Psycho-Babble Social Thread 1120683

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Posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2022, at 19:43:22

the nz government has chosen to implode.

they have chosen not to try and work towards being better. developing etc.

they think their job is to drag their heels and be the lowest of the lowest of the low that they can get away with being...

with all the marketing and advertising and propaganda of being something actually desirable to people other than the slavers and perverts. those who enjoy torturing people. who have stories about how they victims just love being tortured. about how people only really want to be dependent on various other people who are paid enough for 4 people or 10 people or to keep a whole institution of people doing anything anything anything anything anything for a little as possible...

there isn't any philosophy. literature. arts. culture. justice.

where are the fruits of civilisation?

too busy trying to gnaw each others arms off...

it's sooooooooooo competitive.

it's sooooooooooooooooo competitive.

people will do anything anything anything anything anything to party party party with 80 year old administrators...


australian constitution

Posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2022, at 19:58:41

In reply to imploding, posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2022, at 19:43:22

the australian constitution states quite clearly that new zealand is a state of australia.

it is named very specifically.

the constitution says that various states have consented to unite in a federation..

it says western australia hasn't been asked yet, or hasn't replied yet, but they anticipate western australia will consent. So they ask for it to be regarded as part of the federation since it will consent.

i suppose it is slightly unclear what would have happened if it said that it did not consent. if that would mean that it was part of the federation even though it did not want to be... or if that would mean that he would not be part of the federation.

regardless, it consented. apparently. nobody questions, today, to the best of my knowledge, that western australia consented and that it is part of the federation of australia. by consent.

the constitution says specifically that it is expedient to regard new zealand to be a state even though it hasn't asked or replied. that means to say they did not care about whether new zealand consented, or not. the relevant issue was one of what was expedient. it was decided that it was in fact expedient to regard new zealand to be part of the federation of australia and that expediency was enough.

it is true that england witnessed this document and signed off on it. acknowledged the federation of australia (comprised of various states and western australia - on some presumption of consent perhaps - and the inclusion of new zealand on grounds of expediency).

but the thing that is really really really really really really really relevnat is that australia regarded new zealand to be one of the original states on grounds of expediency. Nobody is questioning that it was in fact expedient for them to have regarded it to be a state without caring about consent.


There is a process for changing the constitution of Australia. It involves voting etc etc. I guess if people are required to vote they need to know something about what the issue is that they are voting on...

Australia refuses to supply voting papers to New Zealanders.

I guess the idea is that New Zealand only represents expediency to Australia. That means or is to say that what is actually written into the Australian Constitution ist hat New Zealnd is whatever Australia regards as expedient for it to be. So, if it is expedient for Austrlaia to treat NZ as a back door to Australia (perhaps)... E.g., to treat NZ as a prison camp or detention centre of Australia...

Where people are held without Australian wages (States are not allowed to oprint their own money but Australia arranges for New Zealand Dollars to be printed on plastic in Canada, I believe)...

And so on...


They are making a big deal of it, now...

Aboriginal people of Australia were not counted in census etc until 1960's apparently.

Australians are very racist. With explicit 'white Australia' laws up until very recently about wanting to curb the migrants from countries that are not western / white in appearance and culture. Wanting to limit the number of migrants from China and Japan and Asia etc.

Sort of 'Neighbours' or 'Home and Away' propaganda on what it is or means to be Australian. To be white. The cultural aspects of that.

'Home and Away' is particularly... Urm... Given the Stolen Generation. What it is to be in state care. Living in a trailor park?? Propaganda...



They are making a big deal of including mention of Aboriginal people being represeted in the constitution now. They were purposely excluded before. It isn't about the census so much as the withholding of voting papers. Withholding of information so that they were in teh position of being able to vote.

It matters that New Zealanders are excluded from voting in this recent idea to have a vote on whwether or not to include aboriginal voice in Australian Constitution.

