Psycho-Babble Administration Thread 1080180

Shown: posts 2 to 26 of 38. Go back in thread:

 

Re: Redirect:: 3-post rule.

Posted by SLS on July 5, 2015, at 12:46:15

In reply to Redirect:: 3-post rule., posted by SLS on July 3, 2015, at 7:51:59

From:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three

---------------------------------------------

"
Can I post as much as I want?

Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.

There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:

Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
Keeping a diary.
"

---------------------------------------------

The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.

Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.

Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.


- Scott

 

Lou's response-getbkindoezholz SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 5, 2015, at 16:03:55

In reply to Re: Redirect:: 3-post rule., posted by SLS on July 5, 2015, at 12:46:15

> From:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> "
> Can I post as much as I want?
>
> Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
>
> There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
>
> Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> Keeping a diary.
> "
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
>
> Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
>
> Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
>
>
> - Scott
>
> Scott,
Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
Lou

 

3-post rule / antisemitism = administrative issues Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on July 5, 2015, at 18:27:19

In reply to Lou's response-getbkindoezholz SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on July 5, 2015, at 16:03:55

You do what you do.

I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?

Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.

I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.

Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.

As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.

"...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."

Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.

You do what you do - Jewish or not.

From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.

See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.

You do what you do.


- Scott

----------------------------------------------


> > From:
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------
> >
> > "
> > Can I post as much as I want?
> >
> > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> >
> > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> >
> > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > Keeping a diary.
> > "
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------
> >
> > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> >
> > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> >
> > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> > Scott,
> Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> Lou
>
>

 

Re: 3-post rule / antisemitism = administrative issues SLS

Posted by 10derheart on July 6, 2015, at 12:01:12

In reply to 3-post rule / antisemitism = administrative issues Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on July 5, 2015, at 18:27:19

Perfect.

Gosh, you write well. Really well.

 

Lous reply-noeratbaiziz SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 6, 2015, at 14:45:01

In reply to 3-post rule / antisemitism = administrative issues Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on July 5, 2015, at 18:27:19

> You do what you do.
>
> I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
>
> Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
>
> I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
>
> Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
>
> As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
>
> "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
>
> Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
>
> You do what you do - Jewish or not.
>
> From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
>
> See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
>
> You do what you do.
>
>
> - Scott
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>
>
> > > From:
> > >
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > "
> > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > >
> > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > >
> > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > >
> > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > Keeping a diary.
> > > "
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > >
> > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > >
> > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > Lou
> >
> >
> Scott,
You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
Lou


>

 

3-post rule / antisemitism = administrative issue (nm) Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on July 6, 2015, at 15:18:56

In reply to Lous reply-noeratbaiziz SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on July 6, 2015, at 14:45:01

 

Lou's reply-Dr. Quackenbush

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 6, 2015, at 15:57:23

In reply to Lous reply-noeratbaiziz SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on July 6, 2015, at 14:45:01

> > You do what you do.
> >
> > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> >
> > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> >
> > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> >
> > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> >
> > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> >
> > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> >
> > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> >
> > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> >
> > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> >
> > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> >
> > You do what you do.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > > > From:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > "
> > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > >
> > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > >
> > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > >
> > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > "
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > >
> > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > >
> > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Scott
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > Lou
> > >
> > >
> > Scott,
> You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> Lou
>
> Scott,
You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
to be continued...
Lou
> >
>
>

 

what a crock of crap (nm) Lou Pilder

Posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2015, at 15:27:14

In reply to Lou's reply-Dr. Quackenbush, posted by Lou Pilder on July 6, 2015, at 15:57:23

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-orchestrate

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 15:41:55

In reply to Lou's reply-Dr. Quackenbush, posted by Lou Pilder on July 6, 2015, at 15:57:23

> > > You do what you do.
> > >
> > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > >
> > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > >
> > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > >
> > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > >
> > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > >
> > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > >
> > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > >
> > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > >
> > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > >
> > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > >
> > > You do what you do.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > > > From:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > "
> > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > >
> > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > >
> > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > "
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Scott
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott,
> > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Scott,
> > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > Lou
> >
> > Scott,
> You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> to be continued...
> Lou
> > >
> > Friends,
Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> >
>
>

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-ekspell

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 16:21:04

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-orchestrate, posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 15:41:55

> > > > You do what you do.
> > > >
> > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > >
> > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > >
> > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > >
> > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > >
> > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > >
> > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > >
> > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > >
> > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > >
> > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > >
> > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > >
> > > > You do what you do.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "
> > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > "
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > Lou
> > >
> > > Scott,
> > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > to be continued...
> > Lou
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > >
> >
> > Friends,
Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
Lou
To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
[ admin, 7968 ]
> see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
>

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 19:02:13

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-ekspell, posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 16:21:04

> > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > >
> > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > >
> > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > >
> > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > >
> > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > >
> > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > >
> > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Scott
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > "
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Scott,
> > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > > Scott,
> > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > to be continued...
> > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Friends,
> Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> Lou
> To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> [ admin, 7968 ]
> > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> >
> Friends,
Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
Lou
To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
>

 

Lou asks:What part are you referring to? (nm) 10derheart

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 19:20:38

In reply to what a crock of crap (nm) Lou Pilder, posted by 10derheart on July 7, 2015, at 15:27:14

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 20:57:57

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 19:02:13

> > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott,
> > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > to be continued...
> > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > Lou
> > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > >
> > Friends,
> Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> Lou
> To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> >
> Friends,
Let us look at [admin, 428781]
Lou
>

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 8, 2015, at 7:47:18

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 20:57:57

> > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > > to be continued...
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > > Lou
> > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> > Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> > Lou
> > To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> > >
> > Friends,
> Let us look at [admin, 428781]
> Lou
> >
> Friends,
To create and develop anti-Semitic hate in a community takes no mastermind to do so, for the tactics used to persecute and murder the Jews have been used for centuries. Here is an article showing the historical use of using the Jews for scapegoats, saying that the Jews brought disease to kill the people. I will show you the parallels to that here as to how Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and the members in concert with them are allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda and accusations against me with impunity.
Lou
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_black_death
>

 

not enough hours in the day (nm) Lou Pilder

Posted by 10derheart on July 8, 2015, at 13:31:48

In reply to Lou asks:What part are you referring to? (nm) 10derheart, posted by Lou Pilder on July 7, 2015, at 19:20:38

