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Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls

Posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 15:22:05

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort fairywings, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 14:09:25

Falls -

I'll try my best to help catch you in any way I can. At least I can tell you what's for dinner ....

I love routine too. And I like to be in control of it. I know what you mean. I am a person with TONS of energy, but I don't like my plate to be too full. I like having my nothing time (to be on babble, listen to music, read a book). If a friend calls and says, "So you're home, let's go out for lunch," that could stress me out, it wasn't on my agenda, I didn't plan for it, etc.

I understand. Even if you miss a therapy appointment because of something fun you have planned for (visit with your daughter, Toronto), you still feel the loss. I feel that too. Will it ever go away?

It's so nice that your T gave you his hotel phone number --- very generous. He didn't see "What about Bob?"? : -)

You have been so helpful to me. I hope you will let me help you in any way I can.

If we lived just a few hours closer, we could go out for ice cream. We have the best homemade ice shop just down the street --- you wouldn't believe the portions or the taste ---- Mmmmmm. First, I'd take you to my new place I found for yoga. It's awesome. The room is so peaceful and the teachers are kind hearted. We'd have a great day.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose

Posted by madeline on March 10, 2006, at 16:41:01

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls, posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 15:22:05

I wish I lived closer to you! That does sound like a wonderful day!

Of course, I don't know where you live, so you might just be next door. But it still sounds like a lovely time.

Maddie

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose

Posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 17:06:01

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls, posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 15:22:05

I'd love to come have ice cream and yoga with you! As long as I can use the Star Trek transporter to get there!

Thanks for your support.

Even with all this travelling, I think I only missed one session. He tries really hard with me to reschedule the one when I'm sitting on a bus or train, and phone sessions from my hotel (or my daughter's bedroom) work pretty well. We've sort of figured out the phone session technique. Certainly not as good as being there, but we do get real work done on the phone.

The very first vacation he took after I started working with him (2 months in?), he offered to schedule a phone session with me - in the middle of his vacation! I tried to warn him about the dangers of being a workaholic. But he said that he'd rather interrupt his vacation than come back to a mess. (We decided that I would be able to survive the two weeks, but he did give me his cell phone number - so I could call him while he was sailing on the ocean!) This is the first hard vacation I've had since then.

P.S. I had ice cream for lunch, was that OK?

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort madeline

Posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 17:11:16

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose, posted by madeline on March 10, 2006, at 16:41:01

I live in Michigan.

Looking out the window today, one might think it's Spring.

Snow is on the forecast for next week. But there is one good thing about living here (well there are many) the weather-people are always wrong.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls fallsfall

Posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 17:17:27

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 17:06:01

Did he offer to phone you? or did you ask?

I just do not think my T would ever do a phone session, although I have never asked. I rarely call her and when I do, I'm just leaving information, not asking for a call back. She does call when I ask (which has only been 1 - 2x per year), it's kind, but to the point, and ends, "We can talk about that on Monday."

Is it a "hard" vacation because it's two weeks (or was that the first vacation), or because of the timing of the vacation?

Gosh I just really wish there was a Star Trek transporter. Can you work on that?

Ice cream for lunch sounds perfect. When it's movie night with our kids, we (my husband and I) just have the popcorn for dinner.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose

Posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 18:18:51

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls fallsfall, posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 17:17:27

He didn't offer to call, and I didn't ask. It is enough to know that he is sincere that I could call him if I want to. Not that he expects me to need to... It is quite the tightrope to walk being open to being called without giving the patient the impression that you expect them to fall apart.

It is a hard vacation for a bunch of reasons. First, I'm overwhelmed with things not following my routine - and missing therapy because he's on vacation certainly doesn't follow my routine. Second, I have been pushing myself a lot - taking a lot of risks because I know that he is there to catch me. So I'm sort of "out there" these days. And I'm in the middle of a couple of things (a group project and a conversation with a prof on the topic for my final paper) that I'd rather not attempt on my own. He is helping me a lot to understand the dynamics of what is going on and to decide how to act. So the timing for that stinks. Third, because I'm so "out there" right now, I've been stumbling frequently (every weekish), so the chances of me stumbling next week are very good - unless I change what the risk level, which is kind of hard on the fly. I'm quite afraid of what will happen if I stumble and he isn't there to catch me. It is so much easier to keep from falling down the hole than it is to climb back out of the hole. Currently he keeps me from falling down. I'm afraid if I don't see him for a week that I'll be down the hole by the time he comes back. Fourth, the last couple of weeks have been very busy, and I could use his support to get back on an even keel. Starting his vacation with me not on an even keel doesn't seem like a good way to start...

I know I'm overthinking this. And it will all probably be fine, but I'm feeling very vulnerable today. The timing of his vacation just stinks, that's all.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls fallsfall

Posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 19:41:35

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 18:18:51

I know it stinks. The timing is bad. I'm sorry.

I hope you don't fall down that hole too. You're right. It's easier to fall that to climb back up. So be careful, no tripping. We're here to help.

