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no legal counsel

Posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:28:46

I think it goes like this...

A branch of government. A branch of the executive, I mean to say.

For example: One of the district health boards. Or one of the Universities. A large organisation like that with a lot of money.

What they do is they employ a lawyer to provide legal advise to them. They believe that legal privaledge or something like that actually means that the commissioning party then owns that advise. The counsel can't show it to anybody else. The University can show it to third party if and when it chooses only.

That's what they believe.

Because there was this thing... Was it last year?? About how the lawyer who wrote the report that x action was likely to be considered unlawful in some court or other... About how teh fact that they had been advised against the course of action that they chose to pursue... That could actually be evidence employed in a court against them.

That is to say... Well... Imagine if that wasn't the case.

Imagine if the Auckland District Health Board (for example) was to hire a lawyer to write a confidential report basically that whatever they chose to do was lawful. For example, to say that the CE wasn't personally or criminally responsible at all for atrocities committed in tehir hospital during their time as CE.

The District Health Board (a branch of government) could employ many many many many lawyers to write them confidential reports...

Every now and then they would get a keeper. One that proclaimed that the lawyer couldn't see any reason why they would or could be held to account.

That one might have their NZ law Degree acknowledged by the NZ government!

And the implicit thing is, of course, that the ones who advise against it... Won't get to continue on. They won't get their Degrees acknowledge. They won't get their professional accreditation. Or, at the very least, they won't get asked to write another report by a branch of NZ government.

So teh idea is financial ruin. Because they won't get contracts. No jobs.

So the remainder...

We have large firms who have all been employed by adn kept on payroll by the government for their willingness to write reports saying teh government can do anything it wants.

And the partners have all taken out liability insurance. It used to be 1 million and it recently got increased to 1.3 million.

So that when a senior partner of a firm writes legal advise that something is okay... And it later is found not to be... Then the government can get money back from teh insurance company for the dodgey legal advice form the lawyer.

I imagine that is why lawyers won't competently prosecute government employees for corruption and the like.

I imagine that is why anyone I contact who seems competent says they are conflicted out.

We are a tiny f*ck*ng tinpot little country.

I guess enough people document the crimes of the...

Present administration.

That's the thing. Thinking of 'government' is one thing.... But the problem is the administration (or lack of it or corruption wthin it). That is the problem really.

Too many administrators administrating teh money me-wards. Lots of the problems are simply epiphenomenon of that. Steam byproduct of the workigns of the steam engine. The workings of the diversion of money. The byproducts of not using the money to fund teh wages and goods and so on that it was supposed to be spent on.


The lack of infrastructure. They refuse to legistlate for balance of power so that accountability curbs or limits greed.

I am sure the best of intentions becomes corrupted iwth unlimited power. It isn't a fair position to put anybody in. I think history shows us that over and over and over and over and over...

The government is going to pay the Mongrel Mob (a nz maaori gang) to provide housing to gang members when they are released from jail for them and their family members to live in. While they remain patched members of the mongrel mob.


Because who is the government presently giving the money to in order to provide housing to gang members when they are released from jail?

Did the govermetn provide rehab to the gang members so that there was a way of life for them on release?


People don't want mongrel mob gang members and their families moving in because of the tenandy that there is for loud music into the small hours. Loudly reving motorcycles into the small hours. methamphetamine related crime rages. INto the small hours.

where did the money go -- again???


Re: no legal counsel

Posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:39:17

In reply to no legal counsel, posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:28:46

i mean the emergency accommodation racket... because that is what it is. the get quick rich scheme.

you go... it isn't ideal that the government give money to the mongrel mob to, effectively, reclaim gang members upon release. it really ensures that there isn't a way out of the gang for them. i guess they haven't given up their patch is the idea. it used to be 'mongrel mob forever' was tattooed across the face. but now there is an increased prevalence of full face tattoos... such that... it is possible to have 'mongrel mob forever' removed from ones face... if one doesn't mind ones face showing that that is what one has done, of course. because it isn't hard to tell when someone has chosen to ink their face such that they could possibly have done it in order to obstruct that particular tattoo...

