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White Trash Christmas

Posted by dessbee on December 20, 2006, at 14:34:59


Trashy Xmas Animation.
Merry Xmas everybody

(load and press play)

http://www.killsometime.com/animations/animation.asp?ID=151

 

Re: White Trash Christmas dessbee

Posted by Phillipa on December 20, 2006, at 17:13:22

In reply to White Trash Christmas, posted by dessbee on December 20, 2006, at 14:34:59

Thanks for the laugh even though I live in the South. Love Phillipa

 

Lou's response to aspects of this thread

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 20, 2006, at 20:01:03

In reply to White Trash Christmas, posted by dessbee on December 20, 2006, at 14:34:59

Friends,
If you would like to see my response to aspects of this thread, you could email me if you like. It is written here that diferent points of view are encouraged. I have a different point of view than what is depicted in the link offered.
I am proud to be part of a country that has a diverse peoples of different heritages and cultures. I spend a lot of time in Appalachia and honor the separateness and independence and endurance of a special culture that originated out of wanting to be self-sufficient and having their own faith. The hills and valleys of the Appalachian Mountains lends itself to self-supportivnesss from the rivers and lakes that at one time teemed with trout. And the hills once were populated with buffalo and deer. Yet today, the mountians are a far cry from what they were 250 years ago.The native Americans are few. The land has been torn by the coal mining companies. The forests have been plundered. The rivers are polluted. But the people are still there today that may be seen as different in their lives to some, but a tribute to man's will to be separate and self-sufficient to me.
Lou
lpilder_1188@fuse.net

 

Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread Lou Pilder

Posted by fayeroe on December 20, 2006, at 20:23:31

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of this thread, posted by Lou Pilder on December 20, 2006, at 20:01:03

Thank you, Lou for a very nice and thoughtful post. pat

 

Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread

Posted by Phillipa on December 20, 2006, at 21:16:28

In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread Lou Pilder, posted by fayeroe on December 20, 2006, at 20:23:31

I love to drive to the Mountains drive there for the day on weekends sometimes. Looks okay to me. Love Phillipa

 

Re: I love hillbillies dessbee

Posted by Amadeus on December 21, 2006, at 6:14:24

In reply to White Trash Christmas, posted by dessbee on December 20, 2006, at 14:34:59

Pretty funny! Merry Xmas

I love the mountains. Nothing wrong with hillbillies, would't mind becoming one, avoid all the stress and get that fresh air :-)

Who's singing? Really good singer.

 

Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread Lou Pilder

Posted by madeline on December 21, 2006, at 6:26:13

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of this thread, posted by Lou Pilder on December 20, 2006, at 20:01:03

Thank you for your post Lou. I am from the mountains of NC and have a true love and respect for that area.

I like the people there as I consider them to be very much me.

You are absolutely right about the self-sufficiency and desire to simply be left alone in regards to the classical mountain person. We are mainly of scotch/irish decent and a deep mistrust of authority and "outsiders" as been passed from the original immigrants to the area.

Our ancestors also gave us our accent that so many people view as a sign of ignorance, but if one listens to the scots and the irish you will hear the mountains.

President Roosevelt did so much to open the area up to the rest of country, and my grandparents had a picture of roosevelt on their wall until they passed away (funny because they consistently voted republican after his terms were over.) But sometimes I wonder if the TVA did more harm than good, because it certainly opened the area to a lot of ridicule and pathos.

The Appalachians have recovered somewhat from the environmental disasters of which you speak.

There is a large river that flows through the town close to where I grew up. As a child the river actually stank and I was afraid of it. Now the river is clean and people kayak, raft (it actually has class 4 rapids) and swim in it.

However the news is not all good, polluted rain is destroying Mt. Mitchell and other mountains of NC.

Thank you again for your post and your quest to understand and not judge.

Maddie

 

Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread Phillipa

Posted by laima on December 21, 2006, at 16:06:31

In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread, posted by Phillipa on December 20, 2006, at 21:16:28


That's no accident or chance- strip mining and clearcutting is often hidden from roads by "buffer zones" of trees to keep things looking nice. It's true in the west as well as in Appalacia.

