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Posted by Sabina on June 22, 2003, at 21:45:52
In reply to Re: I have a moral dilemma, HELP!, posted by Susy on June 22, 2003, at 20:21:08
> To Sabina:
> Sabina I think must of us in this support group suffer anxiety, panic attacks, OBD, depression, etc...so you are not alone. If you have being suffering this "issues" by now you may be able to know yourself a little better. I do have extremely horrible panic attacks but I know that I will never harm nobody but me =(. Unfortunately, most people don't understand that we are not crazy and that we are "controling" our symptons taking our meds. It is up to you if you want to be honest. But, I think that all of us by wanting to feel better, and acknowledging our a/d.,is because we are working on it, I've known some people who will never admit they are neurotics, ezquizo, etc...and don't take care of themselves.
> Well, I hope it may help to you.
> SusySusy,
I honestly don't understand the vantage of the above text. I believe there may have been crossed signals beween us at some point and I'm sure I'm to blame. I'm sure you meant well, just as I did in addressing the "moral dilemma" you petitioned advice for in reference to caring for the young children of an acquaintance.
Just to clarify no my behalf, in case I've been remiss: I do suffer from anxiety, I am on medication, I am in therapy, I do take care of myself, and I do have a strong support system, both virtually and physically. I don't believe I said anything about feeling alone or being dishonest. In fact, I make absolutely no secret of my anxiety, my medication, or my therapy to anyone.All I was trying to say (and obviously doing a poor job at it) is that I don't feel it's necessary to reveal every gory detail of your lowest moments (i.e. suicide attempts) in order to feel sufficiently forthcoming to the woman whose places her children in your trust. I do apologize for any miscommunication on my part and wish you the best of success in this endeavor and all others.
Regards,
Sabina
Posted by sierra1 on June 22, 2003, at 22:13:10
In reply to Should I stop effexor, posted by racergurl74 on June 22, 2003, at 21:19:10
My doc told me that no matter what type of AD a patient is on, she always tapers them off. Maybe you should get another opinion?
Posted by zinya on June 23, 2003, at 0:01:00
In reply to Should I stop effexor, posted by racergurl74 on June 22, 2003, at 21:19:10
hi racer,
It's so hard to suggest anything about dosages when we're not doctors and not seeing you, but i would tend to agree with sierra that tapering off seems really important. From everything i've read here of people going through withdrawal -- and now with your nausea you say is really bad after skipping 2 days... it seems like any abrupt cessation causes harsh side effects.You didn't say what dose you were on, but i assume it's either 37.5 or 75 from what you say. I guess if it were me -- and you have only 75 mg capsules left (is it XR? capsules?) -- then i'd open up a capsule and take half the granules and then the other half 24 hrs later and do that for a few days to help taper off and hopefully minimize side effects.
Good luck to you... and write again to let us know how things are... And do understand that one thing we all learn for sure from this website is that every one of reacts differently to these drugs, so what works for one person is almost guaranteed to *not* work exactly the same way for the next person.
zinya
Posted by melley on June 23, 2003, at 6:55:28
In reply to Should I stop effexor, posted by racergurl74 on June 22, 2003, at 21:18:33
> I don't want anyone to get the wrong message from what I want to say. I have been on effexor for 7 days and just found this posting site. I've read everyone's experiences. Before effexor, I had been on prozac 20 mg. for about 5 years. I originally started the med because of marital problems and needed something to help me thru it. Everything worked out and I'm still married, going on 19 years. Heres my thing, when do you know if you don't need any meds any more? For the past 2 days I have forgotten my effexor and I have the worst nausua ever today. The prozac had begun to make me very lifeless and tired and lazy and sleepy, that's why I wanted to change to effexor. But now, I kind of feel like maybe I don't need any meds any more. My family practice doc prescribes it for me. I've never been to a phsyc. dr. I would just like to be my old self again and not be medicated if I don't have to be. I can remember feeling so much more energetic before I started prozac and I would love to discontinue if I could. I asked my dr. and he said, "ok", just to stop, that I'm not on high enough dosage to taper off. What do you think.