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2015, at 8:12:44

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 8, 2015, at 7:47:18

> > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > > > to be continued...
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > > > Lou
> > > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> > > Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> > > Lou
> > > To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> > Let us look at [admin, 428781]
> > Lou
> > >
> > Friends,
> To create and develop anti-Semitic hate in a community takes no mastermind to do so, for the tactics used to persecute and murder the Jews have been used for centuries. Here is an article showing the historical use of using the Jews for scapegoats, saying that the Jews brought disease to kill the people. I will show you the parallels to that here as to how Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and the members in concert with them are allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda and accusations against me with impunity.
> Lou
> http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_black_death
> >
> Friends,
Anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. These lies can be perpetuated here or anywhere else by using the same tactics used in the dark ages through the middle ages and done in subtle ways as being refined over and over to arouse hatred toward the Jews.
One way is to say that a Jew or the Jews bring harm to the community and then have to be ghettoized or killed or expelled to protect the health of the non-Jews. This is done by jumping to a conclusion about a Jew in the community or falsely accuse a Jew. This tactic has been carried out from many centuries past and continues wherever ignorance abounds by the leaders of a country, community ,university , workplace ect that keep the members un informed because it is so easy to persuade the un informed. It's so easy.
This perpetual flame of hate can spread easily in a community where the leaders allow this tactic to be seen as supportive and that it will be good for their community as a whole for a Jew to be defamed and accused of bringing harm to the health of the community. It is an old hatred tactic that turns my stomach.
Here, Scott is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to present me in this (false) light of challenging the health of this community here. By him and his deputies of record allowing it, readers could be persuaded that I am bringing harm to the community where I am trying to get rid of the hate being allowed here against the Jews so that readers could go on to healing, for as long as the hate is allowed to be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, I will have a difficult time to save lives here and others could be killed by the drugs promoted here as "medicines" or kill themselves or others by the drug inducing suicidal or homicidal thinking in those that think that hate is supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and those in concert with them.
Let us look at this post by Scott where his writes that what I can be seen as this subject person in his post, to challenge the health of this community which could mean to cause the death of this community. His portraying me falsely being allowed here could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. That not only could cause harm to me, but also could cause readers to reject what I am offering them that IMHO could save their lives, prevent addictions and life-ruining conditions. And those mothers trying to save their child's lives could reject what I could offer them to save their child's life.
Here is the post by Scott. I am asking you to take a step back and stop to understand how hatred toward me is created and developed here by the administration allowing what Scott has posted about me to be seen as supportive. And look at Mr. Hsiung's attempt to justify Scott's statement in question. It fails because Scott used the preface, {unfortunately}, which qualifies his statement to be that I am causing harm that echoes the ancient anti-Semitic tactic against the Jews called {poisoning the well}.
If Mr. Hsiung would have provided me equal protection of his rules, then I could have challenged his and his deputies of record allowing the statement to be seen as supportive here. But because he denies me equal protection of his rules here, IMHO there could be deaths to innocent people as readers here could be persuaded by being un informed to hate Jews thinking that Jews challenge the health of a community.as in my case, if they challenge the administration for allowing anti-Semitic hate to flourish, for Scott leaves open as to how as what I write challenges the health of the community so that readers could think that my attempts here to have equal protection of the rules and stop the anti-Semitism form being seen as supportive is what Scott's issue is with me.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1049220.html

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2015, at 10:24:09

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2015, at 8:12:44

> > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > > > > to be continued...
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > > > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> > > > Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> > > > Lou
> > > > To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> > > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > Let us look at [admin, 428781]
> > > Lou
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> > To create and develop anti-Semitic hate in a community takes no mastermind to do so, for the tactics used to persecute and murder the Jews have been used for centuries. Here is an article showing the historical use of using the Jews for scapegoats, saying that the Jews brought disease to kill the people. I will show you the parallels to that here as to how Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and the members in concert with them are allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda and accusations against me with impunity.
> > Lou
> > http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_black_death
> > >
> > Friends,
> Anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. These lies can be perpetuated here or anywhere else by using the same tactics used in the dark ages through the middle ages and done in subtle ways as being refined over and over to arouse hatred toward the Jews.
> One way is to say that a Jew or the Jews bring harm to the community and then have to be ghettoized or killed or expelled to protect the health of the non-Jews. This is done by jumping to a conclusion about a Jew in the community or falsely accuse a Jew. This tactic has been carried out from many centuries past and continues wherever ignorance abounds by the leaders of a country, community ,university , workplace ect that keep the members un informed because it is so easy to persuade the un informed. It's so easy.
> This perpetual flame of hate can spread easily in a community where the leaders allow this tactic to be seen as supportive and that it will be good for their community as a whole for a Jew to be defamed and accused of bringing harm to the health of the community. It is an old hatred tactic that turns my stomach.
> Here, Scott is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to present me in this (false) light of challenging the health of this community here. By him and his deputies of record allowing it, readers could be persuaded that I am bringing harm to the community where I am trying to get rid of the hate being allowed here against the Jews so that readers could go on to healing, for as long as the hate is allowed to be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, I will have a difficult time to save lives here and others could be killed by the drugs promoted here as "medicines" or kill themselves or others by the drug inducing suicidal or homicidal thinking in those that think that hate is supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and those in concert with them.
> Let us look at this post by Scott where his writes that what I can be seen as this subject person in his post, to challenge the health of this community which could mean to cause the death of this community. His portraying me falsely being allowed here could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. That not only could cause harm to me, but also could cause readers to reject what I am offering them that IMHO could save their lives, prevent addictions and life-ruining conditions. And those mothers trying to save their child's lives could reject what I could offer them to save their child's life.
> Here is the post by Scott. I am asking you to take a step back and stop to understand how hatred toward me is created and developed here by the administration allowing what Scott has posted about me to be seen as supportive. And look at Mr. Hsiung's attempt to justify Scott's statement in question. It fails because Scott used the preface, {unfortunately}, which qualifies his statement to be that I am causing harm that echoes the ancient anti-Semitic tactic against the Jews called {poisoning the well}.
> If Mr. Hsiung would have provided me equal protection of his rules, then I could have challenged his and his deputies of record allowing the statement to be seen as supportive here. But because he denies me equal protection of his rules here, IMHO there could be deaths to innocent people as readers here could be persuaded by being un informed to hate Jews thinking that Jews challenge the health of a community.as in my case, if they challenge the administration for allowing anti-Semitic hate to flourish, for Scott leaves open as to how as what I write challenges the health of the community so that readers could think that my attempts here to have equal protection of the rules and stop the anti-Semitism form being seen as supportive is what Scott's issue is with me.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1049220.html
>
> Friends,
Antisemitism can be fostered in a community when statements that could put down Jews or their faith or accuse Jews are allowed to be seen as supportive. There is no denying by Mr. Hsiung that this is true. Yet today, years of anti-Semitic hate have been coming out from this site as a perpetual flame of hatred all that can be seen as being in Mr. Hsiug's thinking that it will be good for his community as a whole to do so. He also says that these statements allowed by him here that I am objecting to could cause me harm. They then could also cause harm to other Jews. Here is one such post that Mr. Hsiung makes no denial as to the harm that could come to me and other Jews by his administration of this site to allow anti-Semitic hatred to be seen as supportive here and that in his thinking that would be good for his community as a whole. Let us look at this post closely as it could open up some new light to those that either can not see what is plainly visible here, or that they pretend that they just don't see.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1065831.html

