Psycho-Babble Social Thread 1115227

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so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 13:10:51

international employment agencies, i suppose.

to deploy people where they can be the most effective.

in keeping general productivity low.

in keeping as many people living in as appalling conditions as possible.

i wonder where the ports of auckland guy got deployed to next?

where they invited him to work.

or the positions they invited him to apply for.

let's see... he's shows good resilence in persisting on his track in the face of everybody telling him not to.

he's been subject to everyone accusing him of disregarding employees health and safety after many people died... just disregarding employees health and safety for his own personal profits.

where will they put him next?


i wonder what kind of promotion is in store for him that he held back the humane development of the ports of auckland for so long.

its a rare and valuable skill, that.

maybe the meatworks?
sawmill? forestry?

i suppose you put in an fyi request, don't you.

ask what new zealand government jobs he's been offered since / instructed to apply for by the government recruitment agency.


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 13:44:52

In reply to so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 13:10:51

and they shuffle them around.

or i wonder if it is more that they do a recruitment drive for new zealand.

so, for example, when a CE has identified themself as being a bully sellout who is incompetent at promoting or furthering the interests of genuine growth and development and the like...

they invite them to apply for an all expenses paid trip to new zealand.

they do keep on about how we need to offer these people tons of money to properly incentivise them to give up their lives overseas and move all the way to new zealand. make the place seem attractive so they'll be inspired to do that.

i suppose because the northern hemisphere wants to get rid of them.

get them out of the picture. because they are an impediment or obstruction, i suppose.

that's likely why they say the CE pay is so high. so that if people from overseas get an offer from new zealand they think they've got a pretty sweet deal.

particularly if they don't have ties or connections or whatever in the northern hemisphere. if getting away is attrative.

if operating in a country of less laws with less precedent is attractive.

more ability to get away with... things that are prohibited overseas. less laws usually means less protections for the people... on paper anyway. less capacity to deliver justice...

perhaps. i don't know.


are they really paid that much? or is it all just a hoax. a scam. to incentivise the problems to move to new zealand. so people can get on with development without these idiots holding everythign back.

i guess that would make sense of why they insist upon filling so many jobs with people from overseas only. will not look at new zealanders for the positions. no point. they are already here. it's about mopping up the worlds pedophiles and psychopaths.

that would make sense of things, rather.

but then why would things be different in reverse?

i suppose the whole thing is keeping them moving keeping them moving keeping them moving...

they reckon early humans most likely managed to hunt large herbivores by keeping them walking. because large herbivores need to spend a lot of time grazing. eating food. so all the humans would have needed to do was make a racket to keep them walking. no need to run them down. just walking. just moving. just keep them not eating. prevent them from grazing. then they will drop with exhaustion. eventually. because humans can eat while they walk.

just keeping them moving keeping them moving keeping them moving. keeping them focused on moving. keeping them moving around. moving house i mean. packing up stuff and moving. keep them moving. keep them moving around.

keep them interacting with new people. new people. different people. so they don't know who can be trusted.

people get exhausted and settle down. stop. with exhaustion.


that's what development looks like?

no. there's landed gentry.


they keep going on and on and on and on and on and on and on about the property ladder. getting on the property ladder. getting started on the property ladder. only one way to go on the property ladder. things are on teh up.

but generally the whole ideology is down down down just how low can we go? no! lower! lower than low!

know who fixes the property prices?

the courts.

you take your landlord to court claiming they are charging unfair rent.

the judge or adjudicator then fixes the rent price.

the rent price is thereby fixed.

the adjudicator stated a $30 per week rent rise was apporpirate for my apartment. thereabouts.

so the government just gave beneficiaries $30 extra per week.

to cover the rent rise that was approved by the judiciary.


just when you think you are getting away... they pull you back.

just when you think they are letting you get ahead... they claw it back.

of course.


it's interesting what people do with information. the whole knowledge is power thing.

like... the administration tactics of harlene hayes (the vc of otago).

the sort of organisational psychology techniquies or skills you would use if you wantedt o keep your people, your workers, oppressed. slaving. downtrodden and disempowered. dis-spirited. unhappy.

mixing up the teams all the time. re-structing all the time. dividing and conquering all the time. arbitrary promotions for some (seems like it) and everyone wondering if they will be the next person to go. to be axed from the team.

