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Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers

Posted by alylene on February 24, 2003, at 13:14:52

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers, posted by zeliva on February 22, 2003, at 12:37:53

> I'm scared of talking zyprexa because of the weight gain side effect. My Doc has told me the same thing about the two meds together. He said zyprexa makes you fat he doesn't want me to take that unless it was the last resort. Thanks for the advise.

I had the exact same fear, however I did end up taking a small dose of Zyprexa and did not gain weight. I was starting to get extremely manic (after three months of severe depression) I had several sleepless nights and severe agitation.

Anyway, I felt better immediately on Zyprexa (combined with Lexapro, which I have been on for over six months). However after about two weeks my hands started trembling so bad every morning that I had to stop taking it. Now I take Zonnegram in conjunction with Lexapro, and I have not felt this good in years! I wouldn't be afraid to try the Zyprexa just because of weight gain.

Good Luck!

 

Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers

Posted by KrissyP on February 25, 2003, at 0:30:44

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers, posted by alylene on February 24, 2003, at 13:14:52

I took Zyprexa when I was receiving shock treatments. I only had 9, but I do remember Zyprexa made my appetite increase big time! Maybe there is another alternative if your weight-gain concern is powerful-I know mine was, and it doesn't help the situtaion any.
Best of luck to you!

 

Re: Mind noise bozeman

Posted by BarbaraCat on February 25, 2003, at 12:38:50

In reply to Re: Mind noise BarbaraCat, posted by bozeman on February 22, 2003, at 19:43:06

I'm convinced it is tuning into another realm. This particular music is too coherent and enjoyable to be due to mind static, which has a very different quality. I think we who have these sensitive brains are compensated in many ways we don't always notice or appreciate. Fear gets in the way and murks up the instrument and we're left with static. But every so often, a pure wavelength get through and we hear it, see it, sense it, whatever. Most mystics, shamans, etc., have gone through intense depressions and darkness and despair before breaking through to the other side, as though their great gifts had to be forged in some way.

I think the practice is to be open to and aware of these subtle currents. Our brains are certainly sensitized, but the crazy experiences are so much more crude, blaring and in your face than the quieter ones that come with the Angels.

> I have never talked to anyone else who even knew what I was talking about. I thought it *must* have been the angels, too. I mean, what else could it be? is what went through my mind. Yikes.
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> bozeman
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Re: Mind noise and Angels

Posted by Jaye on February 25, 2003, at 20:09:55

In reply to Re: Mind noise bozeman, posted by BarbaraCat on February 25, 2003, at 12:38:50

I heard someone say they thought they had a religious experience, but then it turned out to be a brain-thing.
We can all joke about angels, but how else would they communicate with us except through our brains/minds. The connection has not changed over the centuries, it's just that we now know the words neuron, synapse, etc. : )

 

Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers

Posted by SeaShell on April 27, 2003, at 19:03:23

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia & mood stabilizers, posted by Cynthia on August 7, 1999, at 16:31:34

Cynthia,
My daughter has been seeing psychs for years with no real diagnosis. She is fifteen and it sounds like her most recent psychologist thinks she may have cyclothymia. The problem is she doesn't want to be on meds but everyone is encouraging her to do so. I would like for her to be medicated too because I want her to have as near a normal life as is possible. Can you write me back, so she may read your response, and tell her your experiences and how medicine has helped you. She sees her psychiatrist this coming Fri. and I really want her to be open-minded about trying something that may help her. She was on Seroquel but it didn't really leave her feeling in control of her life and she still had her ups and downs. Also, Sean and Andrewb can you give her some encouraging words and insight into why it's important to take medication?

Shelley

 

Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers SeaShell

Posted by Jaye on April 28, 2003, at 5:54:13

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers, posted by SeaShell on April 27, 2003, at 19:03:23

I just wanted you to know that I have been down a similar road with my daughter. She is now 22 and much better. it was a wild ride through the teen years with her. The teen hormones seem to really magnify the problems. If you ever what to email back and forth, I'd be happy to be part of your support group.

