find it as funny.)
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> > > 'Twas she who brought them to my attention. :-)
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> > For reals? Does she read and post here too?
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> Maybe. :-p
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> She loves that *I* do, and loves me more for doing it.
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> Lar
>Hmmmm, now I'm thinking who else hasn't been posting for a couple of weeks.... I'm such a busybody!
-K
Posted by gabbix2 on August 15, 2004, at 20:10:40
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 16:49:19
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> How do you know? Were you there in the Swiss Alps too?No, I wasn't in the Alps ; )
Posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 21:54:04
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by gabbix2 on August 15, 2004, at 20:10:40
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> > How do you know? Were you there in the Swiss Alps too?
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> No, I wasn't in the Alps ; )
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>Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?
Posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 15, 2004, at 21:54:04
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> Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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Posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 14:20:56
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
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> Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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> >ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!
Oh, geez....
Posted by Simus on August 16, 2004, at 17:04:11
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
> > Hmmmm... could you be "the girlfriend"?
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> Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
NO!!! SAY IT AIN'T SO, LARRY!Simus
P.S. You and Kara are too funny!
Posted by KaraS on August 16, 2004, at 23:46:16
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by gabbix2 on August 16, 2004, at 14:04:59
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> Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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>I take it that's a "yes"?
Posted by KaraS on August 16, 2004, at 23:52:18
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » gabbix2, posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 14:20:56
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> > Oh Poor Lar, he doesn't even really have a girlfriend, I really shouldn't be saying this but truth be told he spent his "vacation" in his mothers basement watching Star Trek re-runs. (He even has a Trekkie Hat)
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> Oh, geez....
I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!P.S. I have some Spock ears I could sell him for a really good price.
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 17, 2004, at 7:55:37
In reply to Re: what I'm taking, posted by KaraS on August 16, 2004, at 23:52:18
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> I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!Rolling On The Floor Laughing (My A@# Off)
> P.S. I have some Spock ears I could sell him for a really good price.
>Don't be appealling so to my Scot's heritage, 'kay? I may not need them for anything, but that "really good price" got my attention.
Lar
Posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 16:23:34
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » KaraS, posted by Larry Hoover on August 17, 2004, at 7:55:37
>I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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> Rolling On The Floor Laughing (My A@# Off)
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Makes a lot more sense than "Rounding out the Top Five List with Monoamine Oxidase" (Yet another sign I'm spending too much time on Psycho-Babble!)
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:06:33
In reply to Re: ROTFLMAO!!! » Larry Hoover, posted by KaraS on August 17, 2004, at 16:23:34
> >I still don't know what ROTFL stands for let alone ROTFLMAO!!!!!
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> Makes a lot more sense than "Rounding out the Top Five List with Monoamine Oxidase" (Yet another sign I'm spending too much time on Psycho-Babble!)
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HA!!! Kara, you are something else! ;)Simus
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:17:48
In reply to Re: what I'm taking » Simus, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:15:08
> One simple test of adrenal stress is to try some licorice. Do not use DGL, though. That is De-Glycyrrhizinated Licorice. Glycyrrhizin is the compound that blocks the enzyme that activates cortisol. I'll snip from an unreferenced source...."Glycyrrhetinic acid, a metabolite of glycyrrhizin, inhibits the renal conversion of cortisol to cortisone by inhibiting the enzyme 11 beta-hydroxysteroiddehydrogenase in the kidney." Cortisol is "potential cortisone", in the sense that circulating cortisol levels tell the hypothalamus that the adrenal glands are functioning up to par. By inhibiting conversion to cortisone, you not only reduce stress response, you also trick the hypothalamus into giving the adrenals a little holiday, by inhibiting the CRH cascade. Don't take licorice for more than four weeks. It can lead to other disturbances.
Larry,
If I took licorice, what would I be looking for as proof that I do indeed have adrenal stress? Just more energy or feeling better overall? Or is there something more specific?
Thanks,
Simus
Posted by Simus on August 17, 2004, at 22:21:37
In reply to Re: what I'm planning on trying » Simus, posted by Larry Hoover on August 14, 2004, at 12:55:59
> By way of anecdote, my trial last spring of Enada NADH (along with additional niacinamide) not only provided me with unprecedented energy and resiliency, but my allergies were virtually absent. I typically require double-doses of allergy meds, along with inhaled steroids, just to remain functional. But not during that trial.
What is Enada NADH???
Simus
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