Psycho-Babble Administration Thread 428605

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Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 21:29:10

Dr. Hsiung,
You have asked a poster on the faith board to rephrase rather than write to please be civil and then go to an eviction on the second unacceptable post. In fact, there are numerous times that you asked for the poster to rephrase posts that you indicated could have the potential to put down those of other faiths .
I am requesting that you write to me if I have equal treatment as the other poster in question and be free to write numerous posts that you say have the potential to put down those of other faiths and be asked to rephrase rather than be evicted from here. If I am granted that type of equal treatment, then I could feel welcome here as being an equal to the other posters here.
Lou Pilder

 

Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 22:03:18

In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 21:29:10

Dr. Hsiung,
The poster writes,[...we are commamded to believe on the name of the Son Jesus Christ...].
You asked the poster to revise it. Am I going to have equal treatment in respect to this type of post if I was to post like it from the jewish perspective? If so, then I could feel welcome here and an equal member of the community.
Lou PIlder
http://www.dr.bob.org/babble/faith/20040914/msgs/406846.html

 

Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 22:07:39

In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 22:03:18

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20040914/msgs/406846.html

 

Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 13, 2004, at 6:47:49

In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 21:29:10

Dr. Hsiung,
The poster also posted in an offered link in #2:
[...also concerning the dwindling of the jews in unbelief. And after they had slain the Messiah...].
and then in #4
[...after they had dwindled in unbelief they became a dark, and loathsome and filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations...]
and then in #7;
[...they will reject...the true Messiah...the judgments of him that is just shall rest upon them...]
and in #9;
[...they seek to desroy the things of God...]
and in #27;
[...I could not show unto the jews so great miricles because of their unbelief...].
You asked the poster to revise the post, but is deleting the statements a revision? If so, could I be afforded equal treatment here and if you consider what I post from the jewish perspective and then you ask me to revise the post and I can delete what is in question and you will not write in the subject line that it is uncivil?
Could you clarify why you allow the poster to delete the statements without calling those statements uncivil or offensive in the subject line? They are deeply offensive to me and could be deeply offensive to others jews and other people that are not jews. I think that the statements have the potential for some to think that these statements in question referr to jews and I am not a filthy person or loathsome and full of all manner of abominations.
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20041120/msgs/425478.html

 

Re: Lou's request

Posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2004, at 1:39:03

In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-, posted by Lou Pilder on December 12, 2004, at 21:29:10

> I am requesting that you write to me if I have equal treatment as the other poster in question and be free to write numerous posts that you say have the potential to put down those of other faiths and be asked to rephrase rather than be evicted from here. If I am granted that type of equal treatment, then I could feel welcome here as being an equal to the other posters here.

I'm sorry if you feel I'm treating you unfairly. I've been thinking there's a difference between posting something directly and linking to it...

Bob

 

Lou's reply to Dr. Hsiung Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 14, 2004, at 7:01:35

In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2004, at 1:39:03

> > I am requesting that you write to me if I have equal treatment as the other poster in question and be free to write numerous posts that you say have the potential to put down those of other faiths and be asked to rephrase rather than be evicted from here. If I am granted that type of equal treatment, then I could feel welcome here as being an equal to the other posters here.
>
> I'm sorry if you feel I'm treating you unfairly. I've been thinking there's a difference between posting something directly and linking to it...
>
> Bob

Dr. Hsiung,
I your reply to me above, you write that[...I've been thinking there's a difference between posting something directly and linking to it...].
In the statements in question thatwere posted in the link such as,[...concerning the dwindling of the jews..And after they had slain the Messiah...] and, [...after they dwindled in unbelief they became a dark, and loathsome and filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations...], the poster's post writes that those statements are the official ones of the church of the Latter Day Saints which is also referred to as the Mormon Church. Is this not a quote? And is it not in your FAQ that ,[...do not...even if you are quoting someone else...]?
Lou Pilder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040307/msgs/321730.html

 

Lou's reply to Dr. Hsiung-~suportiv Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 14, 2004, at 7:36:26

