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Posted by socialworkintern on July 18, 2008, at 2:14:56
Some may think of it just being another stimulant, old news, or even safe. Well my friends I must tell you first that its 3am, and im going on my 4th day with no sleep, no food, and minimal fluids. Just a constant supply of Adderall. Both XR and non XR both 30mg, and I have been strung out on crack for months, but these 3 days are the worst of my life, and I cant stop because, yes I am PSYCICALY addicted, and MORE so psycologicaly LOCKED into the next project, or dose, I am abuseing these drugs, because I was tricked into beleaveing that they made me better, but now I am a stinky, rotton toothed, hungry, and stupid, Soical work student, I am obtaining these medicines legaly, Just not taking them as prescribed. I Have Cloral Hydrate, but I wont take it, I am scared of sleep, unfortanuatly a strong side affect of Adderall. I dread bedtime, Long boring hours wasted untill the sun comes up. Listen to my logic, Its twisted, my mind feels twisted. I NEED SLEEP!! I hope that just one person reads this and either A) Never takes Adderall, or B) Realizes its a problem. I want to help others, but my addicted mind must take care of it self first, and ANY amphetamine can ruin you and your life VERY quick, if you mess around and take more, or try to get high, or anything not indicated by the prescribing doctor. THIS IS HELL, but Adderall YELLS shut up take me at 3am, when you have taken a months doses in a couple days, well going on 4 today. PLEASE heed my warning, Stay away, your better off on crack, this sh*t is NASTY. wish me luck
Posted by antigua3 on July 19, 2008, at 12:00:52
In reply to What do you think you know about ADDERALL?, posted by socialworkintern on July 18, 2008, at 2:14:56
You've described addiction very well. It is hell. Now that you've warned others, what are you going to do for yourself to get out of this terrible place you're in?
I think you know what you need to do, and I hope you'll take the steps to get some help. Reach out and get it.
good luck,
antigua
Posted by socialworkintern on July 19, 2008, at 13:35:09
In reply to Re: What do you think you know about ADDERALL?, posted by antigua3 on July 19, 2008, at 12:00:52
> You've described addiction very well. It is hell. Now that you've warned others, what are you going to do for yourself to get out of this terrible place you're in?
>
> I think you know what you need to do, and I hope you'll take the steps to get some help. Reach out and get it.
> good luck,
> antiguaI finally hid that sh@t on myself and took my librium and ate a decent meal or two and worked on a computer to keep my mind occupied untill i fell aseelp, got 10-12 hours, woke up sore as hell, ate some breakfast and started out my day doing the things I really SHOULD of been doing that whole time, not cleaning my zodiac boat, or changeing sparkplugs (not needed) when I had a flat tire, It makes you very irrational, and cleaning is fun for some reason, Fixation is very strong. but i feel a lot better after sleep! IT was 4 days.
Posted by antigua3 on July 21, 2008, at 14:00:23
In reply to Re: What do you think you know about ADDERALL?, posted by socialworkintern on July 19, 2008, at 13:35:09
Keep up the good work. The longer you go, the easier it gets, but beware of triggers! Have a plan to get yourself out of situations ahead of time so you don't inadvertently lapse
Congratulations,
antigua
Posted by healing928 on August 17, 2008, at 19:42:26
In reply to What do you think you know about ADDERALL?, posted by socialworkintern on July 18, 2008, at 2:14:56
I am having the same problems. I didn't sleep last night. SOme background, I was of the crap last year, went in the fr*gg*ng hospital to get detoxed; IT TOOK WEEKS TO GET THE PHYSICAL CRAVINGS GONE, so now I HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN. There are better options out there, and everyone needs to be aware how you can become quickly dependent on it. Before people say, "People with ADD don't get addict." I do have ADD, but I take it due to "excessive daytime sleepiness disorder." which is a mild for of narcolepsy.
socialworkintern: I know what you are going through and it is PURE HELL!!!!
Posted by socialworkintern on August 17, 2008, at 20:26:16
In reply to Re: What do you think you know about ADDERALL?, posted by healing928 on August 17, 2008, at 19:42:26
> I am having the same problems. I didn't sleep last night. SOme background, I was of the crap last year, went in the fr*gg*ng hospital to get detoxed; IT TOOK WEEKS TO GET THE PHYSICAL CRAVINGS GONE, so now I HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN. There are better options out there, and everyone needs to be aware how you can become quickly dependent on it. Before people say, "People with ADD don't get addict." I do have ADD, but I take it due to "excessive daytime sleepiness disorder." which is a mild for of narcolepsy.
> socialworkintern: I know what you are going through and it is PURE HELL!!!!