 

Lou's response to Scott's post-

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2015, at 15:08:34

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2015, at 10:24:09

> > > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > > > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > > > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > > > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > > > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > > > > > to be continued...
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > > > > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> > > > > Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > Let us look at [admin, 428781]
> > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > To create and develop anti-Semitic hate in a community takes no mastermind to do so, for the tactics used to persecute and murder the Jews have been used for centuries. Here is an article showing the historical use of using the Jews for scapegoats, saying that the Jews brought disease to kill the people. I will show you the parallels to that here as to how Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and the members in concert with them are allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda and accusations against me with impunity.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_black_death
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> > Anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. These lies can be perpetuated here or anywhere else by using the same tactics used in the dark ages through the middle ages and done in subtle ways as being refined over and over to arouse hatred toward the Jews.
> > One way is to say that a Jew or the Jews bring harm to the community and then have to be ghettoized or killed or expelled to protect the health of the non-Jews. This is done by jumping to a conclusion about a Jew in the community or falsely accuse a Jew. This tactic has been carried out from many centuries past and continues wherever ignorance abounds by the leaders of a country, community ,university , workplace ect that keep the members un informed because it is so easy to persuade the un informed. It's so easy.
> > This perpetual flame of hate can spread easily in a community where the leaders allow this tactic to be seen as supportive and that it will be good for their community as a whole for a Jew to be defamed and accused of bringing harm to the health of the community. It is an old hatred tactic that turns my stomach.
> > Here, Scott is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to present me in this (false) light of challenging the health of this community here. By him and his deputies of record allowing it, readers could be persuaded that I am bringing harm to the community where I am trying to get rid of the hate being allowed here against the Jews so that readers could go on to healing, for as long as the hate is allowed to be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, I will have a difficult time to save lives here and others could be killed by the drugs promoted here as "medicines" or kill themselves or others by the drug inducing suicidal or homicidal thinking in those that think that hate is supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and those in concert with them.
> > Let us look at this post by Scott where his writes that what I can be seen as this subject person in his post, to challenge the health of this community which could mean to cause the death of this community. His portraying me falsely being allowed here could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. That not only could cause harm to me, but also could cause readers to reject what I am offering them that IMHO could save their lives, prevent addictions and life-ruining conditions. And those mothers trying to save their child's lives could reject what I could offer them to save their child's life.
> > Here is the post by Scott. I am asking you to take a step back and stop to understand how hatred toward me is created and developed here by the administration allowing what Scott has posted about me to be seen as supportive. And look at Mr. Hsiung's attempt to justify Scott's statement in question. It fails because Scott used the preface, {unfortunately}, which qualifies his statement to be that I am causing harm that echoes the ancient anti-Semitic tactic against the Jews called {poisoning the well}.
> > If Mr. Hsiung would have provided me equal protection of his rules, then I could have challenged his and his deputies of record allowing the statement to be seen as supportive here. But because he denies me equal protection of his rules here, IMHO there could be deaths to innocent people as readers here could be persuaded by being un informed to hate Jews thinking that Jews challenge the health of a community.as in my case, if they challenge the administration for allowing anti-Semitic hate to flourish, for Scott leaves open as to how as what I write challenges the health of the community so that readers could think that my attempts here to have equal protection of the rules and stop the anti-Semitism form being seen as supportive is what Scott's issue is with me.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1049220.html
> >
> > Friends,
> Antisemitism can be fostered in a community when statements that could put down Jews or their faith or accuse Jews are allowed to be seen as supportive. There is no denying by Mr. Hsiung that this is true. Yet today, years of anti-Semitic hate have been coming out from this site as a perpetual flame of hatred all that can be seen as being in Mr. Hsiug's thinking that it will be good for his community as a whole to do so. He also says that these statements allowed by him here that I am objecting to could cause me harm. They then could also cause harm to other Jews. Here is one such post that Mr. Hsiung makes no denial as to the harm that could come to me and other Jews by his administration of this site to allow anti-Semitic hatred to be seen as supportive here and that in his thinking that would be good for his community as a whole. Let us look at this post closely as it could open up some new light to those that either can not see what is plainly visible here, or that they pretend that they just don't see.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1065831.html
>
> Friends,
Scott wrote,[...please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...]
I would like to revisit the following post by Mr. Hsiung for I will be posting links that the post could be relevant to. Please read the following post carefully for it contains what could go to what Scott has been posting about my character here for years with impunity that could lead a subset of readers to think that what a small subset of readers here that have posted that they see through the attempts to justify leaving the anti-Semitic statements here and the defamation against me by those that a subset of readers could consider them to be in concert with Mr. Hsiung and his deputies to allow anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here. Here is the post that has the post by Mr. Hsiung:
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070624.html

 

Re: Response to Scott's post Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on July 9, 2015, at 15:49:50

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2015, at 15:08:34

> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070482.html

Yes, this was an interesting thread.

It is obvious that I was frustrated with your persistent lobbying for posts to be deleted from the Faith board. While provocative, I am not sure that this post was uncivil. I don't very much like my words here, though. Still, some interesting follow-up posts were submitted.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070629.html

How would respond to this post today?


- Scott

 

Lou's response to Scott-tactics to defame jews

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2015, at 9:54:56

In reply to Lou's response to Scott's post-, posted by Lou Pilder on July 9, 2015, at 15:08:34

> > > > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > > > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > > > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > > > > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > > > > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > > > > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > > > > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > > > > > > to be continued...
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > > > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > > > > > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> > > > > > Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > Let us look at [admin, 428781]
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > To create and develop anti-Semitic hate in a community takes no mastermind to do so, for the tactics used to persecute and murder the Jews have been used for centuries. Here is an article showing the historical use of using the Jews for scapegoats, saying that the Jews brought disease to kill the people. I will show you the parallels to that here as to how Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and the members in concert with them are allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda and accusations against me with impunity.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_black_death
> > > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > Anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. These lies can be perpetuated here or anywhere else by using the same tactics used in the dark ages through the middle ages and done in subtle ways as being refined over and over to arouse hatred toward the Jews.
> > > One way is to say that a Jew or the Jews bring harm to the community and then have to be ghettoized or killed or expelled to protect the health of the non-Jews. This is done by jumping to a conclusion about a Jew in the community or falsely accuse a Jew. This tactic has been carried out from many centuries past and continues wherever ignorance abounds by the leaders of a country, community ,university , workplace ect that keep the members un informed because it is so easy to persuade the un informed. It's so easy.
> > > This perpetual flame of hate can spread easily in a community where the leaders allow this tactic to be seen as supportive and that it will be good for their community as a whole for a Jew to be defamed and accused of bringing harm to the health of the community. It is an old hatred tactic that turns my stomach.
> > > Here, Scott is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to present me in this (false) light of challenging the health of this community here. By him and his deputies of record allowing it, readers could be persuaded that I am bringing harm to the community where I am trying to get rid of the hate being allowed here against the Jews so that readers could go on to healing, for as long as the hate is allowed to be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, I will have a difficult time to save lives here and others could be killed by the drugs promoted here as "medicines" or kill themselves or others by the drug inducing suicidal or homicidal thinking in those that think that hate is supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and those in concert with them.
> > > Let us look at this post by Scott where his writes that what I can be seen as this subject person in his post, to challenge the health of this community which could mean to cause the death of this community. His portraying me falsely being allowed here could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. That not only could cause harm to me, but also could cause readers to reject what I am offering them that IMHO could save their lives, prevent addictions and life-ruining conditions. And those mothers trying to save their child's lives could reject what I could offer them to save their child's life.
> > > Here is the post by Scott. I am asking you to take a step back and stop to understand how hatred toward me is created and developed here by the administration allowing what Scott has posted about me to be seen as supportive. And look at Mr. Hsiung's attempt to justify Scott's statement in question. It fails because Scott used the preface, {unfortunately}, which qualifies his statement to be that I am causing harm that echoes the ancient anti-Semitic tactic against the Jews called {poisoning the well}.
> > > If Mr. Hsiung would have provided me equal protection of his rules, then I could have challenged his and his deputies of record allowing the statement to be seen as supportive here. But because he denies me equal protection of his rules here, IMHO there could be deaths to innocent people as readers here could be persuaded by being un informed to hate Jews thinking that Jews challenge the health of a community.as in my case, if they challenge the administration for allowing anti-Semitic hate to flourish, for Scott leaves open as to how as what I write challenges the health of the community so that readers could think that my attempts here to have equal protection of the rules and stop the anti-Semitism form being seen as supportive is what Scott's issue is with me.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1049220.html
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community when statements that could put down Jews or their faith or accuse Jews are allowed to be seen as supportive. There is no denying by Mr. Hsiung that this is true. Yet today, years of anti-Semitic hate have been coming out from this site as a perpetual flame of hatred all that can be seen as being in Mr. Hsiug's thinking that it will be good for his community as a whole to do so. He also says that these statements allowed by him here that I am objecting to could cause me harm. They then could also cause harm to other Jews. Here is one such post that Mr. Hsiung makes no denial as to the harm that could come to me and other Jews by his administration of this site to allow anti-Semitic hatred to be seen as supportive here and that in his thinking that would be good for his community as a whole. Let us look at this post closely as it could open up some new light to those that either can not see what is plainly visible here, or that they pretend that they just don't see.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1065831.html
> >
> > Friends,
> Scott wrote,[...please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...]
> I would like to revisit the following post by Mr. Hsiung for I will be posting links that the post could be relevant to. Please read the following post carefully for it contains what could go to what Scott has been posting about my character here for years with impunity that could lead a subset of readers to think that what a small subset of readers here that have posted that they see through the attempts to justify leaving the anti-Semitic statements here and the defamation against me by those that a subset of readers could consider them to be in concert with Mr. Hsiung and his deputies to allow anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here. Here is the post that has the post by Mr. Hsiung:
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070624.html
>
>
Friends,
The tactics used historically to defame Jews are well-known and are still used today. These tactics are successful in communities where the leaders create and develop anti-Semitic hate in various ways by abusing their power and making the community members think that anti-Semitism is being supported by the leaders for their own purposes which creates and develops what is know as state-sponsored anti-Semitism. The overriding tactic is to lead the people in the country that anitisemitism will be good for their community as a whole or then because of that, certain members could benefit from anti-Semitism being state-sponsored. The leaders could lead members to think that the country will be improved by allowing anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive.
This works well in communities where the members are intimidated to accept the leader's thinking, where the leaders can use coercive tools to silence those that see through the hate being allowed to be promulgated as being supportive. This to be successful by the leaders, needs to have a large body of people to swallow the leaders' thinking that because the leaders think that sometime in the future the community will benefit by allowing anti-Semitism to be seen as being supportive, that anti-Semitism can be allowed to be seen as supportive and not stopped by the leaders and allow members to put up billboards that can arouse anti-Semitic feelings where the laws of the community prohibit the defamation of groups. This is further driven into the minds of the people by the leader not allowing defamation toward Christianity, while allowing defamation toward the Jews. This creates two standards and denies the Jews equal protection of the laws which is discrimination and an abuse of power. That alone in a community could cause a community like that to have those that see through the tactic of allowing anti-Semitism that could leave, to leave the community as history records. Some can not leave. Some will stay and try to stop anti-Semitic defamation being allowed to be seen as supportive in a community like that.
In a community that uses the tactics to arouse hatred toward the Jews, one is the tactic of saying that the Jews are responsible for the death of Christ. This tactic comes early in the historical persecution of the Jews and here is a document that explains such. Please do the diligence required to bring this up as there is another prohibition posted to me here by Mr. Hsinug that prevents me from posting links that is so broad, I have to use the convention of asking you to go through hoops and jumps to bring it up. I realize that a percentage of readers will opt not to go through ay hoops or jumps at all and ignore my attempt for you to see this. If you still do not want to go through this, you could b-mail me and I will give you my email and send you links.
Lou
To see this document, go to Google and type in:
[Wikipedia, Adversus Judaeos ]
This will bring up John Chrysostom and you could see more as to why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus. You could also see the parallels here of the posts being allowed here to be seen as supportive and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole being allowed to stand over my objections for years concerning the ancient accusation against the Jews of deicide. Antisemitism is built by using lies against the Jews. The anti-Semitic tactic of spreading the lie that the Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus can lead to readers here to commit anti-Semitic acts so that Jews could become victims of anti-Semitic violence way outside of this site, for the influence of a psychiatrist is powerful enough to give ignorant people and undeveloped children that do not know any better, a justification for hate as they can see that a psychiatrist is allowing the lie against the Jews to be seen as supportive here.

