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Re: Bootstrap? Bootstrap Method? 64bowtie

Posted by Larry Hoover on August 20, 2004, at 13:23:04

In reply to Bootstrap? Bootstrap Method?, posted by 64bowtie on August 9, 2004, at 2:49:17

I waited a while to answer to this post, well, for a couple reasons, but the main one was I wanted to understand why reading it raised my emotions. I think I know, now.

> That said, why would I stoop to that level? Why would I be arrogant, aloof, insensative, detached, and condescending and remain here?

I can't imagine why you would even ask the questions themselves. I am mystified. Can you better explain your intention?

> My motives, feelings, and behaviors have been to inject

There's one of the emotional words....none too subtle....

> results orientation

....presupposes the orientation of others?

> where I find placation oriented discussions that historically turn a blind eye to anything unfamiliar.

Raises a false dilemma. I don't see that the critical factor is familiarity. Also assumes characteristics of others.

> So, I'm unfamiliar. Doesn't mean I'm bad or corrupt or to be avoided.

Shakespeare said, "Methinks she (or he, as the case may be) doth protest too much." It seems you defend, when you are trying to explain. Why?

Again, the issue isn't (un)familiarity.

> Please don't say I'm wrong outright. I am just parachuting in with knowledge and success that is off many radar screens. Perhaps I have information you don't even know that you don't even know that you can't even guess at.

Perhaps. Or something not relevant? Are there other possibilities to consider?

> There is continuing scrambling to push me in to categories this way and that, probably because I threaten stability in an already unstable environment. I'm not whining, wah, wah, wah.

When one comes across a sentence such as this one, it implies a comparison with an unknown but inferred group or individual. Who *is* whining, and going wah, wah, wah?

> I am asking for information from everybody.

Somehow, that question arises as a novel concept in the context of what I've already read.

> Is bootstrap a valuable label to you, or a derogation of my intentions, or something else, or nothing at all?

The key question, I suppose, though really four questions in one. Each answered separately, below.

1. No. If bootstrap was all I had to do, I'd have done it long ago. Quite to the contrary, inappropriately bootstrapping myself has caused me substantial grief and disability. There are times when bootstrapping is the wrong tactic, and for some, it may never be appropriate, ever again.
2. I am unclear of your intentions, and I do not know how your own theory derogates (sic) your intentions. I'm not even sure what you're asking.
3. It may be appropriate to some of the people some of the time.
4. It is only nothing to those who already do it, and never knew there was another realm of existence.

Lar

 

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