Regarding the phone ... I was referring to your phone sessions. Did he suggest that or did you ask?

p.s. I got so excited thinking about that ice cream place, I piled my family into the car and we went out for ice cream. My kids were happily shocked.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls

Posted by happyflower on March 10, 2006, at 19:47:31

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 18:18:51

(((((((falls))))) T's vacations are tough, but you will be okay! You have us!!!! Plus what kind of ice cream did ya buy? My local grocery had a sale and I stocked up! Want some?

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls annierose

Posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 21:03:11

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls fallsfall, posted by annierose on March 10, 2006, at 19:41:35

You have lucky kids. Ice cream and you for their mom.

He suggested the phone sessions. I was going to be missing a session taking my daughter on college visits. With a phone session I didn't have to miss the session. Financially advantageous for him. Now that I'm travelling a bit it means I don't have to miss my sessions.

Thanks for your support. I'm going to try not to fall down the hole.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls happyflower

Posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 21:04:42

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls, posted by happyflower on March 10, 2006, at 19:47:31

Thanks, Happyflower, I always like ice cream.

I have Edy's Mint Chocolate Chip right now. It's my favorite.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls

Posted by muffled on March 10, 2006, at 21:53:16

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls happyflower, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 21:04:42

Hey my T is away for 2wks too. She said she'd phone me 1x while she was gone. She's not much for phoning so I'm not holding my breath.
Sounds like you have a great T Falls.
My T is nice too.
I feel kinda lost.
Muffled

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls muffled

Posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 21:56:38

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls, posted by muffled on March 10, 2006, at 21:53:16

Let's go to Camp Comfort, Muffled!

Wanna swing on the swings? And we could roll down the hill, too. or blow bubbles? I want to play there.

What would you like to do?

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls fallsfall

Posted by muffled on March 10, 2006, at 22:05:21

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls muffled, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 21:56:38

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I wanna hang out with my T :-(
OK, snit over....
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......................
Mebbe, make chocolate chip cookies , but eat all the dough before its even cooked!!!!!!!!!!!!
YA!!!

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls muffled

Posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 22:44:33

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls fallsfall, posted by muffled on March 10, 2006, at 22:05:21

Raw chocolate chip cookie dough. Good idea. I'll meet you in the kitchen!

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort fallsfall

Posted by Daisym on March 10, 2006, at 23:34:33

In reply to Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 10:22:54

I've read that it only takes 30 days to ingrain a new routine. In the meantime, we'll be as much of a safety net as possible.

Camp Comfort seems to be needed early this year. My therapist goes on vacation in a month. I guess we need to plan some activities, even spring cleaning can be fun when done with friends.

Funny thing is, the bay area has snow right now, not springlike at all. And we almost never get snow. It is a weird year.

I'm glad you've figured out phone sessions. They have been very important to me. See what adaptations you've already added to your routine.

I know it isn't the same, but I'll catch you if I can and kiss the bumps and bruises if I can't. Just know I'm here.
Hugs,
Daisy

 

Hey, my inside Kid is scared.....

Posted by muffled on March 11, 2006, at 11:56:10

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort -Falls muffled, posted by fallsfall on March 10, 2006, at 22:44:33

can someone tell her its going to be ok? She doesn't beleive me much.

 

Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... muffled

Posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 12:52:40

In reply to Hey, my inside Kid is scared....., posted by muffled on March 11, 2006, at 11:56:10

What is she scared of?

 

Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... fallsfall

Posted by muffled on March 11, 2006, at 13:42:17

In reply to Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... muffled, posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 12:52:40

She scared of stuff inside, and she scared cuz her T is gone a long time, and she scared, well I'm scared thats the Kid will get upset and get me upset and I'll end up doing something stupid.
Muffled

 

Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... muffled

Posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 14:09:03

In reply to Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... fallsfall, posted by muffled on March 11, 2006, at 13:42:17

Let her come play with me at Camp Comfort.

I picked up some rocks when I was walking my dogs, and I'm trying to build a stone wall with them. So I can sit on it to wait for my therapist to come back. But I have to figure out some kind of "cement" because I'm not very good at building a stone wall. Maybe I'll make some clay and use that.

What would make little muffy feel safe? Would she like a teddy bear? Or to hide in a blanket fort? Or maybe you could think of something that would be fun - sort of a distraction. Would she feel better if she could cross the days off on the calendar until your therapist comes back? You can tell her that you don't need to deal with the stuff inside until your therapist comes back. You can put that stuff away in a strong box until she comes back. You don't have to do hard therapy work while she's away - you sort of get a therapy vacation. (Like how I'm going to sit on the wall, and wait for my therapist. When he comes back, then I'll get up and start walking again.)

Let her eat some ice cream. That always makes me feel better.

 

Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort Daisym

Posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 14:11:16

In reply to Re: Routine, Balance, and Camp Comfort fallsfall, posted by Daisym on March 10, 2006, at 23:34:33

HA! It is 10 degrees warmer here than it is there today!

But I don't WANT to change my routine (she whines)...

Thanks for being there in case I start teetering.

 

Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... fallsfall

Posted by muffled on March 11, 2006, at 15:43:04

In reply to Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... muffled, posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 14:09:03

> Let her come play with me at Camp Comfort.