we don't believe in bonding. we believe in branding.

they are going to microchip harness horses now rather than branding their necks.

it is disingenous to think people aren't microchipped.

at least some of them.


there's something in rhode island about... ownership of hospital... something about a way of demonstrating committment to the long-term financial sustainability of them. to make that a stipulation or something of ownership. that's the idea. to prevent people investing with the intent to gut the place for short term profits.

of course that's slightly yesterday thinking in terms of the profits that could be made...

doing it properly (fairly) is always going to be more sustainable long term.

because if you exploit someone for your own personal advantage it's only that much more likely that one gets murdered.

the noise made by landlords.



Re: no legal counsel

Posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:46:07

In reply to Re: no legal counsel, posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:39:17

i live in a building that is a leaky building. architects aren't engineers and they have a tendancy to make things that look pretty that are impracticable.

dad used to say.

the trouble is that wood is something that expands and contracts. it absorbs water. it dries out in the sun.

the measurements can't be as precise as an architect would suppose when they are drawing plans with a very fine pencil or pen with a calibrated ruler.

planks of wood just don't come that precise.

and there would be little point because of thermal expansion and so on.

he didn't quite put it like that. but the basic point was that the architects were dreamers.

anyhoo... there is a plan or style of building. medeterranian or something. and the problem is that the storm water guttering is not adequate to our climate. we get sort of tropical downpours periodically and you need a good system whereby water is quickly cleared and doesn't pool on a surface. don't get me started on mosquitos and maleria. i'm just thinking about things like rooftops. balconies. water pools because the sloping isn't adequate for it to drain properly. particularly with flat surfaces. and with the mederanian style the water actually gets inside the walls and drips down inside the walls. inside concrete. inside wood. and there's this black mold / fungus species that grows in nz. and it is toxic. gets in the lungs.

i can smell it a bit where i am. there is this dust...

i'ts all over, though. the last place i was in. again with the dust.

you need air conditioners with filtration. then clean out the filters. the dust.. grows. a fuzzy mould... it clogs the ventillation systems.

i suppose it's the low lying costal. it's supposed to be swampy. it's the liver or the kidneys or something. people aren't supposed to live in those climates.


Re: no legal counsel

Posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:48:30

In reply to Re: no legal counsel, posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:46:07

it's the quarter of teh population that the government most wants to die. you could look at it that way. i'm sure that they do. with the whole hierarchy of being thing that they have. the people they force to live in the lowest quarter -- they should be grateful that they have anything anything anythign at all!!!!!

they should be grateful that every day they show their face... they aren't beaten to death by the people they are supposed to be serving / helping.

helping you helping you helping you helping me help myself to you...


Re: no legal counsel

Posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:51:18

In reply to Re: no legal counsel, posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:48:30

but it's okay!
they have medical care!

people tell them 'you have x or y or z'.

people tell them 'you are lucky! you can give me your prostate or uterus or...'

'and then you can go free!'

you are so lucky i foudn something wrong and fixed you.

i really should get a microscope...

i am a bit curious about whether my mother really does have abnormal cells...

or if it's just what seems convenient for them to have me believe...

apparently there are two ways that conditions (every condition) goes in nz.

teh first way is slow progression so just data collect.
the second way is quick progresseion so death.
but of course there is always the third way of harvesting bits and bobs along the way.

what did they do with teh bits they took?


Re: no legal counsel

Posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:53:56

In reply to Re: no legal counsel, posted by alexandra_k on April 30, 2021, at 19:51:18

apparently the world won't give us euthansaia drugs.

so they are looking into having pharmacists mix up something they believe will be a lethan combination.

there is some privacy restriction request demand whatever so that the pharmacists can't tell anybody what the new zealand government has approved them to give to people in new zealand who have allegedly consented to be euthanised.

none of this seems even slightly plausible.

in the sense of being things that won't be held to account.

i wonder how many lawyers have informed the government that this planned course of action seems totally legit.

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