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Posted by Avalon on August 1, 2006, at 9:34:46
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Gallstones?!??!, posted by kparis on August 1, 2006, at 8:29:49
Kesta, I agree. This is not the place for a religious discussion. I used to participate in another message board for an unrelated medical condition and it seemed it was a Christian love fest. It was annoying to me. I don't need to be preached to -- I have my own beliefs and if I want proselytizing, I will look for a religious message board. Let's all stick to the medical issues here. Thanks.
Posted by kparis on August 1, 2006, at 10:53:51
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Gallstones?!??!, posted by Avalon on August 1, 2006, at 9:34:46
> Kesta, I agree. This is not the place for a religious discussion. I used to participate in another message board for an unrelated medical condition and it seemed it was a Christian love fest. It was annoying to me. I don't need to be preached to -- I have my own beliefs and if I want proselytizing, I will look for a religious message board. Let's all stick to the medical issues here. Thanks.
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Hi Avalon,Thanks for your input and support.
It's been awhile. How are you doing? I've been off for 11 weeks now and I'm still having issues. Sometimes the depression hits me hard, lasts for 10 minutes or so and disappears. Strange. I'm also starting to experience panic attacks again. That's why I originally started taking the Cymbalta. It is really frustrating. I started taking Vit. B complex, Omega 3 tabs, & Magnesium today in the hope that it will help with the anxiety/panic. I don't want to become dependant on Klonopin again. Does anyone out there know if this will help with panic/anxiety? I'm using relaxation tapes when I go to sleep at night and I'm exercising more. It seems that when I'm starting to have an attack if I change my space then I feel better. Sometimes that is nearly impossible, though.
Thanks,
Kesta
Posted by willieg on August 1, 2006, at 15:08:23
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Gallstones?!??!, posted by kparis on August 1, 2006, at 10:53:51
Just speaking my own beliefs.
Posted by willieg on August 1, 2006, at 15:14:07
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Gallstones?!??!, posted by kparis on August 1, 2006, at 8:29:49
This post was not meant to offend anyone. We are speaking about what helps us all through. This is my way. Yours may be something different. I would love to hear what or who you lean on when you need support. My point was that having a friend who will support you does help. As for any other beliefs I have I am not pushing them off on you. I am truely sorry I offended you. That was not my intention.
Posted by Avalon on August 1, 2006, at 17:22:29
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Gallstones?!??!, posted by willieg on August 1, 2006, at 15:14:07
Willieg, you say you are merely "stating your beliefs", but this is actually what you said: "I hope others have the support of a good friend to help them through. If not you can always reach out to GOD. He will be your friend when it seems there is no one else there. Take the time to talk to him and ask him to release you from the hold of this horrible drug. Believe in your heart that he will comfort you and take you through." Now you are no longer stating your beliefs, you are recommending we talk to God. Your God, which may not be someone else's higher power. I personally do not appreciate people telling me to talk to God or give me any other unsolicited religious advice, especially on a message board about medical issues. My relationship or belief in a higher power is no one else's business but mine. I really don't understand how people continually feel they have the right to cross that line.
Posted by Gog on August 1, 2006, at 18:27:43
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Gallstones?!??!, posted by kparis on August 1, 2006, at 10:53:51
Hi Kesta,
I know that without the Cymbalta I am so much more aware of my anxiety. Of course, the awareness doesn't make it go away but I sure do recognize it a lot more. I was on anti's when I first started having anxiety symptoms (mainly I couldn't sleep at night) so I am not used to feeling them so strongly. On Sunday night I had to take another half of a Klonopin because I knew it was going to be a difficult sleep night.I have heard about some of the B-vitamins helping with depression but didn't realize they could help with anxiety too. I was researching yesterday because I came across something in another one of Dr. Bob's forum's about B-vitamins making people angry. I did read that too much of them can have some adverse effects as well. There is so much information out there on them it is difficult to sort through it all.
I have a B-vitamin complex but now I am concerned I might be getting too much of some things so I don't really want to take it. I may schedule an appointment with a naturopathic doctor to see what they have to say.
I read this site yesterday on several of the B-vitamins and it actually was pretty good: http://dietary-supplements.info.nih.gov/factsheets/vitaminb12.asp
Hope something here was useful. I'm on week 7 and still feel like I have what I call "withdrawal" days. Where my body just feels off. Although after meeting with my counselor today I concluded that the last few days it was probably anxiety more than the withdrawal symptoms. You may want to consider acupunture too for your anxiety. I know sometimes it helps me. I'm reading a book right now called "Conquering Depression and Anxiety Through Exercise". It's pretty good so far and it sounds like you are already on that track. I'm only about halfway through but I will let you know how it goes. Take care!