 

Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers Jaye

Posted by SeaShell on April 28, 2003, at 9:13:03

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers SeaShell, posted by Jaye on April 28, 2003, at 5:54:13

> I just wanted you to know that I have been down a similar road with my daughter. She is now 22 and much better. it was a wild ride through the teen years with her. The teen hormones seem to really magnify the problems. If you ever what to email back and forth, I'd be happy to be part of your support group.

Thanks Jaye,
It's nice to hear. I sometimes feel my only hope is she'll get better as she gets older. It all started with her very young but peaked between 10 - 12. I'd be happy to hear from you and also have someone to ask for advice from when needed. Thanks again, Shelley

 

Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers SeaShell

Posted by Barbara Cat on April 28, 2003, at 13:24:44

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers, posted by SeaShell on April 27, 2003, at 19:03:23

Hi Shelly,
I'm jumping in here. Has your daughter ever tried an anti-bipolar med? I can relate to her since my symptoms started early and presented as a very difficult adolescent and teen. My dx is finally bipolar-II instead of major depression for which I'd always been unsuccessfully treated. Lithium, along with a tricyclic has saved my life after having been on every SSRI out there.

The reason to consider meds is that in any mood disorder there is not only the discomfort and physical stress to deal with, but there is a maladaptive learning process that takes place. Almost as if the circuitry of the brain is being hardwired and sensitized to disordered thinking. Whatever reasons stress is created, whether through our thinking or through life events, the body reacts by producing cortisol. Too much cortisol has shown to be damaging to neuroreceptors. Over time and too much mental stress, the amygdala, the brains alarm center, becomes overly responsive and 'learns' to maintain a constant state of anxiety, learning to kindle at less and less stimulus until the voice of the reasoning rational cortex gets drowned out. The sooner you quench that kindling and learned helplessness effect the better. She may decide to try it on her own later in life, but if she's been on successful med therapy for a few crucial years, she'll have had a stable structure as a reference point. But for now her brain is still growing and needs to be protected from chemicals that are much more destructive than the chemicals one finds in mood meds.

If she is bipolar then chances are she has a progressive condition that, if left untreated, will only progress and become less responsive to treatment. I wish my parents had looked beyond the rebellious wild child and seen that I desperately needed help. To think that I could have spent those thirty years learning how to be successful and well adjusted rather than becoming an expert at trauma, disorganization and thwarted talent. I could have realized early that my dark moods weren't the result of some warped twisted furtive thing that was all my fault.

Definitely high dose fish oil (omega 3) will help her overall brain health.

 

Re: rapid cycling and mind noise

Posted by ELENI4 on June 23, 2003, at 15:42:48

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by izle on November 14, 2002, at 22:38:38

> I experience exactly what you experience, both the very rapid cycling (minutes and hours) as well as the noisy brain. My brain isn't only noisy, it's also very busy. I just can't stop thinking. And the noise is just as you describe it (busy train station). I can't remember a time when I wasn't like this. I have been to many mental health professionals who have never picked up on any of it. I've told them about the busy brain but they don't seem to know what it is. Through research on the web I found cyclothymia. I went to another pshychiatrist recently and mentioned the cyclothymia. I told her how quickly the cycles can change and she said this could still be cyclothymia. I don't know what the noisy, busy brain is about but I hope to someday find a mental health professional who does. FYI: I also have Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLE) which is a brain wave disorder. I'm not sure how this fits in. Best of Luck.


I have the same thing, and like you no one truly understands what I'm talking about when I try to explain it further. They either ask, "You hear voices?" or say, "so you mind is racing?" My answer is always, "No, I do not hear voices, though I do tend to hear music, often with lyrics. My mind does race, but it's not just that. It's almost like an inner dialogue. It's really tough to explain. Has anyone been able to rid themselves of this with meds, and if so, what meds? I'd absolutely LOVE to know. I took Lithium briefly to stabilize my moods, but developed "metal mouth" and decided the metallic taste was too bothersome to continue. I guess that's another question. If someone out there has taken Lithium and also developed metal mouth, does it go away? I was only on a very low dose of 300mg and the taste came on after only three to five days.


