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Re: monday monday » floatingbridge

Posted by sigismund on June 6, 2011, at 12:48:01

In reply to monday monday » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2011, at 12:21:17

Evidently you manage to sleep and to dream.

How do you manage it?

 

Re: Capt. Kirk

Posted by sigismund on June 6, 2011, at 12:52:26

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on June 5, 2011, at 20:56:21

Or not just you. Anyone.

 

Re: monday monday » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2011, at 15:21:11

In reply to Re: monday monday » floatingbridge, posted by sigismund on June 6, 2011, at 12:48:01

> Evidently you manage to sleep and to dream.

Yes. I think sleepygirl might be
infectious. In a good way. Like how courtesy is said to be contagious. This was only one night so far. Stay tuned.

>
> How do you manage it?

This week's program is less emsam :( and 15mg Valium, 5mg at a time across about two hours before bed. Earbuds and the Jackie Gleason Orchestra. I still wake early, but it was much better last night. Let me count (you can't see my fingers). 7 hours. Oh, I forgot. Son had a nightmare. Having a child, well so far there are very rare nights of not being awakened, if not by him then some hyper-vigilance thing that kicked in.

But I went back to sleep.

I suspect the Valium of blurring my vision. This only happened previously on Lyrica. Temporary solution at best.

Are you not recalling any dreams? Even on your seven hour night?

 

Re: monday monday

Posted by sigismund on June 6, 2011, at 16:54:17

In reply to Re: monday monday » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2011, at 15:21:11

A seven hour night is really good.

I get a few good hours. Maybe it's like I sleep 4 a night?

My hours are so eccentric. I'm up by 2am.

I always wonder what it was that disturbed my sleep....tea, chocolate, curcumin, black tea theflavins, maybe agomelatine is worse than useless, what else?

 

Re: monday monday

Posted by sigismund on June 6, 2011, at 16:54:45

In reply to Re: monday monday » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2011, at 15:21:11

Or age

 

Re: monday monday » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2011, at 17:09:03

In reply to Re: monday monday, posted by sigismund on June 6, 2011, at 16:54:45

Age definitely has an affect. I don't know if anyone knows why.

I thought I caught a post of yours that mentioned a seven hour stretch.

Cucurmin? Sigh. Anti-inflammatories are the treatment for fibromyalgia and just about everything these days.

I hope my forays into herbs will not be as mysterious or arduous as meds :(

 

Re: monday monday » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2011, at 17:29:21

In reply to Re: monday monday, posted by sigismund on June 6, 2011, at 16:54:45

Age definitely has an affect. I don't know if anyone knows why.

I thought I caught a post of yours that mentioned a seven hour stretch.

Cucurmin? Sigh. Anti-inflammatories are the treatment for fibromyalgia and just about everything these days.

I hope my forays into herbs will not be as mysterious or arduous as meds :(

 

Re: monday monday » floatingbridge

Posted by sleepygirl2 on June 6, 2011, at 19:33:35

In reply to monday monday » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on June 6, 2011, at 12:21:17

I wonder why goats.

I feel like crap, but I have to just ride it out. At least I hope it'll go!!

I like the rolling stones. 19th nervous breakdown speaks to me in particular. ;-)

I'm sorry you're sad. :-(
(((fb)))

 

Re: Capt. Kirk » floatingbridge

Posted by sleepygirl2 on June 6, 2011, at 19:35:13

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on June 5, 2011, at 20:56:21

Sound like a nice island. I hope you enjoy it :-)

 

Re: Capt. Kirk » sleepygirl2

Posted by floatingbridge on June 7, 2011, at 0:30:38

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk » floatingbridge, posted by sleepygirl2 on June 6, 2011, at 19:35:13

Hey! I'm going to try for another dream tonight. Even though they seem to bring about some sort of unpleasantness the next day.

And sadness is part of the weft of life. Just is. Imo.

You'll ride it out. It is tiring imo, but worthwhile.

A funny sign today in a shop that made me laugh after today's panic attack:

Getting to work on time only makes the day longer.

 

Re: Capt. Kirk

Posted by sigismund on June 7, 2011, at 19:35:26

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk » sleepygirl2, posted by floatingbridge on June 7, 2011, at 0:30:38

I'd post a link but I can't find it. This is from a professor of psychology in Sydney who came from Hungary as a young man. I found the concluding remarks of the article particularly interesting. This is just the end.

When Forgas returns to his native Hungary, he is instantly struck by how negative everyone is. It is a country with a sad history and even the national anthem "is a downbeat dirge of complaint about how we have been suffering and everyone has been beating us up, and God help us have a better tomorrow". Hungarians abroad often refer to their homeland as szegeny kis orzag.....that poor little country.