I think you will still need to taper off. Now, about needing meds. Generally the way it works with meds is that the first time you have a depressive episode you take it for a year. Then go off. If the depression comes back then you go on it long term. This is just what I learned in my travels. Might not be a bad idea to go off all and then it you are still feeling bad get back on. What about wellbutrin? That helps with depression but usually makes you more energetic then less. melissa
Posted by Donna Louise on June 23, 2003, at 7:29:59
In reply to Re: Susy needs help!, posted by Susy on June 21, 2003, at 0:00:16
> > Susy, Hi! Sorry your post got lost or redirected. What's going wrong in your life? Are you severely depressed or suffering from anxiety? Do you have a diagnosis? Paxil isn't the only med out there. Your English seems pretty good to me. Hang in there!
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> > Kim
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> Hi again, you guys almost make me cry;lately I feel everything doble; thanks for your support.Brian, Mercedes, Kim, Kimberly, all of you: I don't even know where to start. Ok,I have been on Xanax this last time for a year already,for the anxiety and the Panic Attacks but it is not helping anymore =( I feel confused; somedays I don't feel like doing anything, not even answer the phone. So I went to this Dr. She gave me Paxil CR, 25mg; I took it, and I had the strongest panic attack I ever had!!! I wasn't even able to control my own thoughts I felt like if I was on LSD or something =( and not able to sleep with my heart racing all night. Then I went and told the Dr. again, she said it is ok if I take the Paxil along with Xanax until the Paxil kicks in. But Iam so affraid. It's been 2 weeks already and I am still thinking about it everyday.Still Keeping my xanax dose. Somedays I feel with no energy at all but still very agitated inside.I think I have develop some kind of Phobia to meds, all are very strong for me, and that makes me feel very bad, what if I have to go to the hospital and they give me something I can't stand? I envy you guys taking your meds everyday. Should I give it a try with St. John's Wort? but, could I mix it with Xanax?
> What do you recommend?
> Will continue in next post so I don't make it very long.......Suzy
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> > > Hi, I am new to the list, but I did send a message and didn't receive any answer =(
> > > Maybe I am in another thread? The title was I am scared of this med, HELP! I said that I don't feel strong enough to try Paxil again; that I am very sentisitive for meds, etc...
> > > Maybe I'm doing something wrong to get the message post? Or maybe somebody deleted cause the things I said? Or maybe cause my English is not perfect....I also need to learn from you guys, so please let me know if you read this message so I can explain.....
> > > Thanks =) Susy
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Hi Susy,
Just to let you know, when my husband started paxil, he had to begin with 5mg and titrate to 10mg. That is all he needs, lucky guy (I needed 40). This is not the extended release though. Anyway, it took him a few weeks to adjust to it even at that low dose. But now he feels better than I have ever known him to feel and I have known him for a long time!
Hope this offers some encouragement.Donna
Posted by CherC68 on June 23, 2003, at 8:03:57
In reply to Should I stop effexor, posted by racergurl74 on June 22, 2003, at 21:19:10
No matter how long or how much dosage you are on, you should still go slow. I was on Effexor 6 days of 37.5 and I had some pretty wicked withdrawals, but I am doing better with the Side Effects/Withdrawals - well, cause there are no more side effects and the Withdrawals are gone!
Take Care.
Hugs, Cher
Posted by jtc on June 23, 2003, at 8:08:35
In reply to Re: Should I stop effexor, posted by melley on June 23, 2003, at 6:55:28
> > I don't want anyone to get the wrong message from what I want to say. I have been on effexor for 7 days and just found this posting site. I've read everyone's experiences. Before effexor, I had been on prozac 20 mg. for about 5 years. I originally started the med because of marital problems and needed something to help me thru it. Everything worked out and I'm still married, going on 19 years. Heres my thing, when do you know if you don't need any meds any more? For the past 2 days I have forgotten my effexor and I have the worst nausua ever today. The prozac had begun to make me very lifeless and tired and lazy and sleepy, that's why I wanted to change to effexor. But now, I kind of feel like maybe I don't need any meds any more. My family practice doc prescribes it for me. I've never been to a phsyc. dr. I would just like to be my old self again and not be medicated if I don't have to be. I can remember feeling so much more energetic before I started prozac and I would love to discontinue if I could. I asked my dr. and he said, "ok", just to stop, that I'm not on high enough dosage to taper off. What do you think.