to keep them in line. yessir nosir anything you say sir afraid of losing their jobs.

they start to bitch and complain and rally together..

so they actually introduced this 'rate me' thing. for customer service. so the students could rate the person they just interacted with.

like the community app... what was it.. miow miow beans.

so the customer services officers are smiling putting on happy faces to the customers no matter how fearful they are of losing their jobs... happier faces from more fear -- right? more fear inspires happier face -- right? no shortage of replacement workers if you won't comply...

sort of psychological warfare tactics or techniques...

and the talks...

the things people would say...

and they were filming or streaming often. partiuclarly the ethics talks.

to who? i wonder... it isn't plausible to think just or only new zealand.

all those talks about how the psychopaths always win. those talks. basically.

tryign to motivate and inspire people to do what, exactly?

oh yeah. give them all of their stuff and kiss their *ss*s thankful that things weren't worse. because things can always be worse. right? things can always be worse. things can always be worse. and if you don't suck up and comply and smile when we say then things will be worse. we will make things worse we will make things worse...

seems to be the idea.

seems to be the way.

it's like the justice said. they took away all the privaledes you had. and when that didn't work to force complaince they started removing all of the most basic of your human rights. in an attempt to crush your spirit.

that's the management strategy of new zealand.

of much of the world, seems likely.

put particularly of new zealand.

to force compliance.

to prevent development.

to empower pedophiles and psychopaths.

so they want to come here, i suppose. so they voluntarily come here.

start by creating the desire...

and then watch the things unfold.


and so they clean their notes.
clean their data.
alter the medical records.
they get governmetn workers, seems likely.
to alter the documentation.

and then what?

then they make it clearer to them that there's bodycams and the like.
security cameras from above
in teh OR
in the hallway
in the ambulance
watching them
recording them
so they better not violate patients rights.

they better comply

otherwise photoshop
otherwise they'll be set up for a crime
it's all there on camera
all their crimes
brought to you by a hollywood basement

is the next step, obviously.

time stamped and dated by the people who have administrator access

the people who designed the system

the people who designed the system who designed the system

there will be all these workers of spies spying on each other not knowing if they will be fired for not exposing a spy or they'll be fired for explosing a spy

create confusion

breed distrust

keep things from developing. prevent the development.
keep things back and down
keeop the people with smiling faces and forced compliance

and then just don't go into public anymore
get the public people going about in herds
gamma baby herds
the rush hour to work the rush hour away from work
just live your life outside the rush hour
away from teh herds

all the mounds of rubbish and crap

the lack of art
the lack of joy
the lack of hope

just say away from all of that and stay away from all of those

is the plan?
or the effects... just the way things are or go.

we are supposed to believe we don't need an invisible hand to pull things in better directions.

but i think the situation is more that we do need an invisible hand to have kept things held back and prevented from developing the way that things clearly have been

all around the globe

so far as we know

so far as i know

what is convenient for them to have me believe

its a shame they won't let me contribute in meaningful ways

all about forcing compliance

because that's precisely how you keep thigs back and down

how are we going with sourcing those euthanasia drugs, then?

so the aged care institutions (moving into 16 year olds now. as i said in 2018 (yawn) i'ts a great way to make money, hey. immmobilise people and force them to live in institutions. less and less services for more and mor eand more money for the keepers of the instituation).

once they've figured how to get any inheritence there might be... once they've figured there is no more to be got...

night night.

all of the money for nobody home. literally.


i don't believe the suicides i'm supposed to believe in recently.

am i supposed to be scared? scared for my life?

be quiet alex or they will come and take you in the night.


the lengths they go to.

'just follow orders alex. kill who we say when we say because we say with a smile on your face -- thats what it means to be a doctor in new zealand. right? there's kids who will do it with joy in their hearts. why would we pick you?'