 

Re: rapid cycling and mind noise

Posted by jaye on June 23, 2003, at 16:43:02

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by ELENI4 on June 23, 2003, at 15:42:48

I try to think of mind noise the way I think about my tintinitus (sp?), that is, the constant ringing in my ears.
When I'm busy with a project or with people or reading or listening to good music (focused) I don't notice it as much. Somehow it just doesn't drive me crazy any more.
Of course, sometimes I answer "THAT makes sense" or "SHUT UP!" or "That's BS". I've had a year of zen style therapy and learned to use meditation instead of medication, so maybe that's where my new found tolerance has come from.

 

Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers SeaShell

Posted by jaye on June 23, 2003, at 16:50:13

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers Jaye, posted by SeaShell on April 28, 2003, at 9:13:03

>
> Thanks Jaye,
> It's nice to hear. I sometimes feel my only hope is she'll get better as she gets older. It all started with her very young but peaked between 10 - 12. I'd be happy to hear from you and also have someone to ask for advice from when needed. Thanks again, Shelley
>
> Shelley, I don't visit this site often and just saw your response. Hope all's well or as well as can be expected and you and your daughter are experiencing relief from time to time.

Jaye

 

Re: rapid cycling and mind noise ELENI4

Posted by Craig Allen on June 24, 2003, at 19:43:04

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by ELENI4 on June 23, 2003, at 15:42:48

that thing about you hearing music in your head, often with lyrics, i have that too. i've never given it any thought but maybe it is related to my brain problems. just to clarify - i don't ever really think that i'm hearing music. i know it's internal, same for you? but i have to say, it is playing in my head probably 80% of the time when i'm awake.

 

Re: rapid cycling and mind noise Ritch

Posted by cleo on July 3, 2003, at 19:21:20

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by Ritch on September 26, 2002, at 10:34:05

> What kind of meds are you on? Antidepressants can trigger a lot of the stuff you are talking about in bipolar folks. The "mind noise" I get are fragments of intrusive music that loop and play over and over and drive me nuts. Also, any thinking processes that were going on while I was working seem to stay in there and continue working on problems trying to solve them somehow. It is like my short-term memory buffer is expanded way too much and doesn't get cleaned out. It is this "continuing to consider" type of thing. Sometimes I have to shut off the TV and not play any music CD's all day to let my mind "quiet out". All of this stuff only happens when I am having hypomanic symptoms. I was checking an epilepsy web-site and they mentioned avoiding excessive exposure to music to prevent seizures (I thought that was odd). There are some other things too.. lately I have been getting these "flashes" of an intrusive image of a car wreck I was in a long time ago. Another analogy of what it feels like is a walkie-talkie where the "squelch" control is altered and you start picking up all sorts of extraneous stuff that you don't want to consider or hear. Yet another analogy I thought of is staring into a pool of water at your reflection while it is raining. If it gets to raining too much all the wavelets from the rain breakup the image so much you can hardly recognize it.

I agree so much about the mind trying to solve different problems all the time.My mind never stops doing that. It's like I'm having a coversation with myself. Is that what you mean? Does anyone experience that? My lips even move to what is being said. I also feel things. While I was asleep, I felt a hard thump on my chest that woke me up. I looked around and of course, no one was there. I thought it was a ghost or something. I am so preoccupied with what is going on in my mind that I can hardly listen to what others are saying or read one sentence. The words make NO sense to me.

 

Re: rapid cycling and mind noise

Posted by jaye on July 3, 2003, at 19:49:09

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise Ritch, posted by cleo on July 3, 2003, at 19:21:20

yeah, I have that too, but what to do? sugar and coffee make it worse. Sometimes I hear someone calling my name or tapping me on the shoulder and other stuff.I have "something" that sits or stands behind me and looks over my right shoulder. ghost? guide? or Just Plain Nuts! ya gotta say oh well... I mean by paying attention to this phenomenon you make it worse. Just consider yourself neuotic or a person with a complex and go on with your life.
or just think of yourself as special in a good way, not like the boring "macdonalds" crowd. you're a creative person in touch with reality in a shaministic way. go forth in joy! (or something like that : )

 

Re: rapid cycling and mind noise ELENI4

Posted by Barbara Cat on July 4, 2003, at 11:08:46

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by ELENI4 on June 23, 2003, at 15:42:48

I take lithium and occasionally have metal mouth. It's accompanied by unquenchible thirst. My mouth feels sticky and my breath comes out sharp and hot ('Ugh! Hon, do you know your breath is bad?', as my husband keeps reminding me). It's not all the time. The thing is, I used to get this occasionally even before I went on lithium, usually when I was out of my mind with panic attacks and severe agitated depression. Someone once told me that this could be due to mercury amalgam fillings. I don't know.

