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Re: Valium- probiotics for effect... Hugh

Posted by Jay2112 on February 4, 2023, at 13:08:34

In reply to Re: Valium, posted by Hugh on January 30, 2023, at 10:33:27

> A supplement that might help with benzo withdrawal is the probiotic L. plantarum. It's a high GABA producer. It's thought that elevated proline levels can worsen depression, and L. plantarum converts proline into GABA.
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> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1550413122001280
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> https://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=l.%20plantarum
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I think there are some concerns about using particular probiotics to 'cure' certain things. If you check on reddit, there are people freaking out over l. plantarum causing major apathy, low libido, etc. I found the same with l. reuteri, and it's effect on testosterone. People flipping out, saying it causes them to be too aggressive, etc.

I guess the other thing is, is how much of this is placebo? Please, I am not trying to be so negative, but it seems the 'cure' causes so many other problems/concerns too. Plus, the cost...you look at the price of just one strain, and it will cost you a small fortune to keep in supply for a long time. Then, you think of combining the strains, which would be a smart idea to create balance, and you have to be wealthy to do that!

So, just some thoughts. I'd really like to be proven wrong, as I'd like to go this route and try some different probiotic strains, and see what happens. I just can't afford it!

Jay


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for not being what they believe they should be.
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