Psycho-Babble Psychology Thread 999711

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EMDR yesterday

Posted by floatingbridge on October 14, 2011, at 14:56:23

It is an interesting process. The term compressed analysis came to mind. Not that I have been in analysis but because of the free association.

I was told it might be like watching the scenery move past the windows of a train as they might appear to a passenger. There is a romance in this analogy I find comforting.

Today I feel bouts of saddness. Just tearing up in the middle of whatever.

There is a lot of sh*t in the world. I would like it if that no longer held my primary attention.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by sigismund on October 14, 2011, at 17:41:29

In reply to EMDR yesterday, posted by floatingbridge on October 14, 2011, at 14:56:23

From what I sense about you, the problem with you and the sh*t in the world is that it bothers you.

I feel a little defensive on the subject of me and sh*t in the world because I have a small library of 20 years reading on the sh*t of the world. I don't think it bothered me really, not like it does you. My focus was the collection of evidence. As in 'You think *you've* got problems?' This is, I admit, setting the bar as low as it can be set.

It was when I realised that I had two copies of Christopher Browning's book on the Holocaust and that I had read one and a half without realising that I felt enough was enough

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 14, 2011, at 20:26:05

In reply to EMDR yesterday, posted by floatingbridge on October 14, 2011, at 14:56:23

Hey fb, just reading and wishing you well :-)
Scenes from a train? Interesting


"Everybody loves the sound of a train in the distance
Everybody thinks it's true
Everybody loves the sound of a train in the distance
Everybody thinks it's true
What is the point of this story
What information pertains
The thought that life could be better
Is woven indelibly
Into our hearts
And our brains"

 

Re: EMDR yesterday sleepygirl2

Posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 17:42:16

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge, posted by sleepygirl2 on October 14, 2011, at 20:26:05

Thanks SG.. We'll see. My mood is defintely not as good.

Did you write the little song?

I wonder how things are your way.

Good wishes sent your way as well.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 17:46:12

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on October 14, 2011, at 17:41:29

sigi, I don't understand. I read this as I am just being anal or something....

Yes, it bothers me.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by Phillipa on October 16, 2011, at 19:31:00

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 17:46:12

He will reply. I know he will Phillipa

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by Dinah on October 16, 2011, at 20:48:35

In reply to EMDR yesterday, posted by floatingbridge on October 14, 2011, at 14:56:23

It did absolutely nothing for me. But then, I didn't do it with my own therapist. Perhaps that level of trust would have helped. EMDR therapist's arm got tired, and she asked if we could quit.

"There is a lot of sh*t in the world. I would like it if that no longer held my primary attention."

I hope one day you will be able to let your attention wander to the positives of life. I don't think I'll ever forget the lessons of Katrina. I've nearly forgotten the looting and disorder, and instead remember the many many ordinary heroes who did so much good. The bad in this world just gets more press. I don't want to wish for anyone such a traumatic pivotal moment, but I hope for a quiet and relatively peaceful pivotal moment for you.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund

Posted by Dinah on October 16, 2011, at 20:55:38

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on October 14, 2011, at 17:41:29

I am always bemused by the fact that you find a relief from depression in tales of misery and horror, Sigi. It has quite the opposite effect on me. Does it truly make you feel better? It doesn't keep you depressed to dwell on the awful?

I do recall getting over my fear of death (to a large degree) by remembering my ancestors and picturing their worlds of plagues and looting and pillaging by rampaging armies. My people were serfs, and death was no stranger to them.

I am so grateful to live today. Whatever the ills of the modern world, I have to consider it an improvement over what my ancestors had to live with.

Is your experience something similar? Does it bring you to a recognition of gratitude?

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by Dinah on October 16, 2011, at 20:57:11

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 17:46:12

I think it's a statement of Sigi's philosophy of life, floatingbridge, more than a comment on your way of seeing things. He has often spoken of it.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday Dinah

Posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 21:21:53

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge, posted by Dinah on October 16, 2011, at 20:48:35

Eh, I feel pretty reactive right now. I realized I should not have posted feeling as vulnerable as I do. Yes, you had Katrina to contend with. I felt upset just watching the bits I allowed myself on the news. But after the first of the alarmist media reports died back, new stories came in, like people driving their boats to rescue people, even dogs off rooftops. I did focus on the stories of the ordinary people. Because I seem to cling stubbornly to kindness.

My therapist used a light box. I can't imagine her moving her arm back and forth. That makes me smile, the thought of someone keeping up. Would give a new dimension to the training needed to be undertaken to practice EMDR. Endurance training.