What to do about it? I drink 8 oz hot water with 1/2 lemon squeezed into it (gotta be fresh lemon) in the morning, sometimes with fresh ginger water as well (simmer fresh peeled chopped ginger for 20 min.). This seems to balance the chemistry. Then I chew xylitol gum I get from my natural foods market. This keeps the saliva going and neutralizes the metal taste. I guess regular gum would help too as long as it's not full of crap. Xylitol however is getting good marks for preventing tooth and gum problems among other good things. Somthing else to do is to chew well and swallow fresh parsley or drink parsley tea. Parsley has alot of cholophyll which neutralizes bad breath and bad stomach, and it's a great nerve tonic as well. - BCat

>I took Lithium briefly to stabilize my moods, but developed "metal mouth" and decided the metallic taste was too bothersome to continue. I guess that's another question. If someone out there has taken Lithium and also developed metal mouth, does it go away? I was only on a very low dose of 300mg and the taste came on after only three to five days.
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Re: rapid cycling and mind noise

Posted by Barbara Cat on July 4, 2003, at 11:32:28

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise, posted by jaye on July 3, 2003, at 19:49:09

All this is fascinating. I've heard incredible celestial music like I was wearing head phones. I've had a woman in my left ear and a man in my right keeping up a constant patter to each other, and to me. Sometimes almost indistinct but other times as clear as a bell. They were very friendly and I enjoyed their company. They would sometimes tell me things that were going to happen, and they did, but mostly it was just a pleasant conversation about this and that. Some might dismiss it with 'Oh yeah, a schizoid moment', but there's more to it than that. It was all very coherant.

There were other times when I felt someone in back of me, to the right, whispering my name. Sometimes I could feel his breath on my neck. This was not a nice visitation. It scared the living daylights out of me. There was also other paranormal stuff happening that I can't explain. I was going through a very discordant agitated state and like poltergeist phenomena, I believe that my intense electric field was projecting and attracting very weird energies.

Someone also mentioned intrusive looping thoughts of a car accident. This sounds alot like PTSD. It's classic, in fact, and referred to as PTSD flashbacks, where the violent scene keeps looping through your head or unexpectantly intruding. It wants to be resolved. I went through a series of EMDR sessions which really helped clean out some (not all) of the violence I was reliving over and over from my childhood abuse. That stuff doesn't usually come up until something in you is ready to deal with it. - Barbara

 

mind noise - any head traumas?

Posted by Barbara Cat on July 4, 2003, at 11:45:45

In reply to Re: rapid cycling and mind noise Ritch, posted by cleo on July 3, 2003, at 19:21:20

For anyone who has had this mind noise stuff, did you have a head injury before it started? Maybe fell on your head as a child, or hit hard on the face or head? A woman I know is a very powerful psychic, used by the police and the FBI. She said her psychic abilities started in her 30s when she fell off a horse and sustained head injuries and concussion. They started with voices in her head and progressed to the point where she decided to go through formal training to channel these strange occurances. This head scrambling has been documented in many other psychic's lives - not only head injuries, but a massive scrambling of brain functions accompanied by chaotic mood disorders. When it reordered itself, they had a new sensitivity, able to pick up 'other channels' on their neural TV set. There's even some very interesting research done on this by a physicist, last name Prigogine, on chaos and new level of reordering. Something to think about.

 

Kids!!!