 

Lou's response to Scott-tactics to defame jews

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2015, at 10:42:43

In reply to Lou's response to Scott-tactics to defame jews, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2015, at 9:54:56

> > > > > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I portray as best I can, with an attempt at objectivity, the facts as they present themselves. I also render opinions that are clearly stated as being such, none of which are attacks on you personally. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Perhaps you can identify and list a few things I wrote that you would like me to rephrase?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Your identity is easily inferred by the presentation facts. This is a consequence of your behavior - not mine.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am opposed to your persistence in bringing into the Medication forum administrative issues. If you don't like having Dr. Bob limit the content of your posts, take that up with him on the Administration board.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse others of antisemitism. That includes Dr. Bob.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > As I understand it, you are breaking the 3 post rule for reasons I have previously described - whether it be the result of oversight or of cleverness. Your motives are of no relevance. This is an important issue to me, as you know. It will be the responsibility of administration to determine your adherence to this policy. I do hope that I described accurately your pattern of postings along the sequence of posts that I previously enumerated.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "...that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9..."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not accuse me of promoting antisemitism by my critiquing your behavior. I don't care how many degrees of separation it takes for you to get there.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You do what you do - Jewish or not.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > From what you write, a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling antisemitism all around you. This could further lead some people to characterize Christians as being incapable of resisting a conversion to antisemitism whenever I question your adherence to the rules of this website.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > See - now this is getting personal. I consider your accusing me of leading others to use you as a scapegoat and have them lash you with antisemitic language to be a personal attack on me. Since people here know that I am Jewish, a subset of these people could come to believe that you are scapegoating Jews for the antisemitism you feel.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You do what you do.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > From:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#three
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I post as much as I want?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share this site with others by not starting more than 3 consecutive threads on the same board or posting more than 3 consecutive follow-ups in the same thread. More than that may discourage less confident posters from joining in. Giving them more of a chance makes it easier for them also to help -- and to feel good about doing so.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are exceptions to every rule, and those to this one may include:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Responding to earlier posts one at a time.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Playing around with others at Psycho-Babble Social.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > During meltdowns, clarifying posts many times.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping a diary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The interpretation of the first exception to the 3 post rule needs to be better explained. I hope the moderator makes himself available to do this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along one thread, there is a series of 9 consecutive posts submitted by the same person. This behvior is problematic in that it monopolizes the board and, in my estimation, dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely. So, how many posts can one submit consecutively if no one else posts in the interim? Theoretically, one may post many more than 9 if each post addresses an earlier sumbission and that such a response has nexus and is directed to the previous author by name in the subject line.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can a string of posts submitted by the same person include more than 3 posts directed to the same poster? I don't know. This is a question that only the moderator can answer, as the posting policy was constructed by him. However, I don't think that one may create a string of posts by submitting a great many that follow a pattern wherein there are 2 undirected posts, followed by one directed post, followed again by 2 undirected posts, etc. This leaves 6 undirected posts out of 9 that do not qualify as: "Responding to earlier posts one at a time." I don't see any specifiers in the 3 post policy that posting numbers should be reset each day. Maybe it should. In the meantime, I don't think that this posting behavior is supported by the rules of the website.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Scott
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do not post anything about me that could be construed to be such that it decreases the respect regard and confidence in which I am held or induce hostile and disagreeable opinions or feelings about me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...This behavior (posting 9 consecutive posts in a thread without someone else's name after 3 posts within those 9 posts)is problematic {in that it monopolizes the board}and in my estimation {dissuades others from becoming involved in conversations or leaving the website entirely.}
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What you wrote that I could be seen as your subject person, could stigmatize me and have others use me as a scapegoat for their real or imagined ills. And since you have not posted a basis for your claims against me here, that could arouse anti-Semitic feelings here against me because I am trying to purge out the old hatred against the Jews being allowed to be seen as supportive here by not only Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, but by posters that are in concert with them. This requires me to post a lot to try and stop Mr. Hsiung and his followers from allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community in the future, it will be good to have anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here for it will in someway improve or benefit his community for the whole of it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as any monopoly of this forum, members can post wherever they choose even though I am trying to save lives here by posting what I need to for readers to be educated as the goal of this forum states. If any one wants to stop me from educating readers by any means, they IMHHHO could be trying to stop me from educating them about what could save their lives, prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions, and trying to stop me to have the anti-Semitic propaganda here that is allowed to be seen as supportive, be thrown back into the holes that those that post such hate have slithered out of.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...a subset of people could determine that you are scapegoating non-Jews for your feeling anti-Semitism all around you...].
> > > > > > > > > > > A subset of readers could think that the Earth is flat. But do they have a rational basis to think that? They do if they are ignorant of facts that show otherwise.
> > > > > > > > > > > In your statement about me here, you say that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me. You then connect because of that I am feeling anti-Semitism all around me, that a subset of people could use that to make a determination that I am scapegoating non-Jews for those feelings that you say that I have. You base this on what I write here. Assuming that the content of what I write here is concerning my attempts to eradicate the anti-Semitism here posted with impunity and/or my attempts to educate readers about the consequences of taking mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist and/or my attempts to save lives here and prevent life-ruining conditions and addictions and suicides, I find no rational basis for anyone to think that I am scapegoating non-Jews for my feelings that there is anti-Semitism all around me. In fact, what I am trying to do is have Mr. Hsiung purge out the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed by him and his deputies of record here along with anyone that they have attracted to be in concert with them by posting anti-Semitic content with impunity here. In fact, the feelings that readers could get from here is that anti-Semitism is being validated by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record because the rational basis for those feelings are plainly visible in that anti-Semitism is allowed to stand and worse, that Mr. Hsiung says he will allow those statements to stand because by him allowing it, it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That could induce feelings of hatred toward the Jews on its face, for Mr. Hsuing states that being supportive takes precedence and that members are to be civil at all times. Readers could get (false) feelings of superiority by seeing that Mr. Hsiung himself states that he knows that un repudiated anti-Semitic statements here could cause me harm. That could give Jew-haters feelings of gratification to see a psychiatrist allow antisemitic hate to be seen as being supportive and that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole to be seen that way.
> > > > > > > > > > > I have not made any statement to use non-Jews as scapegoats here for my feelings. My feelings are a result of being a recipient of defamation and anitsemitic hate and the denying me of the equal protection of the rules here and to be made to be shunned and made to be a scapegoat so that the psychiatrist could use his example and influence to have others shun me here because they can see him not respond to years of notifications by me allowed by a psychiatrist to be done for years here giving himself his own justification for inflicting this abuse upon me which is the same justification used to support slavery and genocide and infanticide and segregation as that in his thinking it will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > > > > > > > > Any basis that anyone has to determine that I am using anyone for a scapegoat can post the URL and the statement in it to make that basis and then I could respond to whatever you post about me.
> > > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > You wrote,[...Please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...].
> > > > > > > > > > The posts that one makes live after them. Their intent could be interred in their bones.
> > > > > > > > > > I do not know if anyone is anti-Semitic. But I do know anti-Semitism here when I see it. For Mr. Hsiung says that anything that could lead a Jew to feel put down/accused is an anti-Semitic statement or anything that puts down Judaism.
> > > > > > > > > > Now when posts are allowed to stand that put down Jews/accuse Jews, then there is some rational basis to wonder why anyone here would post such and more than that, why anyone here would want anti-Semitic propaganda to stand un repudiated. Mr. Hsuing answers that. He says that by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to stand, it will be in his thinking to be good for this community as a whole for being supportive takes precedence. Now to determine if Mr. Hsiung or another poster here is an anti-Semitic person, there is a list of criteria that courts have used in different jurisdictions to make that determination.
> > > > > > > > > > Let's say that in a hypothetical session with the hypothetical people, the psychiatrist Dr. Quackenbush and his hypothetical client, Helen Weilz has this meeting:
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Why are you here?
> > > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: Where I live my house is having rocks thrown at it.
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbus: Have you called 911?
> > > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They refuse to respond.
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What is their rational for not responding to you?
> > > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that it will be good for their community as a whole to not respond to me being abused.
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What do you think is the reason that your neighbors are casting stones at you?
> > > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They hold up signs with anti-Semitic slogans saying that Jews are not saved and have to convert to Christianity to be saved. And that I am bringing harm to the community that is effecting their health. They say this because the community is running down and they blame me for people leaving. And then they say that Jesus was made to suffer a horrible death by the Jews and that also I should be evicted from the neighborhood because I am vocal about the antisemitism and they made a rule to limit my speech by saying that I could not continue after three statements unless someone else said something.