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> I think you will still need to taper off. Now, about needing meds. Generally the way it works with meds is that the first time you have a depressive episode you take it for a year. Then go off. If the depression comes back then you go on it long term. This is just what I learned in my travels. Might not be a bad idea to go off all and then it you are still feeling bad get back on. What about wellbutrin? That helps with depression but usually makes you more energetic then less. melissaHi, I took Effexor for about 1 year but before that I was on Luvox for about 3 or 4 years. My psychiatrist suggested that I stop the Effexor this past spring just to "clean out" my system and see how I did without it. Well I am doing okay. I do feel a little better because I had read about so many side effects and bad things about the Effexor but it did help me while I was on it. It was difficult getting off of it though. I also had the nausea and the dizziness and strange feelings in my head. But that is all gone now. I have been off Effexor for about 2 months now but I still take Klonopin,.5 mg every night just for anxiety. I am starting to think I need to be taking another antidepressant because I have zero patience with my two girls and my husband. I am a stay at home mom and I do medical transcription from home but my husband is still very controlling of our finances and he nickels and dimes everything I do or buy and it seems like he just thinks he is always right about things and I am always wrong. I feel as though he just does not care about me like he used to. He sometimes talks down to me like I am 10 years old, but we have been married for 18 years and there is a lot of "stuff" that I am upset with him about but anyway we have two small girls and I just cannot let them be without a father because I grew up without my father because of divorce. Anyway enough about my junk. Good luck to you and you might try Benadryl for dizziness or nausea while going off Effexor. Hang in there, you can do it. jtc
Posted by racergurl74 on June 23, 2003, at 10:17:29
In reply to Re: Should I stop effexor, posted by jtc on June 23, 2003, at 8:08:35
First of all, I want to thank everyone here for your suggestions. It really helps to talk to people who know more about these things than I do. I am on effexor XR 75 mg. and I actually wondered about taking the capsule apart and taking half. Thanx for the suggestion. As far as Wellbutrin, I've only tried Prozac and now the effexor but I really want to be medication free, if I can. I also have small children and stay at home and I hope I can have patiencealso but right now I actually feel like I tune them out alot {kinda zombified sometimes} so what's worse? {I don't know}My husband has gotten so used to me being so passive and agreeable on the meds that if I stand up to him about something he immediatetly thinks I must be "out of meds". That really scares me into thinking that we may have problems if I get off, but I really want to try.
Posted by Susy on June 23, 2003, at 10:25:24
In reply to Re: I have a moral dilemma, HELP! » Susy, posted by Sabina on June 22, 2003, at 21:45:52
My dear Sabina, when I said you are not alone,I just wanted to let you know we all feel the same way as you everyday;(or maybe worst) if I tell you one of my days maybe you would like to cry. About the honest part, maybe I didn't use the correct word, It happens to me that I try to explain to my sons and it seems they don't understand,all they want is me bringing money from work and cleaning, etc.... and other friends think I exagerate and play the victim, or worst they look at me like saying, be careful, you can die or get crazy. When I was giving my opinion I was just trying to say that we do understand, because we do suffer the same.
I am very sorry for the misunderstandings, might be my english though.
But,you have a friend here, it that helps.
Posted by KimberlyDi on June 23, 2003, at 10:42:42
In reply to Effexor XR Dreams........., posted by Rickey on June 21, 2003, at 4:53:47
I've heard lots of people talking about the vivid dreams. Before Effexor, I always had the knightmares about running for my life. Lately, whenever I can concentrate enough to read, I've been reading books about sorcery, magic, dragons, mythical creatures. I have the most amazing dreams about them at night. It's very cool. I've been experiencing other side effects that aren't cool; the constipation and zilcho-orgasms. :(
Keep enjoying those dreams!
