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Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 26, 2013, at 17:20:43
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect', posted by baseball55 on November 17, 2013, at 20:30:15
>One of my very favorite all time movies is Amadeus.
It's a good film, but poor Salieri must have turned in his grave. He was actually quite a good composer! Most composers were/are less skilled than Mozart but that's not to say they're bad.
A nice bit of Antonio Salieri:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_5Dr8Bz5Bc
Some of the other lesser known Classical era composers I like are J.Quantz, CPE Bach and Luigi Boccherini.
Quantz most famous, and extremely charming flute concerto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWBEmI-xf10
Boccherini's Fandango: (here transcribed for 2 harpsichords, there are many wonderful versions of this piece)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERtZD2JPey4
And then CPE Bach, a then popular Classical composer and one of JS Bach's 500 children ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64moJzfeUR0
And for bedtime. Not Classical, but Baroque. Arcangelo Corelli's sublime Op. 6, No. 4. Unsurpassed beauty.
Posted by alexandra_k on November 26, 2013, at 19:00:22
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » baseball55, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 26, 2013, at 17:20:43
thanks a lot for the suggestions!
"amadeus" was one of my favorite plays from high school.
Posted by sigismund on November 26, 2013, at 22:40:00
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » baseball55, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 26, 2013, at 17:20:43
I'm very fond of Bocherini. Is there some of that fatal feeling one has with Schubert? That night thing in Madrid? It's like Keats 'My heart aches and a drowsy numbness something something' but no bloody opiate these days. Is it nostalgia? What the f*ck is nostalgia, against which we are so often warned?
Do you like Schubert's last piano sonata? D960 or something? Magic for me.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 27, 2013, at 5:19:21
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect', posted by sigismund on November 26, 2013, at 22:40:00
>I'm very fond of Boccherini. Is there some of that fatal feeling one has with Schubert? That night thing in Madrid?
This one? La musica notturna delle strade di Madrid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0f-rQV--jU
Very unusual beginning for a piece from ~1780!
My favourite for today is still this piece though, except the slightly over-elaborate 30 second introduction. I think the performers, although brilliant, have added a bit too much ornamentation. It's like adding a unnecessary broach to an already beautiful dress.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0rdZo7gYQ8
Posted by sigismund on November 28, 2013, at 18:28:09
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » sigismund, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 27, 2013, at 5:19:21
Yeah, I'm not sure about the Bocherini, what it was, maybe something else.
The Corelli is amazing and lovely.
What is that many stringed instrument?
Posted by baseball55 on November 28, 2013, at 19:11:34
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » baseball55, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 26, 2013, at 17:20:43
Oh Wow. That Corelli video makes me weep. I can't seem to copy and paste urls, don't know why. Whey I was maybe five years old, my parents watched Heifetz and a student play Bach's double violin concerto on PBS. They bought the record and played it over and over. I grew up on it. I still find it unbelievably moving. Just go to youtube and search Bach double violin concerto. He only wrote one.
Posted by sigismund on November 28, 2013, at 20:41:41
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect', posted by baseball55 on November 28, 2013, at 19:11:34
I must listen to it again. Perhaps there was this part in the middle of the first movement where, was it going backwards or forwards or the layering. That first movement is so rigorous, and the second a fugue, do I recall reading that. I have never understood fugues, they are pretty far out and interesting. The counterpoint at the end of some classical symphonies (esp 40 Mozart) is easier, and makes me think of taking a building apart. I have Richter doing the Well Tempered Clavier and listen often. He amused me by saying that after playing for Stalin's funeral he really needed a shower.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 29, 2013, at 9:34:56
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect', posted by sigismund on November 26, 2013, at 22:40:00
Although I don't play anymore, I can still read music and I find it can add a lot to see the score alongside the music. Some brilliant YouTubers have made this so easy for us, as in this example.
Part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM-sSHNA41U
Part 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkPgqJHJvU4
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 29, 2013, at 11:06:35
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » ed_uk2010, posted by sigismund on November 28, 2013, at 18:28:09
>The Corelli is amazing and lovely.
>
> What is that many stringed instrument?This one? Scroll down...
http://www.bachtrack.com/Claudio+Monteverdi+-+Still+young+at+500
It's the Theorbo, a sort of giant lute. Very widely used in the Baroque era as part of the Basso Continuo. The numbers and symbols below the cello part represent the chords, it's called a figured bass.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 29, 2013, at 11:38:38
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect', posted by baseball55 on November 28, 2013, at 19:11:34
> Oh Wow. That Corelli video makes me weep.
I added one above with the score, a simpler less elaborate performance.
If you prefer drama, listen to Europa Galante's phenomenal version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX_MtDxZVl0
I love the Bach double. You must mean this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1uSj4apOG0
Do you like the Bach harpsichord concertos eg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2laUv3y7OfA
Baroque string music is usually difficult but many orchestras can 'have a go'. In contrast, the operatic music of the time often sounds almost un-singable.
