Psycho-Babble Administration Thread 1090160

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Posted by SLS on July 5, 2016, at 6:21:55

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> No further up at the top of Lake Norman. Moorsesville, Nc

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Both you and Lou Pilder have your Babblemail activated. You could easily communicate your messages using this amenity.

Do you really think that your post here is conducive to the effective use of the Medication board? Without moderation, you can do anything you want, of course.

What do YOU want for the Psychobabble Medication board?

Perhaps you can use the Social board?


- Scott

 

Re: ? SLS

Posted by lil jimi on September 8, 2016, at 22:39:30

In reply to ?, posted by SLS on July 5, 2016, at 6:21:55

Hi, Scott,

Jim here.

I remain bewildered. I feel I wander a wilderness that has lost its boundaries.

How is it possible that a great many people I know and admire manage to abjure the simple, effective and obvious admonitions to Not feed, fuel, enable, encourage and energize the unworthy, unnecessary, inappropriate, trivial, uninteresting, insular, inane, echoic noise of the lost, confused creatures who howl their broken inner hollowness at meaningless mirages of their own conjuring?

Everywhere else I go the boundaries are all clearly posted:
"Do NOT Feed the Trolls!!"

How is it avoided that this is THE universal and essential strategy for dealing with this challenge? How is it possible that people here that I know and love allow themselves to be provoked into providing the only sustenance of value that perpetrates the problem? I am Not a genius. How it is that this obvious, simple thing is not as obvious and as inescapable to our friends? How am I missing how they can miss this?

I have a friend who is insane. He has sister who succumbed to late life schizophrenia. I went to High School with my friend. He was my best man at my wedding. We are very close. He comes to me ranting about his sister. "I told her needed to do X for Y! She promised she would! I told her I depended to her to X so she could do Y! She swore she would! She swore it to me on our Mother's grave! Now? Now she won't do X!! She won't! How can she do this to me!"

I say, "Allen, expecting irrational people to behave rationally is irrational. We both know Carol is schizophrenic. Why do you expect her to be rational?"

Allen looks back at me. His eyes are aflame with his insanity. He sees that I am the one expecting him to be rational. Who is more insane?

Should we suspect that Brother Bob has departed and left noisomeness here so the others may learn this from the piddling?

I write this to you because I want to suggest we play a game. I want to suggest we keep score on our friends who want to play. One point for each reaction, interaction, mention or attention of any kind referring to the unmentioned. Lowest score wins.

Starting NOW.

Everybody starts with a Zero. I already deserve a one. I'm already in last place. May I keep score on you, Sir? Would be so kind as to keep score on me, please?

Tell me: Fair enough?

~ Jim

 

Re: ? lil jimi

Posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 23:15:08

In reply to Re: ? SLS, posted by lil jimi on September 8, 2016, at 22:39:30

Jim, you are a really imaginative writer and I appreciate your thoughts.

I picture a different analogy. Instead of Carol being some person your friend deals with out there somewhere, let's make Carol a person who is always in your living room. She talks a mix of 10% sense and 90% nonsense. She talks to you and your guests whether they talk to her or not. Would it be comfortable if everyone just pretended she wasn't there? Would it be comfortable if you told your guests to ignore her, and gave them a demerit any time they talked to her, or even mentioned her? I think that would seem a little weird and unworkable.

 

Re: ?

Posted by lil jimi on September 9, 2016, at 1:07:49

In reply to Re: ? lil jimi, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 23:15:08

> Jim, you are a really imaginative writer and I appreciate your thoughts.
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> I picture a different analogy. Instead of Carol being some person your friend deals with out there somewhere, let's make Carol a person who is always in your living room. She talks a mix of 10% sense and 90% nonsense. She talks to you and your guests whether they talk to her or not. Would it be comfortable if everyone just pretended she wasn't there? Would it be comfortable if you told your guests to ignore her, and gave them a demerit any time they talked to her, or even mentioned her? I think that would seem a little weird and unworkable.

As this reality actually has it, Carol is not the problem. She is very sweet and shy and suffers sheepishly as she is being gently snubbed while she mumbles incessant apologies. On her meds she cooperative and compliant.

My friend, her brother, Allen is the problem. Allen insists she be something she can't. I am Allen's problem. I insist he be a better brother than he can. Carol sometimes rattles on to me to be nicer to Allen. I can't.

In the larger version I expect I am the one to be dismissed. But I love them both and can't make myself let them go. I think we have grown to accept we each have our own insanity.

But when Allen get too riled up he knows Carol and I will talk to each other quietly till he calms down. More than once Carol's caregivers have had law enforcement orders to keep Allen away from his sister. Nothing hurts him so much as when this has happened.

Of course your analogy makes sense if there's no reprieve from unrelenting aggravation. But in that analogy, I think establishing the mandatory signage is the benign, appropriate boundary and defense.

I can be wrong. I am insane.

 

Re: ? lil jimi

Posted by Tabitha on September 9, 2016, at 10:51:43

In reply to Re: ?, posted by lil jimi on September 9, 2016, at 1:07:49

> I think we have grown to accept we each have our own insanity.

You're a wise person, Jim, and it's a heartbreaking story.

Obviously (?) I thought you were making an analogy to LP that cast me in a bad light for interacting with him, and I apologize if I got that wrong.

> Of course your analogy makes sense if there's no reprieve from unrelenting aggravation. But in that analogy, I think establishing the mandatory signage is the benign, appropriate boundary and defense.

I'm not understanding what you mean by "mandatory signage".

> I can be wrong. I am insane.

Regardless, I hope you're feeling a bit better today.

 

Re: ? Tabitha

Posted by lil jimi on September 10, 2016, at 18:19:56

In reply to Re: ? lil jimi, posted by Tabitha on September 9, 2016, at 10:51:43

> > I think we have grown to accept we each have our own insanity.
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> You're a wise person, Jim, and it's a heartbreaking story.
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> Obviously (?) I thought you were making an analogy to LP that cast me in a bad light for interacting with him, and I apologize if I got that wrong.
> j
No apologies are neccassary from you with me. If it weren't for misunderstanding I wouldn't have any understating at all. The pleasure is being allowed, being blessed to be able to overcome these challenges in human communication. It isn't easy and the opportunity is a precious treasure. But, for you, anything!

If I were making an 'analogy' I would imagine it would be you cast as me trying to intervene with Allen for Carol. If that makes the sense I think it might. I'll observe my own admonition by making no reference to anyone else.

> > Of course your analogy makes sense if there's no reprieve from unrelenting aggravation. But in that analogy, I think establishing the mandatory signage is the benign, appropriate boundary and defense.
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> I'm not understanding what you mean by "mandatory signage".

'"Boundaries" marked with "Please Do Not Feed the .... " signs/signage. Insofar as I am imaginative it may be in imagining such an utterly benign passive resistance/defense/'the fence'.
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> > I can be wrong. I am insane.
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> Regardless, I hope you're feeling a bit better today.
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Your compassionate concern for me does and always makes me feel better. Thank you, Tabitha, my kind friend.

I am struggling with side effects which keep me from breathing unless I am very upright so I breath through my nose. Makes sleeping very long impossible. I've gotten less than three hours total in the last 5 days. Sleep deprivation subverts neurotransmitter recovery. Drives me insaner.

I am not looking to cast anyone in any light except myself in my own light/darkness/shadow.
I expect I am most likely to violate our civility rules by being uncivil to myself. I should ban myself but I'll try to be civil. To my own insane self.

Thank you for understanding that I am Not that imaginative a writer. I only paint what I see, he said. And even then, I can always be wrong.

Thank you.


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