Kim> Am on day 19 (75 mg). Sweating has stopped and am feeling great. One thing I have noticed is my dreams. I have always have had vivid dreams. I think one reason is that I sleep with the TV on. I'm sure that triggers many dream themes. Most of the time they were not very pleasent. Was always being threatened, lots of running etc. For the past few weeks when I waken and remember the dreams they are always "sweet dreams" very pleasent. Wake with a smile. In fact a few nights ago I had a dream that I was attending my own funeral. But it was not scary. Was a peaceful experience and even funny in parts. Was wondering if there is any connection with taking the drug.
Posted by KimberlyDi on June 23, 2003, at 10:52:28
In reply to Re: Driving a problem? » mercedes, posted by zinya on June 21, 2003, at 13:46:30
Robert Miles is good, and Jim Brickman always soothed me (music CD's). Fear of panic attacks have triggered a few for me. Then again, I would wake up in the middle of one, heart racing. I used to count backwards from 100 until I calmed down, however many times it took. We're proud of you Mercedes. You're taking great steps.
Kim> hi Mercedes,
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> how exciting for you - will this be your first grandchild?
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> i quite empathize with your sense of agoraphobia... I've come to realize in recent weeks that i may have become agoraphobic at least to some degree myself during this depression... I don't feel panic about going out but i feel a sense of fatigue that takes over, sometimes in the throes of dressing to leave for somewhere and, if it's at all optional, i wind up deciding not to go, repeatedly. It is some sort of anxiety but kind of generalized...
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> It's a bit ironic to me cuz some years back my work led me to being aware of some research on agoraphobics and one thing i know is that a breakthrough point for some at least is realizing that the trigger for panic is actually the *anticipation* of panic. Meaning it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy once one believes that a panic attack is likely to be triggered by a certain setting...
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> Easier said than done, by far, but this means that if it's possible to deprogram one's first thoughts that an event might lead to panic, perhaps with a ready set of counter visualizations (like recall of pleasant past road trips? or of your envisioned grandchild) to draw on might help...
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> Wishing you a peaceful road trip - and maybe a diverse repertoire of tapes for any mood that might strike, from belting out some oldies but goodies all the way to more mellow stuff like Cher suggested (Enigma *is* great!) ...
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> hugs to you!,
> zinya
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Posted by NThompson on June 25, 2003, at 1:33:44
In reply to Re: Effexor XR Dreams......... » Rickey, posted by KimberlyDi on June 23, 2003, at 10:42:42
Hey there Kim,
I have seen a few people talking about not being able to have orgasms when on Effexor XR, that is what I am on. I only started on the 13th of this month. When did you notice that you couldn't have them anymore? I am really scared about this. My husband and I have a great sex life and I like that I get an orgasm be fore he does. He makes sure of that. We even have sex 3-4 times a week, except for the week I'm on my monthly. I really like my orgasms, how do I keep them? Please help me with this one. The bedroom has been the only place in my life for the past few years that I feel that I have control over! When we are together, I don't think about anything but us. Making love and being in love. I can control anything there.
Thanks for listening,
NThompson
Posted by catri on June 25, 2003, at 9:50:04
In reply to Should I stop effexor, posted by racergurl74 on June 22, 2003, at 21:19:10
Hi, I just wanted to say that if done properly, effexor withdrawal is problem free, if supervised correctly..... Here's my story - I've been on effexor 75mg for half a year and before that, prozac for another half year. This summer I had decided that if there was at all a time to be myself again and come off the meds, then now is it. First of all, my doc lowered me onto 37mg a day for (get this) a month, followed by another month of 37mg on alternate days. Toward the end of this month I begin to feel as if enough was enough and actually just quit. The first week med-free the only withdrawal symptons I got were a weird 'whoosey' sensation if I turned my head too fast, and that has since long gone. I'm posting this as a reassurance to people out there who are scared of withdrawing, that its fine done in a controlled (by the doc) and tapered way....and also for people who are scared to go on the drug because of the withdrawal effects. Perhaps its a bit different in England where I live, because we have free healthcare, so its no expense at all having these long withdrawal periods. And I guess that everyone is different, so perhaps I was just fortunate. Good luck to anyone coming off, no matter how easy or difficult they find it. Now I have to cope with the anxiety I had before instead, but I want to give it a go using natural methods (exercise, diet) rather than meds.