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: What does the administration say?
> > > > > > > > > > Helen Weilz: They say that they will allow the abuse and anti-Semitism to continue because they think that by allowing it to continue, it will be good for their community as a whole
> > > > > > > > > > Dr. Quackenbush: Does the mayor display a swastika? Are the administrators anti-Semitic? There is a test to determine that. First, do the administrators want harm to come to you?
> > > > > > > > > > to be continued...
> > > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > > Many of you already know the historical uses of tactics to persecute the Jews. They are ancient and were developed in the dark and middle ages on and in 1492 there was the Spanish inquisition and the edict of expulsion of the Jews from Spain. This document has the rational for hatred toward the Jews that others after them have built on. I would like for you to read this document carefully to see the basis for the persecution of the Jews and then I will show you the parallels here. To see this document, click on the link to follow and there is a link to what is called the Alhambra Decree. Notice each of the anti-Semitic propaganda statements in the edict to expel the Jews. See if you can understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters in concert with those orchestrating the hate.
> > > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020627/msgs/6423.html
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > > Now I would like for you to examine the following post by Mr. Hsiung to me here. This could help you see what is plainly visible here.
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > To see this post, go to the search box at the bottom of this page and type in:
> > > > > > > > [ admin, 7968 ]
> > > > > > > > > see that the 7968 is in the colored strip URL, not in the subject line
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community by using ancient tactics that have been used to persecute the Jews in a community. These tactics come out of the dark ages and then through the middle ages and then through European Fascism jump-starting with Jean Jacques Rousseau as Mr. Hsiung cites here as his basis for some of his thinking on the faith board.
> > > > > > > Not too long after Queen Isabella expelled the Jews from all Spanish lands, Martin Luther wrote the following about the Jews. I would like for readers to make a list of the anti-Semitic propaganda that you see in the document and then I intend to show you the parallels here in the anti-Semitic propaganda allowed to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole for those statements to be seen that way.
> > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > To see this document, click on the link to follow and in it is another link to the document by Martin Luther. This is Christiandom's Jesus per Martin Luther and you will see why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus.
> > > > > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041012/msgs/407438.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > > Let us look at [admin, 428781]
> > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends,
> > > > > To create and develop anti-Semitic hate in a community takes no mastermind to do so, for the tactics used to persecute and murder the Jews have been used for centuries. Here is an article showing the historical use of using the Jews for scapegoats, saying that the Jews brought disease to kill the people. I will show you the parallels to that here as to how Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and the members in concert with them are allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda and accusations against me with impunity.
> > > > > Lou
> > > > > http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_black_death
> > > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > Anti-Semitism is based on lies against the Jews. These lies can be perpetuated here or anywhere else by using the same tactics used in the dark ages through the middle ages and done in subtle ways as being refined over and over to arouse hatred toward the Jews.
> > > > One way is to say that a Jew or the Jews bring harm to the community and then have to be ghettoized or killed or expelled to protect the health of the non-Jews. This is done by jumping to a conclusion about a Jew in the community or falsely accuse a Jew. This tactic has been carried out from many centuries past and continues wherever ignorance abounds by the leaders of a country, community ,university , workplace ect that keep the members un informed because it is so easy to persuade the un informed. It's so easy.
> > > > This perpetual flame of hate can spread easily in a community where the leaders allow this tactic to be seen as supportive and that it will be good for their community as a whole for a Jew to be defamed and accused of bringing harm to the health of the community. It is an old hatred tactic that turns my stomach.
> > > > Here, Scott is allowed by Mr. Hsiung to present me in this (false) light of challenging the health of this community here. By him and his deputies of record allowing it, readers could be persuaded that I am bringing harm to the community where I am trying to get rid of the hate being allowed here against the Jews so that readers could go on to healing, for as long as the hate is allowed to be seen as supportive here and that it will be good for this community as a whole in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, I will have a difficult time to save lives here and others could be killed by the drugs promoted here as "medicines" or kill themselves or others by the drug inducing suicidal or homicidal thinking in those that think that hate is supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and those in concert with them.
> > > > Let us look at this post by Scott where his writes that what I can be seen as this subject person in his post, to challenge the health of this community which could mean to cause the death of this community. His portraying me falsely being allowed here could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me and decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held. That not only could cause harm to me, but also could cause readers to reject what I am offering them that IMHO could save their lives, prevent addictions and life-ruining conditions. And those mothers trying to save their child's lives could reject what I could offer them to save their child's life.
> > > > Here is the post by Scott. I am asking you to take a step back and stop to understand how hatred toward me is created and developed here by the administration allowing what Scott has posted about me to be seen as supportive. And look at Mr. Hsiung's attempt to justify Scott's statement in question. It fails because Scott used the preface, {unfortunately}, which qualifies his statement to be that I am causing harm that echoes the ancient anti-Semitic tactic against the Jews called {poisoning the well}.
> > > > If Mr. Hsiung would have provided me equal protection of his rules, then I could have challenged his and his deputies of record allowing the statement to be seen as supportive here. But because he denies me equal protection of his rules here, IMHO there could be deaths to innocent people as readers here could be persuaded by being un informed to hate Jews thinking that Jews challenge the health of a community.as in my case, if they challenge the administration for allowing anti-Semitic hate to flourish, for Scott leaves open as to how as what I write challenges the health of the community so that readers could think that my attempts here to have equal protection of the rules and stop the anti-Semitism form being seen as supportive is what Scott's issue is with me.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1049220.html
> > > >
> > > > Friends,
> > > Antisemitism can be fostered in a community when statements that could put down Jews or their faith or accuse Jews are allowed to be seen as supportive. There is no denying by Mr. Hsiung that this is true. Yet today, years of anti-Semitic hate have been coming out from this site as a perpetual flame of hatred all that can be seen as being in Mr. Hsiug's thinking that it will be good for his community as a whole to do so. He also says that these statements allowed by him here that I am objecting to could cause me harm. They then could also cause harm to other Jews. Here is one such post that Mr. Hsiung makes no denial as to the harm that could come to me and other Jews by his administration of this site to allow anti-Semitic hatred to be seen as supportive here and that in his thinking that would be good for his community as a whole. Let us look at this post closely as it could open up some new light to those that either can not see what is plainly visible here, or that they pretend that they just don't see.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1065831.html
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > Scott wrote,[...please do not accuse others of anti-Semitism. That includes (Mr. Hsiung)...]
> > I would like to revisit the following post by Mr. Hsiung for I will be posting links that the post could be relevant to. Please read the following post carefully for it contains what could go to what Scott has been posting about my character here for years with impunity that could lead a subset of readers to think that what a small subset of readers here that have posted that they see through the attempts to justify leaving the anti-Semitic statements here and the defamation against me by those that a subset of readers could consider them to be in concert with Mr. Hsiung and his deputies to allow anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive here. Here is the post that has the post by Mr. Hsiung:
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070624.html
> >
> >
> Friends,
> The tactics used historically to defame Jews are well-known and are still used today. These tactics are successful in communities where the leaders create and develop anti-Semitic hate in various ways by abusing their power and making the community members think that anti-Semitism is being supported by the leaders for their own purposes which creates and develops what is know as state-sponsored anti-Semitism. The overriding tactic is to lead the people in the country that anitisemitism will be good for their community as a whole or then because of that, certain members could benefit from anti-Semitism being state-sponsored. The leaders could lead members to think that the country will be improved by allowing anti-Semitism to be seen as supportive.
> This works well in communities where the members are intimidated to accept the leader's thinking, where the leaders can use coercive tools to silence those that see through the hate being allowed to be promulgated as being supportive. This to be successful by the leaders, needs to have a large body of people to swallow the leaders' thinking that because the leaders think that sometime in the future the community will benefit by allowing anti-Semitism to be seen as being supportive, that anti-Semitism can be allowed to be seen as supportive and not stopped by the leaders and allow members to put up billboards that can arouse anti-Semitic feelings where the laws of the community prohibit the defamation of groups. This is further driven into the minds of the people by the leader not allowing defamation toward Christianity, while allowing defamation toward the Jews. This creates two standards and denies the Jews equal protection of the laws which is discrimination and an abuse of power. That alone in a community could cause a community like that to have those that see through the tactic of allowing anti-Semitism that could leave, to leave the community as history records. Some can not leave. Some will stay and try to stop anti-Semitic defamation being allowed to be seen as supportive in a community like that.
> In a community that uses the tactics to arouse hatred toward the Jews, one is the tactic of saying that the Jews are responsible for the death of Christ. This tactic comes early in the historical persecution of the Jews and here is a document that explains such. Please do the diligence required to bring this up as there is another prohibition posted to me here by Mr. Hsinug that prevents me from posting links that is so broad, I have to use the convention of asking you to go through hoops and jumps to bring it up. I realize that a percentage of readers will opt not to go through ay hoops or jumps at all and ignore my attempt for you to see this. If you still do not want to go through this, you could b-mail me and I will give you my email and send you links.
> Lou
> To see this document, go to Google and type in:
> [Wikipedia, Adversus Judaeos ]
> This will bring up John Chrysostom and you could see more as to why the Rider on the white horse is not Christiandom's Jesus. You could also see the parallels here of the posts being allowed here to be seen as supportive and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole being allowed to stand over my objections for years concerning the ancient accusation against the Jews of deicide. Antisemitism is built by using lies against the Jews. The anti-Semitic tactic of spreading the lie that the Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus can lead to readers here to commit anti-Semitic acts so that Jews could become victims of anti-Semitic violence way outside of this site, for the influence of a psychiatrist is powerful enough to give ignorant people and undeveloped children that do not know any better, a justification for hate as they can see that a psychiatrist is allowing the lie against the Jews to be seen as supportive here.