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:14:14

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 13:44:52

just follow orders alex. kill who we say when we say because we say with a smile on your face -- thats what it means to be a doctor in new zealand. right? there's kids who will do it with joy in their hearts. why would we pick you?'

and that's the message i get.

over and over and over and over and over and over and over...

new zealand: nothing to see here! move along!

university of otago...

you can do anatomy (but your opportunities will be seriously limited because only medical doctors get to do this, that, and the other thing). so mostly you will be kept as a medical doctor fanboy. we like to keep the fanboys around. we like to divide and conquer. it keeps things particularly oppressive for the medical doctors, too. having all the 'support staff' hating them. for the opportunities they (allegedly but likely not actually) have... forensics. you know. to find that someone just drops dead of no good reason and they certainly weren't murdered by the government. and of course that pedophile is dead and that's the pedophile. it wasn't that the pedophile killed the pedophile killer and we did the body sub with no dental records and a closed casket... not at all. and of course we never feed prisoners to each other in the slops. that's not our plan for kuru on the aged care (moving into youth care) institutions.

course not.

nothing to see here. move along.

and the bioanthropology. but of course there are limits on the human remains thing. only 50 years in nz. so you can go grave robbing in cemetaries no problem, but nothing that might implicate anything to do with a crime. no body identification. no medical implant retrieval. nothing like that...

no finding microchips on people.

nothing like that...

no finding organs have been removed...

no finding things have been implanted...

ntohign like that. of course. nothing like that.

hmm... what else...

what else is alex allowed to do.

basiclaly... anything. anything EXCEPT what she wants to do.

that's the nature of the oppression you see.

and of course they fill the course with quite a few from parental expectation.

i mean... the more people they have doing things they don't want the more opporessive things are. thereby the more harlene hayes has made it in life. the more you manage to get people doing things they don't want to do the more you win. you see... that's the real measure of a true leader. success in life.

displaying the authority to walk into any studnets bedroom. whether they be in university accommodation or not. to confiscate things you do not approve of.

your unlimited power!!!!

do they really want her at Curtain? does australia really want her to prevent curtain from developing??

hmm.... trying to understand...

but sure. the message is loudly and clearly 'go away alex. nothing to see here. go away. get lost'.


in the earlier days of my time at Otago i managed to get to a few talks.

genuine talks.

some of them were quite good.

but when i wasn't as easily... compliant.

with the decision they had made about the options that were open to or available to me...

then there was some kind of take-over.

the message got louder and clearer that there was nothing to see and it was time for me to bugger off.


the housing...

they are very into 'dr pane' gets to be a dentist. because it's funny haha.

xx toogood (actual last name) gets to be a judge. because that's funny haha. also his father was a gameshow host on tv. a show called 'it's in the bag'. people choose 'the money or the bag'. now we have a saying 'well with justice toogood we know it's in the bag!!' lol. it's very funny. that's the sort or kind of thing they like to see more of in new zealand. because of the message it conveys, i suppose. that everything is fixed. it's opporessive. right?

but the people who take themselves to be the elite white in new zealand find these sorts of things amusing. like... with a name like that things were all laid out. the future was fixed. it was inevitable. there was nothing anybody could do about that. events just unfolded the way they were supposed to.

would a rose by any other name smell so sweet?

its in their nature. we just do a longitudinal study observing the obvious unfold. our observational study (no intervention only observation) isn't altering anything (yeah right).

our failure to intervene to prevent human abuses like those damn 'rate my customer service officer' machines... is just allowing the inevitable to unfold. i mean she's just acting in accordance with her nature -- right?

i remember the relatively early talk by the australian ethics guy. basically saying that the australians (many of them) are taught that they are working off bonded places or they don't get to do medicine at all. working off the bonded places means complying with government directive. whether it be upliftnig kids to state care or performing euthanasia or whatever. you do what you are told when you are told because you are told or you don't have any job at all. no training programme. no job. your job is to do as you are told. that is the job. that is the nature of the job.

because that's one of the forms modern warfare takes. how we keep popualtions opporessed. feeding them infant milk formula that's been carefully formulated to keep them in a state of nutritional deprivation and the like...

keeping attention focused on 'accidental' thing sthat will take money and resources to fix. adn saying it is hard but we are trying...

diverting attention from all the money and resources we intentionally invest and expend on artificially holding back and keeping down.

all the work that harlene hayes put into keeping so many of the university of otago employees living in fear. constant fear. working for less and less pay. believing they were expendible and replaceble. breeding a culture of fear adn opporession.

all the work that went into that. that goes into that. all the time and energy and resources to keep the people down. keep them down. all the policies...

the invisible hand really isn't invisibl.e it's pretty darned obvious...

knowing that she came through psychology makes sense of a lot of it.
and the auckland guy... that he came through writing a thesis (or having a thesis written for him) about the lambs that inevitably die every year (for the insurance money i suppose) because of lack of feed in the winter time in the south island of new zealand. it's a great background to be leader of a university. keeping the studnets as sheeple.

that was the plan to prevent the growth and development of new zealand universities.

that appears rather obviously to have actually been the plan.