> It's been awhile. How are you doing? I've been off for 11 weeks now and I'm still having issues. Sometimes the depression hits me hard, lasts for 10 minutes or so and disappears. Strange. I'm also starting to experience panic attacks again. That's why I originally started taking the Cymbalta. It is really frustrating. I started taking Vit. B complex, Omega 3 tabs, & Magnesium today in the hope that it will help with the anxiety/panic. I don't want to become dependant on Klonopin again. Does anyone out there know if this will help with panic/anxiety? I'm using relaxation tapes when I go to sleep at night and I'm exercising more. It seems that when I'm starting to have an attack if I change my space then I feel better. Sometimes that is nearly impossible, though.
>
> Thanks,
> Kesta
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Posted by willieg on August 2, 2006, at 11:35:53
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by Avalon on August 1, 2006, at 17:22:29
I thought this was an open forum for all. Evidently I was wrong. So for those of you who are open minded I wish you all good luck. For the others...?????
Posted by kparis on August 3, 2006, at 7:57:44
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by willieg on August 2, 2006, at 11:35:53
Willieg,
You are correct, this is an open forum and as such is used for us open-mined people. You know, as does the rest of the population, that politics and religion are not safe subjects to speak of and that people really do become agitated when it is assumed that they all believe the same thing. Please, don't go away, use the forum as it is intended...that's all. You have as much useful input and need as the rest of us and as such, are an important part of this forum.
Kesta
Posted by Avalon on August 3, 2006, at 8:11:00
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by kparis on August 3, 2006, at 7:57:44
Kesta, nicely put. So now that that's out of the way, let's checkpoint on how we're all doing. I am pretty much done the nausea, though still am not embracing coffee in the morning, which means my stomach is still not right. And I still have the occasional dizzy spell. But otherwise I'm feeling MUCH better, way more energy (as opposed to not being able to get out of bed on the Cymbalta). Now as for my back pain, which is the reason I started all this crap, that hasn't changed at all...so I'm back to square one there. My doctor is very frustrated with me because I can't take all the meds he's trying on me, too many side effects. But I mean, I can't help the way I am!
Posted by kparis on August 3, 2006, at 8:47:52
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by Avalon on August 3, 2006, at 8:11:00
Hi Avalon!
My stomach is still not right either. The nausea comes and goes and if I eat, it goes. But I'm trying to lose the extra weight so I'm trying to drink more water and that doesn't set well in my stomach. But, being off the Cymbalta is wonderful! And I'm exercising, lifting weights, and walking with poles (that's fun!). It's been 12 weeks for me now and my husband told me last night that I'm getting back to normal...that I seem happier. That's cool. I had severe neck and shoulder pain along with intermitent low back pain (herniated disk) and I saw a pain management specialist. Rather than try to explain the procedue he did if you go to his web-site you can read it for yourself. He's amazing and what he does works for several years before having to have the procedure again. I can't believe that I'm nearly pain free, only having to take Ibuprofen occasionally. I hope this site helps you with some different, and drug free options!http://www.spineuniverse.com/mdpage.php?doctorID=2506
Take care,
K
Posted by willieg on August 3, 2006, at 13:14:12
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by kparis on August 3, 2006, at 7:57:44
To tell you the truth I love hearing other's points of view. Tha is what makes us individuals. Now getting back to Cymbalta. I haven't been off it quite as long as some other people have and maybe that is why I haven't had such a hard time as some other people have. Every so often I have a dizzy spell. I have not had the nausea, or other symptoms. The worst was for two days and I eventually found out my blood pressure had dropped. I don't know if this was from the medication or not. I guess I am just lucky. I found that for me it helps to keep moving and carry on with my daily activities as normally as possible. I also increased my water intake and am in the process of a body cleansing. It seems to be helping me and maybe someone else will find it benificial.
Good luck to you all.
Posted by kparis on August 4, 2006, at 16:53:17
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by willieg on August 3, 2006, at 13:14:12
Hi Willieg,
Man! My 1st week getting off of Cymbalta was truly frightening. I had hallucinations, severe sweats, nightmares so bad I had to sleep sitting up! My bp rose so high (and I'm typically low) that I'm on Lopressor 100mg per day. It was horrible and went on that way for nearly a month. I'm happy for you that you seem to be handling it better than I. I know what you mean about cleansing your body. I drank, and still do, tons of water. I suffered from such severe lymphedema after I got off of the Cymbalta that I'm seeing a person who is doing lymphatic drainage (for the 1st 3 weeks it was twice a week). That and exercising is helping dramatically! Also, I am taking Omega 3 tabs, vit. b complex (I did go to the website that was suggested...thank you!), and magnesium. I truly believe that all of this is helping. My heart goes out to all of you. Withdrawal is a frightening process. People who are addicts and withdraw have someplace to go for help. I saw my sweet daughter go through a 9 month program for alcoholism and she suffered. I guess what I'm trying to say is that people who are not addicts and are trying to withdraw really only have each other. I guess we all have our hurdles and I applaude each and everyone of you for having the strenght to go through the withdrawal process. (I've been in the human service field for over 20 years and this is the 1st time I've personally experienced what I'v seen clients going through. I have a new respect for recovering addicts.) I'm digressing. Thank you, all of you, for being here and helping me and all of us get through this.