Posted by alylene on July 5, 2003, at 23:06:46

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia mood stabilizers Jaye, posted by SeaShell on April 28, 2003, at 9:13:03

I am just wondering if anyone has little kids? I was not diagnosed until the birth of my second child, just over two years ago, and the stress of child rearing has nearly killed me. All the books say, change your lifestyle, switch jobs if you need to...whatever it takes to cut down on the stress that can trigger you episodes. Well, obviously, I can't cut out my kids, but that is without a doubt, the biggest stress in my life. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my kids....but motherhood is another story.
Any words of wisdom or encouragement would help. I know it will get easier, but I have a four year old and a two year old. I can't work full time, so full time day care is out of the question. I do have them in a two day a week pre-school (which is out for the summer). And, I have a wonderful husband who helps a lot...but with my head issues, it is never enough.

Help!!!

 

Re: mind noise - any head traumas? Barbara Cat

Posted by KimberlyDi on July 7, 2003, at 9:21:12

In reply to mind noise - any head traumas?, posted by Barbara Cat on July 4, 2003, at 11:45:45

When I was a little girl I was bounced on the bed by my dad. He would flip me over and let me fall on the bed. Only one time, I bounced across the bed and landed on my head on the floor. I was also bucked off a horse during my childhood and lost consciousness. Came to with the horse pawing me gently and nuzzling me with his nose. I must have been out for awhile for him to get curious about why I wasn't moving. I don't get psychic impressions from objects or know where dead bodies are buried. I'm just very intuitive and have strong pattern recognition. I can usually tell when someone's lying because I have this mental radar. It *pings* back to me when something is off or just doesn't make sense.
Kim
Wires crossed because of head injury or just plain crazy? Who knows.

> For anyone who has had this mind noise stuff, did you have a head injury before it started? Maybe fell on your head as a child, or hit hard on the face or head? A woman I know is a very powerful psychic, used by the police and the FBI. She said her psychic abilities started in her 30s when she fell off a horse and sustained head injuries and concussion. They started with voices in her head and progressed to the point where she decided to go through formal training to channel these strange occurances. This head scrambling has been documented in many other psychic's lives - not only head injuries, but a massive scrambling of brain functions accompanied by chaotic mood disorders. When it reordered itself, they had a new sensitivity, able to pick up 'other channels' on their neural TV set. There's even some very interesting research done on this by a physicist, last name Prigogine, on chaos and new level of reordering. Something to think about.

 

Re: Kids!!! alylene

Posted by KimberlyDi on July 7, 2003, at 9:32:05

In reply to Kids!!!, posted by alylene on July 5, 2003, at 23:06:46

Be a tag team with your husband. Switch off and on with some child-raising responsibilities. Make sure you know that you have some free time, quiet time or fun time, for you to look forward too when you are getting stressed. Then make sure you make time for just you and your husband. Even if it means getting a babysitter once a month to enable you & hubby to go on a date, together! Get a therapist to talk to about homelife stress. Little things will begin to add up to make a more enjoyable life.
Good luck!
Kim
p.s. ooops, no meds in this discussion, am i going to get my first redirect?

> I am just wondering if anyone has little kids? I was not diagnosed until the birth of my second child, just over two years ago, and the stress of child rearing has nearly killed me. All the books say, change your lifestyle, switch jobs if you need to...whatever it takes to cut down on the stress that can trigger you episodes. Well, obviously, I can't cut out my kids, but that is without a doubt, the biggest stress in my life. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my kids....but motherhood is another story.
> Any words of wisdom or encouragement would help. I know it will get easier, but I have a four year old and a two year old. I can't work full time, so full time day care is out of the question. I do have them in a two day a week pre-school (which is out for the summer). And, I have a wonderful husband who helps a lot...but with my head issues, it is never enough.
>
> Help!!!
>

 

Re: mind noise - any head traumas? KimberlyDi

Posted by Barbara Cat on July 7, 2003, at 11:56:08

In reply to Re: mind noise - any head traumas? Barbara Cat, posted by KimberlyDi on July 7, 2003, at 9:21:12


> Wires crossed because of head injury or just plain crazy? Who knows.
>
No, no, not crazy. Ultra sensitives have a hard time dealing with life because of being so attuned and vulnerable to everything. It's wearing, heartbreaking, circuits get blown out and then stressed-out biochemistry takes over. Also, having a strong bullsh*t meter doesn't win any points when no one else seems to notice and you can't just sit there, smile, and say nothing.