I know i have the same problem, Why would anyone want to stop taking a medicine that makes you alive, and in my case my excessive daytime sleepyness comes from Librium, and Geodon, without adderall, I Eat, drink pop, and smoke ciggs like a fiend, anything to get a little stimulation. But unfortunalty there is no substitue for good ol' adderall. Tryed the XR, lied to the doc, said lasts too long and its not strong enough. Now im on such a high dose my reguar pharmacist questions me. There deffintly is a difference between regular adderall and XR. I actually functioned perfectly, not feeling like a coked up shakey *ss tweaker. No hard come down. Just a pinch of clinched jaw, as compared to tooth breaking pressure (and a head ache to go with that) and I actually took the XR one morning and Fell asleep. Now thats either my high tolleance, or proof of the differnce. Because there is no way, short of choral hydrate am i going to sleep after taking a 30mg tablet of amphetmines (OLD adderall) BUT on the other hand, Cristal clear thoughts, intentions, and motivations appear, it just all seems so easy. Shopping was once a horrible task, now i zip through the market finding everything, forgetting nothing, especially the prescriptions. Some would think that a stiulant would cause anxiety, but thats actually not the case for most with add- AdHd, because there anxiety is about the symtomps of add-adhd, hence eliminate the add-adhd and you have nothing to be anxious about, in fact self of steem goes up, along with confidence. But sadly this is all man made, comes in pill form, and is a schedule II, controlled substance. So unless you REALLLY and i mean REALLLY need this to make it from day to day, stay away, and if you do somewhat, 30mg of adderall XR is perfect. Just try to rember that is the max size in XR so if a smaller dose works, stick with it, you dont want to end up on, well basicly, SPEED, Cocaine, crack, whatever, 60-180mg of regular adderall is the same TRUST ME.
Posted by healing928 on August 17, 2008, at 21:34:26
In reply to Re: What do you think you know about ADDERALL?, posted by socialworkintern on August 17, 2008, at 20:26:16
i am having fr*gg*ng auditory hallucinations and my head is killing me. I hear humming sounds and like bricks being thrown.. I don't think i can live like this much longer. It is a fr*gg*ng cycle of madness. It seems like no one fr*gg*ng gets it, and the docs will just give me more if i telll them.... My therapist can't stand the crap, and thinks it is to easily given. The docs don't know what this sh*t does. I know it is very beneficial for some, NOT ME!!! HELL HELL HELL HELL>
Posted by healing928 on September 16, 2008, at 9:46:03
In reply to How much more? TW maybe, posted by healing928 on August 17, 2008, at 21:34:26
I flushed my remaining pills. I can't stand the person I am anymore. We will see how it goes today.
Posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 2:10:56
In reply to Re: How much more? TW maybe, posted by healing928 on September 16, 2008, at 9:46:03
Our sociewty is crazy. Doctors prescribe this stuff to young children so they will get better grades without the parents having to take any responsibility for anything. Others learn what to say to go get scripts. Me, I am honest about my history of drug abuse but I love this drug and get it when I can illegally so I am far from a mentor here BUT , I have some important things to say:
1 - Don't ever snort the stuff. That will make the addiction and insantiy parts of the drug much worse because it goes directly to the brain, causes a rush, a crsh, and a craving for more.
2- Don't use benzodiazopines to calm yourself down if you have any history of addiction to benzoids. The Adderall somehow multiplies the rebound from the benzoids and can throw you into benzoid withdrawal for a week! Durring this time, the Adderall won't do any of the good things anymore - it just becomes wothless and annoying.
3-I know this sounds bad but a little alcohol will help if you are trying to calm down. Focus on sex for a while and once you have an orgasm, have another drink, eat, and just lay down, close your eyes, and think about something calm.
4- although there is physcial stuff involved with this drug for sure, don't under estimate the your thought process. It should not have a crash anything like cocaine etc if you are taking the pills orally
5 - if you have a bad problem with it, don't take it agian!
Posted by ross2009 on October 12, 2009, at 9:04:33
In reply to Re: How much more? TW maybe, posted by WhyandHow on October 11, 2008, at 2:10:56
Hey, I've been having quite a similar problem like that before and then I came across a supplement called amphetarestore. Its manufacturer claims that it can effectively lower the body's dependency on drugs/medications and also acts as a detoxifying agent. I took a gamble and bought a 1 month supply from their website and was taking it everyday together with my meds. At first I actually thought that it was just a scam, but I continued to take it (the hell I bought 30 capsules, so i might as well consume it). After 6 days, I noticed that I can really feel my meds kick in, that's the time I thought, maybe this amphetarestore is really helping and this is what it's suppose to do. After that, I experimented on lowering my meds dosages little by little and up to now, I'm taking all my meds at the lowest dosage. I still take amphetarestore everyday together with my drugs and still feel them kick in strong.
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