My brain is not working too well right now. And my humor is
low. Not good. I'll need to pace myself, I can see that.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 16, 2011, at 21:38:15

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday Dinah, posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 21:21:53

Is this bringing forth a lot of stuff for you fb?
Maybe that's a stupid question? It's EMDR after all.
I haven't done EMDR, but I have experienced feeling a lot when I didn't expect it, and having a gush of emotion to contend with.
Take good care of yourself, be kind to yourself.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 16, 2011, at 21:47:39

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 17:42:16

Oh, it's a Paul Simon song that I think of when the subject of trains comes up.

For me it's about hearing some train rattling off somewhere and imagining things better somewhere else. We have to believe that, I have to anyway. If not better in another place, then at least in time.
Maybe it's about hope? a hopefulness about where things will end up?
I have to believe things will change for the better. I believe it for you too.
In the meantime, I wish you comfort, in whatever small ways it comes.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday floatingbridge

Posted by sigismund on October 17, 2011, at 10:34:38

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on October 16, 2011, at 17:46:12

No, I didn't mean that. I meant you are a gentle person who is bothered by evil.

And why not?

There is nothing anal about that. Different strokes for different folks. I probably expressed myself badly.

The point about Christopher Browning (which was irrelevant anyway) is that he is the most detailed historian I have read, and I read one of his books twice without realising it.

I was just babbling on.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday Dinah

Posted by sigismund on October 17, 2011, at 10:40:07

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund, posted by Dinah on October 16, 2011, at 20:55:38

I don't know. I'm just relieved you didn't take offence.

I was talking to my wife this morning about tombstones. I am normally against them but I liked 'People made him sick'. The other one I read about once goes
'Here lies someone
who
is no business
of yours'

Do those books help? I dunno. They help me to feel like I'm not suffocating. That is a strange thing to say but it is true. It must mean I believe in the reality of evil and in the reality of its concealment. What other sense can be made of it?

 

Re: EMDR yesterday) Dinah

Posted by sigismund on October 17, 2011, at 10:54:35

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday Dinah, posted by sigismund on October 17, 2011, at 10:40:07

No Dinah, I am rarely grateful for life.

And my life is so easy.

Gratitude is heaven itself.
No greater misfortune than having been born.

That is a a polarity.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on October 17, 2011, at 13:21:43

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday Dinah, posted by sigismund on October 17, 2011, at 10:40:07

I like "here lies someone who is no business of yours."
Brings to mind Cormac McCarthy.

Do they say this in Australia, "she'll be right, mate"? Translated into modern US English as 'no worries' or even further, 'it's all good'?

I spent the weekend sleep deprived, reducing gabapentin, and being generally humorless. My apologies.

 

Re: EMDR yesterday) Dinah sigismund

Posted by Dinah on October 17, 2011, at 17:39:34

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday) Dinah, posted by sigismund on October 17, 2011, at 10:54:35

I wasn't at all offended. But if you find yourself that miserable, might it be better to quit submerging yourself in misery? It might seep in. There us good and bad in life. Maybe you need to focus on the good a bit more?

 

How are you fb?

Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 22, 2011, at 9:02:16

In reply to Re: EMDR yesterday sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on October 17, 2011, at 13:21:43

:-)

 

Re: How are you fb? sleepygirl2

Posted by Phillipa on October 22, 2011, at 19:06:54

In reply to How are you fb?, posted by sleepygirl2 on October 22, 2011, at 9:02:16

Sleepy not posting at all? Phillipa

 

Re: How are you fb? sleepygirl2

Posted by floatingbridge on October 22, 2011, at 19:29:17

In reply to How are you fb?, posted by sleepygirl2 on October 22, 2011, at 9:02:16

Hi SG,

I'm okay. Thanks for asking. Feeling a bit better.

How have things been with you? Dreaming?

I did have a water dream. I was swimming in comfortable warm water. No drama. I woke up and thought that was pretty nice. I was also in my mid-thirties. For some reason, I think of myself as mid-thirties and am constantly chagrined that that was a long time ago. So it was pretty nice actually being that age again.

 

Re: How are you fb? floatingbridge

Posted by sleepygirl2 on October 22, 2011, at 23:26:57

In reply to Re: How are you fb? sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on October 22, 2011, at 19:29:17

> Hi SG,
>
> I'm okay. Thanks for asking. Feeling a bit better.
>
> How have things been with you? Dreaming?
>
> I did have a water dream. I was swimming in comfortable warm water. No drama. I woke up and thought that was pretty nice. I was also in my mid-thirties. For some reason, I think of myself as mid-thirties and am constantly chagrined that that was a long time ago. So it was pretty nice actually being that age again.

excellent, a good dream :-)

I was sobbing in my sleep recently. I dreamt that my brother had died, and that I had no money for christmas presents.
fyi- there's nothing wrong with my brother, and he is alive
he has pissed me off recently though
the no money for christmas presents..well that's just true.

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.


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