Friends,
The tactic of spreading lies against the Jews is brought out here exponentially as this site is published all over the world. The hatred toward the Jews as being allowed here to be seen as supportive can fall as a fire on the minds of those just waiting for someone to have a site that allows anti-Semitic hate to be seen as supportive. And the population here has those intellectually impaired by the mind-altering drugs that are promoted here as "medicines" which could have those people use Jews as an outlet thinking that because a psychiatrist is allowing hatred toward the Jews to be seen as supportive, and that his thinking is that it will be good for his community as a whole to do so, that it coudl be supportive for them also, because Mr. Hsiung couples that with
[...please try to trust me...]. That is the difference here. The psychiatrist is asking for your trust in him as that he states:
[... doing in my thinking what will be good for this community as a whole...] Trust him? Who else said that, if you know?
Here is a link to a post where the lie against the Jews is allowed to stand here by Mr. Hsiung and up to 6 deputies of record. And also, do you not see that by him and his deputies of record denying me equal protection of his rules by him not acting on my notifications, that he can leave the anti-Semitic lie to stand?
Here is a link to the statement that I can post because there is not a sanction to the post, which are the links permitted to post here. When you pull up the post, look at the third paragraph where it says:
[...made to suffer a horrible death by them...] .
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1002966.html .This is only one of many spreading the lie against the Jews from this site as being supportive, for support takes precedence according to Mr. Hsiung and posters are to be civil at all times. Hatred toward the Jews supportive here? And then look at [admin, 428781].

 

Tactics Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on July 17, 2015, at 12:09:46

In reply to Lou's response to Scott-tactics to defame jews, posted by Lou Pilder on July 16, 2015, at 9:54:56

Mr. Pilder,

Please refer to the following URL link in order to answer the questions that follow. Thank you.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070629.html

Again, I ask you, how do you respond to this post?