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:28:42

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:14:14

so there's nothing to see here, alex, better move along...

where to?

to australia? but things don't seem to be any better over there...

last i heard / saw things were moving more in the direction of new zealand.

likely because of the australian directive.

the move to not pay people to grade students work.

to encourgage the jumbling of grades (grades are all revisable or finali-isable by the council (or people who have the authority to act on behalf of the council when the council is not in meeting) anyway...

the move to not give studnets scholarships...

not pay them to tutor...

to get people working more and more and more and more and more for less and less and less and less and less and less and less...

to get people working for nothing until they go away...

to be replaced by younger people who will do the same again (who will actually do more and even more and more for even less and less and less)

that's the direction of development.

in upside down and back to front land.

where the aim is to ensure that nothing develops.

no art.

none of it.

fires and plagues and... a space development programme... uh... satellites... uh...

locusts plague the lands...

all to teach alex that you figure a way to pry what's yours from their cold dead hands because there isn't another way.


you are just like me!

you comply with what they say when they say because they say with smiles on your face!

when they say 'hey murder that one over there' you go 'of course with love and joy in your heart'

and you willingly make up data while giving infants HPV or feeding them fomula designed to be nutritionally deficient. because it's fun to watch the care and feeding of gamma babies...

it appears we wouldn' thave things any other way


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:36:11

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:28:42

see alex see see see!
see how lucky you are that were not picked out!
that you were not chosen!!
as a child!

you were not picked out to do medicine!

see teh fate you have been spared of and from!

aren't you glad you are not an alpha baby.

repeat alex. repeat after me:

'i'm so lucky i'm not an alpha baby.
i'm so lucky i wasn't picked out to be an alpha medical studnet baby.
alpha medical student babies are required to infect people with sexually transmitted and other diseases on the request of whoever pays them the most-est.
i'm so lucky i'm not an alpha baby.
i'm so lucky i' not an alpha medical studnet baby.
alpha medical student babies are required to abuse and kill people upon the request of whoever pays them the most-est.
or not whoever pays them the most-est.
whoever has most-est control of their lives.
whoever is able to provide the most convincing display or power over them.
i'm so lucky i'm not an alpha baby!'

keep going:

'i'm so glad i'm a beta baby!
i learn philsophy which is of no use at all
nobody ever killed anybody from philosophy
philosophy's such a worthless useless sort of kind of a skill
i'm soooooooo glad i'm a beta baby!

good job!!!!!

good job alex. i think she's catching on!!!!!

'i'm so glad i'm a gamma beta baby!
i get to spend my entire career having my work re-written and re-re-written and re-re-re-written and re-re-re-re-re-written by all the other beta babies!!
i'm so glad i'm a gamma beta baby!
i get to throw more and more and more money at the university for involutnarily detaining me against my will so the other beta babies can steal my work and pass it off as their own and provide me with work they approve of crediting to me!
i'm soooo glad i'm a gamma beta baby!

appears to the development programme.

to ensure it doesn't happen anytime soon.


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:42:57

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:36:11

where are the theses?

where are they, then?

i know how it is supposed to go.

you do the work: you get credit for the work.

like... you know. you do your job. you get paid.

you do your work. you get your paycheck.

only: new zealand: it's not working.

they only give me a paycheck to keep me on 'disability' because i lack the capacity to work full time and i have a criminal record for punching a nurse.

that's how new zealand chooses to keep me.

while the pedophiles get...

all the things.

it seems.

all the things.

that's the message.

so... harlene hayes... psychology background (love what you chose to do with it!!) apparently doing what it takes to be promoted to australia...

the law professor guy who got as many kids as they could get running around naked at law camp... promoted to auckland...

and the ce of auckland... the let the lambs die in teh cold of winter guy... living off of the fat of the lambs... the gamma baby degree programes where the kids were kept artificially crowded sitting in bag racks on the bus out to the gamma baby campus to learn about the health system olympics... and how our spending least on healthcare per population makes us the best because sicko said and even cuba has a better health system than america didn't you know???


nothing to see here, alex. move along...

you've had your education. time to let the new kids have their dose of it.

before we put them to work.

creating word salad for the ministry of health.