Because New Zealanders are (I would imagine) more likely to vote that there should be an Aboriginal voice.

But New Zealanders don't count. THey just do whatever is expedient...


Australia refuses to acknowledge that New Zealand is a State of Australia.

Australia refuses to supply voting papers to New Zealanders so they can vote in federal elections.

Australian payroll systems refuse to pay australian wages to people employed as teachers and doctors and nurses etc in New Zealand.

The Australian National University refuses to acknowledge they have received complaints from New Zealanders. Refuses to train studnets (refuses to supply evidence of supervision of research). Refuses to get studnets work to external examiners...

The Australian National University apparently 'does not care' if I take tehm to Federal Court over their refusal to provide evidence of supervision to me, refusal to properly process application to enrol (asserting they now have no capacity to supervise and they have no capacity to identify a writing sample when they already have 3 on file as having been received from previous applications that were suffient for them to put to me to 'work' on summer scholar and phd student rates)...

They don't have universities.. they don't have functioning judiciary.

Apparently the Federal Courts no speak-y english.

The problem must be all the MIgrants. Yeah, right.


Re: australian constitution

Posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2022, at 20:13:21

In reply to australian constitution, posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2022, at 19:58:41

there is basically one guy (kim sterelny) who, so far as i can see, functions as the 'god of the philosophers' or the chief executor of the philosophy where he gets to decide who gets all the research funding and what will be funded and so on...

i mean, he feels that it is perfectly fine or acceptable for him to pronounce to me that he feels that he has decided what is a good lifeway for me and it is one where there is a job for me over his dead body.

he writes about the work that was done, quite a lot of it, where you take animals and you raise them in cages to do medical experiementation on them. the macquaque monkeys etc in harvard.

then think about the harry harlow deprivation in the name of love experiments etc. the kinds of research that marc hauser was doing.

i would imagine that the primary function or reason for the primate research laboratories was to do chemistry or biochemistry kinds of torture in the name of medical science research primarily or mostly.

so if you were to read the ethics board applications for funding or approval they would say things like how they needed to replicate for the n+1th time that such and such a dosage of a thing fairly intuitivevely obviously toxic really was toxic... because it's part of training the next generation in repeating the crimes of the previous in the name of replicability...

but the social science aspects was also fun for people, i suppose. keepign critters in conditions of deprivation and torture because... well, it's fun, i suppose. it's so joyous to be head of a research laboratory with primates kept in conditions that are toxic and horrible for them.

the macquaques.

but why stop there?

the graduate students.

but why stop there?

and of course the laboratory findings don't have real world applicability because the real woudl is not the heavily structured environment of the labotory.

so now we have our design plans for the world outside the laboratory!



to choose to invest in that which you want to see more of...

the prevention and prohibition of social development.

keeping people in conditions of torture.

don't see any people. zombies the world over. won't be pleased until the only homo sapiens are acting like harry harlows monkeys escaped...

no arts. culture. justice. fairness.

meaning. value.

nothign to live for.

the final solution. most efficient. maximally efficeint. no waste. nothing. nothing. nothign at all.

dark ages, indeed.

has been taken over by psychopaths or sociopaths, in fact.

but apparently it's okay...

because the nazis were only committing atrocities against the 'other'. apparently they were wonderful loving husbands and fathers and brothers on their off days. yeah right. nodboy would say otherwise therefore...

and it's trivial to serve justice on mondays and themselves as gods every other day of the week. yeah right.


and it isn't just philosophy. it's history of labor in new zealand as well. and australia of course.

penal colony.

by design.

the government of new zealand and australia takes itself to be (today) managing or administrating a penal colony where the idea/l appears to be as punitave towards as many as you can be for as long as you are getting away with it.


I guess it's sometihng to do with 'and it takes the minerals and it puts them on the dump truck and it hands them over'.

and so australia is only just barely barely barely able or allowed to have rudiments of manufacturing...

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