Do you see anyone employing tactics to promote antisemitism on this website? If so, is there more than one person doing this?

You mention Christianity and Christendom frequently in your posts regarding the presence of antisemitism on this website. Do you find antisemitism on the Faith board in the phraseology used relating to the fundamental tenets of Christianity? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antisemitic? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antibuddhist, antihindi, or antishinto? Is it acceptable to you if Shintos don't believe in the god that you give service and worship to, and do not recognize and adhere to the Ten Commandments as your god demands? Is it acceptable to you that Hindus believe that you will never reach Nirvana unless you follow their prescriptions to arrive there? Is it acceptable to you that Buddhists do not require circumcision to reach Nirvana? Would it be an act of antisemitism to post one's beliefs in these alternate religions? Was it an act of antisemitism for me to have posted these beliefs in my narrative here?

Your direct responses to the questions asked here would be very much appreciated. If you ignore them and once again describe the tactics used to promote antisemitism in the form of a monologue, then I guess you will preclude us from having a dialogue, right?


- Scott

 

Lou's reply-7968 SLS

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2015, at 13:10:11

In reply to Tactics Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on July 17, 2015, at 12:09:46

> Mr. Pilder,
>
> Please refer to the following URL link in order to answer the questions that follow. Thank you.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070629.html
>
> Again, I ask you, how do you respond to this post?
>
> Do you see anyone employing tactics to promote antisemitism on this website? If so, is there more than one person doing this?
>
> You mention Christianity and Christendom frequently in your posts regarding the presence of antisemitism on this website. Do you find antisemitism on the Faith board in the phraseology used relating to the fundamental tenets of Christianity? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antisemitic? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antibuddhist, antihindi, or antishinto? Is it acceptable to you if Shintos don't believe in the god that you give service and worship to, and do not recognize and adhere to the Ten Commandments as your god demands? Is it acceptable to you that Hindus believe that you will never reach Nirvana unless you follow their prescriptions to arrive there? Is it acceptable to you that Buddhists do not require circumcision to reach Nirvana? Would it be an act of antisemitism to post one's beliefs in these alternate religions? Was it an act of antisemitism for me to have posted these beliefs in my narrative here?
>
> Your direct responses to the questions asked here would be very much appreciated. If you ignore them and once again describe the tactics used to promote antisemitism in the form of a monologue, then I guess you will preclude us from having a dialogue, right?
>
>
> - Scott

Scott,
You wrote about wanting me to specify those employing tactics to promote anti-Semitism here.
In order to understand what I intend to post here as an answer to your questions to me , let us look at [ admin, 7968 ].
Lou

 

Lou's reply-ekskluzun

Posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2015, at 16:33:39

In reply to Lou's reply-7968 SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2015, at 13:10:11

> > Mr. Pilder,
> >
> > Please refer to the following URL link in order to answer the questions that follow. Thank you.
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070629.html
> >
> > Again, I ask you, how do you respond to this post?
> >
> > Do you see anyone employing tactics to promote antisemitism on this website? If so, is there more than one person doing this?
> >
> > You mention Christianity and Christendom frequently in your posts regarding the presence of antisemitism on this website. Do you find antisemitism on the Faith board in the phraseology used relating to the fundamental tenets of Christianity? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antisemitic? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antibuddhist, antihindi, or antishinto? Is it acceptable to you if Shintos don't believe in the god that you give service and worship to, and do not recognize and adhere to the Ten Commandments as your god demands? Is it acceptable to you that Hindus believe that you will never reach Nirvana unless you follow their prescriptions to arrive there? Is it acceptable to you that Buddhists do not require circumcision to reach Nirvana? Would it be an act of antisemitism to post one's beliefs in these alternate religions? Was it an act of antisemitism for me to have posted these beliefs in my narrative here?
> >
> > Your direct responses to the questions asked here would be very much appreciated. If you ignore them and once again describe the tactics used to promote antisemitism in the form of a monologue, then I guess you will preclude us from having a dialogue, right?
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Scott,
> You wrote about wanting me to specify those employing tactics to promote anti-Semitism here.
> In order to understand what I intend to post here as an answer to your questions to me , let us look at [ admin, 7968 ].
> Lou

Scott,
You ask if one can prescribe to an exclusionist religion and not be anti-Semitic.
That depends. What criteria do you use to deem a religion an exclusionist religion?
Lou

 

Questions unanswered - Part #1 Lou Pilder

Posted by SLS on July 17, 2015, at 18:18:41

In reply to Lou's reply-7968 SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on July 17, 2015, at 13:10:11

> > Mr. Pilder,
> >
> > Please refer to the following URL link in order to answer the questions that follow. Thank you.
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140304/msgs/1070629.html
> >
> > Again, I ask you, how do you respond to this post?
> >
> > Do you see anyone employing tactics to promote antisemitism on this website? If so, is there more than one person doing this?
> >
> > You mention Christianity and Christendom frequently in your posts regarding the presence of antisemitism on this website. Do you find antisemitism on the Faith board in the phraseology used relating to the fundamental tenets of Christianity? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antisemitic? Can one subscribe to an exclusionist religion without being antibuddhist, antihindi, or antishinto? Is it acceptable to you if Shintos don't believe in the god that you give service and worship to, and do not recognize and adhere to the Ten Commandments as your god demands? Is it acceptable to you that Hindus believe that you will never reach Nirvana unless you follow their prescriptions to arrive there? Is it acceptable to you that Buddhists do not require circumcision to reach Nirvana? Would it be an act of antisemitism to post one's beliefs in these alternate religions? Was it an act of antisemitism for me to have posted these beliefs in my narrative here?
> >
> > Your direct responses to the questions asked here would be very much appreciated. If you ignore them and once again describe the tactics used to promote antisemitism in the form of a monologue, then I guess you will preclude us from having a dialogue, right?
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Scott,
> You wrote about wanting me to specify those employing tactics to promote anti-Semitism here.
> In order to understand what I intend to post here as an answer to your questions to me , let us look at [ admin, 7968 ].
> Lou

No, that's okay. You can just answer the questions I asked. I'm guessing you are intelligent enough to answer yes-or-no questions with one word if you really wanted to. So that we may continue this dialogue, I ask that you answer these questions. Feel free to amplify or qualify your yes-or-no responses after you give them.

For the sake of this discussion, let us use as a definition of "exclusionist religion" one whose doctrine precludes the subscribers of other religions from entrance into heaven, nirvana, paradise, an afterlife, or being with a god.


- Scott


Go forward in thread:


Show another thread

URL of post in thread:


Psycho-Babble Administration | Extras | FAQ


[dr. bob] Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD, bob@dr-bob.org

Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.