The people in Hungary are so paralysed by their gloom, Gorgas says, they are unable to do anything to overcome the corruption and bad governance that plague them. They are resigned to their fate. Australians, he says, are much more positive and would be likely to do something to initiate change. 'It seems to me that one of the critical things you need in a democracy is people who believe in themselves as individuals."

But the conversations he has in Hungary are on a much deeper level than those he generally has in Australia. "They tend to be much more intense, more probing, much more personal," he says. "In some ways you feel that the people you are interacting with are much more involved with you." The other place he has encountered this is Israel.

Australians, Forgas adds, are very easy going, and the Australian culture is a great culture in all sorts of ways - but "personal depth may not be one of its features."

 

Re: Capt. Kirk » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 7, 2011, at 22:14:15

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk, posted by sigismund on June 7, 2011, at 19:35:26

Well, sigi, I am 1/4 Hungarian.

Here on Kaua'i, in my brief experience, I see alot of what I call open faces. People are not rushing. Personally, in my head, I call it aloha time.

I'm on the north coast which is reputedly 'slower' than the south. Some people say that there is nothing to do. Of course, I have my little phone to play with, but other than that, it suits me fine.

People stop and talk. Granted, the majority of my interactions are with tourists or relocated mainlanders.

People hitchhike, and it isn't scary. Unless it was my teenage son doing the thumbing.

My working theory is based on density. So many less people. What a relief.

Some of the local islanders I've met seem to share a sense of calm. Of course they may carry more weight of living with them. They are, of course, working, raising children.

I did have an unpleasant toned conversation in a hot tub with a relocated mainlander. She criticized the schools, called this Kaua'i a third world country. In her mouth those words seemed pejorative. I don't know why She was here except as a hedonist exhile. Whatever that means. Obviously she rubbed me the wrong way. She seemed immune to the charm of courtesy that is apparent in the driving habits here, such as signs that suggest how to share a one lane bridge on a two lane road.

Or that the official highway speed posted is 40 miles per hour.

 

Re: Capt. Kirk

Posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 0:07:32

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 7, 2011, at 22:14:15

>called this Kaua'i a third world country

How very first world of her.
I feel so much better in third world countries.
VS Naipaul would say that that is because I am 'slumming', but I think it is because the people are nicer.
They have fewer illusions to begin with.
In Kathmandu I always made a point of asking the people I had spent any time with how they voted.
One of the American college kids was saying wide eyeed to her teacher in the coffee shop at breakfast 'And they have TWO communist parties?'
To which you long to reply 'All the better to eat you with, my dear.'
The Marxist-Leninists (as opposed to the Maoists)were centrist and respectable trade unionists.

So you can use one of those mobile phone thingos?
I used one the other day but didn't know how to turn it off.
Eventually I will have to learn as they reduce public services still further.
But there are so few people I wish to speak to (present company excepted, of course). I could always learn to do without. (Sig has gone into silence.)
I did remember your Hungarian ancestry.
I'm fond of lost causes.

 

Re: Capt. Kirk » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 3:13:47

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 0:07:32

I use my phone for email. I can use this one, but not to it's capacity. I am presently computerless. Hence the many accidental double posts. I'm still not sure how that happens. I've moved past mortification.

There are few public phones where I live.

I don't really enjoy telephone
conversations.

I haven't read VS Naipaul. I would hope some of the 'slumming' could be compensated for by good will and willingness to respect local customs. I can't help the mixed blessing of being born where I was.

You probably know I haven't traveled much at all. I am very naive and provincial. I learned pretty quickly to stop asking the names of trees and birds within the first hour of arrival. No one that I asked knew.

The birds here are different. Frogs everywhere. A gecko found it's way into my hair. I didn't mind. They bark at night to each other.

I thought I'd have trouble sleeping, but now I think I can.

I hope you get some decent sleep sigi. You didn't mean you were going into silence soon, did you?

Sweeter dreams to you, too, sleepygirl.

 

Re: Capt. Kirk

Posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 13:50:19

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 3:13:47

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ujuoo9VbA

Listen to the tone of the guitars. It is that restraint and balance I love.

The wonders of American alternative country music.

 

Re: Capt. Kirk

Posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 13:56:18

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 13:50:19

So the lyrics are................