> I love to drive to the Mountains drive there for the day on weekends sometimes. Looks okay to me. Love Phillipa

 

Lou's response to aspects of laima's post

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 21, 2006, at 16:50:07

In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread Phillipa, posted by laima on December 21, 2006, at 16:06:31

>
> That's no accident or chance- strip mining and clearcutting is often hidden from roads by "buffer zones" of trees to keep things looking nice. It's true in the west as well as in Appalacia.
>
> > I love to drive to the Mountains drive there for the day on weekends sometimes. Looks okay to me. Love Phillipa
>
> Friends, The subject of the environmental devistation done to the Mountains in Appalachia and the effect upon it's peoples may not be well-known to many.
There is going on a process called,{mountiantop removal}. Seeing this from an airplane gives a clear understanding of what happens in this coal minning process. Imagine if you will that all the trees have been removed in this proces and the debris usually allowed to fill the valley below. Imagine the effects upon the people that live near there. The explosions, the debris, the water run off from there being no trees left on the mountiantop causing flooding. And more.
Here are some pictures of this process that may be unbeknownst to some.
Lou
http://www.ohver.org/galleries/mountiantop_removal/007/index.html

 

correction to link for above

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 21, 2006, at 16:53:02

In reply to Lou's response to aspects of laima's post, posted by Lou Pilder on December 21, 2006, at 16:50:07

> >
> > That's no accident or chance- strip mining and clearcutting is often hidden from roads by "buffer zones" of trees to keep things looking nice. It's true in the west as well as in Appalacia.
> >
> > > I love to drive to the Mountains drive there for the day on weekends sometimes. Looks okay to me. Love Phillipa
> >
> > Friends, The subject of the environmental devistation done to the Mountains in Appalachia and the effect upon it's peoples may not be well-known to many.
> There is going on a process called,{mountiantop removal}. Seeing this from an airplane gives a clear understanding of what happens in this coal minning process. Imagine if you will that all the trees have been removed in this proces and the debris usually allowed to fill the valley below. Imagine the effects upon the people that live near there. The explosions, the debris, the water run off from there being no trees left on the mountiantop causing flooding. And more.
> Here are some pictures of this process that may be unbeknownst to some.
> Lou
> http://www.ohvec.org/galleries/mountiantop_removal/007/index.html
>
>

 

correction to link for above/correction

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 21, 2006, at 16:56:52

In reply to correction to link for above, posted by Lou Pilder on December 21, 2006, at 16:53:02

> > >
> > > That's no accident or chance- strip mining and clearcutting is often hidden from roads by "buffer zones" of trees to keep things looking nice. It's true in the west as well as in Appalacia.
> > >
> > > > I love to drive to the Mountains drive there for the day on weekends sometimes. Looks okay to me. Love Phillipa
> > >
> > > Friends, The subject of the environmental devistation done to the Mountains in Appalachia and the effect upon it's peoples may not be well-known to many.
> > There is going on a process called,{mountiantop removal}. Seeing this from an airplane gives a clear understanding of what happens in this coal minning process. Imagine if you will that all the trees have been removed in this proces and the debris usually allowed to fill the valley below. Imagine the effects upon the people that live near there. The explosions, the debris, the water run off from there being no trees left on the mountiantop causing flooding. And more.
> > Here are some pictures of this process that may be unbeknownst to some.
> > Lou
> > http://www.ohvec.org/galleries/mountaintop_removal/007/index.html
> >
> >
>
>

 

Re: correction to link for above/correction Lou Pilder

Posted by laima on December 21, 2006, at 18:57:55

In reply to correction to link for above/correction, posted by Lou Pilder on December 21, 2006, at 16:56:52


Thanks, Lou. It's devastating what some people do to the land, and appalling that some of them then try to then pretend it never happened.


> > > >
> > > > That's no accident or chance- strip mining and clearcutting is often hidden from roads by "buffer zones" of trees to keep things looking nice. It's true in the west as well as in Appalacia.
> > > >
> > > > > I love to drive to the Mountains drive there for the day on weekends sometimes. Looks okay to me. Love Phillipa
> > > >
> > > > Friends, The subject of the environmental devistation done to the Mountains in Appalachia and the effect upon it's peoples may not be well-known to many.
> > > There is going on a process called,{mountiantop removal}. Seeing this from an airplane gives a clear understanding of what happens in this coal minning process. Imagine if you will that all the trees have been removed in this proces and the debris usually allowed to fill the valley below. Imagine the effects upon the people that live near there. The explosions, the debris, the water run off from there being no trees left on the mountiantop causing flooding. And more.
> > > Here are some pictures of this process that may be unbeknownst to some.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.ohvec.org/galleries/mountaintop_removal/007/index.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Re: correction to link for above Lou Pilder

Posted by fayeroe on December 22, 2006, at 18:12:59

In reply to correction to link for above, posted by Lou Pilder on December 21, 2006, at 16:53:02

lou, didn't i get a smiley for my post? :-)

southeastern Oklahoma has been raped, pillaged and ruined by Weyerhauser Lumber company. they are now in partnership with Hancock Insurance Company and our lakes and rivers are full of silt and the hardwoods (for squirrels and deer) are gone and the chemicals they used to kill the foliage caused cattle to abort, women to miscarry and there is an unbelievably high incidence of cancer there now......makes you sick, doesn't it? big business........no toads and butterflies........it is a changed place from my idyllic childhood.