Posted by racergurl74 on June 25, 2003, at 10:17:18
In reply to effexor withdrawal IS FINE, posted by catri on June 25, 2003, at 9:50:04
Hi, It's so great to hear about your experience. I wish you continued success. How long have you been med free? Do you feel the anxiety is worse than before{pre-meds}? Have you had any problems with anger or temper tantrums? Continuing my story, the nauseau I had for two days is gone, but I'm not so sure it was a side effect because other relatives that I had been with alot had nauseau too and even some vomitting. I did take half of my dose on Sunday but decided not to on Monday and today because I felt sleepy all day on Sunday. Monday and today so far, have been fine only a little temper with my children that is unusual. I'm so hopeful after reading your story, please keep us updated. > Hi, I just wanted to say that if done properly, effexor withdrawal is problem free, if supervised correctly..... Here's my story - I've been on effexor 75mg for half a year and before that, prozac for another half year. This summer I had decided that if there was at all a time to be myself again and come off the meds, then now is it. First of all, my doc lowered me onto 37mg a day for (get this) a month, followed by another month of 37mg on alternate days. Toward the end of this month I begin to feel as if enough was enough and actually just quit. The first week med-free the only withdrawal symptons I got were a weird 'whoosey' sensation if I turned my head too fast, and that has since long gone. I'm posting this as a reassurance to people out there who are scared of withdrawing, that its fine done in a controlled (by the doc) and tapered way....and also for people who are scared to go on the drug because of the withdrawal effects. Perhaps its a bit different in England where I live, because we have free healthcare, so its no expense at all having these long withdrawal periods. And I guess that everyone is different, so perhaps I was just fortunate. Good luck to anyone coming off, no matter how easy or difficult they find it. Now I have to cope with the anxiety I had before instead, but I want to give it a go using natural methods (exercise, diet) rather than meds.
Posted by bikermiker on June 25, 2003, at 10:58:46
In reply to Re: effexor withdrawal IS FINE » catri, posted by racergurl74 on June 25, 2003, at 10:17:18
Effexor withdrawal may be going better for you because you never went to a high dose (just 75mg), only stayed on it for a few months and tapered very gradually. I'd like to recount my own experience going (right now) through it. First, some background: I am in excellent health,workout regularly and vigorously, have never done any drugs or had any addictions. I started taking Effexor about two years ago as a result of serious depression and suicidal thoughts that stemmed from the breakout of my marriage. I also started therapy at the same time. The effexor worked very well for me in terms of getting my life back and letting me do the therapy work I needed to do. My doctor worked me up to 225 mg/day of Effexor XR. While I was using, I had manageable side effects (some sexual dysfunction which was alleviated by taking Wellbutrin at the same time). After I left for a trip leaving my meds at home (bad move), and experiencing horrible withdrawal, I decided that I did not need this thing anymore and asked my doctor to get me off of it. At the time I was at 150mg. He tapered me down to 112mg, then 75, 37.5, then 37.5 every third day, all of this over the course of 5 weeks. During the last two weeks, I was taking a low dose of Prozac. I have been now totally drug free for a little over a week. I have a hard time staying awake and sleep like a log. I did not experience the vivid dreams, anxiety and mood swings that accompanied my previous (forced) withdrawal from the drug, but I have had brain shivers (not as bad or as frequent), irritability, diarrhea, nausea (mild), occasional headaches and itching. The most disabling side effect for me is the constant tiredness. I take naps during the day, and that helps a bit. In general I would say my withdrawal symptoms are relatively mild, but I am not functioning at anywhere near 100%.