In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2004, at 1:39:03

Dr. Hsiung,
In your FAQ, you write that the mission of the forum is for support and education. But are you now changing that by allowing unsupportive statements like the ones in question that I feel have the potential to arrouse antisemitic feelings to be posted here and not be considered to be quotes if they are in a link even if the link writes that what is in it is from a particular doctrinal body of their church? If so, what would prevent one from posting repeated statements in a link that were the type that could have the potential to defame jews? Could one post links here from groups that do not use a church name such as groups that have names like the White Arian Nation and the Klu Klux Klan and the others?
I feel put down and accused when I read the post in question. I feel that those statements in question are unsupportive and grossly offensive to me. I am a jew and I am not filthy, loathsome or full of all manner of abominations, and I do not want there to be posted here any type of statement that could have one think that the jews killed christ. You write that grossly offensive posts can be deleted, yet these that are grossly offensive to me are left on the board.
You write that, [...I've been thinking ther's a difference...]. Are you going, then, to add to your FAQ that quotes from a church's doctrinal body, such as the bible or the Church of the Latter Day Saints verses, that put down or even have the potential for one to think that the statement defames or accuses the jews of killing Christ will be treated differently as to the past practice of evicting those that use offensive language or post what could be considered to be putting down a group of people?
Below are some posts about your FAQ in relation to quoting others. I would like for us to examine these and see if there is a difference between the posts in question and these and if so, what that difference is. If we could do this, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou PIlder
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040112/msgs/307041.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20040307/msgs/321785.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20031121/msgs/283895.html

 

Lou's reply to Dr. Hsiung- Dr. Bob

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 14, 2004, at 8:14:27

In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2004, at 1:39:03

Dr. Hsiung,
In relation to the poster's post that containes the statements,[...also concerning the dwindling of the jews in unbelief...and after they had slain the Messiah...]. and, [...after they had dwindled in unbelief, they became a dark, and loathsome, and filthy people, full of idelness and all manner of abominations...], could these characterizations be similar to the Nazi propaganda about jews?
Let us look at some of the Nazi propaganda that associates jews with being filthy. This assosciation has IMO the potential to arrouse antismeitc feelings. And after we examine some of this Nazi propaganda, I am asking you to allow me to post this next to the posts that are in question on the faith board unless you are going to delete what could have the potential for some to consider that the post in question that I am requesting that you delete is grossly offensive and falls into your statement on your FAQ that grossly offensive posts can be deleted.
Lou PIlder
http://www.historywiz.com/nazi-mm-film.htm

 

Re: Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-

Posted by linkadge on June 25, 2016, at 18:07:55

In reply to Lou's request to Dr. Hsiung-, posted by Lou Pilder on December 13, 2004, at 6:47:49

Lou,

You just pulled up a post from twelve years ago!!

I don't even know who, or what was originally posted!

These are verses from the bible. I hope you understand that different religions have different perspectives that are don't always mesh with each other.

This is a board designed for the discussion of medications. Nobody is saying that by taking medications, an individual cannot **still** retain a religious belief system.

- Should people with heart disease simply switch off their pacemakers?
- Should those who require kidney dialysis forge regular treatments?
- Should a person having a heart attack not call an ambulance?

The answer is, of course not! Depression is a real disease which can have "spiritual" symptoms. Sometimes it is hard for the human brain to come to grips with the influence of its own workings. Taking an antidepressant or antipsychotic is not a slap in the face of a benevolent, loving creator - whoever that may be.

Yes, these medications may have side effects. Yes, the side effects can sometimes have negative impacts on the body and mind. However, there is nothing inherently wrong with taking a medication. Thou shalt not take Prozac, is *not* one of the 10 commandments.

Different people one this board may have different religious beliefs, yes. However, I don't know of any current members who are actively spewing anti-sematic rhetoric. If they are, then let Dr. Bob know. A post from 12 years ago has no bearing on what is happening on this board right now.

My question for you is this. Do you really believe that God wants you here, continually telling people to stop taking their medications?

God asked Noah to build an ark, using the trees of the earth, in order to save himself from the flood. Suggesting that we cannot take medicine derived from earthly substances in order to help treat disease makes no sense.

It doesn't mean that the medications are a perfect cure. But, if things were black and white, we probably wouldn't have these diseases. We'd either be perfectly healthy or dead. This board is for those of us who are *neither* perfectly healthy nor dead.

Are you perfectly 100% healthy, every single day, Lou?

Linkadge


 

Re: Lou's request

Posted by AlexCanada on September 5, 2016, at 19:38:41

In reply to Re: Lou's request, posted by Dr. Bob on December 14, 2004, at 1:39:03

> > I am requesting that you write to me if I have equal treatment as the other poster in question and be free to write numerous posts that you say have the potential to put down those of other faiths and be asked to rephrase rather than be evicted from here. If I am granted that type of equal treatment, then I could feel welcome here as being an equal to the other posters here.
>

Go to hell Bob. You are a special case of sociopath to allow this life endangering maniac by the name of Lou Pilder to openly discourage people from taking their medications.

The fact that you entertain his paranoid delusions about anti-semetism goes to show you are not qualifed to be a doctor. You are a disgrace to your profession.


> I'm sorry if you feel I'm treating you unfairly. I've been thinking there's a difference between posting something directly and linking to it...
>
> Bob


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