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Re: our spaceship for discovery... 64bowtie

Posted by Gabbix2 on December 5, 2004, at 17:14:30

In reply to our spaceship for discovery... Gabbix2, posted by 64bowtie on December 5, 2004, at 15:56:57

> > It's not black and white.
> <<< You mean "Progress, not perfection"...?

No, that's not what I meant. I meant every situation of depression is a little bit different. What works for one will not necessarily work for another.
> > It requires thinking, and thinking requires curiousity.
> >
> <<< Be careful. Not everyone is capable of logic. Not their fault.

I'm quite capable of logic, thanks.
To want to learn is to be curious.

>I haven't known anyone to feel curious and >depressed at exactly the same time. I've asked >and probed. Nobody yet...

Yes but it can be a mistake to make generalizations from one's own experience. I've not known anyone who's fought in a war yet, but I know that they exist.

Gardner girl told you, and I've told you we've remained curious during our depressions, try telling Larry H. he's not curious! or Chemist or the author of Noonday Demon or anyone who's suffering from depression and curious enough to search for a cure.
> <<< Could I be sharing about something never heard before, even though someone had to have known about it, since I've been putting bits and pieces of it together for nearly 20 years?
I've heard this before, my mom used to tell me this very thing.

> As an emotion, curiosity requires feeling. A professor from the University of Haifa, in Isreal, has written what seems the definitive tome on emotions. In there he discusses what an emotion is and includes curiosity as one.

That's semantics to me

> From Pop-Religion is another authur, currently much quoted, indicates that there are only two emotions, love and fear. I read both of these books at Border's Books over coffee.
> > Generalizations don't get you very far, and the truth generally lies somewhere in the middle.
> >
> <<< So, if the professor lists a couple hundred emotions and the authur says there are only two, wisdom indicates that perhaps there are 60 to 75 emotions, of which curiosity could be a likely place-holder on the list. ...making curiosity a feeling.
Curiosity is what it is.

> > ...To insinuate that one can will it away by gossiping less and becoming even more curious is reductive...
> >
> <<< How so?

Because you are working on the assumption that
A. everyone who suffers from Depression has the same symptoms
B. Everyone who has the symptoms of Major Depression is not curious
C. Everyone who has the symptoms of Major Depression gossips too much.
D. If these people who all suffer from the same symptoms (false) who are all not curious (false)
Who all spend to much time gossiping (false)
follow these instructions they will get better.

That's simplistic, reductive, and it would be really nice if it were that easy. Unfortunately if that were the case I would not have become depressed in the first place.




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