Posted by melley on June 25, 2003, at 12:43:22
In reply to Re: effexor withdrawal IS FINE, posted by bikermiker on June 25, 2003, at 10:58:46
> Effexor withdrawal may be going better for you because you never went to a high dose (just 75mg), only stayed on it for a few months and tapered very gradually. I'd like to recount my own experience going (right now) through it. First, some background: I am in excellent health,workout regularly and vigorously, have never done any drugs or had any addictions. I started taking Effexor about two years ago as a result of serious depression and suicidal thoughts that stemmed from the breakout of my marriage. I also started therapy at the same time. The effexor worked very well for me in terms of getting my life back and letting me do the therapy work I needed to do. My doctor worked me up to 225 mg/day of Effexor XR. While I was using, I had manageable side effects (some sexual dysfunction which was alleviated by taking Wellbutrin at the same time). After I left for a trip leaving my meds at home (bad move), and experiencing horrible withdrawal, I decided that I did not need this thing anymore and asked my doctor to get me off of it. At the time I was at 150mg. He tapered me down to 112mg, then 75, 37.5, then 37.5 every third day, all of this over the course of 5 weeks. During the last two weeks, I was taking a low dose of Prozac. I have been now totally drug free for a little over a week. I have a hard time staying awake and sleep like a log. I did not experience the vivid dreams, anxiety and mood swings that accompanied my previous (forced) withdrawal from the drug, but I have had brain shivers (not as bad or as frequent), irritability, diarrhea, nausea (mild), occasional headaches and itching. The most disabling side effect for me is the constant tiredness. I take naps during the day, and that helps a bit. In general I would say my withdrawal symptoms are relatively mild, but I am not functioning at anywhere near 100%.
I would agree with you as to the higher amount. I took my last effexor a week ago yesterday...down from 225mg. My dr did the every two weeks reducing the amount. It hasn't been too, too bad; nothing I couldn't tolerate. I am now on 300mg of wellbutrin. I have been having some of the same symptoms you had, and am relieved to hear it might just be the getting the effexor out of my system. mm
Posted by KimberlyDi on June 25, 2003, at 13:27:50
In reply to Re: Effexor XR for KimberlyDi » KimberlyDi, posted by NThompson on June 25, 2003, at 1:33:44
Hello NT,
I'm sorry to say that I am 100% unable (so far) to achieve orgasm (after 1 month, from 37.5mg daily to 200mg daily). But it should be reasonable to have hope that (once I reach my most effective dosage and the SE's subside) I'll finally achieve orgasm again. I was on Wellbutrin successfully for MANY years and had no problem with orgasm. Before that I was on Paxil, for over a year, and never had one then. OK, I cheated some and quit taking the Paxil for a few days, and crammed in all the "O's" I could get for a day or two. <sigh> Your mileage may vary.Good luck!
Kimp.s. if you find a solution, post it please!!!!!
> Hey there Kim,
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> I have seen a few people talking about not being able to have orgasms when on Effexor XR, that is what I am on. I only started on the 13th of this month. When did you notice that you couldn't have them anymore? I am really scared about this. My husband and I have a great sex life and I like that I get an orgasm be fore he does. He makes sure of that. We even have sex 3-4 times a week, except for the week I'm on my monthly. I really like my orgasms, how do I keep them? Please help me with this one. The bedroom has been the only place in my life for the past few years that I feel that I have control over! When we are together, I don't think about anything but us. Making love and being in love. I can control anything there.