 

Lou's reply to fayeroe fayeroe

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 22, 2006, at 18:36:24

In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread Lou Pilder, posted by fayeroe on December 20, 2006, at 20:23:31

> Thank you, Lou for a very nice and thoughtful post. pat

Fayeroe,
You wrote,[...Thank you, Lou...]
Sorry, but I have been behind on smileys.
Lou
Lou's ninth smiley>[:>)]

 

Lou's reply to madeline madeline

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 22, 2006, at 18:40:01

In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of this thread Lou Pilder, posted by madeline on December 21, 2006, at 6:26:13

> Thank you for your post Lou. I am from the mountains of NC and have a true love and respect for that area.
>
> I like the people there as I consider them to be very much me.
>
> You are absolutely right about the self-sufficiency and desire to simply be left alone in regards to the classical mountain person. We are mainly of scotch/irish decent and a deep mistrust of authority and "outsiders" as been passed from the original immigrants to the area.
>
> Our ancestors also gave us our accent that so many people view as a sign of ignorance, but if one listens to the scots and the irish you will hear the mountains.
>
> President Roosevelt did so much to open the area up to the rest of country, and my grandparents had a picture of roosevelt on their wall until they passed away (funny because they consistently voted republican after his terms were over.) But sometimes I wonder if the TVA did more harm than good, because it certainly opened the area to a lot of ridicule and pathos.
>
> The Appalachians have recovered somewhat from the environmental disasters of which you speak.
>
> There is a large river that flows through the town close to where I grew up. As a child the river actually stank and I was afraid of it. Now the river is clean and people kayak, raft (it actually has class 4 rapids) and swim in it.
>
> However the news is not all good, polluted rain is destroying Mt. Mitchell and other mountains of NC.
>
> Thank you again for your post and your quest to understand and not judge.
>
> Maddie
>
> Madeline,
You wrote,[...Thank you for your post Lou...]
Sorry, I have been behind on smileys
Lou
Lou's tenth smiley>[:>)]

 

Lou's reply to laima

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 22, 2006, at 18:43:10

In reply to Re: correction to link for above/correction Lou Pilder, posted by laima on December 21, 2006, at 18:57:55

>
> Thanks, Lou. It's devastating what some people do to the land, and appalling that some of them then try to then pretend it never happened.
>
>
> > > > >
> > > > > That's no accident or chance- strip mining and clearcutting is often hidden from roads by "buffer zones" of trees to keep things looking nice. It's true in the west as well as in Appalacia.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I love to drive to the Mountains drive there for the day on weekends sometimes. Looks okay to me. Love Phillipa
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends, The subject of the environmental devistation done to the Mountains in Appalachia and the effect upon it's peoples may not be well-known to many.
> > > > There is going on a process called,{mountiantop removal}. Seeing this from an airplane gives a clear understanding of what happens in this coal minning process. Imagine if you will that all the trees have been removed in this proces and the debris usually allowed to fill the valley below. Imagine the effects upon the people that live near there. The explosions, the debris, the water run off from there being no trees left on the mountiantop causing flooding. And more.
> > > > Here are some pictures of this process that may be unbeknownst to some.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.ohvec.org/galleries/mountaintop_removal/007/index.html
> > > >
Laima,
You wrote,[...Thanks,Lou...]
Sorry, but I have been behind on smileys
Lou
Lou's eleventh smiley>[:>)]

> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Re: Lou's reply to fayeroe Lou Pilder

Posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2006, at 19:23:39

In reply to Lou's reply to fayeroe fayeroe, posted by Lou Pilder on December 22, 2006, at 18:36:24

Wow, Lou, you're nearly up to your 10th smiley! I think that's great.

Here's hoping you feel it soon....

--10derheart

 

oops...I'm the one behind!!

Posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2006, at 19:25:55

In reply to Re: Lou's reply to fayeroe Lou Pilder, posted by 10derHeart on December 22, 2006, at 19:23:39

on reading this thread before posting the above.....so it's on to #12, Lou!