How about this (literally breathtaking) singing! (from Griselda, Vivaldi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNA0J2bJg3k
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 29, 2013, at 11:54:40
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » baseball55, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 29, 2013, at 11:38:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2VXdsT6Ez8
:)
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 29, 2013, at 11:57:35
In reply to Re: 'mozart effect' » sigismund, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 27, 2013, at 5:19:21
I'm going to go for this one. In memoria aetera 'in eternal memory', from Vivaldi's Beatus Vir.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyiJrGNisH8
Posted by johnLA on December 3, 2013, at 0:26:06
In reply to Re: cuz i can't stop... » johnLA, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 26, 2013, at 12:53:53
thnx ed for all the links.
really appreciate that.
i will work my way thru them and let you know about what you asked.
thanks again.
john
Posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 1:27:19
In reply to Re: cuz i can't stop... » ed_uk2010, posted by johnLA on December 3, 2013, at 0:26:06
I liked the last one the most.
I have tried, but hip hop gives me akithesia (how do you spell it?). Right before the end of that I thought, maybe I agree with the politics? Which I do here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5IUq-XBTI8
But then I was so disgusted with all that back then.
I do like trance.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 4:12:23
In reply to Re: cuz i can't stop... » ed_uk2010, posted by johnLA on December 3, 2013, at 0:26:06
> thnx ed for all the links.
>
> really appreciate that.
>
> i will work my way thru them and let you know about what you asked.
>
> thanks again.
>
> johnI couldn't stop. And then, where I saw your headline, I thought of the great Michael Jackson song 'Don't stop till you get enough'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZorRGrDiMsA
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 4:26:22
In reply to Re: cuz i can't stop..., posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 1:27:19
>I liked the last one the most.
Which one Sigi?
>hip hop gives me akithesia (how do you spell it?)
I like your sense of humour. Anyway, it's akathisia :) Unlike you to not know a spelling!
I couldn't watch your video link because like most things it has been made 'unavailable in your country'. I think I found the right song via a search though. I enjoyed it. Thanks Sigi.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 4:49:45
In reply to Most relaxing classical..., posted by ed_uk2010 on November 29, 2013, at 11:57:35
D. Scarlatti K27, played on piano. This is sublime and so unique for the 1750s. Like nothing else.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 6:19:12
In reply to D. Scarlatti. Ahead of his time., posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 4:49:45
Scott Ross on harpsichord, a very expressive performance, not too fast or showy. I like the hand-crossing. Scott sadly died of AIDS in 1989 (aged only 38), so this must be quite an old recording.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKrhlML66fM
Posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 12:30:07
In reply to Re: cuz i can't stop... » sigismund, posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 4:26:22
The hip hop song I put up has the immortal line 'Look how great we have become'. Bombs by Faithless. Our countries and our leaders: Did Howard really say he would be America's deputy sherrif in Asia? And Tony Blair and Rupert Murdoch, that other great Australian, such great friends.
The one I liked most wasAnd Bononcini's version was based on the 'same' piece by Francesco Cavalli.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 13:28:44
In reply to Re: cuz i can't stop..., posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 12:30:07
>The one I liked most was....Cavalli (the original!)
You are a true traditionalist Sigi (does that even make sense?)
The Cavalli is in a much older style.
Posted by johnLA on December 3, 2013, at 19:45:34
In reply to Re: cuz i can't stop... » sigismund, posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2013, at 13:28:44
hi ed-
i'm not sure if i missed it, but do you have a music background?
your knowledge (and taste) in music is awesome.
if i get back to teaching i might be calling on you for recommendations!
thanks for all the good links.
john
Posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 21:12:46
In reply to for ed_uk2010, posted by johnLA on December 3, 2013, at 19:45:34
Eddy has a taste for the baroque, doesn't he?
I wanted to find Reiner Goldberg singing Florestan's Aria from Fidelio, with the Budapest some people or other but it was not on youtube. The first few times I was so breathless listening to it, quite overcome. Something to do with his phrasing, though that might not be the right term, with his pace.
Posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 21:23:03
In reply to Re: for ed_uk2010, posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 21:12:46
I'm too stupid for fugues. I listen to the Well Tempered Clavier often enough but.......
Counterpoint is fine, but again there is the stupidness factor.
I quite like the idea of getting cancer and giving up on the world and living on morphine, green tea, raw fish and fugues. Very traditional, with a nod to Japan.
Any ideas?
Posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 21:24:04
In reply to Re: for ed_uk2010, posted by sigismund on December 3, 2013, at 21:23:03
Was that Scarlatti all counterpoint?
I should listen to it again.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 4, 2013, at 3:48:19
In reply to for ed_uk2010, posted by johnLA on December 3, 2013, at 19:45:34
You're welcome, and thank you. I don't have a background in music though. I've not played for well over 10 years either. Just a casual listener!
> hi ed-
>
> i'm not sure if i missed it, but do you have a music background?
>
> your knowledge (and taste) in music is awesome.
>
> if i get back to teaching i might be calling on you for recommendations!
>
> thanks for all the good links.
>
> john
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