> Thanks for listening,
> NThompson
Posted by heather elle on June 25, 2003, at 16:31:51
In reply to Re: Effexor XR for KimberlyDi, posted by KimberlyDi on June 25, 2003, at 13:27:50
I tried taking effexor for 2 days (only 25 mg. daily!) and felt sooo wierd- self conscious, anxious, unable to speak to people and extremely mentally fuzzy. I also couldn't eat and had trouble sleeping. The thing is, I could feel it working on my depression a bit- I had more energy and motivation for sure. I really don't think this was a placebo effect as I have been on several other AD's. But there is no way I could deal w/ those side effects, it was so trippy and wierd and uncomfortable. Has anyone else felt these things to this extent and/ or know if they would go away with time?
Posted by bornred on June 25, 2003, at 22:53:02
In reply to Re: Effexor XR for KimberlyDi » KimberlyDi, posted by NThompson on June 25, 2003, at 1:33:44
I know what you mean. I have lost my sex drive unless I am under the influence of alcohol. I haven't told my doctor this as I am also on depo and have been having yucky side effects from depo even thought I have been on it for years now. I dont know what we can do about the sex drive... I am going to make an appt. to see my doc soon. Once I do, I will let you know what happens on regards to this.
Posted by jtc on June 25, 2003, at 22:53:05
In reply to Re: effexor withdrawal IS FINE » catri, posted by racergurl74 on June 25, 2003, at 10:17:18
Hi, I am happy to hear about both of your experiences. I have been off of Effexor for about 3 months now and I have been feeling okay. But now I am starting to get depressed, angry and agitated at my kids. It is not their fault but unfortunately they are home with me all day since school is out and they get the brunt of the anger and irritability and it is not fair to them. I am also starting to have more anxiety to the point of mild panic attacks and very nervous feelings. I wonder if I should be back on an antidepressant. I have been trying to exercise for almost two months now by running and walking and I think it is helping but I still cannot control my temper at my children or my husband (my husband deserves the temper tantrums directed at him because he treats me like a child, I think that is the reason for my problems). I am still taking Klonopin .5 mg a day. What do you all think? Thanks in advance for your advice and continued success to you both...jtc
> Hi, It's so great to hear about your experience. I wish you continued success. How long have you been med free? Do you feel the anxiety is worse than before{pre-meds}? Have you had any problems with anger or temper tantrums? Continuing my story, the nauseau I had for two days is gone, but I'm not so sure it was a side effect because other relatives that I had been with alot had nauseau too and even some vomitting. I did take half of my dose on Sunday but decided not to on Monday and today because I felt sleepy all day on Sunday. Monday and today so far, have been fine only a little temper with my children that is unusual. I'm so hopeful after reading your story, please keep us updated. > Hi, I just wanted to say that if done properly, effexor withdrawal is problem free, if supervised correctly..... Here's my story - I've been on effexor 75mg for half a year and before that, prozac for another half year. This summer I had decided that if there was at all a time to be myself again and come off the meds, then now is it. First of all, my doc lowered me onto 37mg a day for (get this) a month, followed by another month of 37mg on alternate days. Toward the end of this month I begin to feel as if enough was enough and actually just quit. The first week med-free the only withdrawal symptons I got were a weird 'whoosey' sensation if I turned my head too fast, and that has since long gone. I'm posting this as a reassurance to people out there who are scared of withdrawing, that its fine done in a controlled (by the doc) and tapered way....and also for people who are scared to go on the drug because of the withdrawal effects. Perhaps its a bit different in England where I live, because we have free healthcare, so its no expense at all having these long withdrawal periods. And I guess that everyone is different, so perhaps I was just fortunate. Good luck to anyone coming off, no matter how easy or difficult they find it. Now I have to cope with the anxiety I had before instead, but I want to give it a go using natural methods (exercise, diet) rather than meds.
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Posted by bikermiker on June 26, 2003, at 16:59:59
In reply to do effexor side effects lessen a lot w/ time?, posted by heather elle on June 25, 2003, at 16:31:51
My understanding is that there would be NO effect on your depression after just a couple of days. I am coming off the Effexor now, and can vouch for how real the withdrawal effects are. For me, therapy, emotional support, exercise and nutrition have probably been far more effective than any AD could have been, as they allowed me to address the underlying issues and build a more sustainable emotional structure.