 

Lou's reply to fayeroe-achagedplace fayeroe

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2006, at 16:06:20

In reply to Re: correction to link for above Lou Pilder, posted by fayeroe on December 22, 2006, at 18:12:59

> lou, didn't i get a smiley for my post? :-)
>
> southeastern Oklahoma has been raped, pillaged and ruined by Weyerhauser Lumber company. they are now in partnership with Hancock Insurance Company and our lakes and rivers are full of silt and the hardwoods (for squirrels and deer) are gone and the chemicals they used to kill the foliage caused cattle to abort, women to miscarry and there is an unbelievably high incidence of cancer there now......makes you sick, doesn't it? big business........no toads and butterflies........it is a changed place from my idyllic childhood.
Fayeroe,
You wrote,[...been pillaged..ruined..full of silt..gone..chemicals..used to kill..makes you sick..?..a changed place...].
Environmental disasters can happen over a long period of time and create {a changed place}. Not like it was when our forefathers inhabited the wilderness. First it is one strip mine, and one mountainside deforested. Then from that one event, the soil that is bare erodes, then there is flooding, then there is more erosion then there could be animals that depended on the environment to have to leave to seek other places to live crowding those anomals that are already there and so the fire is lit and spreads and is still burnning. Is it not the firsyt ax and the first shovel that strats the chain?
I have been to Oklahoma, right through where you describe. Lou's first un-smiley>[:-(]
Lou

 

Re: Lou's reply to fayeroe-achagedplace Lou Pilder

Posted by fayeroe on December 23, 2006, at 18:46:53

In reply to Lou's reply to fayeroe-achagedplace fayeroe, posted by Lou Pilder on December 23, 2006, at 16:06:20

i chained myself to a tree when it all started.......and i spoke to the legislature. i was 19. it was all for naught. a beautiful area full of happy people is now clear-cut and eroded........sad, sad, sad.......i have a small ranch there and it makes me sick to visit and see the changes.......:-(

 

Re: language that could offend others

Posted by Dr. Bob on December 29, 2006, at 15:19:38

In reply to White Trash Christmas, posted by dessbee on December 20, 2006, at 14:34:59

> Re: Wh*te Trash Christmas

Sorry, "wh*te trash" is considered "usually disparaging" by the dictionary:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/white trash

but wasn't automatically asterisked. It should be in the future.

Bob

 

Re: language that could offend others Dr. Bob

Posted by Dinah on December 29, 2006, at 18:05:03

In reply to Re: language that could offend others, posted by Dr. Bob on December 29, 2006, at 15:19:38

Is it less disparaging with an asterisk? I get the point of asterisking vulgarities, but it eludes me for disparaging.

 

Yes-the point of this escapes me, too?? (nm) Dinah

Posted by 10derHeart on December 30, 2006, at 12:41:00

In reply to Re: language that could offend others Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on December 29, 2006, at 18:05:03

 

*ss terisking, LOL!

Posted by muffled on December 31, 2006, at 8:18:10

In reply to Re: language that could offend others Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on December 29, 2006, at 18:05:03

> Is it less disparaging with an asterisk? I get the point of asterisking vulgarities, but it eludes me for disparaging.

**LOL!!! I don't get asterisking vulgarities either!!!! We ALL know what the word is meant to be!!! LOL!
But then I thot...well...mebbe what the auto-as thing does, is allow for the fact that the word(s) are vulgar. So when wh*te trash is asterisked its like saying that its not a nice thing to say.....oh sh*t, I getting myself into a hole here, me w/my cussing....hmmmmmm.
Better quit while I behind!!!
Clear as mud I'm sure.
Muffled

 

Lou's offer to explaine too Dinah and 10der Dinah

Posted by Lou Pilder on December 31, 2006, at 10:07:25

In reply to Re: language that could offend others Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on December 29, 2006, at 18:05:03

> Is it less disparaging with an asterisk? I get the point of asterisking vulgarities, but it eludes me for disparaging.

Dinah, 10der and friends,
The use of the asterisk could be unbeknownst to many. I will try to offer support and education about this from my perspective.
You may have seen some of my posts refer to the asterisk as {star}. You also may have seen one of my expositions before the new rule about 3 consecutive posts was made here that I attempted to bring forth an understanding concerning profanity in relation to the doctrine of freedom of speech.
The Greek language, as used in some biblical books, uses the word,{star}, (in English), and the Greek word is {aster} or {asteriskos} or sometimes for special uses,{astron or astrape}.[...asteroid, astro, astral, dis{aster}, etc..] So {[aster]isk} has something to do with a star?
But the Hebrew had a star involved in their culture. It is called, >The Star of David<. This star could also be part of the Hebrew word,{Esther}.
The word,{aster} could sometimes refer to the aspect of light travleing, in ancient texts. It could also refer to the amount of time that light is available to see something, usually a very short moment of time. In today's terms, this could be a nano-second.
The {Star of David} is a six-ponted star. This could have significance relevant to the asterisk.
What I am about to explain could hve the potential IMO to be very difficult to understand to some and can not be explained by me in 3 posts. One can email me if they like if I am stopped by the rule here that prohibits me from posting 4 consecutive posts for it could be that the understanding could not be visible until 10 consecutive posts.
Lou


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