Kesta
ps I'm truly happy that you're back, willieg!!
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 11, 2006, at 0:59:53
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by kparis on August 3, 2006, at 7:57:44
> You are correct, this is an open forum ... You know, as does the rest of the population, that politics and religion are not safe subjects to speak of ... Please, don't go away, use the forum as it is intended...that's all. You have as much useful input and need as the rest of us and as such, are an important part of this forum.
This is an open forum, but focuses on withdrawal from medication. There are other boards for other subjects, including Politics and Faith. It’s fine to discuss them at this site, I’d just ask that that be at those other boards. Thanks,
Bob
Posted by kparis on August 20, 2006, at 15:00:06
In reply to Redirect: politics and religion, posted by Dr. Bob on August 11, 2006, at 0:59:53
Hi All,
Seemed like we all stopped dead. How are you all hanging in?
I'm having severe panic attacks again. This sucks. Anyone else experience this after being off Cymbalta for 3-4 months?
K
Posted by rad62 on August 21, 2006, at 14:34:24
In reply to Re: Redirect: politics and religion, posted by kparis on August 20, 2006, at 15:00:06
Hi, I've been on 60 mg 2 x's a day of Cymbalta for over a year for pain management and depression. I also have fibromyalgia and am on full time disability. I just recently added 15 mg of Dexedrine twice a day for my ADD. In the beginning it took my pain away completely until the effects of the Dexedrine wore off and gave me energy that I haven't had in years. Then I noticed I was having problems with my vision and terrible headaches. I firmly believe it's from the Cymbalta. I stopped taking the morning dose of 60 mg and immediately the vision improved and headaches are subsiding, however, I am starting to experience withdrawals from lack of the morning dose. My energy level has decreased and I'm tired and in pain but I know it would be a lot worse if I weren't taking the dexedrine. I'm wondering if anyone else has had vision problems or headaches from Cymbalta, especially after adding a stimulant? I am hoping the energy level will go back up once my body adjust to the lower dosage of Cymbalta. After reading all this information about Cymbalta, I would like to get off it entirely but I'm afraid of what may lie ahead.
Posted by kparis on August 21, 2006, at 16:44:00
In reply to Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by rad62 on August 21, 2006, at 14:34:24
Hi,
Yes, I had the vision problems and headache. It lasted for several months after I stopped the Cymbalta completely. Nasty stuff, that Cymbalta. I don't know what to suggest to you. I wish I did. All I can say is my heart goes out to you and my thoughts are with you during this period of your life. Cymbalta nearly destroyed me and I'm still dealing with the high bp and weight gain. I've been completely off of it for 16 weeks on Wednesday. Good luck and keep us posted!
Kesta
Posted by rad62 on August 21, 2006, at 17:12:53
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by kparis on August 21, 2006, at 16:44:00
Thanks, Kesta! From all the info I've gotten off this site today, I've been encouraged that I will get through this. It's just nice to know we're not alone. : ) Are you on any antidepressant at this time?
Posted by kparis on August 22, 2006, at 8:08:27
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal » kparis, posted by rad62 on August 21, 2006, at 17:12:53
Hi,
I'm not on anything right now except for the occasional klonopin for anxiety. I was off of that too but life blew in and you know how that goes. Adult kids and all their problems.
Keep us posted and I sincerely hope you start feeling better. Believe it or not, you've taken a positive step to feeling better in the long run!
K
Posted by rad62 on August 22, 2006, at 10:59:05
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by kparis on August 22, 2006, at 8:08:27
Gosh I hope so! I'm very irritable, restless and in pain today. I just talked to my dr. and he said I may have to increase my cymbalta and then decrease it slower. See I have Anxiety/depression, bipolar, fibromyalgia, diabetes, severe degenerative arthritis and 2 herniated disc in my back. Not to mention ADD, which I just started on the DeXedrine for about 3 weeks ago. It helped me so much until I started having the vision problems and headaches. Now after backing off the cymbalta (cut my dose 1/2 by 60 mg) I'm fighting the withdrawals. And yes, I have 3 grown children who sometimes bring on more stress than my 9 year old, who also has ADD and bipolar. I'm really stressing today so thanks for your encouragement. I had to cancel my dental appt today because I just feel I could handle driving. Hopefully, this will get better soon but it seems to be getting worse. I know I won't be able to come off the antidepressants completely because of my diagnosis' but I don't want to be on any more medicine than I have to be. Thanks again for being a support, I really need that right now.
