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Re: Intimacy, codependency issues noa

Posted by kalyb on May 25, 2003, at 16:43:55

In reply to Re: Intimacy, codependency issues kalyb, posted by noa on May 21, 2003, at 18:32:14

Thanks, noa....

I don't think I have particularly black and white thinking, I'm usually good at grey.

But one thing about the BPD that really struck home, is the lack of a core of self esteem, and the use of external things to gain self esteem. That's me, to a fault, and I've done that since as far as I can remember, even as a child.

Maybe other disorders/illnesses have that too - but at least reading it helped me realize something about myself, which I can eventually talk to a pdoc or therapist about!

Kalyb xx

> >the "black and white" thinking and the "overwhelmed" by things.
> Well, perhaps, but these can apply to other types of diagnoses and problems, as well, I believe. I think a lot of people with anxiety disorders have a fair amount of black and white thinking. Depression, too. I guess it would depend on how rigid and severe the black and white thinking is.
> Being overwhelmed? Geez--that goes with anxiety and depression, too!
> So, while the BPD dx might fit, I wouldn't be convinced by these two things.
> Like the web page fallsfall linked us to, it says that a lot of the characteristics described in the criteria for BPD are also present in the general population. It is probably a matter of degree and how much it impairs one's life.
> Like I said to ff, if a diagnosis is helpful in guiding treatment, then use it. If not (and especially if it just causes more distress), don't use it. It is, afterall, a man-made conceptualization to organize how to think about a group of troubling signs and symptoms. It doesn't actually exist in nature, as far as is known thus far. (Some researchers think some types of BPD can be explained by disorders that have been linked to more biological bases, like types of rapid cycling bipolar type disorders). Why organize the thinking about these signs and symptoms? Well, if it will help treat the problem, ok. If not, what is the point, ya know?
> Take care.




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