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Posted by Racer on April 8, 2006, at 19:51:13
Last week, my husband picked up a tiny baggie -- one inch across, about -- in the elevator, with a couple of pills in it. We called the police, who said they'd send someone out to get it. Today we called again, and they finally came.
And you know what? I feel OLD! Here I am, saying, "Yeah, we don't want folks like that around here..." "There are kids in this building who could have gotten a hold of it." Et cetera. Just like a middle aged woman would.
OH! I am a middle aged woman. Never mind...
But to make this of any interest to anyone else, the cop told us that tablet style pills like this with something stamped on them tend to be Ecstacy (MDMA), and anything in a tiny plastic baggy with something stamped or printed on it tends to be drugs. Of course that's assuming what's in the bag is actually anything like what it's advertised to be. A lot of that stuff contains no MDMA, or whatever.
So, listen to yer old Auntie Racer, and don't take any street drug unless you've seen the college chemistry transcripts of the guy who cooked it...
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 9, 2006, at 5:20:23
In reply to Just had the police at the door..., posted by Racer on April 8, 2006, at 19:51:13
Crumbs...
As an slight aside.. Clubs in Amsterdam used to have a little guy with a chemistry set of some sort that would test ecstasy pills and tell you roughly what dodgies they contained and how much MDMA they contained!
Nikki
Posted by Joan797 on April 9, 2006, at 7:12:24
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » Racer, posted by NikkiT2 on April 9, 2006, at 5:20:23
What's a dodgie??????
and what's a MDMA, for Christ's Sake??????
Guess I'm old as well.
Older than Racer, or just less wise.
Posted by NikkiT2 on April 9, 2006, at 8:55:47
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » NikkiT2, posted by Joan797 on April 9, 2006, at 7:12:24
I meant "dodgy ingredients" by dodgies.. not quite sure what happened to my brain there!
And MDMA is what, theoretically atleast, ecstasy is.. (MDMA = 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) But, often then contain many other "dodgy ingredients", and often not MDMA at all.
The other ingredients can make the pills very dangerous, and so, in certain clubs in Amsterdam (well, in the mid 90's anyway), there would be someone who would test your ecstasy pills for you, to let you know what they contained.
Hope that makes some more sense
Nikki
Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 12:08:01
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » NikkiT2, posted by Joan797 on April 9, 2006, at 7:12:24
Feel good drugs and isn't one of them the date rape drug? Love Phillipa
Posted by Racer on April 9, 2006, at 12:53:59
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » Racer, posted by NikkiT2 on April 9, 2006, at 5:20:23
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> As an slight aside.. Clubs in Amsterdam used to have a little guy with a chemistry set of some sort that would test ecstasy pills and tell you roughly what dodgies they contained and how much MDMA they contained!
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> NikkiTHey had similar things around here, folks who'd use that sort of ELISA test to check what you had. I never saw that, after my time in the clubs, but I read about it.
I look back, and am amazed I havea brain at all... I took a lot of stupid things in the day...
xoxo
Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 21:20:41
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » NikkiT2, posted by Racer on April 9, 2006, at 12:53:59
Elisa test and the Western blot are used to test for lymes's Disease the Western blot is the only reliable one. Love Phillipa
Posted by Racer on April 9, 2006, at 21:55:55
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » Racer, posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 21:20:41
> Elisa test and the Western blot are used to test for lymes's Disease the Western blot is the only reliable one. Love Phillipa
What did my post have to do with Lyme's Disease?
Posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 22:06:16
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » NikkiT2, posted by Racer on April 9, 2006, at 12:53:59
Nothing that was my point the Elisa test is used to diagnose lynes along with the Western Blot. Just thought you could have been confused about the name of the test. Since I have never taken illegal meds I have no clue how they test for them. I only know the unrine and blood tests for alchohol and illegal substances when you are drug tested for a job. Love Phillipa
Posted by Racer on April 10, 2006, at 1:21:45
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » Racer, posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 22:06:16
> Nothing that was my point the Elisa test is used to diagnose lynes along with the Western Blot. Just thought you could have been confused about the name of the test. Since I have never taken illegal meds I have no clue how they test for them. I only know the unrine and blood tests for alchohol and illegal substances when you are drug tested for a job. Love Phillipa
ELISA is a kind of test. There are ELISA tests for many different things, from blood type to HIV to Lyme's to certain illegal drugs. It's not a specific test for any one thing, but a method of testing.
Posted by Joan797 on April 10, 2006, at 8:10:23
In reply to I think I made a word up! » Joan797, posted by NikkiT2 on April 9, 2006, at 8:55:47
Posted by Joan797 on April 10, 2006, at 8:12:13
In reply to Re: Just had the police at the door... » Joan797, posted by Phillipa on April 9, 2006, at 12:08:01
That's the only other word I've ever heard for date rape drug. I got that word from the ya-ya sisterhood movie, that of course I watched so many times I broke the tape but can still quote many many lines from.
Posted by Poet on April 10, 2006, at 13:44:04
In reply to Just had the police at the door..., posted by Racer on April 8, 2006, at 19:51:13
Hi Racer,
When he was a teenager my husband got yelled at by his mother for keeping LSD in the freezer. It wasn't his- it was his older brother's, who now has a PhD in pharmacology. ROFL.