Rebecca
Posted by kparis on August 22, 2006, at 19:00:45
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by rad62 on August 22, 2006, at 10:59:05
Hi Rebecca,
I am so sorry that you are going through all of that. I suffer from severe panic attacks and feel that I know I'm going to die. It is a horrible feeling, as I'm sure you are aware. You must have great strength to go through all of the other things that you are going through. My positive thoughts are with you. Hang in there!
Best,
Kesta
Posted by sickashell on August 27, 2006, at 19:38:19
In reply to Cymbalta withdrawal, posted by Regina on March 3, 2005, at 16:37:18
Have been victimized by this wicked cymbalta withdrawal for a long, long time. From the start, my spouse refuses to believe that it is anything real. Even during the violent vomiting and siezures she ignores and says nothing. Has anyone else experienced this type of denial from their partner? Recommendations? Its tough dealing along two fronts at the same time.
Postscript: its time to quit messing around with this rat poision and punish those who distribute it --doctors pharmacies, the manufacturer. I did not pay hundreds of dollars to the doctor and more for the pills in order to purchase a murder.
Posted by Avalon on August 27, 2006, at 20:39:58
In reply to Re: Cymbalta Withdrawal -- Partner Not on Board, posted by sickashell on August 27, 2006, at 19:38:19
Sickashell, I'm sorry to hear of your sickness and spouse's lack of support. I am recently single but I can say that my ex-BF was very supportive during all my many "issues", even though I'm sure he didn't understand what was going on. Have you talked to her about this and how it makes you feel?
I can understand your saying we need to go after the doctors, pharmacists, etc. The problem is that the withdrawal symptoms don't occur with everyone -- only a few of us lucky ones. Because my doctor hadn't had any patients experience any problems getting off Cymbalta (before me), he refused to believe Cymbalta withdrawal was the cause of my problems. And just try to tell a doctor, "Well, I read such-and-such on the Internet..." -- I wasn't even about to go there!!!
I hope you feel better soon and have that heart-to-heart with your spouse. Good luck.
Posted by kparis on August 29, 2006, at 9:22:29
In reply to Re: Cymbalta Withdrawal -- Partner Not on Board, posted by sickashell on August 27, 2006, at 19:38:19
Hi,
I am so sorry about your partner not understanding. My new husband and I had major problems. He did believe that I was having a horrible time of it, but had a hard time with my being "lazy" and unable to move my body. Thankfully, I'm better, he's better, and life in general is much better. However, it took nearly 4 months for me to feel somewhat normal. I even went so far as to tell my husband that he had a choice to make and I gave him 4 hours in which to make it. Accept me and what is happening to me, know me as I was before Cymbalta, and know that I would be that person again, or we would end the marriage and would go our separate ways. He chose the 1st. It is so hard and I wish there were words to help, but I can only offer my support from the heart. As far as your doctor, I don't know what to say. I was very fortunate, again, with my psychiatrist. She understood and believed what I was telling her about the withdrawal, even though I was the 1st she'd seen, and worked with me through this. Is it possible for you to see another doctor?
Be well,
Kesta
Posted by Triece on September 15, 2006, at 18:04:30
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by kparis on August 4, 2006, at 16:53:17
This is only my 3rd day off the Cymbalta. How long was it before the nightmares and dizziness, and those awful sweats that is sooo embarrassing.
I havn't told my Dr. that Ive stopped cause i just think he'll me something else and I refuse to take anything else he gives me. I need a second oppinion.Also, Im so glad you are on here all of you. THANKS!
Triece
Posted by sickashell on September 29, 2006, at 21:13:52
In reply to Re: Cymbalta withdrawal - Willieg, posted by Triece on September 15, 2006, at 18:04:30
Unfortunately, there is no good news as to the time it takes for the withdrawal symptoms to diminish. For me, it has now been a year, with the last 15 wks. being absolutely the worst. I have read thousands of reports from those tortured by this horrible drug and some are saying that they are still having problems after a year-and-a-half. Worse, lots of people, including me, are seeing a worstening of symptoms as time goes on. Do not think there is something unusual about your circumstance -- many have been there before and curse the day they heard of this rat poison. I have even read reports of people having terrible problems for months-and-months after taking only a single pill, just once.
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