Look out boys, 'cause I'm a rollin' stone
That's what I was when I first left home
I took every secret that I'd ever known
And headed for the wall
Like a wrecking ball

Started down on the road to sin
Playin' bass under a pseudonym
The days were rough and it's all quite dim
But my mind cuts through it all
Like a wrecking ball

Oh, just a little deadhead
Who is watching, who is watching?
I's just a little deadhead
I won a dollar on a scholarship
Well, I got tired and let my average slip
Then I's a farmer in the pogonip
Where the weed that I recall
Was like a wrecking ball

I met a lovesick daughter of the San Joaquin
She showed me colors I'd never seen
Drank the bottom out of my canteen
Then left me in the fall
Like a wrecking ball

Standin' there, in the morning mist
A Jack and Coke at the end of my wrist
Yes, I remember when first we kissed
Though it was nothing at all
Like a wrecking ball

Hey boys, just a little deadhead
Who's watching, who's watching?
I's just a little deadhead
With too much trouble for me to shake
Oh, the weather and the blindin' ache
Was ridin' high until the '89 quake
Hit the Santa Cruz garden mall
Like a wrecking ball

 

Re: Capt. Kirk

Posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 14:06:09

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 13:56:18

>I met a lovesick daughter of the San Joaquin
She showed me colors I'd never seen
Drank the bottom out of my canteen
Then left me in the fall
Like a wrecking ball

Ah, lovesick daughter, LSD, I see.

 

gillian welch » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 14:15:18

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 13:56:18

Thanks for the lyrics. I regret being in LA during her Santa Cruz time. That's where I live.

They've rebuilt the mall. In fact, those of us who call it the mall now are not understood. I think they've spun it into 'downtown'. My husband and I laugh. We live now about 9 miles north, right at the edge of the referenced pogonip. We
call it going to the city.

Even my seven yo doesn't know what I'm talking about re: the mall.

There is still some excellent music in Santa Cruz. My husband is a musician and keeps me relatively up to date.

Do you enjoy some of Sufjan Stevens?

I'm rather limited posting on my phone :P but will maybe dig up my favorite Gillian for you.

Thanks.

 

Re: gillian welch

Posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 14:19:14

In reply to gillian welch » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 14:15:18

>Do you enjoy some of Sufjan Stevens?

I like this a lot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azGIf74ICmw

But I don't know him well.

 

Re: gillian welch

Posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 14:25:54

In reply to Re: gillian welch, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 14:19:14

And people on youtube seem to be arguing about whether suicides go to heaven to be with Jesus.

I'm off to see the Dalai Lama, but if I have affection for any system, it is for Taoism.
But I like the Dalai Lama.
He said 'My religion is simple. My religion is kindness'.

 

everthing is free now » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 14:29:49

In reply to Re: gillian welch, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 14:19:14

http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=wFle2YoQwWg&feature =youtubegdata_player

If it doesn't play, Google the title. Same source.

 

Hey! » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 14:33:02

In reply to Re: gillian welch, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 14:25:54

Please say hi to him for me. Even if it's at a great distance. It's the thought that counts.

Kindness is my religion, too.

 

casimir pulaski day » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 14:43:23

In reply to Re: gillian welch, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 14:25:54

He's prolific. Gotta pick & choose imo. Try Seven Swans, too. An Album.

He works with Rosie Thompson sometimes. Check out The Basement Tapes.

http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=xxMYqsvgx8c&feature=YouTube_gdata_player

 

Re: casimir pulaski day » floatingbridge

Posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 14:47:08

In reply to casimir pulaski day » sigismund, posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 14:43:23

Link not working. Google title.

Enjoy your visit.

 

gillian » sigismund

Posted by floatingbridge on June 8, 2011, at 19:07:07

In reply to Re: Capt. Kirk, posted by sigismund on June 8, 2011, at 13:50:19

Husband says she's from LA. But as wrecking ball says, she went to school in Santa Cruz--. Used to be a haven for all sorts till $ flooded in and kinda' fragmented the town. Pushed artists out of their garrets because the garrets could be sold for $700,000 usd.

They're still there, though, in pockets, working organic farms, playing for free now because many venues closed or need a guaranteed crowd. Still good music if one looks for it.

The 89 quake leveled the central downtown area. It took years to rebuild. Chain retailers were invited. It's cute and a bit edgy, but glossy. No more Cooper House with it's cool jazz band open air with folks, all kinds, spontaneously dancing, talking. It was a slower, friendlier time. Thank goodness the university still attracts eccentrics.

I can imagine Gillian drunk on the old Santa Cruz. Friends know her. I never had the honor.

She has an authentic 'dust bowl' feel about her, for whatever reason.

There are many Santa Cruzians here on this island. Went to a farmers' market,
and felt so at home in an old, good way.

I do remember those old dreams. Happy
to see it here. They are, imo, worthy dreams. Work an honest job that feeds people, and you feed yourself.


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