I'd like to think that meds give us a break from the twanging antennas so that we can (hopefully) learn to tune out the static and use this sensitivity skilfully. As you said, doesn't have to be psychic at all, but very strong intuition has got to be a gift - why not? Anyway, that's my opinion.

 

Re: mind noise - any head traumas?

Posted by KimberlyDi on July 8, 2003, at 8:10:45

In reply to Re: mind noise - any head traumas? KimberlyDi, posted by Barbara Cat on July 7, 2003, at 11:56:08

>
> > Wires crossed because of head injury or just plain crazy? Who knows.
> >
> No, no, not crazy. Ultra sensitives have a hard time dealing with life because of being so attuned and vulnerable to everything. It's wearing, heartbreaking, circuits get blown out and then stressed-out biochemistry takes over. Also, having a strong bullsh*t meter doesn't win any points when no one else seems to notice and you can't just sit there, smile, and say nothing.
>
> I'd like to think that meds give us a break from the twanging antennas so that we can (hopefully) learn to tune out the static and use this sensitivity skilfully. As you said, doesn't have to be psychic at all, but very strong intuition has got to be a gift - why not? Anyway, that's my opinion.
>

Hey, I like your opinion. I've known for a LONG time that I was different from other people in many ways. *twanging antennas* <~ i like that. :)
Kim

 

Re: Lamictal

Posted by Jennifer N. on July 9, 2003, at 14:16:06

In reply to Re: Cyclothymia and Lamictal, posted by Psydoc on April 22, 2002, at 4:37:03

I have been taking Lamictal for 3 weeks. I have BD with major depressive disorder. My psychiatrist started me out at 25mg/day, increasing by 25mg/week until reaching 100mg/day. When I began Lamictal, I was on 200mg/day of Tegretol, and have been decreasing by 100mg/week until I reach zero. Today is my last dose of the Tegretol. I want to know how long the Lamictal should take to kick in. I am having increased manic and "racing thought" episodes. My doctor also gave me Seroquel, which has only helped some. Will I notice more of a difference after the Tegretol has been discontinued?

 

Re: Lamictal Jennifer N.

Posted by Barbara Cat on July 10, 2003, at 1:08:15

In reply to Re: Lamictal, posted by Jennifer N. on July 9, 2003, at 14:16:06

Lamictal started working within the first week for me. I noticed a definite brightening energetic effect which lasted about 2 months and then declined. During this time, I went through some extreme stress and so am not sure if my circumstances caused the decline or if it just pooped out. Lamictal was not strong enough to handle the severe depression that was engulfing me and I could not increase it past 100mg without anxiety. I went on nortriptyline, which definitely helped, but am now getting off because of the side effects.

I have BP-II with major depressive mixed states and basically, I'm determined to stabilize using lithium and lamictal only. I think lamictal is a worthwhile med and will titrate up slowly to see if it handles things.

I know nothing about tegretol but if you're not using a decent mood stabiliser concurrently, it's doubtful you'll have a smooth ride from lamictal alone. It seems to need something else to complete it's transmission. In my experience, lithium is the perfect partner - one potentiates the other. Together they become very effective in combatting the hell of an agitated depression. At least at first. Time will tell if this combo is more than just a tease.

> I have been taking Lamictal for 3 weeks. I have BD with major depressive disorder. My psychiatrist started me out at 25mg/day, increasing by 25mg/week until reaching 100mg/day. When I began Lamictal, I was on 200mg/day of Tegretol, and have been decreasing by 100mg/week until I reach zero. Today is my last dose of the Tegretol. I want to know how long the Lamictal should take to kick in. I am having increased manic and "racing thought" episodes. My doctor also gave me Seroquel, which has only helped some. Will I notice more of a difference after the Tegretol has been discontinued?

 

Re: Lamictal

Posted by lmblec on July 10, 2003, at 2:28:18

In reply to Re: Lamictal, posted by Jennifer N. on July 9, 2003, at 14:16:06

about three weeks to kick in.I GET VERY DIZZY FROM JUST 50MG AND HATE THE DRUG


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