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Re: Magic Moment - very long

Posted by RealMe on September 7, 2007, at 21:09:11

In reply to Re: Magic Moment - very long RealMe, posted by Dinah on September 7, 2007, at 20:40:27

> I meant no offense. Perhaps I am a bit cynical. The therapy room just seems so insulated - much more so than most work settings. And certainly the people I come across at work don't seem eager to showcase their flaws. Neither do I for that matter. Even though flaws are pretty visible no matter what level of experience you have.

**You are absolutely correct, and more and more people are getting through training programs than should. When I got my ECT at the University of Chicago Hospitals, I saw the discharge summary the resident did on me. I was horrified, and I was told he would be dealt with and thanked for bringing to their attention his clear inepptitute. He couldn't even get my age right. I was talking to my T about this today and how this resident would never have made it through Menninger's, and he said that where I trained he would not have even gotten into the program. So, training is really different. I was blessed to get into such an outstanding training program, but I am not naive to the fact that more and more people are being churned through psychiatry, psychology, and social work programs. Things have losened up, and I don't know why. Used to be master's level psychology people could not get licensed, and now they can. I started out working with a master's degree but under the supervision of a Ph.D.

I realize it is me personally that cannot fathom pretending something is happening in therapy with a patient when actually something else is going on. It is truely sad that there are so many therapists ill equiped to do therapy. I often think that some of those folks do a worse job than I would do now even while I work on my sh*t, and yet I think I should take care of certain stuff before moving back into doing therapy again. Doing forensic evaluations is one way to keep myself in the field Typically I see people only once, and sometimes two or three times, and then that is it.

No offense taken. I just wanted to make a point that it is not my experience from training, etc. and is not how it is with all therapists.**
> On the other hand, having my sessions tape recorded is so far from what I'd accept that it didn't even come to mind. My therapist once had a tape recorder sitting in his room, clearly not running and with no tape in it, and I still asked him to unplug it. Trust is not easy for me. Trusting a tape recorder would be impossible. I even checked for the longest time that he took minimal notes.
> Me? Paranoid?

I remember one time at Menninger's, my therapist audiotaped an "interview" with me for a conference in Japan. I have the transcript, and it is enlightening. I was also videotaped doing some psych testing with a psychologist at Menningers, and I recall he was "sweating" more than me. Guess he was thinking about all the people who would see him and how he did. LOL. He was later director of psychology when I did my postdoc there, and he was/is a really nice and smart guy. Yep, none of us is perfect.
> :)
> I have heard about videotaped sessions, so I do know they happen.

Yes, in graduate school, I had to videotape a couple of sessions, and as is true with audiotapes, you and the client soon forget about the taping. I would not really want it now, though, and I was only willing to do it at Menninger's as I felt it would help with training psychiatrists in another country.





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