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Re: Bootstrap? Bootstrap Method?

Posted by pegasus on August 9, 2004, at 23:34:26

In reply to Bootstrap? Bootstrap Method?, posted by 64bowtie on August 9, 2004, at 2:49:17

>Why would I be arrogant, aloof, insensative, detached, and condescending and remain here? Why would I ever waste my time and your time herein to keep up this cloud of illusion? Please ask yourself why I am consistant and have never asked y'alls to deny your pain or your success.

Rod, I have to tell you that I often get exactly that impression when I read your posts, and I have indeed wondered why you keep posting that way. If aloof and condescending are attitudes that you're opposed to, then I think you're coming across differently than you mean to. At least to me.

>I am just parachuting in with knowledge and success that is off many radar screens. Perhaps I have information you don't even know that you don't even know that you can't even guess at.

Perhaps, indeed. And yet the ideas to which you refer here don't sound to me as new or revolutionary as you seem to think they are. I think many people here, including myself, have considered your approach before, and either agreed or decided for valid reasons that it didn't go far enough for them, or wasn't helpful for them, or they weren't ready for it or interested in it, that they disagreed, etc. I don't get the impression that people here are refusing to considering something because it is "off their radar."

Frankly, I'm annoyed whenever I see another post from you saying largely the same thing that you've said before, and directed to no one in particular, and therefore to all of us. I feel accused of *something* I can't put my finger on every time. If people were asking you about your ideas, or if you were tying it to specific incidents in specific posts, then your manifestos would be easier for me to take. As it is, I usually avoid reading your posts, because I know I usually react negatively to them.

Along the same lines, when I read your statement above, my first thought was that perhaps it would be useful for you to take your own advice (I'm not trying to be sarcastic here! I'm being sincere). You sound very earnest about being open minded. And yet, I get the impression that you may not yet have understood what many people here have been trying to tell you.

And yet, I also want to say that I have seen you be incredibly supportive, and you take criticism amazingly well. You obviously have passion about your view of things, and want to help people. So I hope you won't be offended by my frankness. I think I mostly want to give you feedback that might help you be *more* helpful here.






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