Psycho-Babble Administration Thread 373145

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problem with Explorer

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 2, 2004, at 10:37:29

I did the cumulative update of Explorer, as recommended to fix a security vulnerability. No problemo.

Now, though, the "Go Back" button that Dr. Bob has so thoughtfully provided no longer works. If I do go back, I lose all that I have done, because I get a "page expired" warning, and resetting puts me back at the opening frame of the board.

I hope I've adequately explained the problem. Does anyone know if there's a setting that needs changing? Or have Gates et al messed this whole thing up? Pubmed does the same thing. It's not just Bob's site. Is this a new total mess-up, or something else?

Lar

 

Re: Javascript problem with Explorer

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 2, 2004, at 19:01:05

In reply to problem with Explorer, posted by Larry Hoover on August 2, 2004, at 10:37:29

> I did the cumulative update of Explorer

So what version are you up to? And I assume you're on Windows? What version of it?

> Now, though, the "Go Back" button that Dr. Bob has so thoughtfully provided no longer works. If I do go back, I lose all that I have done, because I get a "page expired" warning, and resetting puts me back at the opening frame of the board.

This seems to be a known Javascript issue, but I didn't find a definitive answer. These aren't .asp pages, and this isn't an IIS server, but it wouldn't hurt to take a look at:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;183763&Product=ie

Does anyone else have any ideas?

Are you sure you want to stay with IE? :-)

Bob

 

Re: problem with Explorer

Posted by AuntieMel on August 3, 2004, at 8:41:01

In reply to problem with Explorer, posted by Larry Hoover on August 2, 2004, at 10:37:29

Dr. Bob's "Are you sure you want to stay with IE? :-)" is a pretty valid security question. When the latest IE hubub started I updated. More holes found, updated again. Ad nauseum.

I finally decided to use netscape till they figure it out.

 

Re: Have you considered Land Cruiser;) (nm) Larry Hoover

Posted by AuntieMel on August 4, 2004, at 11:26:03

In reply to problem with Explorer, posted by Larry Hoover on August 2, 2004, at 10:37:29

 

Re: Javascript problem with Explorer Dr. Bob

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 15:00:58

In reply to Re: Javascript problem with Explorer, posted by Dr. Bob on August 2, 2004, at 19:01:05

> > I did the cumulative update of Explorer
>
> So what version are you up to? And I assume you're on Windows? What version of it?

Explorer version:
6.0.2800.1106.xpsp2.030422-1603

I don't know what that means, past the 6.0, but it's running under Windows XP.

> > Now, though, the "Go Back" button that Dr. Bob has so thoughtfully provided no longer works. If I do go back, I lose all that I have done, because I get a "page expired" warning, and resetting puts me back at the opening frame of the board.
>
> This seems to be a known Javascript issue, but I didn't find a definitive answer. These aren't .asp pages, and this isn't an IIS server, but it wouldn't hurt to take a look at:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;183763&Product=ie

Thanks for the link, but that's an old problem with Windows 95. I did a google groups search, and the resident geeks suggested a number of settings to check, but they were all just as they were supposed to be. Then I came across a suggestion that the local cache might be overloaded.

Explorer leaves behind a lot of trash files, and until recently, you had to use a third-party program like Window Washer to clear the cache. On my last computer, a search of C: showed that I had less than half my hard-drive allocated to files, yet I had run out of space to open even so much as an email. That's because the allocations for all those junk files still remained, but there was no way to delete them, without using third-party programs. And they didn't show up in a directory search, so you couldn't access them any other way, either.

Anyway, it looks like one of the recent updates changed things. There's a new button in Tools>Internet Options>General tab> Temporary Internet Files> Delete Files> delete local files.... It takes care of those annoying and space consuming junk files. I found it just before I left on vacation, and I deleted over half the total volume of files stored on my computer! (28 gig used before purging, 13 gig used after.) Based on the number of files virus-scanned, I deleted 95% of the total files on my computer! All garbage files.....and now the back button works again.

If you do a lot of surfing, like I do, then be prepared for it to take a couple hours to delete everything. And do a defrag after.

> Does anyone else have any ideas?
>
> Are you sure you want to stay with IE? :-)
>
> Bob

Well, I'll stick with it for now (familiarity), but what other options are there? I really haven't followed what's available these days.

Lar

 

Re: browsers Larry Hoover

Posted by AuntieMel on August 15, 2004, at 20:54:47

In reply to Re: Javascript problem with Explorer Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 15:00:58

I'm using netscape now. I used explorer all the time at home, but the security problems have just become too severe for me now. The final straw was when they announced that the last update didn't contain the xp bits.

I'll go back when I am reasonably sure it's safe.

 

Re: temporary files problem with Explorer

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 16, 2004, at 9:04:47

In reply to Re: Javascript problem with Explorer Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on August 15, 2004, at 15:00:58

> it looks like one of the recent updates changed things. There's a new button in Tools>Internet Options>General tab> Temporary Internet Files> Delete Files> delete local files....

Are there now different settings for different types of temporary Internet files? I'm just wondering if this is a different procedure than (and I should update) the "Microsoft" bullet at:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#cleanup

Thanks, and I'm glad you figured this out,

Bob

 

Re: temporary files problem with Explorer Dr. Bob

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 10:09:37

In reply to Re: temporary files problem with Explorer, posted by Dr. Bob on August 16, 2004, at 9:04:47

> > it looks like one of the recent updates changed things. There's a new button in Tools>Internet Options>General tab> Temporary Internet Files> Delete Files> delete local files....
>
> Are there now different settings for different types of temporary Internet files? I'm just wondering if this is a different procedure than (and I should update) the "Microsoft" bullet at:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#cleanup
>
> Thanks, and I'm glad you figured this out,
>
> Bob

I can only say that it looks like this is a new feature with the latest XP/IE upgrade. It didn't allow clearing the local files before. I don't know what you used to be able to delete (when you asked it to delete the temp files), exactly, but it wasn't all the local files, for sure. That's why those third party software programs were once necessary. Now Mr. Gates has finally seen the light, and he added this new "feature" to his bloatware....errr....software.

Lar

 

Re: temporary vixen problem with admin

Posted by karen_kay on August 16, 2004, at 11:45:32

In reply to Re: temporary files problem with Explorer Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 10:09:37

um, err, good to see you back mr lar (trying to speak very fast so mr bob won't hear it... do you think he can hear this? hmmmm?)

 

Re: temporary files problem with Explorer

Posted by Dr. Bob on August 17, 2004, at 1:57:57

In reply to Re: temporary files problem with Explorer Dr. Bob, posted by Larry Hoover on August 16, 2004, at 10:09:37

> > I'm just wondering if this is a different procedure than (and I should update) the "Microsoft" bullet at:
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#cleanup
>
> I can only say that it looks like this is a new feature with the latest XP/IE upgrade. It didn't allow clearing the local files before.

OK, I've updated that section. Thanks again,

Bob


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