***Thanks
>
> I picked up some rocks when I was walking my dogs, and I'm trying to build a stone wall with them. So I can sit on it to wait for my therapist to come back. But I have to figure out some kind of "cement" because I'm not very good at building a stone wall. Maybe I'll make some clay and use that.

***If there's a river or pond around and you dig down, quite often you can find clay.
>
> What would make little muffy feel safe? sort of a distraction.

**Muffy is never safe, ever. But she can have fun. Can I help you with your wall? We can make it wide so you don't fall off.

> You can put that stuff away in a strong box until she comes back. You don't have to do hard therapy work while she's away - you sort of get a therapy vacation.

***Thats a good thought. In a box, a very strong box. When it tries to come out toughie will come and stuff it back in. Ha!!!

(Like how I'm going to sit on the wall, and wait for my therapist. When he comes back, then I'll get up and start walking again.)

****I can sit too. For awhile. But then I get bored and have to go and look for bugs cuz I love bugs. I can show them to you. Are you scared of bugs, cuz I won't show them to you if you are.
>
> Let her eat some ice cream. That always makes me feel better.

***Cookie dough, I just ate cookie dough. Ugh....I feel kinda sick.....HA!!!!


Thanks Falls, you a good friend.
Muffly.

 

Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared.....

Posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 18:51:36

In reply to Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared..... fallsfall, posted by muffled on March 11, 2006, at 15:43:04

>But I have to figure out some kind of "cement" because I'm not very good at building a stone wall. Maybe I'll make some clay and use that.
>
> ***If there's a river or pond around and you dig down, quite often you can find clay.

Ah, that's an idea. I was going to make play clay from flour and salt and oil and water.
> >
> Can I help you with your wall? We can make it wide so you don't fall off.

Sure you can help! The wall represents my therapy journey. I'm trying to figure out how tall it is, whether it has dropoffs on both sides (or is it a wall holding up a hill?). I do know that it is hard to keep my balance. One thing I do with metaphors that I use is try to see how I can change things within the metaphor to figure out how that would change things in life. For instance, I'm afraid I'll fall off if I walk on the wall, so I can sit down and wait for my therapist to come back - this translates into not pushing myself while he is on vacation. You bring up an interesting change - is there someway that I can make the wall wider, so it is easier to walk on (even temporarily)? I'll have to think about that.

>
> > You can put that stuff away in a strong box until she comes back. You don't have to do hard therapy work while she's away - you sort of get a therapy vacation.
>
> ***Thats a good thought. In a box, a very strong box. When it tries to come out toughie will come and stuff it back in. Ha!!!
>
Put a strong lock on the box so it can't open up.
>
> ****I can sit too. For awhile. But then I get bored and have to go and look for bugs cuz I love bugs. I can show them to you. Are you scared of bugs, cuz I won't show them to you if you are.

I like bugs a lot. My previous career was a software engineer - my specialty was fixing bugs, so I had all sorts of plastic bugs in my office. I think bugs are facinating.
> >
> > Let her eat some ice cream. That always makes me feel better.
>
> ***Cookie dough, I just ate cookie dough. Ugh....I feel kinda sick.....HA!!!!
>
>
Sugar is great, isn't it?

> Thanks Falls, you a good friend.
> Muffly.

I'm glad to have you with me at Camp Comfort. It is nice to have company.

 

Camp Comfort

Posted by gardenergirl on March 12, 2006, at 9:59:14

In reply to Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared....., posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 18:51:36

It's a very good thing Camp Comfort is not in my backyard, because it would be under water. The poor dog doesn't like to get her "delicate paws" wet, but she can't hold it forever!

I may be joining y'all for a bit. I'll know more next week. I love rolling down hills!

gg

 

Not falling off your wall fallsfall

Posted by littleone on March 12, 2006, at 14:56:39

In reply to Re: Hey, my inside Kid is scared....., posted by fallsfall on March 11, 2006, at 18:51:36

> I do know that it is hard to keep my balance. One thing I do with metaphors that I use is try to see how I can change things within the metaphor to figure out how that would change things in life. For instance, I'm afraid I'll fall off if I walk on the wall, so I can sit down and wait for my therapist to come back - this translates into not pushing myself while he is on vacation. You bring up an interesting change - is there someway that I can make the wall wider, so it is easier to walk on (even temporarily)?

You could put railings on your wall. All high walls have railings or balistrade or something. Or warning signs (this could translate to putting notes in strategic places where you think you might slip). And babble could hold your hand.

 

Re: Not falling off your wall - Falls

Posted by annierose on March 12, 2006, at 15:31:58

In reply to Not falling off your wall fallsfall, posted by littleone on March 12, 2006, at 14:56:39

I read "The Secret Life of Bees" awhile back, I remember a character adding stones to her wall when she was sad or anxious. She also wrote down her worries and stuck the paper between the stones. That image stayed with me.

I would like to buid a wall too. It would be nice to walk on top of the wall, skipping when you're are happy, sending a message to my psyche that today I'm on top of things, my worries beneath me.


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