Poet
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on April 10, 2006, at 14:52:01
In reply to Re: I don't know what dodgy means either (nm) » NikkiT2, posted by Joan797 on April 10, 2006, at 8:10:23
We definately need an English - American dictionary.
Well dodgy is a really common word here in the UK.
From wikipedia dictionary:
"Derived from the verb dodge. First used in mid-19th century England.
Adjective
dodgy (UK)
evasive and shifty
Asked why, a spokesman gave a dodgy answer about legal ramifications.unsound and unreliable
Never listen to dodgy advice.The dodgy old machine kept breaking down.
dishonest
The more money the better, because there is always that dodgy politician or corrupt official to bribe.I am sure you wouldn't want to be seen buying dodgy gear, would you? (stolen goods).
risky
This is a slightly dodgy plan, because there is a lot that is being changed for this fix.deviant
He's a dodgy Peeping Tom.weird
The situation was right dodgy.I'm feeling dodgy today, probably got the flu."
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 19:43:59
In reply to Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay » Phillipa, posted by Racer on April 10, 2006, at 1:21:45
According to google it is used to pick up any infectious disease including HIV from illegal drug use by dirty needles and blood leading to hepatitis C. It doesn't pick up an actual drug you may have used. Just the result of and it is a very inaccurated test. Love Phillipa Oh and very often lymes needs much further testing as it is positive for syphylis which of course I had to be further testing for hence the Western Blot and a bunch of other ones Igg etc.
Posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 20:05:48
In reply to Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay » Phillipa, posted by Racer on April 10, 2006, at 1:21:45
> ELISA is a kind of test. There are ELISA tests for many different things, from blood type to HIV to Lyme's to certain illegal drugs. It's not a specific test for any one thing, but a method of testing.
I've done an ELISA before, in my cell bio lab.
I dropped that class though, so I don't remember the details.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 20:09:43
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay, posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 20:05:48
I remember antibodies are involved. Antibodies that are absorbed onto this plastic plate with wells.
I'm such a bad student...
Deneb
Posted by Racer on April 10, 2006, at 20:52:28
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay, posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 20:09:43
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> I'm such a bad student...
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> DenebIt's not about being a bad student, Deneb. It's about not remembering something that really isn't applicable to you. Selective inattention or selective retention.
And frankly, I only remember the very basics of it.
And because I can't resist the urge to offer advice: check out the way you describe yourself. In the past 24 hours or so, you've told me you don't have my brains and that you are a bad student. There's nothing wrong with your brain, and you could be a great student if you chose to be, but as long as you continue to spin yourself so negatively, you're gonna be wasting energy. How about this, just as an experiment: for one week, speak of yourself as you would speak of someone else, for whom you felt respect and affection. Even if you don't quite believe it, even if it feels as though you're bragging, speak of yourself as if you liked you. Even when you're talking to yourself. Just -- give it a try. Maybe you'll find you feel better.
And please take all this in the spirit in which it is offered, you know?
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 21:21:52
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay, posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 20:05:48
Deneb could you maybe look up the actural definition of the Elisa test? Google there are just too many sites and they all refer to infection. Aids, lymes, hepatitis C. I know it's not acurate for a diagnosis for lymes but what will it tell about other diseases and druges you may have used. Is it specific or does only tell you've either been exposed or have used a specific drug. I know the Western Blot is for Lymes and says whether you have ever had it and it will always be positive if you've had the disease. the others are beyond my knowledge. Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 22:00:05
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay » Deneb, posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 21:21:52
The Western Blot is a technique. It's the transfer of the results of an RNA electrophoresis onto a membrane. It's like a Northern Blot, but with RNA. It can be used to check for specific RNAs.
There is also something called a Northern Blot which I'm more familiar with, that involves DNA. You chop up DNA with restriction endonucleases and electrophoresis them. Then you use a Northern Blot to transfer the pattern of DNA migration onto a membrane. You visualize the bands of DNA using DNA probes with markers.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 22:06:09
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay, posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 22:00:05
Sorry, I wasn't really explaining things too well in my last post. I should have explained things like electrophoresis, but I didn't.
In electrophoresis, you make this gel, with little wells at the top. Then you fill each well with a different mixture of either chopped up RNAs or DNAs. Then you run an electric current through the gel and the bands of DNA or RNA migrate through the gel. Bands are separated out according to the length of the segments of RNA or DNA.
Deneb*
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 22:06:50
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay, posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 22:00:05
Deneb you are truly brillient!!!!!!! Tell me more. I think you should be a scientist and find a cure for some aweful disease. You can do it I know you can. Love Phillipa
Posted by gardenergirl on April 10, 2006, at 22:17:30
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay, posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 22:00:05
See, you are so not brainless. :)
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on April 10, 2006, at 22:18:50
In reply to Just had the police at the door..., posted by Racer on April 8, 2006, at 19:51:13
Good for you for calling the authorities. Whatever it was, it's not something I'd want in the hands of children.
gg
Posted by Phillipa on April 10, 2006, at 22:46:18
In reply to Re: Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay, posted by Deneb on April 10, 2006, at 22:06:09
Deneb so that's what the bands mean. Supposedly the number of bands tells how bad the lymes is. You can E-mail me more of this info if gg wants to get back to the original topic. Love jan
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