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:59:44

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:42:57

i do get the idea that it's supposed to make me run back crying to be a philosopher in australia.

i'm supposed to 'wake up' to the reality that 'i didn't know how lucky i was!!!' to be a gamma baby philosopher.

taking... 10 years? to do 2x phd's?

until the supervisor decides it's time to sign you off...

at which point you get sort of thrown out to your post-doctoral fellowship and they see how you fare independently...

if you can produce. or if you are more about the parties and the lifestyle. putting all your work into teaching. caring what underlings think of you rather than doing teh bare minimum on that and putting your energy into producing to advance your career...

increasingly they will only sign off on the people they know won't work independently. won't produce during the post-doc. will be distracted by parties and undergrads.

so they won't get anything after that first post-doc.

but that's okay. plenty more graduates from whence they came.

just replace them with the new generation.

and it's about grubbing your way up the money tree quickly as possible.

or... it's not.

don't then.

see how cold it is.

nothing here to see, alex.
nothing there to see, alex.
nothing here to see, alex.

how you doing alex?

we took away your privaledges...
then we took away your rights...

how you doing?

do you like the cold?

and the longer i wait to go grovelling back to them...
entirely and completedly powerless at their mercy of what they choose to do with me (if they choose to spare me at all)...

but of course i won't.

and of course that makes them entirely committed to my being forever locked out in the cold.

we invested in you...


and i produced under your watch.

i had a talk ready to go at 6 months. and i gave it. i was productive for that first 6 months.

i have 2 per year. and i had written 5,000 words per year. the talks were written up properly. articles. or chapters.

and instead of helping me or advising me something along the lines of 'good good keep going'. or 'i'm concerned about your progress can we have a meeting'. i got...

nothing. no feedback. nothing.

and then when you are forced to give feedback from university administration requirement...

why hasn't your studet done their 6 months review it's 12 months?
(why didn't you acknowledge the work your studnet did at the 6 month mark?)
why hasn't your student done their mid-term review i'ts been more than 1 year adn 1/2)
(why didn't you acknowledge the work your studet did at the one year and one half mark?)

'i'm not going to chase her'

you don't need to chase her. she's right there. and ther'e sthe work that she did. while / when you were her supervisor.

where is your acknwoledgement of her?
where is her credit?

if you have a problem with her work or her credit then tell her concretely what you want her to do.

you want to write her thesis for her?

over the next... how long?

and she can look after your house when you go away?
clean up your cats vomit?




out in the cold then?

and the university adminstation did...


and yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah. alex soooooooooooooooooooooooooo wants to move back to australia.

yeah right.

for obvious reasons.

you didn't know how lucky you were alex!!

cleaning up your supervisors cats vomit

and clearing dishes back of house

that's why you enrol in a phd programme in philsophy.


but i saw other stuff...

and the stuff can't be unseen.

i hear the dementors.

but the stuff can't be unseen.

and i'm immune to the dementors now.

this isn't me being my own worst enemy at all.

this is my petronus charm...

i'm immune from the dementors.

that's what they see in me...

that's why it's so cold...

the cold about me...


let her be a lesson to you all.

why you clean up your supervisors cats vomit with a willing heart

why you beg to stay close to him starting your theiss over and over and over and over and over and over again...

for the next 10 years?

for the next forever???

until he say's he gives you permission to submit your theiss for examination?

until he chooses to free his slave?

why would he?


1. apply to enrol by the deadline.
2. submit thesis for examination.
3. obtain reports of external examiners.
4. collect the degree that was completed in teh normal or standard time.
5. move on to your next project.

let your next project be complaining to the UN that the universities of new zealand refuse to get their studnets work to examiners and refuse to base the outcome of examiantion on reports of examiners in order to keep slaves.

like they are doing in canberra.



Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:21:58

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 14:59:44

> like they are doing in canberra.
> ffs.

like they are doing *to the New Zealanders* in canberra.

who is going to stop them? they are committed to the ideology that it is too costly to punish and they are committed to preventing / undermining apprentiseships throughout Australia.

people were using their Australan training to immigrate to the USA. to good jobs in desirable locations in the USA.

so Australia decided to hold New Zealanders (at least) as hostages.

there's this idea about a hierarchy, you see. and everybody in acadamia is supposed to be busily working trying ot make it to Harvard.

and there's this idea of what progress or progression is reaonsable, you see.

so, for example, if you work to become a teacher than you might become a teacher and then you might be able to use your position to leverage your child into a better position in the next generation. entrance and sign off from a training programme where they can end up being soething *better than* a teacher. becaue that's what lifes about. clearly. aiming for the top (CE of harvard, i supppose).

and it's reasonable for new zealanders to move to australia and australians to move to the usa.. but it's not reasonable for new zealanders to move to the usa. and it's reasonable for new zealanders to fill the role in australia that were filled by asutralians who have fled to the usa...

the flow of migrants.

the direction they keep people walking.

when i returned to new zealand from australia without going straight into a job... i was marked.

no job for me.

hahahaaahahahahaha sent home in disgrace with no degree. no job.

that's what they thought of me.

but, you know. i wrote a thesis. 1 year of work in 1 year. easy because i'd spent so much of my life working things out and reflecting on things.

the evolved apprentice...

became enlightened to the system of slavery.

you go tthings to there.

yay you. well done.

i suppose he hates new zealadn. to be fair... he was very productive in a country that is mostly not. journal and all that. grew a field. from new zealand. wow.

but that's no exucse not to sign your studnet off. that's no excuse not to do that part o fyour job. that was yoru job . to research and train the next generation of researchers. you were supposed to SIGN OFF and keep the ones with potential with you in that way. if you don't sign them off... well...

they leave.


when am i allowed to move on to my next thing then?

oh... i wrote an essay once for a law professor that said about how people in NZ should just go over the heads of the corrupt government of nz. maaori partiuclarly. seek justice from international tribunals and courts rahter than the waitangi tribunal that seems designed to perpeptuate deprivation and abuse.

and i suppose the grabbed onto that.

decided she was entitlted to force me to write her a thesis.

and i guess the tamaki people, too. for failing me for my first year essays. trying ot teach me a lesson in how that must be my entire lifes work. can't be one essay in a career. good good carry on. everything must stop and you must explain it mooooooooooooooooooooooooooore slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly while we berate you for not having the most basic of language skills. like... find the thing that she is strongest at and pretend she doens' thave that.

not so much as literacy skills even.

no reading comprehension.

no ability to speak english


intentionally pslychologically torturous.

new zealnd is allowed to psychologically torture me...


because i was born here. so far as i can see. that means they own me an dthey can do whatever they want with me.

they believe.

which is of course they they have no legitimacy or credibilty at all.


i sort of go...

somehwere in teh world are people with the desire to live.

people who have elaborate protective structures built up to protect themselves and the ones they care about.

to protect their way of life.

what way of life ist hat?

a way of life where people are good and kind to each other. where they honor their contracts. where they behave honestly. with integrity. where there is genuine try. people who are intelligent.

these sorts of kinds of things.

and these people need to be careful not to be inflitrated or taken over by psychopaths.

by people who are opportunitistic and selfish. who will stab them in the back.

people like that.

and these people likely have a will to live.

and these people care for others.

and these people invest in health.

and these people want healthcare. a cornerstone of which is informed consent.

and they have ability to pay and invest in good things.

and they don't want to be swindled or taken for a fool. or to squander resources.

they want to see genuine development.

i'm sure there are people like that.

because i have seen glimmers of that. evidnece of that.

so... there we go.


i haven't seen anything like that in new zealadn...


unclear. unclear to me.

glimmers of that yes.

my gp was good. she was.

so far as i could tell... yep.

and the clinic had studnet docs. and they seemed... there was something genuine there. yeah.

and some of the early talks at otago. there were genuien peple there too. before the inflitration. once people realised i was going to these talks and i wans't a f*ck*ng idiot.



Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:34:40

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:21:58

because my life has been planned out for me and i'm only allowed to go:

i'm so glad i'm a gamma baby cleaning my supervisors cats vomit. i can't imagine a better life for me.

and i suppose the idea was that i would just be a humble servant...

and in 4 or 6 or 10 years the other professors and the visitng professors and the university administration would put more and more and more pressure on my supervisor to allow me to be signed off.

and the visitng professors would say tehy had money to keep me. and they would set up something to transition me into. the supervisor would be given an offer for his slave. i mean they would get to say they had a student who got signed off who got a job. that makes it more likely they will get more studnets.

when studnets hear that you never get jobs from doing phd's in philosophy... then.. well that's the strategy they take in new zealand. do a phd in philosophy and spend the rest of your life working on your phd because there never will be a job for you and we will just keep getting government money indefinately for keeping you as a hostage. a slave. never signing you off. theres no job for you. nobody will pay you to do this. you pay us. you pay us. you pay us. you pay us. you pay us. you pay us...

why would anybody enrol in that degree?

well that's right. they go... why would anybody enrol in tha tdegree? it's like they are making an informed consent decisiont be abused. they must have no self esteem. they are willing to set themselves up for a lifetime of debt by enrolling in a degree with us where they are going to pay us indefinately and they will get nothing in return... except for the 'university experience' which is exploitation and abuse.

who wants to enrol int aht programme?

well, then, you deserve whta tyou get.

hey, who wants to sign up for an experiment feeding infants milk formula that's been designed to be too low in potassimum? ahem, i mean, we don't know if it's too low in poatassium because we haven't done a randomised double blind control trial yet. hey, you wanna do that experiment? you wannat be that guy? there's a post-doc in it for you if you wanna be that guy. the new zealnd government will (it turns out) fund that. fund those kinds of studies. and only those kinds of studies...


to keep the people busily working to go to Harvard? where the research doesn't appear to be psychopathic.

a magical distant land where studnets involved in rape over the summer holidays are excluded (rather than included) because of their crimes. where professors lose their laboratories for running laboraties where there is evidnce that falsification of laboratory data takes place where professors are held accountable fo rthe integrity of their studnets findings. wehre there is incentive on professors to behave with integrity.

a magical land like that.


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:41:23

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:34:40

but so then i go...

what reason do i have to belive that it is anything other than a false ideolgoy?

what reason do i have to belive that it isn't harvard that is responsible for undermining new zealadn universities. maybe it is harvard that pays new zealadn universities to harbor pedophiles and give them teaching qualifications. that pays them to offer scholarships to students who are willing to put their name on projects that are fairly obvously psychopathic.

i wonder if new zealadn does act as a magnet to attract psychopaths. with the research output taht is allowed.

maybe it does.

maybe it's marketing from harvard.

why would i think that?

because of glimmers...

and how the story changed when i didn't go running back to australia. begging to be taken back into the fold.

once it started to become apparent that other people wanted me... saw potential in me too...

various of the anatomy people... law... and so on...

turns out everybody wants alext o be their slave.

sh'es that good.

or it would be that fun to crush her spirit.

i suspect it's the later really.

they need / want me to crush tehir dementors for them and the ature of the task is it can only be done for free...

they believe the world to be...


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:43:57

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:41:23

and of course i can't function when these people have all the power over me

i am 40 years old.

and i'm expected to slave until death?

because i'm not compliant.

i was supposed to be complaint.

sucking up. kicking down.

the cat had it coming, right?

i suppose that was the basic idea...


Re: so... i wonder how it works.

Posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:46:19

In reply to Re: so... i wonder how it works., posted by alexandra_k on May 21, 2021, at 15:43:57

i mean he didn't buy food for it. he told me the cats liked to eat chuck steak. not the cheapest of feeds. he showed me some there was in the fridge so i could see the size to cut it up.

but then he didn't leave food. and he didn't leave money for food.

so i buy that myself... otherwise the cat doesn't get fed.

and the cat doesn't get brushed.

and the cat wasn't very well...

and i brushed it and fed it.

he seemed surprised on his return.

the cat started cleaning itself after being brushed.

it had just sort of given up before that.


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