I don't know the circumstances of your depression, so you may be in a far different situation. In retrospect, I think I could have achieved the same results without ADs and I don't think the risks were worth it (I was ill-informed about them).
> I tried taking effexor for 2 days (only 25 mg. daily!) and felt sooo wierd- self conscious, anxious, unable to speak to people and extremely mentally fuzzy. I also couldn't eat and had trouble sleeping. The thing is, I could feel it working on my depression a bit- I had more energy and motivation for sure. I really don't think this was a placebo effect as I have been on several other AD's. But there is no way I could deal w/ those side effects, it was so trippy and wierd and uncomfortable. Has anyone else felt these things to this extent and/ or know if they would go away with time?
Posted by countess on June 26, 2003, at 19:38:49
In reply to Anyone had success on Effexor XR? , posted by jp on October 24, 1999, at 14:59:14
i've noticed that my side effects are lessening. i'm on my second week of effexor xr at 75mg. i have my appetite back. i don't have headaches. i feel less groggy during the day. i switched from taking my med at night to the a.m. i still have insomnia but not nearly as bad as before. i feel a bit more relaxed at night and can eventually go to sleep which i couldn't do before at all. i feel that the insomnia will improve over time. i think the key to this med. is patience. i'm hoping for the best. my jaw is tense which i hope will go away too. take care everyone!
Posted by scoot7 on June 26, 2003, at 21:40:43
In reply to side effects lessen over time, posted by countess on June 26, 2003, at 19:38:49
i just started my second week of effexor too. upped it to 75mg yesterday. i was terrified about the thought of upping it because the first week on only 37.5mg was pure hell! speedy...sketchy...shaky...no appetite (a good thing too though i guess!)...constant smoking...crazy bladder...sleepless sweaty nights. i was so nervous and sketched out i had to leave and go to my mom's house one night when my boyfriend had his friends over. i didn't want anyone to see me! i kept going back and forth between thoughts of "it'll get better, just give it time" and "i have to stop taking effexor, i'm freaking out, i can't do this anymore!". but going up to 75mg was so easy!!! i was high, dizzy and lightheaded yesterday but nowhere near as sketched out. plus it totally zonked me out. i had to keep busy so i wouldn't noticed how tired i was and how achy i felt. but today i feel great! a little weird feeling in the morning but it wore off fast. i think the drug is starting to take effect too. i'm taking it for mainly anxiety, and mild depression. i just notice i feel calmer in a lot of situations that would normally have me pulling my hair out. i don't feel like everyone is staring at me. hell...i'm even having a bad hair day today and i could give two shits!!
hang in there! the worst is almost over!
Posted by racergurl74 on June 26, 2003, at 22:39:54
In reply to Re: effexor withdrawal IS FINE, posted by jtc on June 25, 2003, at 22:53:05
Hi,
Your situation sounds alot like mine. I was only on effexor for 7 days and now have been off for 7 days. I do notice that I am alot more agitated with the children.(I have one 15, then 10 & 8 ) I have been "going off" on my teenager for simple things. Giving her loud, long, speeches with lots of anger over small details. I don't like feeling so angry. With prozac and effexor I NEVER got angry about ANYTHING. But then again, is that what I want from life anyway. I have justified stopping my meds by saying, "considering all the side effects I guess I can live with some temper tanrums."(long enough to see if it fades)I've never really had major depression and it seems ridiculous to take medication to keep from feeling normal emotions about certain life situations. Not to mean that alot of people don't actually need AD's, I think they are a wonderful thing. I just hope that it doesn't mean I need them for the rest of my life. How long should it take to be absolutely back to normal and drug free?
Posted by racergurl74 on June 26, 2003, at 22:51:43
In reply to Re: do effexor side effects lessen a lot w/ time?, posted by bikermiker on June 26, 2003, at 16:59:59
How much do you feel that diet and exercise play a role in treatment. I am a food-a-holic and would like to change. I know all the benefits of nutrition. I just wonder if it's actually all the it's cracked up to be.
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